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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #60 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 10:48:31 PM Eastern »
Gotta blow this up in the offseason.. Coaching staff 1st, goaltending 2nd.. They're just not good at all..


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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #61 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 10:52:33 PM Eastern »
Gotta blow this up in the offseason.. Coaching staff 1st, goaltending 2nd.. They're just not good at all..


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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #62 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 10:54:40 PM Eastern »
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #63 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 10:54:40 PM Eastern »
Carlson out there for another -   :rofl:  Wow.. Team can't play hockey at all when it mattered. At least Ovi got his 50. We knew that was all they were playin for anyway.  Not sure how they do it, but this team as constructed is too old and slow and fucking overpaid..

Guess that'll do it for another shit season folks! I'll see ya'll around from time to time, till next year! Be safe and healthy!!  :hearts:

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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #64 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 10:55:44 PM Eastern »
Death, taxes and Capitals OT losses.....three things you can depend on.  Really, though, this was the worst game of the series, IMO, even more than Game 2 where we carried play for a good part of the game early on.  They just looked ripe for the plucking tonight.  At least Oshie showed up even if nobody else did.  As mentioned, this thing has to be dismantled and rebuilt.  There aren't going to be any playoff wins in DC for a loooooong time from this point forward.  The team is at or past the rebuild stage.  Now, it's just a question if management realizes it's over for this group.

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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #65 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 10:57:08 PM Eastern »
TBH, we picked up two more games than expected this series.    :raspberry:

It took Trotz 3 seasons to get it done and The Toilet has only had two, but I just don't have the same faith in him.

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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #66 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:01:51 PM Eastern »
TBH, we picked up two more games than expected this series.    :raspberry:

It took Trotz 3 seasons to get it done and The Toilet has only had two, but I just don't have the same faith in him.

Ho hum.


That was a much different team.  They had Burakovsky and Vrana up front.  Orpik and Niskannen on defense.  Holtby playing great.  They're gone and the rest of the guys are 4 years older.  Scotty Bowman couldn't take this roster very far.  Time to make big changes.

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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #67 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:02:14 PM Eastern »
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #68 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:03:12 PM Eastern »
Of course it would be Carlson to be a step late in covering on the game winning goal. I'm actually surprised they hung in there as long as they did.


For those of you wanting them to blow it up in the off-season, you can forget about that. Caps ownership/management will simply never allow trades of their guys. Backstrom and Carlson will be with us to the end of their contracts as will Oshie. 


I would love to trade Mantha who I was just disgusted with late in the year and in the post-season.  Actually, I would be ok with a trade of anybody, but no chance of that.

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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #69 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:11:54 PM Eastern »

That was a much different team.  They had Burakovsky and Vrana up front.  Orpik and Niskannen on defense.  Holtby playing great.  They're gone and the rest of the guys are 4 years older.  Scotty Bowman couldn't take this roster very far.  Time to make big changes.

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For sure our D was much better then.  Our D has been our achilles heel all year.

i was never really sold on Burt.  Too erratic.  Too tempramental.  Much like Sammy.
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #70 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:18:10 PM Eastern »
McMichael had a grand total of 3:20 of ice time. Should’ve dressed Johnsson-Fjallby instead.
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #71 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:19:54 PM Eastern »
Of course it would be Carlson to be a step late in covering on the game winning goal. I'm actually surprised they hung in there as long as they did.


For those of you wanting them to blow it up in the off-season, you can forget about that. Caps ownership/management will simply never allow trades of their guys. Backstrom and Carlson will be with us to the end of their contracts as will Oshie. 


I would love to trade Mantha who I was just disgusted with late in the year and in the post-season.  Actually, I would be ok with a trade of anybody, but no chance of that.

I don't really understand some people's problem with Oshie.  He's one of the most hardworking players we have.  He shows up EVERY shift.  He's smart, he goes to the net, he hits, he scores.  I just don't get it.    :huh:
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #72 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:24:23 PM Eastern »
McMichael had a grand total of 3:20 of ice time. Should’ve dressed Johnsson-Fjallby instead.

Yeah.... What is going on with that???

I really, really don't get The Toilet's decision making sometimes.  It's like he's never coached before.
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #73 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:30:25 PM Eastern »
Yeah.... What is going on with that???

I really, really don't get The Toilet's decision making sometimes.  It's like he's never coached before.


I mentioned before that I didn’t think McMichael was ready for playoff style hockey. While I think he’s got good potential, I think that potential is at center, not wing.
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #74 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:35:43 PM Eastern »
Okay i think that's me done.
We can debate, ( I hope), my choices for "Kiss, marry, kill "   :wackysmile: on the flip side.,


(My Keepers would be Ovi (obviously... DUH  ), Willy, Halfway and yes, Oshie.   :raspberry: )
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #75 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:49:13 PM Eastern »

I mentioned before that I didn’t think McMichael was ready for playoff style hockey. While I think he’s got good potential, I think that potential is at center, not wing.


How is this good for anybody?   Poor kid now has a comlex.  our tem was playing short.
la Toilette is done here.  he coached us to lose.
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #76 on: Friday May 13, 2022, 11:52:51 PM Eastern »
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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #77 on: Saturday May 14, 2022, 11:22:47 AM Eastern »
I don't really understand some people's problem with Oshie.  He's one of the most hardworking players we have.  He shows up EVERY shift.  He's smart, he goes to the net, he hits, he scores.  I just don't get it.    :huh:


Don't get me wrong, I love Oshie.  He is one of the few guys that I think we have that has the burning desire to win and will do whatever it takes. He is aging though and can't beat father time.  He has never been the best skater, but makes up for it most of the time in other ways. This last year, he was out injured a lot and honestly didn't have the greatest games for the most part when he did play. His contract is big enough to be a problem if he is not able to perform at a high level.

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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #78 on: Saturday May 14, 2022, 01:24:40 PM Eastern »

Well that sucked.  I think it was about what we expected going in though, no?  I kind of figured we go down in 4-1 or 4-2.
I was stoked when we went up 2-1 but new it wouldn't last.  Then I was shocked when we actually tied it. I didn't expect to win in OT, but you just never know with OT.  Honestly we didn't really look very good in OT and it was inevitable....I was just hoping for a miracle....hoping for an Ovie sighting, but alas...

Fucking Samsonov....You could see the entire team and stadium deflate when he let in that softy WAY TOO soon after we went up.  You just can't do that and expect to win.  He played better for the most part than I expected in the series overall, but you can't let in a softy per game.


Mostly, the fucking old guys did pull their weight:
Ovi:  1G, 5A
Backy:  2G, 4A
Oshie:  6G, 1A
Kuzy:  2G, 3A
Eller: 1G, 2A
Carlson:  1G, 4A  (and a minus 5)
Mantha:  0G, 4A
I would have liked to see more goals out of Ovi, and certainly Mantha.


We just could not quite compete with FLA.  Missing Tom hurt in many ways, hitting, energy, scoring, PK, PP, and just help drives this team.
Backy is smart and skilled and he provided some points (more than I expected), but there's no hiding he has lost beyond a step in his game.  Oshie; yeah he has some aging health issues, but he fucking plays.  He's not very fast and not as durable as he used to but you can't complain about his compete level or his effectiveness in this series.  Same for Ovi...he doesn't work as hard as Oshie, but also hasn't slowed down all that much.




Blow up the team?  Never happen....well not in the Ovi era.  You can hope for it and want it, but I don't see it happening.  This team committed itself to Ovie and Backie and the club and we are stuck with it.  I can't see them being able to move ANY of the big contract pieces out anyway.  Who would take Backy at $10m?  We have nothing left to give away to sweeten the pot.


I expect there will be few changes in the offseason.  I can wish and dream, but....I think we are stuck with this.  The biggest question is what to do about GT.  Both guys are RFA's and DO YOU want to rely on either as a starter next year?  Sammy does have some great talent, but also brain farts more than any GT I've ever seen.  His rebound control is out of control and he loses his net now and then (way too often)  Vitek is a bit steadier, but he aint great.


Not sure why everyone hates Lavy - other than he's the coach and they always take the heat.  He has a mediocre team whose best parts are aged past their prime.  He has no goal tending to work with whatsoever.  Florida is a far better team at this point.  IF we had Bobrovsky and they Sammy, we would have won the series.  Florida won all the puck battles and all the foot races and the Goal tending matchups.  You can put SOME of that on the coach, but most of that is on the the players.  Like someone else said....Scotty Bowman could not get THIS team to the Cup.
For what it's worth....Everyone hated Trotz after his multiple playoff failures and even up thru about 90% of the season we won the Cup.  Everyone was calling for his head....and then after he's gone....he's all that?


As for McMichael....he is exactly the type of player we didn't need more of in the playoffs...NOT a hitter, NOT a great back checker, NOT a great anything.  Lots of potential, but not enough at this point to make a positive impact.  Hell, I'll take Sheary or Hathy double shifting over McMichael in the playoffs anytime (at this point).  Hopefully that changes (soon) moving forward


Florida outplayed us for most of the series.  They deserved to win it.  We had times when we were the better team, but not enough of them.  We had our chances to steal it (ahem game 4) but we let them slip.


Bummer.  (and the lifelong Cap fan was heard to say.....shortly after losing in the 1st round..."Well, there's always next year"  :O=



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Re: R1G6 Caps vs Panthers @ 7:30pm
« Reply #79 on: Saturday May 14, 2022, 07:57:29 PM Eastern »

Don't get me wrong, I love Oshie.  He is one of the few guys that I think we have that has the burning desire to win and will do whatever it takes. He is aging though and can't beat father time.  He has never been the best skater, but makes up for it most of the time in other ways. This last year, he was out injured a lot and honestly didn't have the greatest games for the most part when he did play. His contract is big enough to be a problem if he is not able to perform at a high level.

You make some pretty decent points.
The injuries are definitely a concern, especially as everybody seems to target his head since his concussion.  How he's stayed so pretty is remarkable.    :snicker:
Experience trumps youth, EVERY time in my book and like you say, where he might have lost a step or two, he makes up for in other ways.  He still has a lot of value.

He is a fighter.  I would keep him. I think he's worth it.
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