How is getting beagle a fantasy?
You simply prove over and over that your hockey knowledge is slim to none but you do know lots about poutine so there's a start.
Why wouldn't a team that's not going to make the playoffs refuse to trade a guy that is older and on an expiring contract?
What would you say the cost would be? I figure a 4th rd pick would be enough for them to eat his salary. He's a 4th liner on an expiring contract. Usually they go for 6-7th pick at the deadline. Caps wont be able to do much more without sending contracts out. It's an add without subtracting.
Its ok for you to chirp me but I can't chirp you? Typical toddler attitude and I continue to expect nothing less from you.
And yes, thanks for admitting that I know more about hockey and poutine than you. You're making progress.
Beagle's contract is not expiring this year, but rather next year. It's $3m per for the next two years. The fantasy is that Vancouver would pay that salary this year and NEXT just to unload him. Yes it happens on occasion and Vancouver is struggling somewhat, but unless they simply have bogus cap space to throw away....why would they pay the bulk of a salary to send Beags packing? I don't think it is likely.
Or are you suggesting the Caps continue to throw away draft picks for short term rentals.....on a 4th line guy who will have VERY LITTLE real impact? Take Beags for a pick and VC caries his salary for rest of this year and then you dump him in offseason? Cause we as shit can't afford Beags at $3m next year. THAT is NOT what this team needs...and aging 35 year old 4th liner for $3m. And if you put him on waivers at the end of the season....don't you have to pay a cap penalty for next year? (That I am not sure about, but I believe putting a player with active contract on waivers results in some cap space penalty for subsequent years of the contract)
How have I proven my hockey knowledge is slim to none? Just because I disagree with YOU on this topic does not mean I have no hockey knowledge. It just means I disagree with you. Why do you have to attack anyone that disagrees with you? You do it often here, and it's not just me. Simply state your case and disagree. (I do realize in THIS case you and I already started down the chirping road road so okay - but that doesn't excuse it for every other time you do it)
I try and use reality in considering and composing my posts. SO here's a novel idea you can try sometime....try and use some real facts in your discussion. Like this: Vancouver has $2.48 in cap space. (I looked it up) I doubt (my opinion) they'd want to use $3m in throw away for this year (partial) AND all of NEXT to give Beags to the Caps for a 6th round pick...which is why I posted it was fantasy.
The Capitals have ZERO cap space. Actually they are in the hole on cap space. They are currently underwater on cap space and that EXCLUDES the $4m in cap space for Kempny and Lundqvist if either returns this year (which I doubt). This is all real data (facts) you can research and see for yourself. Explain with your proven hockey IQ how giving up a future asset (trade pick) reduces their salary cap enough to add $3m for Beags next year? Unless you are unloading another piece...but you said trade 6th rounder for Beags...that does not reduce your cap space next year....unless your fantasy of VC paying two years of salary to unload Beags is true.. That's simply too high a price for the current Caps situation....to add another 4th line guy who will have little impact.
Beags is not worth $3m to THIS TEAM at this time. That's a fact. I don't believe he is worth $3m at this point to the Caps if they could afford it - that's my opinion. Caps have Dowd basically filling that role at literally 1/4 the salary of Beagle. No, Dowd is not as good as Beagle at many things (my opinion). But guess what? The Caps can afford Dowd at $750k a year (fact). That's actually a pretty good bargain (my opinion). The Caps cannot afford Beagle at $3m or even at $1.5m (fact).
Same goes with Karl Alzner. I loved him and he was a very valuable asset to the Caps for many years. That's my opinion. The sad fact was when he signed a deal to go elsewhere...he was not worth the salary it would have taken to keep him TO THIS TEAM AT THAT TIME. Consequently, his play declined more so than I think anyone expected, but that is somewhat irrelevant. The fact of the matter is as much as we/whoever liked Alzner and would have liked to reward him with a big contract....he was not worth it to the Caps at that time.
Managing the cap Space is a vital part of all of this. You can't just ignore it (especially the Caps who are so far up against it).
Wanting a guy like Beags, Needing a guy like Beags, doesn't mean you necessarily get him for what you can afford. Getting a team to give you a guy and also pay his salary is great, but I don't believe it's reality with Beags. If VC is blowing up the team and shaving salary and building for the future....Would not a guy like Beags who is a wealth of knowledge and experience and more so a valued work ethic, yet not that big a cap hit and only under contract for the next 2 years be a better piece to keep? And if you are dumping salary then dump big salary.
I would much rather you suggest something like.."hey IF we could trade piece X or Y, we could do this..."
rather than just attacking anyone who disagrees with you. I realize I got on your nerves early on about the poutine thing without meaning to and I did apologize for it (and I was a dick back to you in this thread)
but fore Heaven's sake let it go. Stop being a dick to everyone that disagrees with something you say.