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Caps acquire Hagelin
« on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 12:44:04 PM Eastern »
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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #1 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 12:45:02 PM Eastern »
Meh.... Does nothing to address current issues.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #2 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 12:55:04 PM Eastern »
Clearly adds speed, PK skills and playoff experience.  But if this is the only deal we do, and we don't do any other deals because of this one, than I would have rather passed.  Defense still needs addressing.   Maybe GMBM is going to try to address the defense with a Bura trade.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #3 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 01:02:25 PM Eastern »
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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #4 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 01:38:04 PM Eastern »
 8-0 :raised-eyebrow: :huh: :O= :O= :O= :O= :O= :O= :O= :O=

I can only think of a handful of players who's character would be detrimental to the Capitals team, Hagelin is near the top of the list. I have never liked the guy.  I hope he can get along with the team.
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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #5 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 01:41:16 PM Eastern »
I don't mind this given what we gave up.  The PK definitely needs help.  He's better than any of our 4th line guys now and plays with some grit.
BUT overall... this doesn't address the defensive woes.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #6 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 01:51:26 PM Eastern »
8-0 :raised-eyebrow: :huh: :O= :O= :O= :O= :O= :O= :O= :O=

I can only think of a handful of players who's character would be detrimental to the Capitals team, Hagelin is near the top of the list. I have never liked the guy.  I hope he can get along with the team.
What is it that you have seen that makes you think he has such a detrimental attitude?

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #7 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 01:55:46 PM Eastern »
Completely useless and stupid move.  We need help on DEFENSE, not to add another forward and a midget at that.  Just dumb as a box of rocks.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #8 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 02:26:18 PM Eastern »

I like it.  Speed helps and he has been good in the playoffs.  Didn't give up a ton and let DSP go - so I think it is a significant upgrade.  Yes, DSP scored a few key goals for us last year, but he came in way out of shape this year and has been slow with hands of stone all year.


Since we didn't give up much, I don't think this takes the place of a move to bolster the defense.




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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #9 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 02:39:12 PM Eastern »
Clearly adds speed, PK skills and playoff experience.  But if this is the only deal we do, and we don't do any other deals because of this one, than I would have rather passed.  Defense still needs addressing.   Maybe GMBM is going to try to address the defense with a Bura trade.


I agree, if it would be the only one deal I will regret it however with our GMBM it’s better than nothing.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #10 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 03:59:19 PM Eastern »
Alan May's excited, so..  :wackysmile:  Wouldn't hold my breath on a defenseman. They'd have to move Burt for decent cap space and Burt's showing that once a year push that gets management all hot and bothered.. They won't trade him on a high note.  :yawn:

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #11 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 04:08:22 PM Eastern »
DSP cleared waivers, whatever that's going to mean. This is a good improvement for the cost, as long as he fits in well. That's why I hate rentals. It will be interesting to see where he goes in the line up. At least Hagelin didn't come directly from the Hens, so maybe some of that stink has washed off.


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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #12 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 05:15:25 PM Eastern »
What is it that you have seen that makes you think he has such a detrimental attitude?

Hagelin always struck me as an a-hole.  Partly due to his brash attitude on the ice, but he also strikes me as not a very nice guy just watching him in interviews and a few small moments watching him interact with others who were not opponents. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel he may not be a good match for the character of the Capitals.  He also brings the stink of Rags and Hens with him. That's a pretty big stink.
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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #13 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 06:14:26 PM Eastern »
He's arrogant and cocky?  Maybe we need someone like this, balance.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #14 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 06:34:50 PM Eastern »
This does not address our biggest need on defense, but it comes at a pretty low cost. Only draft picks and salary was retained. That's a low cost for potentially decent (not high) upside. Had we given up more I would be feeling very different about things.

If this is our only move I'd be very disappointed, but this is not a bad start to trade deadline season.

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #15 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 06:58:58 PM Eastern »
Reserving judgement at this time.   :-|
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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #16 on: Thursday February 21, 2019, 11:09:01 PM Eastern »

I'm not a big GMBM fan but I think the Hagelin move is all upside for him.  Unlike Shattypants, Hagelin could make a huge difference and there is no downside.  He didn't give up much and he isn't replacing anybody that matters much.  He will definitely be good on the PK and I bet his speed really helps.


The only thing I am a little concerned about, as noted before, is he might be a jerk in the lockerroom - he has bounced around a lot!




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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #17 on: Friday February 22, 2019, 07:37:14 AM Eastern »
I'm not a big GMBM fan but I think the Hagelin move is all upside for him.  Unlike Shattypants, Hagelin could make a huge difference and there is no downside.  He didn't give up much and he isn't replacing anybody that matters much.  He will definitely be good on the PK and I bet his speed really helps.


The only thing I am a little concerned about, as noted before, is he might be a jerk in the lockerroom - he has bounced around a lot!


I don't know much about Hagelin, but interested to know why he has a reputation as a locker room jerk?

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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #18 on: Friday February 22, 2019, 04:09:40 PM Eastern »

I don't know much about Hagelin, but interested to know why he has a reputation as a locker room jerk?


I don't think there is any hard evidence of that. But this will be his 5th team at 30 years old, usually that means he doesn't fit in well in the lockerroom
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Re: Caps acquire Hagelin
« Reply #19 on: Friday February 22, 2019, 05:27:24 PM Eastern »
the lines at practice today in buffalo


Ovechkin-Kuznetsov-Wilson
Vrana-Backstrom-Oshie
Burakovsky-Eller-Connolly
Hagelin-Dowd-Stephenson

Kempny-Carlson
Orlov-Niskanen
Orpik-Djoos




The Caps next opportunity for a full practice is Monday, with the Sat Sun back to back games we may not see Jensen until Tuesday's game
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