| :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström | :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson |
| :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana | :spacer50pix: 20-Eller | :spacer50pix: 10-Connolly |
| :spacer50pix: 65-Burakovsky | :spacer50pix: 72-Boyd | :spacer50pix: 25-Smith-Pelly |
| :spacer50pix: 23-Jaskin | :spacer50pix: 26-Dowd | :spacer50pix: 18-Stephenson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 6-Kempny | :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov | :spacer50pix: 2-Niskanen |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 29-Djoos | :spacer50pix: 34-Siegenthaler |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 1-Copley (starter) |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov (upper body injury, day-to-day) |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 77-Oshie (upper body injury, day-to-day) |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 22-Bowey |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 44-Orpik (Knee Surgery, 3-5 weeks before return) |
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| :spacer50pix: 20-Eller | :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström | :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
| :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana | :spacer50pix: 10-Connolly | :spacer50pix: 65-Burakovsky |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 2-Niskanen | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov |
Same zebra's as yesterday?NO, I was rushing to get the GDT up. They've been updated.
I was hoping to see Seigenthaler in for Djoos.
Since no morning skate I couldn't find a lineup for today's game, but they did just announce that change and I've updated the OP.Uh oh. O'Rourke. :sick:
Since no morning skate I couldn't find a lineup for today's game, but they did just announce that change and I've updated the OP.Except it looks like Bowey is the scratch. I dont like that. He has out played Djoos.
I've not watched much of the Rangers, but if the Flyers game was any indicator I wasn't that impressed.. Lundqvist kept them in the game. (as long as he could anyway)
Our PP's are just like 2 minutes to rest now.. :poop:
So they put Seigenthaler in, but take out Bowey? :huh: I guess Reirden sees something in Djoos we're missing? :-\
Except it looks like Bowey is the scratch. I dont like that. He has out played Djoos.
May have something to do with the Father's trip these next two games. I believe one of the three does not have a father or mentor there, so the other two will split the games.
Eller should NOT be on PP1. He’s a giveaway machine.
Dad’s trip. Everyone gets to play.
I'd like to see Jake The Snake on the PP..
Very well could be the case.
What a terrible pp..
This 2 day games in a row has to suck for them. Not surprised they don’t look ready.The Rangers played yesterday too.
The Rangers played yesterday too.
Are we making excuses?
Yea, but they lost so they have more fire.
Are we making excuses?
They want Wilson to not hit at all. Crap call.They called it because the puck was gone but no one else would gave gotten a penalty there.
They called it because the puck was gone but no one else would gave gotten a penalty there.
No. Just a fact. They played the first 15 in a sleepwalk yesterday as well. I put that on the coaches and the vets.
Holtby is miles ahead of Copley. He looked awful on those 2.Agreed. Copley needs to work on his fundamentals.
the little blue pills are kicking in
Conno misses a lot of layups.
the little blue pills are kicking inNo, it's the vets. They must have heard our grumbling.
Great8 scores!It was a sweet pass. Ovi just held his stick there.
Lol. Link went down and now we're up by 2. :huh: I'll take it. :wackysmile:
Has anyone else noticed the Hens are at the BOTTOM of the Metro? Not a sight we expect to see.
Awful goal.
Cindy is just coming back from injury - I wouldn't start cheering just yet.
Crosby is back already. He got 3 points in his first game back. Unless he is out again.
Cindy is just coming back from injury - I wouldn't start cheering just yet.
Seeeeeeeeeeeeee ..... I love it when I'm made to sound like I know what I'm talking about. Thanks Conno !!!
Good game by Carlson. Easily our best player. Orlov and Niskanen not so good.
Ya he has been pretty bad defensively all season.
Orlov, in the defensive end, looks like he's struggling to do even basic shit..
Ya he has been pretty bad defensively all season.
Maybe Copley has only had 2 bad games but he has had some other mediocre games. He wasnt spectacular today. He got caught out of position a few times today. He has been fine but I wouldnt want to rely on him if Holtby was out longterm.
Among the defensemen, I'd say Orlov has been the most disappointing.
Among the forwards, I'd say Eller.
Copley has appeared in 9 games a little over 1/4 of the way into the season, partially because of Holtby's injury. He's now 5 - 2 - 1. He's had 2 bad games out of 9: the Oct. 11 debacle in NJ where the entire team fell apart, and the recent game against Montreal, where he was pulled and Holtby bailed us out. Other than that he's been decent to very good. I'd say he's met/exceeded expectations for what we'd get out of the backup goalie, and he has been good enough thus far that he has helped rather than hurt our chances to make the playoffs in what looks like it might be a VERY tight playoff race.
The rest of the NHL could end up being VERY VERY sorry that the league office landed on Tom Wilson and essentially told him that he must focus more on technical hockey and lose the physicality. IF (a BIG if) he were to keep playing like this, it would not be laughable to make a case for him as league MVP at the end of the season.
Conno is just becoming a veteran, being only 26. And yes, he's a little too streaky and misses some lay-ups. But like Vrana (though not as fast or talented) I think if you put Conno on a line that will 1) stay together more than 23 minutes, 2) has at least one GOOD set-up guy and 3) is generally a talented line (ie. doesn't have a blackhole like Burakovsky .. most nights ... on the other wing so other teams can load up on him and Lars) I think you would see him become more successful all the way around b/c we have all seen that the guy has the potential to have a real, high-end shot.
Maybe Copley has only had 2 bad games but he has had some other mediocre games. He wasnt spectacular today. He got caught out of position a few times today. He has been fine but I wouldnt want to rely on him if Holtby was out longterm.
Eller is overrated. I dont understand the love for him. He has 2 or 3 good games and everyone falls in love with him. They give him a pass for the 10 or 12 bad games. All you have to do us look through his game logs. Its not pretty. He takes dumb penalties and makes poor decisions in the defensive zone. And while his strength is his possession, at times he hangs on to the puck too long as just ends up turning it over. And what really rubs me the wrong way us that smug look on his face. Every time I see a close up of him I want to beat this guy to a pulp.
And Wilson. What can we say. He is playing some excellent hockey. He ius doing everything for this team.
Among the defensemen, I'd say Orlov has been the most disappointing.
Among the forwards, I'd say Eller.
Copley has appeared in 9 games a little over 1/4 of the way into the season, partially because of Holtby's injury. He's now 5 - 2 - 1. He's had 2 bad games out of 9: the Oct. 11 debacle in NJ where the entire team fell apart, and the recent game against Montreal, where he was pulled and Holtby bailed us out. Other than that he's been decent to very good. I'd say he's met/exceeded expectations for what we'd get out of the backup goalie, and he has been good enough thus far that he has helped rather than hurt our chances to make the playoffs in what looks like it might be a VERY tight playoff race.
The rest of the NHL could end up being VERY VERY sorry that the league office landed on Tom Wilson and essentially told him that he must focus more on technical hockey and lose the physicality. IF (a BIG if) he were to keep playing like this, it would not be laughable to make a case for him as league MVP at the end of the season.
But, Maaco, Eller stepped up big time last postseason. He was a huge reason we won the Cup. And DC will tell you that's all that matters. I sort of understand what you are saying about the look on Eller's face, but it is his natural look. That is his face -- he can't do anything about it.No I wouldn’t.
One thing that ought to be pointed out: Sometimes it isn't just who you play, but at what point of the season you play them. Detroit and the Rangers may not look great on paper, but prior to their game against the Caps Detroit had won 9 of their previous 11. And the Rangers had won their last 7 games at home. These are teams that are playing well and gaining confidence, and the Caps won both of them. In that way, these games that are building the Caps' winning streak are more impressive than they may appear on the surface.
You're right about Copley: He hasn't been a world-beater, but then, a backup goalie isn't supposed to be. His expectation is not to dominate, but to keep you in the games he plays as best he can. Our REAL issue is that Holtby hasn't been, either. But I give Holtby somewhat of a pass. He needs to save his playoff mojo for the playoffs. You simply can't maintain a playoff level of goalie intensity through a 6 month season as well -- you just can't. Combine that with the dramatic increase in scoring in the league this year and Holtby looks much more pedestrian.
Hey Maaco!
Let me get the truly sincere props out first,
Truly one of Carlson’s best games this year!
Thanks,
Rush
But, Maaco, Eller stepped up big time last postseason. He was a huge reason we won the Cup. And DC will tell you that's all that matters. I sort of understand what you are saying about the look on Eller's face, but it is his natural look. That is his face -- he can't do anything about it.Last season is over. As far as Eller goes Ive never been a fan but I lost all respect for him when he over celebrated the 7th goal of a 7-0 game. He embarrassed himself. And embarrassed himself again by letting a midget beat the crap out of him.
One thing that ought to be pointed out: Sometimes it isn't just who you play, but at what point of the season you play them. Detroit and the Rangers may not look great on paper, but prior to their game against the Caps Detroit had won 9 of their previous 11. And the Rangers had won their last 7 games at home. These are teams that are playing well and gaining confidence, and the Caps won both of them. In that way, these games that are building the Caps' winning streak are more impressive than they may appear on the surface.
You're right about Copley: He hasn't been a world-beater, but then, a backup goalie isn't supposed to be. His expectation is not to dominate, but to keep you in the games he plays as best he can. Our REAL issue is that Holtby hasn't been, either. But I give Holtby somewhat of a pass. He needs to save his playoff mojo for the playoffs. You simply can't maintain a playoff level of goalie intensity through a 6 month season as well -- you just can't. Combine that with the dramatic increase in scoring in the league this year and Holtby looks much more pedestrian.
Tell you what. If you dont believe what I say about Eller then go through his game logs. There have been a lot more bad games than good games. He is an offensive player that doesnt produce consistently and his defensive game hasn't been very.
Hey Maaco!
Let me get the truly sincere props out first, before I crap all over your last Eller comments!!
Truly one of Carlson’s best games this year! His assists were invaluable, and suggested a level of peripheral observation, I don’t see from him very often! He also played a much better defensive game, as I witnessed him checking his guy in the crease, allowing better vision for Copley, and getting slightly physical on the boards! I was pleasantly surprised!!
Secondly, Carly’s post game interview was unique, compared to what I see from him normally! And I’ve watched him closely for years in postgame! He was astute, and addressed game play details more SPECIFICALLY than usual! Within this was a genuine humility that he has probably always had, but I just never noticed it before because his comments were usually so dry and mundane! He was actually informative, and likeable! I’d like to see more of it! So absolute credit, happily given, when credit is surely due to him!!
Now...on to your Eller comments! WARNING, buddy, this won’t be “shorthand”!!
I’ve no problem with your negative view of Lars Eller, at all!! It’s what you pepper in along with it, sometimes that is difficult to read, as a fellow poster here!
You may or may not care as to why you sometimes catch flack from a few of us here, from time to time, NOT the disagreement with your opinion type of comments, but when some others here, INCLUDING myself, have mentioned the condescending tone of some of your posts! In other words, YOU’RE WELL AWARE OF IT!
I take issue with your sentences that start with, “He has 2 or 3 good games and EVERYONE falls in love with him”! You go on to say that “they”, then “give him a pass” for 10 or 12 games!!
DO YOU SEE IT, GUY!! This idea that those of us here, in the Eller camp, (who just might have good hockey knowledge, also), IN YOUR VIEW, we must only possess the brain capacity to retain 2 or 3 games in our memories, THEN we become clueless, dipshits, for the next dozen games, and are thusly, too stupid to realize that Eller really sucks!!
Oh yeah, and thankfully, we have YOU, to point out our lack of longer-term perspective, which, of course, leaves us dependent on YOUR super-circumspect knowledge and recall of an entire season!!
AND...your mention of Ellers smug look, who knows, maybe so! For a guy who is a Carlson fan, the absolute poster boy for smug looks, shit-eating grins, and “angel-dust burnout”, type responses, I find it a bit ironic!
It’s all good, dude, to hate on Eller all you want. That’s no problem!
Try to stop sounding sometimes, like a condescending A-hole, with some of us here, who share a board with differing opinions, and may happen to also possess a decent hockey knowledge, like you!
It’s not like you haven’t been asked this before!
Thanks,
Rush
Oh damn, Rush "LOVES" Carlson!! :wackysmile: :uh-huh: :rofl:
Tell you what. If you dont believe what I say about Eller then go through his game logs. There have been a lot more bad games than good games. He is an offensive player that doesnt produce consistently and his defensive game hasn't been very.
I have already posted here that he has been on the ice for more goals against than any other Caps forward. Eller is a 3rd line center which is usually a checking center but we have to use Backstrom in that role probably hurting his offensive production 5 on 5.
Eller only strength is his puck possession and most of the time he hangs on to the puck too long and ends up turning it over. Have you seen our pp since he has been on the first unit? He has been a turnover machine. He does not fit very well on that unit.
Like I said in another post Ive never been a fan but I tolerated him. But I have lost all respect for him because of the incident in the Bruins game.
Its funny that Carlson has been the whipping boy of a lot of people here. And you are OK with that. You are one of them. And I have no problem with Carlson being criticized when deserves it. The only difference in criticizing Eller is that he is earning the criticism.
Last season is over. As far as Eller goes Ive never been a fan but I lost all respect for him when he over celebrated the 7th goal of a 7-0 game. He embarrassed himself. And embarrassed himself again by letting a midget beat the crap out of him.Dont you know that its not Ellers, Djoos, Buras, Koozys or ANYONES fault except Holtby?
LMFAO, Mick!!🤣🤣😂😂
I hereby stand, “called out”!!🤣😆🤣
Rush
Dont you know that its not Ellers, Djoos, Buras, Koozys or ANYONES fault except Holtby?
Well, Maaco, I believe I’ll use 2 posts. to respond to yours here. First, will be my initial take, when I first read your response above. The 2nd will deal with the substance of your comments!
So, I gotta tell ya, this was the image/vision, in my head, after reading your response, at first blush:
Imagine a 10 foot folding ladder, set up at the beginning of a landing runway, at any major airport!
Now, picture yourself standing at the top of the ladder, facing the planes that are coming in to land!
Now, there is a HUGE 747, with NO PASSENGERS, coming straight at you, to land, as you remain atop the ladder!
Approximately 20 feet above your head, it rushes overtop of you, with an incredible, and long sustaining WHOOOOOSSSHHH!!!
Now imagine that my post, that you quoted, is typed on a little, 3x5 card, and is the sole piece of cargo on that plane, as it GOES OVER YOUR HEAD!!!
Talk about not getting it, Maaco!! My GOD!🤣😂😂🤣🤣
(That’s about it. Honestly, I’m baffled on where to start with a coherent response)!
Rush
I thought I said it more eloquently, but that too was likely a
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and therefore the need for you to spell it out.
:huh: