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Game 15: 17-7-4-3 (PTS-W-L-OT)
Friday November 9, 2018 Columbus Blue Jackets @ Washington Capitals
Place: Capital One Arena
Time: 7:00 p.m. ET
TV: NBCSWA, NHLN-US, SN1, FS-O
Radio: 106.7 The Fan, Capitals Radio 24/7
NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2018020237) for Live Box Score
Last Game: Wed November 7, Capitals Won 3-2 against Penguins
Next Game: Sun November 11, 5:00pm ET Coyotes @ Capitals
8-Ovechkin 92-Kuznetsov 23-Jaskin
18-Stephenson 19-Bäckström 77-Oshie
13-Vrana 20-Eller 10-Connolly
65-Burakovsky 72-Boyd 25-Smith-Pelly
6-Kempny 2-Niskanen
9-Orlov 29-Djoos
34-Siegenthaler 22-Bowey
70-Holtby (starter)
1-Copley
-- SCRATCH --
26-Dowd
74-Carlson [lower-body injury]
-- INJURED RESERVE --
44-Orpik [lower-body injury] (will miss at least 5 more games)
-- SUSPENDED --
43-Wilson (5 games left??)
-- 1st Powerplay Unit --
77-Oshie 19-Bäckström 92-Kuznetsov
8-Ovechkin 2-Niskanen
-- 2nd Powerplay Unit --
13-Vrana 10-Connolly 20-Eller
29-Djoos 9-Orlov
Referees: Tom Chmielewski (#18), Brad Meier (#34)
Linesmen: Mark Shewchyk (#92), Libor Suchanek (#60)
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1st Period
17:16 Jackets PP GOAL Bjorkstrand, assists Folgino & Wennberg 1-0 CBJ
2nd Period
07:53 PP GOAL 2-Niskanen, assists 19-Bäckström & 92-Kuznetsov 1-1 TIE
3rd Period
05:09 Jackets PP GOAL Duclair, assists Panarin & Werenski 2-1 CBJ
FINAL: 2-1 CBJ
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By Isabelle Khurshudyan November 9 at 11:52 AM
Capitals defenseman John Carlson out with lower-body injury; Brooks Orpik to injured reserve
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Capitals defenseman John Carlson will miss his first game of the season Friday night. (Nick Wass/Associated Press)
The Washington Capitals will be down two regular defensemen for at least Friday night’s game against the visiting Columbus Blue Jackets. John Carlson will miss his first game of the season with an undisclosed lower-body injury, and Brooks Orpik, who has missed the past four games with a lower-body injury, will be sidelined for at least six more after being placed on long-term injured reserve retroactive to Oct. 28.
The Capitals recalled defensemen Jonas Siegenthaler and Aaron Ness from the American Hockey League, and Siegenthaler, the organization’s 2015 second-round pick, will make his NHL debut against the Blue Jackets. He was among the last cuts at training camp, and he’ll play on the third pairing with Madison Bowey on Friday.
“I’ve dreamed about this all my life, and I’ve never felt this happy in my life,” Siegenthaler said. “It’s something really special for me. I worked hard to get here, and yeah, it’s so special I can’t really describe it.”
Carlson’s injury is a blow, considering he has averaged a team-high 26 minutes while playing on the top power-play unit and also the penalty kill. Through 14 games, he has five goals with 13 assists. That he was injured came as a surprise after he played 28:17 in Washington’s 2-1 win over Pittsburgh on Wednesday, assisting on T.J. Oshie’s game-winning goal late in the third period. Coach Todd Reirden was vague about what happened, but he said he was hopeful that Carlson would play in the Capitals' next game, Sunday against the visiting Arizona Coyotes. Defenseman Matt Niskanen will take Carlson’s place at the point for the top power-play unit.
The Capitals initially said Orpik wasn’t expected to miss much time and was day-to-day, but he hasn’t skated in nearly two weeks. With the Capitals facing salary cap constraints, moving him to long-term injured reserve allowed them to afford to recall Siegenthaler and Ness. Orpik won’t be eligible to come off injured reserve until Nov. 21 vs. Chicago.
Washington will be using three defensemen with fewer than 100 games of NHL experience Friday night, concerning for a team that is allowing 3.5 goals per game, sixth-most in the league.
“It’s a great opportunity tonight for some young players against a very hard-working, hard-forechecking team,” Reirden said. “It’ll be a good test, and for me, it’s about giving these guys opportunities and [seeing] what they do with them.”
Read more on the Capitals:
Playing with Alex Ovechkin and Evgeny Kuznetsov should be easy, right? It’s not. Here’s why. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/11/08/playing-with-alex-ovechkin-evgeny-kuznetsov-should-be-easy-right-its-not-heres-why/?utm_term=.f2d0f33b32b2)
T.J. Oshie returns from hits, scores winner in Caps’ 2-1 victory (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/tj-oshie-returns-from-big-hits-scores-winner-in-caps-2-1-victory/2018/11/07/bb917886-e2c3-11e8-8f5f-a55347f48762_story.html?utm_term=.ca64783121a5)
With a new coach and more confidence, Capitals’ Brett Connolly is off to a hot start (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/11/04/with-new-coach-more-confidence-capitals-brett-connolly-is-off-hot-start/?utm_term=.1f2f89d0d363)
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The winner of this game will be the sole holder of first place in the Metro.
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I'd love to know what is wrong with Orpik
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I'd love to know what is wrong with Orpik
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As is common, it's a mystery. I wonder about a muscle tear that turned out to be more severe than hoped. My thinking is anything else would have shown up earlier and they would have moved on the IR transfer sooner.
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I'd love to know what is wrong with Orpik
Hope it's not his nuts.. But he's at that age. :-\ Can't think of another lower body, other than a knee or something (which would of been noticed as soon as it happened) that'll keep you out that long? Who knows..
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I'm surprised about the Carlson injury. He looked fine in the Pans game. Even assisted on the gwg late in the game. Who knows. Injury reports are so vague.
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Well maybe the NHL is secretly giving the CAPS something and supporting us to be the new NHL golden child by utilizing the new "NHL Model" of No physical play and lots of ice dancing and toe drags with....
- a 160lb defensemen who not only won't hit anyone, but can't push anyone out of the way, but he can ice dance
- a 3c with enough toughness that he buys girl scout cookies every time he walks out of the grocery store, because the girls at the table selling the cookies intimidate him
- only tough guy on the team who is a threat to actually hit someone is suspended for 20 games
- only D on the team with any grit and occasionally hits opponent into next week - mysteriously moved to IR
- Allow Ovechkin to play and hit a FEW people because he is the face of the franchise and sells tickets
- Allow Oshie to play a somewhat physical game, because he is the US olympic golden boy of shoot outs and a fan favorite
- Tolerates Smith Pelly hitting and playing physical because, lets face it, the NHL marketing needs some....colour ???
I look at the line up and I see...SOFT. I would not worry about playing against this lineup. I'm not saying they couldn't beat you, but I don't think there will be a lot of ice bags or ice baths needed in the Columbus locker room after the game.
Geez I miss my big hard Willy.
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Well maybe the NHL is secretly giving the CAPS something and supporting us to be the new NHL golden child by utilizing the new "NHL Model" of No physical play and lots of ice dancing and toe drags with....
- a 160lb defensemen who not only won't hit anyone, but can't push anyone out of the way, but he can ice dance
- a 3c with enough toughness that he buys girl scout cookies every time he walks out of the grocery store, because the girls at the table selling the cookies intimidate him
- only tough guy on the team who is a threat to actually hit someone is suspended for 20 games
- only D on the team with any grit and occasionally hits opponent into next week - mysteriously moved to IR
- Allow Ovechkin to play and hit a FEW people because he is the face of the franchise and sells tickets
- Allow Oshie to play a somewhat physical game, because he is the US olympic golden boy of shoot outs and a fan favorite
- Tolerates Smith Pelly hitting and playing physical because, lets face it, the NHL marketing needs some....colour ???
I look at the line up and I see...SOFT. I would not worry about playing against this lineup. I'm not saying they couldn't beat you, but I don't think there will be a lot of ice bags or ice baths needed in the Columbus locker room after the game.
Geez I miss my big hard Willy.
I pretty much agree with everything you said except the big hard Willy thing
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I'm going to miss this game due to a Pats game. I'll check in later.
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I'm going to miss this game due to a Pats game. I'll check in later.
Is this because 74 is not in the lineup?
:'(
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Have fun and good luck to the Pats.
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Couple decent shifts finally.. Can't play the whole game in our zone.
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Should of declined that one.. :wackysmile:
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Lazy effort on that PP. I wish Ovie would play a little stronger on defense.
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Don't look too bad so far. Bowey standing out on D. Haven't noticed Siegenthaler?
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Oh, it's ticky tack night at the booth? :wackysmile:
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well that sucked
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That was a pretty nice pass to beat us.
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well that sucked
Yup.
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Oh, it's ticky tack night at the booth? :wackysmile:
Is there another type of night?
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We looking sloppy and Bob looking sharp.. Unfortunately for us. :-(
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what ever they did to fix the air con in this place worked. I’m freezing my ass off in 213 tonight
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Not bad so far,hope to see goals in 2 period from our side
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the spotlights on the ice just bleached out the camera on this this phone....
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starting to look like the guys are taking advantage of only one ref on the ice
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Nisky with the ppg
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Niskanen score!
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Now Im know the Facebook Ad program is catching up
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i really hope everyone is wasted for the gdt to be this dead
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i really hope everyone is wasted for the gdt to be this dead
It's been so dead in here lately that I often don't check for updates. :-X
BTW, how come you're often not here for GDT's?
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It's been so dead in here lately that I often don't check for updates. :-X
BTW, how come you're often not here for GDT's?
my lousy calendar keeping skills . . .
no shit, i’ve totally forgot games at times.
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cheesus man, who broke the boards?
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What’s the hell going on here?
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great fix Arj!
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What’s the hell going on here?
well. . . that’s a long story Pavs
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that’s a make up call, about 2:00 too late
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that’s a make up call, about 2:00 too late
gotta sell OT!
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Dubinsky 11-2 on faceoffs
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Well that sucked!
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great fix Arj!
cheesus man, who broke the boards?
What are you guys talking about! Was the board down?
The board wasn’t down but all the posts had “Backy PPG” all over them
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Anyone interested, I've been watching this live feed of the California fires for hours. Amazing footage. Very sad.
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1st Period
17:16 Jackets PP GOAL Bjorkstrand, assists Folgino & Wennberg 1-0 CBJ
2nd Period
07:53 PP GOAL 2-Niskanen, assists 19-Bäckström & 92-Kuznetsov 1-1 TIE
3rd Period
05:09 Jackets PP GOAL Duclair, assists Panarin & Werenski 2-1 CBJ
FINAL: 2-1 CBJ
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Good to see they took that 2 game winning streak and ran with it! :poop:
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What are you guys talking about! Was the board down?
The board wasn’t down but all the posts had “Backy PPG” all over them
The board wasn’t down but all the posts had “Backy PPG” all over them briefly
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Is this because 74 is not in the lineup?
:'(
8)
Have fun and good luck to the Pats.
Naw I have season tickets for the Pats. They have had a tough start to the season but have played better recently. Their pk has killed them. Tonight they only gave up one pp goal on 9 attempts. A lot of penalties in this game. BTW the Pats won 5-1. They have a couple if decent players. Jake Leschyshyn was drafted in the 2nd round by Vegas. I kind of like a 20 year old defenceman we have. His name is Aaron Hyman. He seems to be a late bloomer. Mediocre junior player until this season. I like him because he is 6'5 and 225 lbs. And he is actually a point per game player.
Even junior hockey is getting soft. At one time there was a lot of hitting and a lot of fights. Not so much now. Still more physical than the NHL though.
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Not much in the GDT tonight. From what Ive heard Holtby was our best player again. And heard Orlov and Kempny were a bit out to lunch. The player I'm most curious about is Bowey. I think he has played fairly well recently. I know he got extra minutes tonight. Can anyone tell me how he looked.
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Not much in the GDT tonight. From what Ive heard Holtby was our best player again. And heard Orlov and Kempny were a bit out to lunch. The player I'm most curious about is Bowey. I think he has played fairly well recently. I know he got extra minutes tonight. Can anyone tell me how he looked.
Rierden mentioned postgame, that Bowey’s been making a good case for himself to remain a starter. I’ve noticed a solid steady improvement with him the last couple weeks. I wasn’t as high on him last year. I saw in him very good potential, that was just a shade under ready, for an NHL shot.
I now think the wait has paid off, as his growth, confidence, and maturity, are improving nearly game by game. He is the top bright spot talk, right now, in the organization, IMO!
Obviously a low scoring game. BOB was damn near impenetrable tonite for the Jackets. Holtz played very good too. We had some great SOG chances that just didn’t hit the twine!
Rush
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Bowey in the beginning of last year was so bad I thought he head zero potential. By the end of the year I thought he was playing pretty well and he could possibly stay in the NHL. This year I think he has been really solid and I’m hoping he continues to progress.
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I agree that Bowey has been a bright spot. He was a bit slower at making the transition to the NHL than I thought. But it looks like he is getting there. I think he may have passed Djoos on the depth chart. With all of the prospect dmen we have Djoos might find himself out of the NHL.
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Bowey in the beginning of last year was so bad I thought he head zero potential. By the end of the year I thought he was playing pretty well and he could possibly stay in the NHL. This year I think he has been really solid and I’m hoping he continues to progress.
Hey Beags.
I’m trying to remember where I was sat with Bowey, just before the playoffs last year. I just can’t recall. I probably put put him up on the shelf, somewhere early in the beginning of last year, when the team was in a more chaotic shape.
He’s definitely on the good radar screen now! Hope to see more of him!!
Hope you’re doin well!!
Rush
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I agree that Bowey has been a bright spot. He was a bit slower at making the transition to the NHL than I thought. But it looks like he is getting there. I think he may have passed Djoos on the depth chart. With all of the prospect dmen we have Djoos might find himself out of the NHL.
I totally agree with you about Bowey’s slower progression! That was the word I was looking for
in my earlier post, “transition”. (Im getting old, bro, thanks)
Not quite on the same page with you about Djoos. Djoos plays smart, and sometimes his size definitely hurts him.
He is actually borderline too physically small, for any NHL defensemen, as far as general standards go, IMHO, BUT, I haven’t seen much of what some here have said about him being soft and trying to avoid getting hit, (although, I’d forgive a bit of self preservation, for him).
What I have observed is good hockey IQ, and though he may not knock a guy on his ass at the boards,
he will use his body and TRY, resulting, many times in a decent disruption to the opponents timing and offensive sequence, when in our zone. Similar to Eller, who doesn’t take away a ton of pucks at board battles, but is a CONTINUAL thorn in the side to opponents trying to take the puck up the other way. Often creating opportunities for another linemate to regain puck possession. To me, for the NHL skaters possessing less stellar natural talents, that’s what keeps you employed with TOI.
Anyway, another subject. So hey Maaco, do you still doubt my meeting with Carly?
It’s was a simple good thing.
Rush
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I agree that Bowey has been a bright spot. He was a bit slower at making the transition to the NHL than I thought. But it looks like he is getting there. I think he may have passed Djoos on the depth chart. With all of the prospect dmen we have Djoos might find himself out of the NHL.
Some years ago Karl Alzner was the same -- he needed transition time, and a couple of false starts, before he got his feet firmly planted in the NHL.
It is shortsighted to make judgments on players based on their first one or two, especially up-and-down, exposures to the league. Some players, especially the very very top draft picks in good draft years, walk into the league and take it by storm right away. More struggle at first and need acclamation time.
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I totally agree with you about Bowey’s slower progression! That was the word I was looking for
in my earlier post, “transition”. (Im getting old, bro, thanks)
Not quite on the same page with you about Djoos. Djoos plays smart, and sometimes his size definitely hurts him.
He is actually borderline too physically small, for any NHL defensemen, as far as general standards go, IMHO, BUT, I haven’t seen much of what some here have said about him being soft and trying to avoid getting hit, (although, I’d forgive a bit of self preservation, for him).
What I have observed is good hockey IQ, and though he may not knock a guy on his ass at the boards,
he will use his body and TRY, resulting, many times in a decent disruption to the opponents timing and offensive sequence, when in our zone. Similar to Eller, who doesn’t take away a ton of pucks at board battles, but is a CONTINUAL thorn in the side to opponents trying to take the puck up the other way. Often creating opportunities for another linemate to regain puck possession. To me, for the NHL skaters possessing less stellar natural talents, that’s what keeps you employed with TOI.
Anyway, another subject. So hey Maaco, do you still doubt my meeting with Carly?
It’s was a simple good thing.
Rush
Sorry but I'm on the side that a 160kb dman doesn't belong in the NHL. I have been wtching the NHL since 71 and I have never seen a dman as weak physically as Djoos. I dont care if he is smart with the puck. He is not good without the puck.
About meeting Carlson. I dont know. I never put much thought into it.
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Siegenthaler looked good in his debut, I expect to see more of him with Orpik and Carlson out
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Good to see they took that 2 game winning streak and ran with it! :poop:
😂🤣
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Sorry but I'm on the side that a 160kb dman doesn't belong in the NHL. I have been wtching the NHL since 71 and I have never seen a dman as weak physically as Djoos. I dont care if he is smart with the puck. He is not good without the puck.
About meeting Carlson. I dont know. I never put much thought into it.
I’m mostly with you on the 160 lb guideline. It’s a very understandable safe bet, as a rule. Nobody would fault that judgement.
I don’t, however, think he’s weak, relatively speaking, pound for pound. I see more of a “real trooper” attitude in him. He has had some effective hits, I mean, he doesn’t just bounce off an opponent all the time. I also think his puck bring up, and handling has improved. We see less mistakes, as of late, from him, but I understand your angle.
I still don’t get your response to my meeting Carly, and trying to pass on to you a friendly message?
FYI, last year I was lucky enough to get LIL a video with Alan May saying hello to her!
I’m wondering if you’ve possibly misread something, in this case? I’ll let this lie, as it’s such a small thing, but it is curiously odd, as well.
Rush
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What are you guys talking about! Was the board down?
The board wasn’t down but all the posts had “Backy PPG” all over them
Yep, “Backy PPG” was all over it
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10 years, I bet the average NHL player weight will be around 170 - 175 lbs. The smaller, faster (and more skilled) the better.. It also won't be long (imo) before they start cracking down on interference when you see guys dump the puck and then get pinched against the wall trying to chase the puck into the zone.. They'll outlaw that here soon.. It'll be a total stick/check type game, where any body/body contact will be called interference or holding, etc.. Kids over 6' tall will be encouraged to play goalie only. They'll introduce "unnecessary roughness" as the new normal 2 min penalty, if you check with your body instead of your stick. Your team get wronged? You want to fight?? Well, ok.. But it'll be a 5 minute major and automatic game misconduct! See you soon!! :poop:
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10 years, I bet the average NHL player weight will be around 170 - 175 lbs. The smaller, faster (and more skilled) the better.. It also won't be long (imo) before they start cracking down on interference when you see guys dump the puck and then get pinched against the wall trying to chase the puck into the zone.. They'll outlaw that here soon.. It'll be a total stick/check type game, where any body/body contact will be called interference or holding, etc.. Kids over 6' tall will be encouraged to play goalie only. They'll introduce "unnecessary roughness" as the new normal 2 min penalty, if you check with your body instead of your stick. Your team get wronged? You want to fight?? Well, ok.. But it'll be a 5 minute major and automatic game misconduct! See you soon!! :poop:
With the size of players now. Its more about weight than height. Djoos is 6 feet but only 160lbs. Petterson in Vancouver is 6'2 and 176 lbs. There are also the shorter players players in the league now. It really does look like that is the direction the NHL wants to go.
Maybe I am a traditionalist but this isnt the way the game was meant to be played. The game is being Americanized. I use that term because it seems to be the new American fans that want the hitting and fighting out of the game.
I would much prefer to watch a junior game than an NHL game. At least there is a bit of physical play. The NHL seems to be getting worse every year. The game even seems a lot softer this year compared to last season. Maybe that's because we havent seen Wilson yet.