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Title: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 02:39:00 PM Eastern
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  Round 3: Eastern Conference Finals- Game 5
  Series Tied 2-2
  Saturday May 19   Washington Capitals @ Tampa Bay Lightning
  Place:  Amalie Arena
  Time: 7:15 p.m.
  TV: NBC, CBC, TVAS
  Radio: 106.7 The Fan, Capitals Radio 24/7
  NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2017030315) for Live Box Score
  Last Game: May 17 Capitals Lost to Lightning 4-2 in regulation at home.


        8-Ovechkin          92-Kuznetsov            43-Wilson
      18-Stephenson       19-Bäckström           77-Oshie
      13-Vrana                20-Eller                     10-Connolly
      25-Smith-Pelly       83-Beagle                 39-Chiasson

                   9-Orlov                         2-Niskanen
                   6-Kempny                   74-Carlson
                  44-Orpik                       29-Djoos

                                70-Holtby  (starter)
                                31-Grubauer

                            -- SCRATCH --
                                65-Burakovsky
                                79-Walker
                                72-Boyd
                                63-Gersich
                                64-Pinho
                                28-Jerabek
                                22-Bowey
                                  1-Copley
                             

                     -- 1st Powerplay Unit --
    77-Oshie            19-Bäckström           92-Kuznetsov
                  8-Ovechkin            74-Carlson
               
                     -- 2nd Powerplay Unit --
   13-Vrana          10-Connolly               20-Eller
                   2-Niskanen              9-Orlov


  Referees:   Wes McCauley (#4),    Marc Joannette (#25)
Linesmen:   Matt MacPherson  (#83),    Jonny Murray (#95)
    Standby Referee:   Chris Rooney  (#5)
Standby Linesman:   Michel Cormier  (#76)

  Game Note from NHL: NHL Bettman predicts refs will hand two goals to Bolts.



       Tampa Bay's Projected  Lineup

                      Forwards
           (Names in Italics are changes since last game)
Ondrej Palat - Steven Stamkos - Nikita Kucherov
Yanni Gourde - Brayden Point - Tyler Johnson
Alex Killorn - Anthony Cirelli - J.T. Miller
Chris Kunitz - Cedric Paquette - Ryan Callahan

                    Defensemen
        Victor Hedman — Dan Girardi
       Ryan McDonagh — Anton Stralman
     Braydon Coburn — Mikhail Sergachev

                    Goaltenders
                  Andrei Vasilevskiy
                  Louis Domingue
             
             
             
             

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1st Period
00:19  Bolts GOAL Paquette, assist Cakkahan   1-0 TBL
09:04  Bolts GOAL Palat, assist Kucherov   2-0 TBL

2nd Period
00:33  Bolts GOAL Callahan, assists Stralman & Kunitz  3-0 TBL
04:21  GOAL 92-Kuznetsov, assists 2-Niskanen & 77-Oshie   3-1 TBL

3rd Period
18:24  GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 20-Eller   3-2 TBL

FINAL:   3-2 TBL







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by Isabelle Khurshudyan, Samantha Pell, Neil Greenberg and Scott Allen May 19 at 1:02 PM

2018 NHL playoffs: Capitals-Lightning Game 5

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Tampa Bay Lightning center Brayden Point celebrates a goal with center Tyler Johnson in Game 4. (Nick Wass/Associated Press)



Eastern Conference Finals: Game 5

Washington Capitals vs. Tampa Bay Lightning
Series: Tied 2-2
Saturday May 19, 7:15 p.m. ET, Amalie Arena
TV: NBC, CBC, TVAS

Remaining schedule
Game 6: at Washington, 8 p.m. Monday May 21
Game 7 (if necessary): at Tampa Bay, 8:00 p.m. Wednesday May 23



Top story lines

Discipline: Considering the Lightning power play is 6 for 14 in this series, Capitals center Lars Eller knows taking five minor penalties in two games is too much, especially since he’s one of Washington’s top penalty killers.

“It’s an easy fix,” Eller said. “Things happen. Just got to be a little more cautious in certain situations. There’s maybe one I had to take, especially the last one. Guy is coming in, skating into the slot with the puck, so got to try to do something. Yeah, five over two games is too much, so I got to be a little better. It’s an area I can improve.”

But at even-strength, Eller has continued to play well. During the four games Nicklas Backstrom was out, he scored two goals with three assists.

“Yeah, that’s what I’m going to choose to focus on,” Eller said. “I’m not going to choose to focus on five or two incidents that happened in a split second over the last couple weeks, let that bring me down. That’s not how I’m going to look at it. I’m going to focus on all the good stuff we’ve done, all the time we spent in our zone, all the good things the team has done. I’m confident. I’m not happy sitting out in the box, giving them those opportunities, but I’m going to improve that.”

• Andre Burakovsky: Washington’s skilled 23-year-old winger missed 10 playoff games because of an undisclosed “upper-body” injury that required surgery, and he has struggled since his return to the lineup. Burakovsky has taken just two shots in four games, and he had a minus-one rating on Thursday night.

That’s why Capitals Coach Barry Trotz will make Burakovsky a healthy scratch for Game 5. Veteran Alex Chiasson will draw back into the lineup. It’s been a frustrating season for the Swede, who broke his thumb early in the season and missed 20 games. Including this playoff injury, Burakovsky has had three significant ailments in the past two seasons, and his production has suffered. After scoring 17 goals with 21 assists during the 2015-16 campaign, Burakovsky had 35 points last season and that declined again this year with 12 goals and 13 assists through 56 games.

“This is now business right now,” Trotz said. “Talking with staff and looking at his game and all that, we just felt that this is the best lineup for tonight. It doesn’t mean that Andre’s not going to be back in or anything like that. He’s a good young player. He’s just missed a lot of time and just really hasn’t had as much impact as we had hoped.”

• Hot goaltending: For a first time this postseason, Capitals goaltender Braden Holtby has lost back-to-back games, allowing four goals in Game 3 and then three goals in Game 4. Meanwhile, his counterpart in Andrei Vasilevskiy has been the difference for the Lightning. After receiving criticism for leaky performances earlier in the series, Vasilevskiy has responded with two of his best showings in the postseason, including a remarkable 36-save effort in Game 4.

While Tampa Bay is determined to take pressure off Vasilevskiy by taking better care of the puck and limiting Washington’s rush opportunities, the Capitals are looking to create more traffic in front of the net.

“It looked like we had some good chances. I think overall, if you look at the first two games, got a little more in front of the net. Maybe shot it a little more, too,” Backstrom said. “He’s not going to let in goals when he sees the puck.”

Players to watch

Nicklas Backstrom: It’s natural for players to look a step slow in their first game back from injury, and though it’d been two weeks since Backstrom’s last game, Trotz said he didn’t doubt that his top center would find a way to be effective. He had planned to perhaps ease him in, but then Backstrom ended up playing 18:51. Defenseman Brooks Orpik said he was surprised at how Backstrom won his first three faceoffs, as some thought that could be an injury with his right hand injured. Backstrom will be back on the second line with wingers T.J. Oshie and Chandler Stephenson in Game 5.

“That would have been pretty disappointing if the team finally kind of got over that hurdle, then he wasn’t a part of it, with how big a part of the team he is,” Orpik said. “I know he was pretty excited about it. You know Nick, he’s pretty quiet, keeps to himself. When he was hurt, kind of just did his thing. He wasn’t a distraction. We all kind of knew we’d get him back at some point.”

Alex Killorn: A six-year veteran of the Lightning, Killorn finished with a career-high in points this season with 15 goals and 32 assists. He scored the game-winning goal in Thursday night’s Game 5, and Tampa Bay Coach John Cooper said he’d like to see Killorn shooting the puck more because he’s got such a good release. Through 14 playoff games, Killorn has five goals and two assists.

“Alex is an important part of our team,” Cooper said. “He’s been an important part in many playoff series for us. Would we have liked a little bit more production out of that line? There’s no question. The one thing, you can sit here and say production, production, production. Talk to me about how they’ve been on the penalty kill. He’s done really well. Some of it doesn’t always add up in the point total.”


Pregame reading

Immerse yourself in the Capitals’ postseason with The Post’s coverage of the Stanley Cup playoffs:

Capitals’ ghosts of collapses past have suddenly sprung to life (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/capitals-ghosts-of-collapses-past-have-suddenly-sprung-to-life/2018/05/18/bcae5dc6-5ad6-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html)
The Capitals’ overachieving year threatens, again, to end in doom and gloom (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/the-capitals-overachieving-year-threatens-again-to-end-in-doom-and-gloom/2018/05/18/93b88104-5abc-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html)
Nicklas Backstrom returns, and the Capitals are again a team in full (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/nicklas-backstrom-returns-and-the-capitals-are-again-a-team-in-full/2018/05/18/02076aca-5a55-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html)
Tampa Bay’s penalty kill picks ‘lesser of the evils’ in Game 4 win over Capitals (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/18/tampa-bays-penalty-kill-picks-lesser-of-evils-in-game-4-win-over-caps/)
For whatever reason, the Capitals are not at home in their own building (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/for-whatever-reason-the-capitals-are-not-at-home-in-their-own-building/2018/05/17/028e17a6-5a0e-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html)
Lightning, Andrei Vasilevskiy withstand Capitals’ barrage to tie Eastern Conference finals (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/17/2018-nhl-playoffs-lightning-capitals-game-4-analysis/)
Unburdened by previous playoff baggage, Capitals’ young players help carry the load (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/16/unburdened-by-previous-playoff-baggage-capitals-young-players-help-carry-the-load/?utm_term=.e2d4de776524)
After an uncharacteristic playoff performance, Braden Holtby takes stock — and moves on (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/16/after-an-uncharacteristic-playoff-performance-braden-holtby-takes-stock-and-moves-on/?utm_term=.702b115bef45)
Victor Hedman is ‘all over the ice’ in Lightning’s Game 3 win over Capitals (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/16/victor-hedman-is-all-over-the-ice-in-lightnings-game-3-win-over-capitals/?utm_term=.514cc1073e1d)
After being blamed for Game 3 loss, Caps fans destroy broom signed by Nicklas Backstrom (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/05/17/after-being-blamed-for-game-3-loss-caps-fans-destroy-broom-signed-by-nicklas-backstrom/?utm_term=.ca93861c97d9)
I’ll have what Alex Ovechkin is having: Fans can’t get enough of Mamma Lucia’s chicken Parmesan (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/05/17/ill-have-what-alex-ovechkin-is-having-fans-cant-get-enough-of-mamma-lucias-chicken-parmesan/?utm_term=.cd04f9278c4d)
Steven Stamkos is healthy, confident and ready to lead the Lightning’s comeback (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/17/steven-stamkos-is-healthy-confident-and-ready-to-lead-the-lightnings-comeback/?utm_term=.aaa6670139f3)
In what could be his last run with Capitals, relentless Jay Beagle refuses to yield (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/14/in-what-could-be-his-last-run-with-capitals-relentless-jay-beagle-refuses-to-yield/?utm_term=.a81992f0b3e9)
Tony Kornheiser on the Capitals: ‘They’re going to win the Stanley Cup’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/05/15/tony-kornheiser-on-the-capitals-theyre-going-to-win-the-stanley-cup/?utm_term=.a0c55051b570)
Between cancer treatments at the Mayo Clinic, Caps fan flies home to attend Game 3 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/05/15/between-cancer-treatments-at-the-mayo-clinic-caps-fan-flies-home-to-attend-game-3/?utm_term=.cba3fa3ba92d)
Caps fan’s viral selfie with Evgeny Kuznetsov was even more charming than it seemed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/05/14/caps-fans-viral-selfie-with-evgeny-kuznetsov-was-even-more-charming-than-it-seemed/?utm_term=.401287de812b)
The Caps and Nats are rolling, and Barry Trotz and Dave Martinez can’t stop texting each other (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/05/14/the-caps-and-nats-are-rolling-and-barry-trotz-and-dave-martinez-cant-stop-texting-each-other/?utm_term=.6887740d9994)
These Stanley Cup playoffs have given the Capitals all they can handle. And they’ve handled it just fine. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/these-stanley-cup-playoffs-have-given-the-capitals-all-they-can-handle-and-theyve-handled-it-just-fine/2018/05/13/b837341a-56e5-11e8-8836-a4a123c359ab_story.html?utm_term=.4c7afdb3d040)
Lars Eller steps out of injured Nicklas Backstrom’s shadow and into the spotlight (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/12/lars-eller-steps-into-spotlight-for-washington-capitals-with-nicklas-backstrom-injured/?utm_term=.f3bc53d1a360)
Lightning defenseman tried to copy Alex Ovechkin’s moves. Now he’s trying to stop them. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/12/lightning-defenseman-who-tried-to-copy-ovechkins-moves-is-now-trying-to-stop-them/?utm_term=.96a62b91c82c)
‘We are all about the Rangers South’: Capitals face familiar playoff foes in Tampa (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/10/we-are-all-about-the-rangers-south-capitals-face-familiar-playoff-foes-in-tampa/?utm_term=.c3a08d47858f)
Barry Trotz lacks a contract extension, but has perspective as Capitals pursue Stanley Cup (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/05/10/barry-trotz-lacks-a-contract-extension-but-has-perspective-as-capitals-pursue-stanley-cup/?utm_term=.df389fdfc9a4)
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: alta on Saturday May 19, 2018, 05:07:29 PM Eastern
The fat lady isn't even gonna warm up for at least one more game, and no, this does not condone rally phats :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 05:25:46 PM Eastern
    Not surprised with the Burakovsky scratch. Surprised it didn't happen sooner. He has fallen down the depth chart this year being surpassed by rookies Stephenson and Vrana. He could be passed by more guys next year. His game isn't making any progress at all.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 05:47:22 PM Eastern
    Not surprised with the Burakovsky scratch. Surprised it didn't happen sooner. He has fallen down the depth chart this year being surpassed by rookies Stephenson and Vrana. He could be passed by more guys next year. His game isn't making any progress at all.


He just didn't fit in the line up with how we've been playing in the playoffs. I have no idea why he was given a jersey after injury, should of sat until next season. He's pretty one dimensional, and we've been playing a team first defense (when we've looked good anyway) these playoffs. Glad to see him scratched.


Also I'm actually here for this game tonight. Hooray? :P I hope the boys show up and realize that just because they had success on the road in Games 1 and 2 doesn't mean squat about tonight. We need to take the lead back home and show some killer instinct, otherwise this series will be nothing more than a good start.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: alta on Saturday May 19, 2018, 06:07:18 PM Eastern
and need I remind you people that it took six game to get through the Hens and Columpus, and that this was the sky is falling attitude in round 1....

https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/index.php/topic,154.0.html (https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/index.php/topic,154.0.html)

and, the Caps are in position now to win this at home, for the fans
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:14:01 PM Eastern
why am I so nervous with a pit in my stomach?


Oh that's right... I'm a caps fan...
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:18:01 PM Eastern
The stupid horse won already. Move on to a real sport. Does anyone really care about horse racing anymore? This is a leftover from the days where apart from working and growing your garden there was little to do for entertainment.  With all the money in horse betting I would be surprised if these horses did not have an electric asshole zapper that could give the horse either incentive to move faster or an ass so clenched that he says "fuck it" and loses.

Hockey please.


I got a bad feeling that we lose this one 4-3 based on poor start and shitty refereeing. Ovie gets one, Kuzy gets one, and I see one D-man getting one, maybe Orlov.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:21:10 PM Eastern
These bozos are not even  covering anything exciting, even for horse racing. WTF are they still doing on the air?

(https://blog.itil.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/flogging_dead_horse_what.jpg)
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:27:39 PM Eastern
Thats the series. Right there.


Fuck this.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:29:03 PM Eastern
why am I so nervous with a pit in my stomach?


Oh that's right... I'm a caps fan...


That's why... lol.


Bad pass followed by coasting and reaching.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:30:10 PM Eastern
  Some weak play by Kuzy and Niskanen
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:32:11 PM Eastern
We look weak on our sticks already tonight. Weak in general. I'm starting to think DC's argument about us being fatigued may be relevant. We just look, out of it. Complete role reversal here versus the first two games of the series.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:35:44 PM Eastern
We look weak on our sticks already tonight. Weak in general. I'm starting to think DC's argument about us being fatigued may be relevant. We just look, out of it. Complete role reversal here versus the first two games of the series.
  It could be fatigue. First 2 series went 6 games each and there was a few of games in there
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: newtoCapsparty on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:38:08 PM Eastern
Hi everybody...just checking in now, trying to catch up on my recorded version.  Horrible start, obviously.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:41:13 PM Eastern
  It could be fatigue. First 2 series went 6 games each and there was a few of games in there


Yeah I wonder if it's mental fatigue more than physical? It's not as if the guys aren't still showing skating bursts and energy, it's more it appears their reads are a hair too slow, and it's creating situations where the Bolts player are chasing to loose pucks just before we are. We end up looking "slower" but it's just the read and react time that is just off.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:42:08 PM Eastern
Fucking Orlov.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:42:51 PM Eastern
Orlov was tripped
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: SpecialGoodn3ss on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:44:20 PM Eastern
Orlov was tripped


Does it really matter at this point?


Writing is on the wall. We made it to the third round, which is great but that is as far as we are going.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:44:38 PM Eastern
I would genuinely enjoy beating the absolute shit out of Pierre.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:45:40 PM Eastern
Orlov was tripped
I agree. That should have been called because it created a scoring chance.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:46:16 PM Eastern
I would genuinely enjoy beating the absolute shit out of Pierre.
   He could probably kick your ass. :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:46:51 PM Eastern

Does it really matter at this point?


Writing is on the wall. We made it to the third round, which is great but that is as far as we are going.

You are tempting me to bring back the negative likes or dislike button.  :raspberry:


Of course it matters if a trip is not called and it leads to a score for the opponent.
 
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:46:55 PM Eastern

Yeah I wonder if it's mental fatigue more than physical? It's not as if the guys aren't still showing skating bursts and energy, it's more it appears their reads are a hair too slow, and it's creating situations where the Bolts player are chasing to loose pucks just before we are. We end up looking "slower" but it's just the read and react time that is just off.


On the first goal Kuzy was gliding to the puck... taking his time to try and do something fancy.  He got out hustled.  Plain and simple.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:49:05 PM Eastern
Bench....Brett...Connolly
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: alta on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:49:39 PM Eastern
WTF Conno??
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:50:57 PM Eastern
I don't see how that's a penalty on us. The idiot couldn't stay on his feet.  This basically means all you have to do is stick your leg out in front of an opponent coming by, then fall down and you got a free penalty. BS.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:53:40 PM Eastern
Bench....Brett...Connolly
Bench... Cut/Give Away . . . Brett...Connolly
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:55:27 PM Eastern
Would anyone feel that much better if caps were up 2-0?
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 07:56:18 PM Eastern
Bench.... Cut/Give Away Brett...Connolly

I watched that back. That was not a penalty IMO. It's to easy to move your feet three inches into a skater coming buy and fall down. Connolly had as much right to be there as anyone.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:00:03 PM Eastern
Well at least Buras scratched


I wonder if Trotz has to tell GMBetaMale and Dickless that his “injury” is acting up 🤣
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:00:16 PM Eastern
Eller us a fucking idiot. We are trying to make a line change and instead of getting it deep he turns it over on a toe drag entering the zone.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: newtoCapsparty on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:01:18 PM Eastern
I'm not sure but it looks like Holtby is doing cartwheels in the net trying desperately to block shots and the defenders in front of him look confused?  slow? 
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: zerofox on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:03:31 PM Eastern
Well guys and gals, looks like that's it for the Caps. Practically a must-win game 5 to prevent TBL from getting into series clinching position, and we can't even come out playing. We're flat as usual. Pathetic 2 shots on goal this period. Fuck this team. Hope it gets blown up.

See ya guys in the off season
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:03:46 PM Eastern
On the bright side they didn't give up a late period goal...
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:05:33 PM Eastern
Well at least Buras scratched


I wonder if Trotz has to tell GMBetaMale and Dickless that his “injury” is acting up 🤣


I really wonder what Patrick's influence is on this team...
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:07:13 PM Eastern
Well we got 4 shots on net. The last 2 were from outside the blue line. Did we even get a scoring chance in that period?
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:09:12 PM Eastern
This team has finally hit bottom.  You get over your arch rival and then take a 2-0 lead on the road and now you are on the verge of getting blown out to go down 3-0.  I thought once we beat the Hens it would be "house money" and I wouldn't care all that much how we did, but they drew me in and fucked me up the ass one more time.  I gotta hand it to the Caps.  Just when you think they outperformed expectations and I have to be happy, I'm as pissed off as I ever have been in one of our awful season-ending losses.  To come out not ready and to have Orlov, who's been our best defender this series, commit two turnovers for goals, just really is as fitting as it gets.

Fuck this team.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:10:46 PM Eastern
Well we got 4 shots on net. The last 2 were from outside the blue line. Did we even get a scoring chance in that period?


No.  Maybe the Vrana chance.  Just awful.  Game is too tough for our centers.  Kuzy and Backy way too soft.  Eller too dumb.  Just a total fucking embarrassment.  They are skating circles around us.  If not for some good saves from 70 we are down 4 or 5.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: zerofox on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:12:34 PM Eastern
This team has finally hit bottom.  You get over your arch rival and then take a 2-0 lead on the road and now you are on the verge of getting blown out to go down 3-0.  I thought once we beat the Hens it would be "house money" and I wouldn't care all that much how we did, but they drew me in and fucked me up the ass one more time.  I gotta hand it to the Caps.  Just when you think they outperformed expectations and I have to be happy, I'm as pissed off as I ever have been in one of our awful season-ending losses.  To come out not ready and to have Orlov, who's been our best defender this series, commit two turnovers for goals, just really is as fitting as it gets.

Fuck this team.


Yep, my thoughts exactly. I never expected them to even get past the 1st round. Once they did, I never expected them to beat PITT. But they did and I was ecstatic that we at least beat our demons and were playing with house money. Never expected us to get a 2-0 lead over TBL, but once we were in that position, I actually started thinking "could this be our year???" I guess once those thoughts came, the Caps in typical dipshit Caps fashion disappointed all around.


And again, the fact that fucking Las Vegas with a team built from the ground up over the course of 1 season is likely making it to the finals and has a good chance to win it all in their first year, without many real stars, makes me even more salty.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:14:40 PM Eastern
You could see that as the series has been wearing on TB has picked up speed in their game and we have slowed down.  It would be too easy to blame it on us having played more hockey than they have in the first 2 rounds (by a lot), but that doesn't help.  We just look discombobulated, like we haven't been playing together all season.  Bringing 19 back has caused new unfamiliarity that was not present before this. Just not a good enough effort from top to bottom.  You can't play this game like a bunch of scared pussies and we are.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:16:08 PM Eastern
Bad start, for sure, but it's only the 1st period.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:16:36 PM Eastern

And again, the fact that fucking Las Vegas with a team built from the ground up over the course of 1 season is likely making it to the finals and has a good chance to win it all in their first year, without many real stars, makes me even more salty.


Particularly because our fucking brain trust didn't protect Nate Schmidt who is going to be an all-star dman in this league for the foreseeable future.  I could see that last year and I'm just a dipshit fan.  How would it feel to have Forsberg and Schmidt.  That's why this organization sucks.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:17:21 PM Eastern
Bad start, for sure, but it's only the 1st period.


LOL, Lil.  This ain't your first rodeo.  When you ride with the caps you are the rodeo clown.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:17:33 PM Eastern

I really wonder what Patrick's influence is on this team...
Well. . . What has changed since GMGM was fired and GMBetaMale was made GM?


The Caps have stayed the course that started 10yrs ago, and GMGM made a team of unknowns that are one win away from going to the finals.  Add to the historic rumors like wanting to hire Cooper over Oates, Nylander deal etc, where GMGM had to go against what he advised (and these are just rumors), there is clearly another layer to investigate.


That leaves two people to be accountable: Ted and Patrick.  Ted has stated he leaves “hockey decisions to hockey people”, it’s becoming clear that Patrick is the wrong hockey person
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:17:56 PM Eastern
Yeah I may be interested in seeing Boyd, Gersich and Walker next game. Seriously. Bench Backy and Connolly. I know that seems wild but we need a jump and urgency in our game.


Still lots of hockey to be played tonight, but if they play like they did in that 1st we aren't doing anything here this evening.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:18:09 PM Eastern

No.  Maybe the Vrana chance.  Just awful.  Game is too tough for our centers.  Kuzy and Backy way too soft.  Eller too dumb.  Just a total fucking embarrassment.  They are skating circles around us.  If not for some good saves from 70 we are down 4 or 5.
   On the HF boards a lot of people are putting the blame all on Holtby. They don't mention the turnovers and poor defensive play.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:20:10 PM Eastern
Yeah I may be interested in seeing Boyd, Gersich and Walker next game. Seriously. Bench Backy and Connolly. I know that seems wild but we need a jump and urgency in our game.


Still lots of hockey to be played tonight, but if they play like they did in that 1st we aren't doing anything here this evening.
   We fans sure have some crazy ideas.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:21:21 PM Eastern

Particularly because our fucking brain trust didn't protect Nate Schmidt who is going to be an all-star dman in this league for the foreseeable future.  I could see that last year and I'm just a dipshit fan.  How would it feel to have Forsberg and Schmidt.  That's why this organization sucks.
   Pretty tough to protect Schmidt unless we decided to protect 4 dmen and only 4 forwards
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:21:35 PM Eastern
Well. . . What has changed since GMGM was fired and GMBetaMale was made GM?


The Caps have stayed the course that started 10yrs ago, and GMGM made a team of unknowns that are one win away from going to the finals.  Add to the historic rumors like wanting to hire Cooper over Oates, Nylander deal etc, where GMGM had to go against what he advised (and these are just rumors), there is clearly another layer to investigate.


That leaves two people to be accountable: Ted and Patrick.  Ted has stated he leaves “hockey decisions to hockey people”, it’s becoming clear that Patrick is the wrong hockey person


Yeah I've been thinking about it a lot.  Engylland comes to mind.  Never got a sniff here.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:23:07 PM Eastern
   We fans sure have some crazy ideas.


We had all the youngsters in against the Pens in the statement Game 6 that became a carryover for us in the next two games against the Bolts. Too many passengers, not enough urgency. Plus it looked to me like the kids just shut up and played the system, and I don't think I've seen that from some of our other guys.


As for Backy, he's clearly better than the rookies. But he doesn't look 100% to me at all. He's looked lost out there trying to catch up to the play.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: newtoCapsparty on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:24:03 PM Eastern
Ugh.  Where is our sticks-on-the-ice defense that played so well in games 1 and 2??  People are skating right past our defense.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:24:35 PM Eastern
No goal. Off the glove. Of course, the refs suck, so who knows. The refs have screwed this game already.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:25:29 PM Eastern
No goal. Off the glove. Of course, the refs suck, so who knows. The refs have screwed this game already.


Not intentional. Ovie hit the player into the puck into the net.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: newtoCapsparty on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:27:05 PM Eastern
   On the HF boards a lot of people are putting the blame all on Holtby. They don't mention the turnovers and poor defensive play.
I'm seeing Holtby doing acrobatics in the net trying to defend...turnovers and poor defense seem glaring to me, hardly Holtby's fault.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:32:08 PM Eastern
Niskanen and Orlov have been absolutely awful. Both are minus 3. Supposed our top d pairing. Hard to believe but Carlson has been our best defensive dman in the playoffs.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:33:33 PM Eastern
 :92z:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:33:44 PM Eastern
   Pretty tough to protect Schmidt unless we decided to protect 4 dmen and only 4 forwards
It could have been done with some creative maneuvering.


But, how GMBetaMale didn’t anticipate that his former boss would snatch Schmidt up like a free glass of $200 an once scotch is puzzling to worrisome.


It also brings to question, if he was gonna extend Kuzy, Eller, Bura, and Oshie that year. . . why didn’t he do it before the draft?   That makes each of those a higher risk for GMGM, so leave Eller or Bura with long high dollar contracts, which GMGM is avoiding, so you can protect Schmidt
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: newtoCapsparty on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:34:34 PM Eastern
Whew!  Relief...
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: alta on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:41:27 PM Eastern
They get 1 back!
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:47:35 PM Eastern
It could have been done with some creative maneuvering.


But, how GMBetaMale didn’t anticipate that his former boss would snatch Schmidt up like a free glass of $200 an once scotch is puzzling to worrisome.


It also brings to question, if he was gonna extend Kuzy, Eller, Bura, and Oshie that year. . . why didn’t he do it before the draft?   That makes each of those a higher risk for GMGM, so leave Eller or Bura with long high dollar contracts, which GMGM is avoiding, so you can protect Schmidt
   So you think we should have protected 4 dmen? That's what vI thought bwe should do right from the start. Everyone thought we would lose Grubvauer I knew we would lose Schmidt. Good dmen are hard to find.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 08:57:37 PM Eastern
   So you think we should have protected 4 dmen? That's what vI thought bwe should do right from the start. Everyone thought we would lose Grubvauer I knew we would lose Schmidt. Good dmen are hard to find.
I think we should if protected a budding player with a cheap contract and left GMGM with the choice of desirable players with contracts that would be a detourant so he takes Grubby, etc. So we end up in the same, or better,  salary situation, plus Schmidt, and worse case,eventually having to choose between Schmidt and Carlson


GMBetaMale had the biggest advantage of any GM.  It was his former boss for fuck sakes.  He scouted the players with him, he knew his philosophies, he had cap room, he had everything . . . But now we have a shitty DCorps and GMGM has an elite Dman thats better then anyone we have, particularly the ones that were protected.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:06:34 PM Eastern
   So you think we should have protected 4 dmen? That's what vI thought bwe should do right from the start. Everyone thought we would lose Grubvauer I knew we would lose Schmidt. Good dmen are hard to find.


100%.  You protect the best PLAYERS with the most future upside.  Not by position.  You can always fill in.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:07:36 PM Eastern
Someone explain to me how a professional hockey team in a game 5 of a 2-2 series doesn't show up for the first 21 minutes of the game?  Unfuckingreal.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:08:10 PM Eastern
I think we should if protected a budding player with a cheap contract and left GMGM with the choice of desirable players with contracts that would be a detourant so he takes Grubby etc. and we end up in the same salary situation, plus Schmidt, and eventually having to choose between Schmidt and Carlson


GMBetaMale had the biggest advantage of any GM.  It was his former boss for fuck sakes.  He scouted the players with him, he knew his philosophies, he had cap room, he had everything . . . But now we have a shitty DCorps and GMGM has an elite Dman thats better then anyone we have, particularly the ones that were protected.
   Odd that you like Schmidt since he is one of those pucking moving dmen that you normally don't like. I still don't think Schmidt is a shutdown dman. Vegas is playing a defensive system that relies in all 5 guys. They dont really have a shutdown guy.
   Apparently we don't either. Niskanen is suoposed to be but he is playing like a rookie. He has been our worst player tonight, although Orlov is giving him a good run.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:08:46 PM Eastern
Our lack of passing skills continues to blow my mind. I fucking hate the dump ins and pass and pray bullshit. We are still refusing to crash the net. We missed a few great chances at goals if only more than two Caps were in the offensive zone instead of  waiting back at the blue line.  It's not like the Bolts were all back on the blue line too. The Bolts were back checking in force, so we need to be in there FIGHTING.  IT'S FUCKING MIND BOGGLING. You can't score unless you attack!
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:08:57 PM Eastern
Yeah for me the Schmidt debate was always a matter of protecting him over Carlson. It isn't just due to Carlsons weaker areas in the D zone and the fact that his speed isn't what it used to be especially compared to Schmidt. It was all contracts. I don't think we resign John Carlson. He'll cost too much. He'll get a lot on the open market. So at that point we let Schmidt to keep Carlson until he hits FA next season. GMGM probably would of taken Gruby over Carlson honestly with the contract situation and age all factoring in. Or taken Carlson and traded him.


Better period for us, especially the last ten minutes we started to really push the forecheck. We need to keep getting dirty chances at the net and frustrate their goalie, maybe they can make a game of this yet but I'm not holding my breath. Tough to play down so much and TB knew it. The first period effort is likely to cost us the game.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:10:35 PM Eastern

100%.  You protect the best PLAYERS with the most future upside.  Not by position.  You can always fill in.
   The rules dictated how many players from each position we were allowed to protect. We had the choice if 3 dmen and 7 forwards which we did or 4 dmen and 4 forwards.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:11:41 PM Eastern
Yeah for me the Schmidt debate was always a matter of protecting him over Carlson. It isn't just due to Carlsons weaker areas in the D zone and the fact that his speed isn't what it used to be especially compared to Schmidt. It was all contracts. I don't think we resign John Carlson. He'll cost too much. He'll get a lot on the open market. So at that point we let Schmidt to keep Carlson until he hits FA next season. GMGM probably would of taken Gruby over Carlson honestly with the contract situation and age all factoring in. Or taken Carlson and traded him.


Better period for us, especially the last ten minutes we started to really push the forecheck. We need to keep getting dirty chances at the net and frustrate their goalie, maybe they can make a game of this yet but I'm not holding my breath. Tough to play down so much and TB knew it. The first period effort is likely to cost us the game.
   Schmidt isn't better than Carlson defensively. He is in a better defensive system.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:11:45 PM Eastern
One more thing. Why are we not beating the shit out of the Bolts and finishing our checks like tanks running over these little guys? Since game 1 we have stopped using our size advantage to wear these punks down.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: RavenCp on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:12:25 PM Eastern
Doesn't look good, carry on loosing stick.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:13:17 PM Eastern
No pps yet for guys tonight. Bad thing is the one penalty Tampa should have gotten resulted in a goal against us. That play could have been a turning point.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:18:47 PM Eastern
   Schmidt isn't better than Carlson defensively. He is in a better defensive system.


Eh, maybe agree to disagree here. I think it's a tough argument because I think that Carlson has the higher upside to make a better defensive play. But I also think that, for the minutes he plays, the type of mistakes sometimes that Carlson makes are World Jr levels. I feel like Schmidt fits better into a more well coached system, and doesn't stick out.


Ultimately you may be right, Carlson might be all things considered a better defensive player. But Carlson is the one more likely to commit a boneheaded mistake at a key moment, costing the team. He's also the one more likely to commit a good underrated defensive play that leads to a big goal or win too. Sometimes though I think we run with a bit too many Carlsons in our line up. Players that swing too hard, it's a big reason I felt our identity was that. Bending with the narrative, the highs are high the lows are low, if you will.


See the debate I was having earlier about the rookies in the line up. Sometimes, as much as it sucks you'd rather have a plug to fit into the line up and not cause any waves than someone who has more to offer but has high risk and high reward type qualities.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:20:11 PM Eastern
Caps can score three goals and win this period...  will they?
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: RavenCp on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:21:00 PM Eastern
The Caps must be in panic mode.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:22:18 PM Eastern
Caps can score three goals and win this period...  will they?


Hell the Caps, if pushed and hungry can score 6 goals in a period and utterly dismantle a team. Even this squad can. We absolutely need Mr. Hyde tonight though, not the Dr. Jekyl we got in the first period.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:25:02 PM Eastern

Eh, maybe agree to disagree here. I think it's a tough argument because I think that Carlson has the higher upside to make a better defensive play. But I also think that, for the minutes he plays, the type of mistakes sometimes that Carlson makes are World Jr levels. I feel like Schmidt fits better into a more well coached system, and doesn't stick out.


Ultimately you may be right, Carlson might be all things considered a better defensive player. But Carlson is the one more likely to commit a boneheaded mistake at a key moment, costing the team. He's also the one more likely to commit a good underrated defensive play that leads to a big goal or win too. Sometimes though I think we run with a bit too many Carlsons in our line up. Players that swing too hard, it's a big reason I felt our identity was that. Bending with the narrative, the highs are high the lows are low, if you will.


See the debate I was having earlier about the rookies in the line up. Sometimes, as much as it sucks you'd rather have a plug to fit into the line up and not cause any waves than someone who has more to offer but has high risk and high reward type qualities.
   Lol you talk about Carlson making bonehead plays but he hasn't really done that in these playoffs. You should be discussing Niskanen and Orlov making bonehead plays.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: newtoCapsparty on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:26:28 PM Eastern
Caps can score three goals and win this period...  will they?
At this point, I am praying for overtime!   ;D
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:32:48 PM Eastern
   Lol you talk about Carlson making bonehead plays but he hasn't really done that in these playoffs. You should be discussing Niskanen and Orlov making bonehead plays.

You are delusional. Carlson, although much improved, easily owns the lead in bonehead moves even if you combined those of Nisky and Orly.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: IDontGiveaChuk on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:35:17 PM Eastern
You are delusional. Carlson, although much improved, easily owns the lead in bonehead moves even if you combined those of Nisky and Orly.


No way! Agree to disagree. Never know what is going to happen when the puck is on nisky's stick. He's a turnover machine in his zone. You can ALMOST say the same about Orlov but not quite, imo.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:35:50 PM Eastern
You are delusional. Carlson, although much improved, easily owns the lead in bonehead moves even if you combined those of Nisky and Orly.
   Not in these playoffs. He has been lights years ahead of any other dman on this team. Defensive zone included.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: IDontGiveaChuk on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:35:54 PM Eastern
Anyone still watching...?  :O=
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:37:43 PM Eastern
  Kempny just got in the way of a Carlson shot that looked like was headed to the corner of the net.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:38:21 PM Eastern
Anyone still watching...?  :O=
   I'm trying to but the damn dog won't leave me alone.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:44:06 PM Eastern
   Schmidt isn't better than Carlson defensively. He is in a better defensive system.
Iiiiii don’t know man . . . These playoffs he’s shut down his side of the ice. He’s all over the puck holder pushing them to the boards.  disrupting the play, not letting get a pass off let alone a shot off.  Despite the lack of decapicating hits, he’s been one of the better Dman these playoffs



Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:44:12 PM Eastern
GODDAMN THESE MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLES.  GIVE AWAY 21 MINUTES AND THEN DECIDE TO SHOW SOME FUCKING HEART!  WHAT A BUNCH OF PUSSY-ASS FUCKING LOSERS.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: IDontGiveaChuk on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:46:34 PM Eastern
   I'm trying to but the damn dog won't leave me alone.


Ah hell, this one's over. Go play with the dog.


I wish I had a dog, man.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:48:26 PM Eastern
GODDAMN THESE MOTHERFUCKING ASSHOLES.  GIVE AWAY 21 MINUTES AND THEN DECIDE TO SHOW SOME FUCKING HEART!  WHAT A BUNCH OF PUSSY-ASS FUCKING LOSERS.
I think we’re seeing the results of Chicken Parm, beach trips, and skipping/taking easy to many days in the weight room

Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: IDontGiveaChuk on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:49:14 PM Eastern
You are delusional. Carlson, although much improved, easily owns the lead in bonehead moves even if you combined those of Nisky and Orly.


Hey, change that back! I'm not the carlson lover!!
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:49:24 PM Eastern
:8z:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:51:00 PM Eastern
Where was this Ovie the last 8 years?
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:51:37 PM Eastern
The refs owe us two PP's.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:53:40 PM Eastern
Iiiiii don’t know man . . . These playoffs he’s shut down his side of the ice. He’s all over the puck holder pushing them to the boards.  disrupting the play, not letting get a pass off let alone a shot off.  Despite the lack of decapicating hits, he’s been one of the better Dman these playoffs
   Vegas plays a team defensive system.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: RavenCp on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:55:06 PM Eastern
The Caps will win next one!
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:55:25 PM Eastern
This loss is on Niskanen and Orlov.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:55:31 PM Eastern
With 60 minutes of THAT kind of effort every game it would have been a sweep. I'm hugely disappointed at our pathetic effort and mad as hell at the refs.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: IDontGiveaChuk on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:56:04 PM Eastern
The Caps will win next one!


And lose game 7 ?


 ; )
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: OldHat on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:56:08 PM Eastern
Let's try playing a full 60 like the way Tharp always want to play the last 5 ffs. 
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:56:32 PM Eastern
Another great fucking example of how you can't play 39 minutes and then say, "we came back really well."  Bullshit.  IT MEANT NOTHING!  You either come out and play the full fucking game or you stay on the goddamn team bus.  Losing ass mentality in this fucking city.  Team is a piece of shit.  Organization sucks balls.  Fuck all these assholes.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:57:22 PM Eastern
Another Caps game where if we had played like we did in the third all game we would be walking away with a W. Tough loss, but you can't not show up to start the game. Simple as that. Too tough to score in the playoffs to play catch up all night. Takes too much out of you by nights end.


See you all Monday.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:57:48 PM Eastern
We are done.  Will lose game 6.  Get the golf clubs ready losers.  That's what you do best.  New records all the time. First team to go up 2-0 on the road in the conference final and lose.  Think asshole Teddy will hang a fucking banner for that shit?  Fuckbrain.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 09:59:56 PM Eastern
Why the fuck I allow myself to believe things are different is beyond me.  Perhaps the issue is 19 because 8 has been great and has been in the whole time.  Everyone jumps on Ovi as the "core" and the "reason."  Maybe Backstrom has no fucking balls and doesn't show up in the big games?
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:00:25 PM Eastern
FUCK YOU Niskanen
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Devise on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:00:49 PM Eastern
Where was this Ovie the last 8 years?


Man before he scored, there was a shift of pure passion in the zone where he out hustled several players in the offensive end and just out manned them on the puck. He went from board, to getting a few rebound attempts and pushing the net to rushing after the players who had the puck. I was taken aback for a second because I had to make sure that was Ovechkin I was seeing. Agreed here, you can totally tell he wants it, or that he senses with how deep we've gone this run and how much success we've had this is likely his shot at a Cup. He has to seal the deal now.


I hope he takes that type of effort into the LR and lets the boys see it. If anything the momentum should be on our side after that third period. But we are down in the series, and that is all that really matters at this point.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: richkrt99 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:04:12 PM Eastern
The problem with this series is that the Lightning are just better.
Total crap start for the Caps this game but even with 120% effort the Caps are just not good enough to beeat them. Tampa didn't show up the first two games and Vasi was shit. Now we are seeing the real Lighting and we are just not quite good enough to compete without the bounces going our way


And how can you not give the caps one lousy power play after Giving Tampa a goal by not calling a trip that lead directly to a goal?


Tampa is better on D and better on O. We tie in goal.
That adds up to Tsmoa winning.


I'm not giving up but it will take a miracle for the Caps to win.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:04:14 PM Eastern
Why the fuck I allow myself to believe things are different is beyond me.  Perhaps the issue is 19 because 8 has been great and has been in the whole time.  Everyone jumps on Ovi as the "core" and the "reason."  Maybe Backstrom has no fucking balls and doesn't show up in the big games?
   Why care you even discussing Ovi or Backstrom? Neither of them cost us this game. Niskanen single handedly lost this game for us. With a bit if help from Orlov. And Arm says Carlson makes bonehead plays. Carlson has cost us less in these playoffs than Niskanen did in this game alone. Fuck
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:04:49 PM Eastern
Callahan, Paquette, and Knuitz. . .


The Captain sure knew who to get to shut us down.


Wish to hell we’d use Beagles group like they do Paquettes

Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:07:54 PM Eastern
Too little, too late.  We lost it in the 1st.  What a shame. :-(
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: alta on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:09:41 PM Eastern
ok, so technically the fat lady is now getting warmed up


just to remind people, the Caps aren't eliminated until they lose 4
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:25:10 PM Eastern
And here we thought it was the Pens holding us back..  :rofl: :rofl: Unfortunately we need Holtby to not let in every mistake we make and lately he's not been doing that much... Can't/won't win a playoff series if the other teams goalie is better than yours..   :poop:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:25:35 PM Eastern
No way in hell they win two games now.  I'd be shocked if they can win on Monday.  Home ice is like a haunted house for them.  This series was basically over after Game 3 because, for some reason, the psyche of this franchise is one geared toward losing.  Just as many fans, or at least those who have been around, started to doubt seriously after Game3, I have no doubt that the team was doing the same.  They know the history here.  Many have participated in it.  Like I posted before, in the whole history of the NHL, teams with 2 game leads win 87% of the time.  Washington is 2-7 with 2 game leads and about to be 2-8.  How is that explained?
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:29:35 PM Eastern
And here we thought it was the Pens holding us back..  :rofl: :rofl: Unfortunately we need Holtby to not let in every mistake we make and lately he's not been doing that much... Can't/won't win a playoff series if the other teams goalie is better than yours..   :poop:


Holtby seems to always come up small at the worst times.  Tampa's game winning goal last game was a good example.  No way that should have gotten in.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:40:30 PM Eastern

Holtby seems to always come up small at the worst times.  Tampa's game winning goal last game was a good example.  No way that should have gotten in.
  I wouldn't blame Holtby for losing these games. But as I've said before for us to advance Holtby needs to win it for us.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:41:04 PM Eastern
   Why care you even discussing Ovi or Backstrom? Neither of them cost us this game. Niskanen single handedly lost this game for us. With a bit if help from Orlov. And Arm says Carlson makes bonehead plays. Carlson has cost us less in these playoffs than Niskanen did in this game alone. Fuck


I said Niskanen and Orlov sucked this game, but Backstrom is not 100% and he's hurting the team.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:41:39 PM Eastern
No way in hell they win two games now.  I'd be shocked if they can win on Monday.  Home ice is like a haunted house for them.  This series was basically over after Game 3 because, for some reason, the psyche of this franchise is one geared toward losing.  Just as many fans, or at least those who have been around, started to doubt seriously after Game3, I have no doubt that the team was doing the same.  They know the history here.  Many have participated in it.  Like I posted before, in the whole history of the NHL, teams with 2 game leads win 87% of the time.  Washington is 2-7 with 2 game leads and about to be 2-8.  How is that explained?
The psyche/mentality of the franchise is entertainment for 82 games and market “have a chance” to the tune of $300 tickets in the 400 section.


Until Ted cleans out the front office, namely Dickless Patrick and GMBetaMale, the “we have a chance” and “participantion trophy’s mean we won something so that’s good”, ain’t gonna change


“But we made it past two whole rounds!”
  :koolaid:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: hickster9 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:43:20 PM Eastern
Gang, if they could somehow play a full 60 minutes (for two full games), they would be in the Cup Finals.  Long stretches of controlling the play, but unfortunately long stretches of not showing up, taking shifts off, etc.  I do think this squad is different...they can dig something out.  I know the feeling of the fanbase is to be negative but I still believe they've got what it takes this time! 
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:43:43 PM Eastern
  I wouldn't blame Holtby for losing these games. But as I've said before for us to advance Holtby needs to win it for us.


Holtby is one of these guys who compile great overall stats but when you really need him to come up with a big save at a critical moment he doesn't do it.  Fleury, OTOH, is a guy who does.  That's the difference between guys who win in the playoffs and those who don't.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:44:16 PM Eastern
And here we thought it was the Pens holding us back..  :rofl: :rofl: Unfortunately we need Holtby to not let in every mistake we make and lately he's not been doing that much... Can't/won't win a playoff series if the other teams goalie is better than yours..   :poop:


Gotta call bullshit on that.  We made a ton of mistakes in the first and Holtby saved a bunch of them.  Vasi has been very good in the last 3 games but if you look at the goals scored -- very few Holts had a real shot at.  The first one he didn't even get in the net before they were free in the slot.  The second Niskanen went down to block and he couldn't possibly see and the third was the "punch-in" from McDonough after Strahlman undressed Niskanen.  Hard to fault him for any of those.  He saved a lot of other crappy plays.  Our D sucked in the first and at other times.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:46:20 PM Eastern
The psyche/mentality of the franchise is entertainment for 82 games and market “have a chance” to the tune of $300 tickets in the 400 section.


Until Ted cleans out the front office, namely Dickless Patrick and GMBetaMale, the “we have a chance” and “participantion trophy’s mean we won something so that’s good”, ain’t gonna change


“But we made it past two whole rounds!”





  :koolaid:




It's up to the fans to show they've had it.  If they lose on Monday, boo their asses off the ice.  No stinking stick salute to polite applause.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:46:27 PM Eastern
You guys blaming Holtby are fucked in the brain.  Really.  Without him we don't get out of the Columbus series and no way we beat Pittsburgh.  To say he doesn't come up big is fucking ridiculous. 
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:49:44 PM Eastern

I said Niskanen and Orlov sucked this game, but Backstrom is not 100% and he's hurting the team.
   Backstrom isn't really hurting the team because isn't an offense only player. Sure he would be better offensively is he was healthy but he isn't a liability.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:50:02 PM Eastern
You guys blaming Holtby are fucked in the brain.  Really.  Without him we don't get out of the Columbus series and no way we beat Pittsburgh.  To say he doesn't come up big is fucking ridiculous.


Nobody is saying he isn't good or doesn't have good games but he gets brain farts at the worst moments.  He was shaky as hell in Games 3 and 4.  Last year he wasn't good for a lot of the Pitt series.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:51:43 PM Eastern
You guys blaming Holtby are fucked in the brain.  Really.  Without him we don't get out of the Columbus series and no way we beat Pittsburgh.  To say he doesn't come up big is fucking ridiculous.
   I agree with you. Without Holtby we don't get past Columbus or Pittsburgh. And for us to get by Tampa I think we will need Holtby to win it for us. He might have to steal 2 games for us.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:52:19 PM Eastern
You guys blaming Holtby are fucked in the brain.  Really.  Without him we don't get out of the Columbus series and no way we beat Pittsburgh.  To say he doesn't come up big is fucking ridiculous.
There are 6 - 14 other guys that don’t come up big in playoff series that Holts bails out each game
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:53:44 PM Eastern

Nobody is saying he isn't good or doesn't have good games but he gets brain farts at the worst moments.  He was shaky as hell in Games 3 and 4.
   I didn't think Holtby was shaky. He wasnt lights out like he was in other games but I wouldn't call him shaky. Even tonight he was solid. Could have been 5-0 in the first period.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:54:21 PM Eastern
If we're relying on Holtby to win it for us then we're going to lose.  We have to play relentlessly in the other team's end for 60 minutes.  That's something we hardly ever do but that's the only hope for pulling this out.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:55:34 PM Eastern
I still believe we have a real shot at winning this series. We just have to play the way we CAN play a full 60 minutes and stop being lazy pansy asses.  It would help if we the refs would call a fair game, which they absolutely did not this game. We got robbed on one goal without a doubt. Orlov got tripped and that goal should never have counted because the goal was a direct result of taking him out.

I know in my heart that if we can make it to game 8 that we got this.  ;) :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday May 19, 2018, 10:56:51 PM Eastern
   I didn't think Holtby was shaky. He wasnt lights out like he was in other games but I wouldn't call him shaky. Even tonight he was solid. Could have been 5-0 in the first period.


He was shaky.  Game 3 especially.  The reasons for them losing are many and Holtby plays a part as well.  That doesn't mean it's all him or primarily him but he is part of it.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: RavenCp on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:01:04 PM Eastern

And lose game 7 ?


 ; )
That's I don't know, yet!
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:02:58 PM Eastern


Gotta call bullshit on that.  We made a ton of mistakes in the first and Holtby saved a bunch of them.  Vasi has been very good in the last 3 games but if you look at the goals scored -- very few Holts had a real shot at. 


You came up with some good "excuses" there.. And that's all they are, excuses.. So he made some saves that kept it from being what 4, 5, 6-2?? Does that make it better? I love Holtby, but fact is 3GA's every game is too many.. He either figures out how to stop a couple that normally get through, or we're done, period.. And good night!  :raspberry: lol
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: alta on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:03:27 PM Eastern
The team came out flat in the 1st of the last two games, you can't do that in the playoffs and expect to win
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning - Scoring Summary
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:03:54 PM Eastern
(https://galactichub.com/caps/scoring_summary.gif)

1st Period
00:19  Bolts GOAL Paquette, assist Cakkahan   1-0 TBL
09:04  Bolts GOAL Palat, assist Kucherov   2-0 TBL

2nd Period
00:33  Bolts GOAL Callahan, assists Stralman & Kunitz  3-0 TBL
04:21  GOAL 92-Kuznetsov, assists 2-Niskanen & 77-Oshie   3-1 TBL

3rd Period
18:24  GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 20-Eller   3-2 TBL

FINAL:   3-2 TBL
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:04:26 PM Eastern
There are 6 - 14 other guys that don’t come up big in playoff series that Holts bails out each game
   Agreed. There is too much emphasis on goaltenders letting in a goal. No one says what lead up to the goal.
  The first goal Orlov makes a weak pass in the neutral zone which shouldn't have been an issue since Kuzy and Niskanen were in position to make a play. Niskanen played it poorly and Tampa gets a mini breakaway 19 secs into the game.
   The second goal Orlov falls or was possibly tripped causing a turn over. Niskanen had as chance to make a play but backs in too deep then tries to go down and block the shot. He may have blocked Holtbys view of the puck in doing so.
    The 3rd goal Niskanen just got flat out beat around the edge by Stralman. Holtby did make the initial save but Tampa got a flukey bounce. I think it went off Callahan's hand. This was not a goaltending issue.
    Niskanen was at least partially responsible for all 3 goals. He was by far the worst player on the ice for either team. Wtf. He is a veteran and supposed to be our shutdown guy. I don't see it.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:08:04 PM Eastern

He was shaky.  Game 3 especially.  The reasons for them losing are many and Holtby plays a part as well.  That doesn't mean it's all him or primarily him but he is part of it.
   I'm not excluding Holtby but he is the last guy I would fault. He has possibly been our best player in these playoffs. Kuzy, Ovi band Carlson have played well too. But for consistency its Holtby and Carlson that have been our best.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:13:00 PM Eastern

You came up with some good "excuses" there.. And that's all they are, excuses.. So he made some saves that kept it from being what 4, 5, 6-2?? Does that make it better? I love Holtby, but fact is 3GA's every game is too many.. He either figures out how to stop a couple that normally get through, or we're done, period.. And good night!  :raspberry: lol
   I think your expectations of Holtby are very unrealistic. I predicted when Grubauer started that he would fail and we would put Holtby in and put all the pressure on him to win this for us. And that is exactly what is happening. Without Holtby we don't get by Columbus or Pittsburgh but if we lose to Tampa its Holtbys fault. Nothing like throwing a guy under the bus.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: apace41 on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:21:44 PM Eastern

You came up with some good "excuses" there.. And that's all they are, excuses.. So he made some saves that kept it from being what 4, 5, 6-2?? Does that make it better? I love Holtby, but fact is 3GA's every game is too many.. He either figures out how to stop a couple that normally get through, or we're done, period.. And good night!  :raspberry: lol


Expecting your goalie to bail out porous D and a team that fails to show up for the first period is not reasonable.  But you can put it on him if you want.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: zerofox on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:35:16 PM Eastern
ok, so technically the fat lady is now getting warmed up


just to remind people, the Caps aren't eliminated until they lose 4


They lost the series today to be honest. The guys are ready for golf. Trotz is looking forward to getting canned. That's about it. Only thing worth cheering for when it comes to this team is seeing Ovechkin continue to score goals and break records, and seeing some of our other young guys move forward in their careers. There's no team accomplishments that will ever come to this shit team. Just individual records, so might as well cheer for those individual players.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday May 19, 2018, 11:37:57 PM Eastern

They lost the series today to be honest. The guys are ready for golf. Trotz is looking forward to getting canned. That's about it. Only thing worth cheering for when it comes to this team is seeing Ovechkin continue to score goals and break records, and seeing some of our other young guys move forward in their careers. There's no team accomplishments that will ever come to this shit team. Just individual records, so might as well cheer for those individual players.
   Trotz won't be getting canned unless they resign him then can him.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Sunday May 20, 2018, 12:07:29 AM Eastern
   
    Niskanen was at least partially responsible for all 3 goals. He was by far the worst player on the ice for either team. Wtf. He is a veteran and supposed to be our shutdown guy. I don't see it.


Agreed. Niskanen has had plenty of games this year when he made one stupid hockey play after another. Tonight was a bad time for another one.


 For the first goal he half-heartedly stands up at the line and doesn’t bother to take either guy - bad decision.


For the third goal he was in good position but I guess decides the guy is going to drop pass so he doesn’t protect the edge like he should - bad decision.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Mickstix on Sunday May 20, 2018, 08:52:18 AM Eastern


Expecting your goalie to bail out porous D and a team that fails to show up for the first period is not reasonable.  But you can put it on him if you want.


That's the thing, I'm not expecting it, or putting it all on Holtby.. I'm just stating fact. Vasi is "bailing out" his team better then Holtby is and the better goalie wins the series, period.. Certainly isn't all his fault, but if we are to advance, needing to score 4-5 goals isn't gonna end well..  :hearts:
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Sunday May 20, 2018, 10:18:53 AM Eastern

That's the thing, I'm not expecting it, or putting it all on Holtby.. I'm just stating fact. Vasi is "bailing out" his team better then Holtby is and the better goalie wins the series, period.. Certainly isn't all his fault, but if we are to advance, needing to score 4-5 goals isn't gonna end well..  :hearts:
  Vasi isn't really bailing out his team. Remember Vasi single handedly lost the first 2 games if the series. Vasi has made a handful of good saves the past couple games. No different than Holtby. Vasi has also let in more soft goals than Holtby has in this series.
  Vasi has definitely picked up his play from the beginning of the series.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Sunday May 20, 2018, 10:32:32 AM Eastern
   I really wish people would stop saying Vasi is bailing them out. In the first period we had 4 shots. The last 2 shots came from outside the blue line. None if those shots were scoring chances and all were easy saves. Vasi didn't make his first good save until halfway through the game when he stopped Carlson. He made a couple more good saves after that but mist were routine saves. We had him beat several times but hit at least 2 crossbars or missed the net on some great scoring chances.
   Holtby made more big saves in the 1st period than Vasi did the entire game. Vasi didn't stop as many high danger chances.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Mickstix on Sunday May 20, 2018, 10:56:01 AM Eastern

Vasi has made a handful of good saves the past couple games. No different than Holtby.


Well, there's one difference.. Vasi's let in 2, the last 3 games and Holtby's let in 3 and 4.. Why that is, debate away, but the facts are the facts.. 3 and 4 goals will beat 2 nearly every time!  :rofl: 
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Maacoshark on Sunday May 20, 2018, 11:49:16 AM Eastern

Well, there's one difference.. Vasi's let in 2, the last 3 games and Holtby's let in 3 and 4.. Why that is, debate away, but the facts are the facts.. 3 and 4 goals will beat 2 nearly every time!  :rofl:
   And it is your opinion that because a team lost 3-2 that it is because of goaltending. Like I said there is too much emphasis on goaltenders letting in a goal and not enough of what lead to the goal. In that first period the team left Holtby out to dry. The Lightning had one quality chance after another and we had none. Give a team like Tampa that many scoring chances they are going to score. It wouldnt matter who was in net. We were lucky it was only 2 nothing. Pretty close minded to be looking at goaltending only. Goaltending is the one spot we match up against Tampa. Our dcore doesnt match up, especially if our top pairing plays like that.
Title: Re: GDT R3G5 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-19 7:15pm EST NBC, CBC, TVAS
Post by: Mickstix on Sunday May 20, 2018, 06:55:37 PM Eastern

Again, I'm not saying it's Holtby's fault. Or that he's playing bad. He's playing good, but we need "great".. He's the last line of defense, he's the allstar, he's the vezina winner.. To expect the (all year long) crummy defense to be the difference is unrealistic imo.. Expecting the best "goals against" goalie in playoff history to work a little magic, before we get eliminated again, seems like the better bet to me.  :wackysmile: 


Now GOOD NIGHT!!  Wait, it's only 7pm.. Fuck.  :raspberry: