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Title: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes L 5-2
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 11:55:25 AM Eastern
R2G4  Hurricanes lead the series 2-1
May 12 vs Hurricanes at Lenovo Center
Time: 7:00
TV: TBS
Radio: 106.7 FM, Caps Radio 24/7

Washington Capitals(M1) 51-22-9
Carolina Hurricanes(M2) 47-30-5

Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Strome 17 - Wilson(A) 43
McMichael 24 - Dubois 80 - Protas 21
Mangiapane 88 - Eller 20 - Leonard 9
Duhaime 22 - Dowd 26 - Beauvillier 72

Sandin 38 - Carlson(A) 74
Chychrun 6 - Roy 3
Alexeyev 27 - van Riemsdyk 57

Thompson 48
Lindgren 79 - backup

PP1: Ovechkin, Strome, Wilson, Chychrun, Carlson
PP2: Ovechkin, McMichael, Dubois, Mangiapane, Sandin

scratched:
Raddysh 16
Frank 53
Bear 25
McIlrath 52
Gibson 78

injured:
Fehérváry 42 - lower body

LTIR:
Milano 15 - upper body
Backstrom 19 - hip - season
Oshie 77 - back - season

Canes anticipated lines:
Svechnikov 37 - Aho 20 - Jarvis 24
Hall 71 - Roslovic 96 - Stankoven 22
Martinook 48 - Staal 11 - Carrier 28
Robinson 50 - Kotkaniemi 82 - Blake 53

Slavin 74 - Burns 8
Orlov 7 - Chatfield 5
Gostisbehere 4 - Walker 26

Anderson 31
Kochetkov 52 - backup

tonight’s zebras:
Garrett Rank 7, Jean Hebert 15
James Tobias 61, Jonny Murray 95

https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/05/48707/todays-nhl-referees-and-linespersons-5-12-25/ (https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/05/48707/todays-nhl-referees-and-linespersons-5-12-25/)

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/skate-shavings-news-and-notes-from-caps-morning-skate-x3728 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/skate-shavings-news-and-notes-from-caps-morning-skate-x3728)

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-clash-with-canes-in-critical-game-4 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-clash-with-canes-in-critical-game-4)

scoring summary
1st period:
Gostisbehere from Kotkaniemi and Robison at 10:24
2nd period:
Jarvis from Aho and Orlov at 1:05
3rd period:
Chychrun(3) from Dubois at 5:18
Hall from Roslovic and Walker at 8:24
Ovechkin(5) PPG from Strome and Chychrun at 12:14
Walker from Hall at 16:45
Svechnikov ENG from Staal and Martinook at 17:39

Caps lose 5-2
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 12:51:59 PM Eastern
Tonight is a must win
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday May 12, 2025, 02:40:12 PM Eastern
I'm thinking that the Caps may come out kinda pissed off after the end of the last game where that guy hit Mangiopani in the back - that was a real cheap shot and could have easily injured him.  I think it was Walker that did it.


I'm gonna go with the Caps 4 and Canes 1.  Goals by Wilson, Strome, Ovi and Mangiopani!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday May 12, 2025, 03:18:27 PM Eastern
I'm thinking that the Caps may come out kinda pissed off after the end of the last game where that guy hit Mangiopani in the back - that was a real cheap shot and could have easily injured him.  I think it was Walker that did it.


I'm gonna go with the Caps 4 and Canes 1.  Goals by Wilson, Strome, Ovi and Mangiopani!!


I think you might be better off predicting who will score for the Canes.    :raspberry:    Jus' sayin'

I do appreciate your optimism tho..   :koolaid:
   
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday May 12, 2025, 04:54:41 PM Eastern
Let's Go Caps!


If the whole squad would play with Willy's intensity, we'd look a site better.  (might spend 1/2 the game in the box, but it would be better to watch)


was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 05:12:59 PM Eastern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI)
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Monday May 12, 2025, 05:22:45 PM Eastern
Win tonight or it'll be golf by Friday.  If we get down 3-1, we'll throw in the towel rather than go back to Raleigh for another beating. 
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday May 12, 2025, 05:27:14 PM Eastern
Stay positive!  They never shoulda pissed us off!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:06:18 PM Eastern
Willy up to 1, Protas down to 2.
Leonard in, Raddysh out.
Sandin and Roy switch lines.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:09:48 PM Eastern
Need to score goals to win!  :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:15:46 PM Eastern
It appears Carolina has not made any changes to their lines.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:29:22 PM Eastern
 :poop:


 :clown: :O=
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:29:58 PM Eastern
And it begins.  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:32:21 PM Eastern
That'll probably be all they need. The team that averaged 4 goals a game has left the chat.  :-(
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:33:27 PM Eastern
 8-0


Caps get a PP outa that
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:37:38 PM Eastern
pppp
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:44:04 PM Eastern
Chychy is leaking, that’s a 4:00 PP
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:49:55 PM Eastern
We have the absolute worst PP in the playoffs.. Fucking pathetic.  >:(
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:55:55 PM Eastern
When did the ECHL team arrive and put on Caps uniforms?   God, that was pathetic.  This one's going to end about 4-0 or 5-0.  You can feel it coming. 
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:59:01 PM Eastern
Washington is too slow. Against a hard working and fast team like Carolina, you’re going to have issues creating offense consistently.  ☹️
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday May 12, 2025, 07:59:14 PM Eastern
Same as last game - good start.


Sandin should not be playing in the playoffs - just embarrassing himself.


I like how Protas is skating.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:05:08 PM Eastern
Caps down 1-0 after one
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:09:01 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop:




 :(
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:14:06 PM Eastern
Washington looks like they're skating with weighted vests on. Caps definitely skating the speed limit this series.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:27:00 PM Eastern
Might as well put out the BIG line.. Protas- Dubi- Wilson and see if they can generate a goal. Otherwise looks like our scoring may be done for the season.

Our D guys have gone ice cold. Chychrun hasn't really done shit since his contract extension.

And we don't check. No reason to have size if you don't use it.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:37:10 PM Eastern
Leonard has no business being on the ice.  There are 5 other guys that should be out there before him.


Love PLD but he has done nothing and at times he just glides around.


Just need one to get back in it.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:44:52 PM Eastern
The Caps over achieved up to this series, and it finally caught up to them. The Caps haven't found a way to slow down the Canes enough. Basically the Canes have forced the Caps, in this series, to play at the Canes faster pace of play. You can see the team can't score goals at this faster pace. It's partial to the coaching staff and the rest to the roster. The Caps just look too fatigued generate offense.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:46:43 PM Eastern
5 periods w/o a goal.  :rofl:  This team and "playoffs" are a fucking nightmare. Every year..
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:49:29 PM Eastern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pgKbfzXZuA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pgKbfzXZuA)
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 08:50:08 PM Eastern
oh, and the Caps are down 2-0 after two
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Long Suffering 1978 on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:11:07 PM Eastern
Just an embarrassment.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:12:43 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

CHYCHRUN
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:21:09 PM Eastern
Short lived hope. Didn't shut us out though!  :)   
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:21:23 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:30:00 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

OVECHKIN


5 on 3 PPG
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:38:39 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:




game over
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:40:24 PM Eastern
ENG


 :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:41:49 PM Eastern
Oh well, 1 more to go


Thursday 7pm
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:44:02 PM Eastern
🤢🤮😭
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:47:21 PM Eastern
Caps lose 5-2


Hurricanes lead the series 3-1
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:56:53 PM Eastern
As much as I hate to say it I have to give it to The Candy Canes, they're just well coached, getting bounces they need, and the better team this series.


The Caps haven't been able to play their style of hockey and it always look like the Cans have twice as many men on the ice zipping all over the place and The Caps are in slow motion?


I just don't see our guys being able to make the adjustments or the coaching acumen to overcome it?
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday May 12, 2025, 09:57:02 PM Eastern
Not for nothin', but that's 2 in row LT has basically shit himself..  :-\
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday May 12, 2025, 10:01:56 PM Eastern
Not for nothin', but that's 2 in row LT has basically shit himself..  :-\


it could be worse..


[caugh]Hellebuyck[caugh]
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes L 5-2
Post by: waynerivers on Monday May 12, 2025, 10:14:02 PM Eastern
If three quarters of this roster was gone next year, I wouldn't care a bit.  That's probably what's needed to fix this shit show.  I'm not all that impressed with Carberry, either.  He seems to have caught lightning in a bottle the first couple months but when real coaching was needed, he fell way short.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Monday May 12, 2025, 10:15:55 PM Eastern
As much as I hate to say it I have to give it to The Candy Canes, they're just well coached, getting bounces they need, and the better team this series.


The Caps haven't been able to play their style of hockey and it always look like the Cans have twice as many men on the ice zipping all over the place and The Caps are in slow motion?


I just don't see our guys being able to make the adjustments or the coaching acumen to overcome it?


They're better coached and just plain better.  They have a lot more talent top to bottom.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Tuesday May 13, 2025, 12:23:54 AM Eastern

They're better coached and just plain better.  They have a lot more talent top to bottom.


Yep.  And The Caps are so hung up on how the Candy Canes are playing they forgot how to play their own style that got them in the big dance, in the first place. Good goaltending, big bodies winning battles, and a defense that was able to quickly transition and join the offense.


Carolina is a more talented version of The Habs but The Caps have beaten this style before.The coaching has not been good enough. When any team goes through a bad spell or slump, you have to get back to basics and work hard to get out of it. The coaching hasn't done enough to get this roster's resiliency up to par and playing good team fundamentals in this series.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes L 5-2
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Tuesday May 13, 2025, 09:51:49 AM Eastern
Everybody - including the hockey analysts on TV - always say the Caps are a big body "heavy" team.  That is just not true.  Other than Wilson and Duhaime, we have zero big guys that actually hit.  Four of our biggest guys are Carlson, PLD, Protas and Raddysh.  None of them hit at all - not a bit.  Then you have our undersized crowd - McMike, Mangiopani, Sandin, and Leonard that get tossed around on a regular basis.


I'm tired of people saying how hard we are to play against, because we are generally very soft, which is why other teams can just continue to cycle in our zone.  Other than Willy and an occasional Ovi, other teams skate through the ice with no fear.



We have to transition to more size, but size that is actually used.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes L 5-2
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday May 13, 2025, 01:05:45 PM Eastern
Everybody - including the hockey analysts on TV - always say the Caps are a big body "heavy" team.  That is just not true.  Other than Wilson and Duhaime, we have zero big guys that actually hit.  Four of our biggest guys are Carlson, PLD, Protas and Raddysh.  None of them hit at all - not a bit.  Then you have our undersized crowd - McMike, Mangiopani, Sandin, and Leonard that get tossed around on a regular basis.


I'm tired of people saying how hard we are to play against, because we are generally very soft, which is why other teams can just continue to cycle in our zone.  Other than Willy and an occasional Ovi, other teams skate through the ice with no fear.


 We have to transition to more size, but size that is actually used.


Agree 100%.  Being big on paper is meaningless if it doesn't translate to the ice.  We desperately need to get a couple of big, physical and MOBILE defenseman for next year.  Sandin and TVR have to go at a minimum.  Carlson should retire.  We can only hope.  We also need to get some bigger guys up front and guys who can generate some offense from the 3rd and 4th lines.  Right now, those lines are utterly useless.  As long as we're talking forwards, I'd be willing to part with anyone except Wilson, Strome and Protas.  Of course, Ovie will be here.  Any of the rest should be trade or cut material.  Eller, Mangiapane and Raddysh should top the list but none of the others should be guaranteed anything.  I thought McMichael was particularly weak and ineffective in these playoffs.

Agree 100%.  Being big on paper is meaningless if it doesn't translate to the ice.  We desperately need to get a couple of big, physical and MOBILE defenseman for next year.  Sandin and TVR have to go at a minimum.  Carlson should retire.  We can only hope.  We also need to get some bigger guys up front and guys who can generate some offense from the 3rd and 4th lines.  Right now, those lines are utterly useless.  As long as we're talking forwards, I'd be willing to part with anyone except Wilson, Strome and Protas.  Of course, Ovie will be here.  Any of the rest should be trade or cut material.  Eller, Mangiapane and Raddysh should top the list but none of the others should be guaranteed anything.  I thought McMichael was particularly weak and ineffective in these playoffs.
Agree 100%.  Being big on paper is meaningless if it doesn't translate to the ice.  We desperately need to get a couple of big, physical and MOBILE defenseman for next year.  Sandin and TVR have to go at a minimum.  Carlson should retire.  We can only hope.  We also need to get some bigger guys up front and guys who can generate some offense from the 3rd and 4th lines.  Right now, those lines are utterly useless.  As long as we're talking forwards, I'd be willing to part with anyone except Wilson, Strome and Protas.  Of course, Ovie will be here.  Any of the rest should be trade or cut material.  Eller, Mangiapane and Raddysh should top the list but none of the others should be guaranteed anything.  I thought McMichael was particularly weak and ineffective in these playoffs.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes L 5-2
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday May 13, 2025, 01:08:04 PM Eastern
Everybody - including the hockey analysts on TV - always say the Caps are a big body "heavy" team.  That is just not true.  Other than Wilson and Duhaime, we have zero big guys that actually hit.  Four of our biggest guys are Carlson, PLD, Protas and Raddysh.  None of them hit at all - not a bit.  Then you have our undersized crowd - McMike, Mangiopani, Sandin, and Leonard that get tossed around on a regular basis.


I'm tired of people saying how hard we are to play against, because we are generally very soft, which is why other teams can just continue to cycle in our zone.  Other than Willy and an occasional Ovi, other teams skate through the ice with no fear.



We have to transition to more size, but size that is actually used.


Agree 100%.  Being big on paper is meaningless if it doesn't translate to the ice.  We desperately need to get a couple of big, physical and MOBILE defenseman for next year.  Sandin and TVR have to go at a minimum.  Carlson should retire.  We can only hope.  We also need to get some bigger guys up front and guys who can generate some offense from the 3rd and 4th lines.  Right now, those lines are utterly useless.  As long as we're talking forwards, I'd be willing to part with anyone except Wilson, Strome and Protas.  Of course, Ovie will be here.  Any of the rest should be trade or cut material.  Eller, Mangiapane and Raddysh should top the list but none of the others should be guaranteed anything.  I thought McMichael was particularly weak and ineffective in these playoffs.
As.
Title: Re: GDT R2G4 Caps at Hurricanes L 5-2
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday May 13, 2025, 01:44:04 PM Eastern
Everybody - including the hockey analysts on TV - always say the Caps are a big body "heavy" team.  That is just not true.  Other than Wilson and Duhaime, we have zero big guys that actually hit.  Four of our biggest guys are Carlson, PLD, Protas and Raddysh.  None of them hit at all - not a bit.  Then you have our undersized crowd - McMike, Mangiopani, Sandin, and Leonard that get tossed around on a regular basis.


I'm tired of people saying how hard we are to play against, because we are generally very soft, which is why other teams can just continue to cycle in our zone.  Other than Willy and an occasional Ovi, other teams skate through the ice with no fear.



We have to transition to more size, but size that is actually used.




As I was trying to say, I agree 100%.  This team desperately needs a couple of big, physical and mobile defensemen.  Sandin and TVR should go and, hopefully, Carlson will retire soon.  Up front, aside from Wilson, Ovie, Strome and Protas, everybody else should be expendable.  I think McMichael has been particularly weak and ineffective in this series.  On the size issue, it doesn't matter how big you are on paper if it doesn't translate to the ice or if you are too slow, which the Caps emphatically are.