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Title: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 12:56:11 PM Eastern
January 21 vs Oilers at Rogers Place
Time: 9:00
TV: Monumental Sports
Radio: 106.7 FM, Caps radio 24/7

Washington Capitals 31-10-5
PP% 23.5(10th)  PK% 84.2(3rd)  Faceoff% 50.6(16th)
Edmonton Oilers 29-14-3
PP% 24.6(7th)  PK% 75.2(25th)  Faceoff% 52.8(4th)

Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Strome 17 - McMichael 24
Protas 21 - Dubois 80 - Wilson(A) 43
Raddysh 16 - Eller 20 - Frank 53
Duhaime 22 - Dowd 26 - Mangiapane 88

Sandin 38 - Carlson(A) 74
Fehervary 42 - Roy 3
Chychrun 6 - van Riemsdyk 57

Thompson 48
Lindgren 79 - backup

PP1: Ovechkin, Strome, Wilson, Chychrun, Carlson
PP2: Ovechkin, McMichael, Dubois, Mangiapane, Sandin

scratched:
Vrana 13
Alexeyev 27
McIlrath 52

LTIR:
Milano 15 - upper body
Backstrom 19 - hip - season
Oshie 77 - back - season

Oilers anticipated lines:
Skinner 53 - Nugent-Hopkins(A) 93 - Hyman 18
Podkolzin 92 - Draisaitl(A) 29 - Arvidsson 33
Janmark 13 - Henrique 19 - Brown 28
Perry 90 - Philip 48 - Kapanen 42

Ekholm 14 - Bouchard 2
Nurse(A) 25 - Stecher 51
Kulak 27 - Emberson 49

Skinner 74
Pickard 30 - backup

tonight’s zebras:
Trevor Hanson 14, Graedy Hamilton 41
Bevan Mills 53, Kyle Flemington 55

https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/01/47053/todays-nhl-referees-and-linespersons-1-21-25/ (https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/01/47053/todays-nhl-referees-and-linespersons-1-21-25/)

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/skate-shavings-news-and-notes-from-caps-morning-skate-x6414 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/skate-shavings-news-and-notes-from-caps-morning-skate-x6414)

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-open-lengthy-trip-in-edmonton (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-open-lengthy-trip-in-edmonton)

scoring summary
1st period:
Draisaitl from Nurse and Podkolzin at 3:00
Wilson(20) from Protas and Carlson at 9:01
2nd period:
Roy(2) from Dubois and McMichael at 8:14
3rd period:
Dubois(9) from Eller and Thompson at 3:49
Perry from Draisaitl at 4:50

Caps win 3-2
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 06:49:49 PM Eastern
9pm  :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 07:13:32 PM Eastern
9pm  :raised-eyebrow:


 :hopslam:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: BlackIce on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 08:53:01 PM Eastern
Huh??


Where is McDavid in the Edmonton lineup?  Is he out for some reason?




Oh, I just saw where he got suspended.  Shows how much I pay attention - I didn't know.   Well, that's catching a break.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:02:06 PM Eastern
Morning all    :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:05:13 PM Eastern
Evenin'!


Damn, I may have to watch this one from the fart sack. It's frickin 41* down here.  :stupid:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:13:59 PM Eastern
the fish will still bite when the air temp is 41, it’s a little harder when the water is frozen
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:15:55 PM Eastern
the fish will still bite when the air temp is 41, it’s a little harder when the water is frozen


 :lmao:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:16:17 PM Eastern
When the water gets below 55* down here, it might as well be frozen, as far as bass fishing is concerned.




Oh look, no McDavid!  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:16:25 PM Eastern
 :poop:


 :clown: :O=
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:17:41 PM Eastern
Early wake up call.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:26:37 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

WILSON
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:26:41 PM Eastern
the fish will still bite when the air temp is 41, it’s a little harder when the water is frozen


Now I have an image in my head of Micky ice fishing in Florida in his shorts and hat........
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:28:08 PM Eastern
 :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:35:34 PM Eastern
20th goal of the season for Willy. He was on the verge of 30, before covid and a bad coach.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:40:44 PM Eastern

Now I have an image in my head of Micky ice fishing in Florida in his shorts and hat........


Negative! Minumum 60* air temp or the boat stays covered up!  :raspberry:




Was just about to say we didn't look particularly sharp, the Willy buries a DIME from Proi!! Still dont look that sharp though, but playing ok.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:45:35 PM Eastern
Holding our own so far.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:47:44 PM Eastern

Negative! Minumum 60* air temp or the boat stays covered up!  :raspberry:







The image was of an ice hole, drilled in the ice, with you perched on a stool......   in your hat and shorts.    :P
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 09:51:46 PM Eastern


The image was of an ice hole, drilled in the ice, with you perched on a stool......   in your hat and shorts.    :P


That's no image, that's fantasy!  :snicker:


First few years down here, I'd be out in 40's weather in a jacket, shorts and flops. But that blood thins as the years pass. Now Im on the deck smokin' in full sweats, socks, jacket, hood up.. It's pathetic really.  :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:02:53 PM Eastern
It’s 20 here with snow on the ground, I don’t put shoes on to top off the bird feeders


wuss
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:03:25 PM Eastern
1 to 1 after one
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:07:06 PM Eastern
I saw you guys got some snow! I miss it!! (For about 2 days)  :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:10:12 PM Eastern
PP time
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:13:30 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

ROY
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:14:13 PM Eastern
 :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:14:57 PM Eastern
Who?    :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:18:44 PM Eastern
PK time
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:39:23 PM Eastern
 :bs:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:40:40 PM Eastern

nother PK . . most of which will be played in the 3rd



Caps up 2-1 after two.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:40:42 PM Eastern
What was that last call for?
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:43:00 PM Eastern
What was that last call for?


zebras said holding, but I think it was just mild interference, something that won’t get called most of the time
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:48:20 PM Eastern

zebras said holding, but I think it was just mild interference, something that won’t get called most of the time

Ta.    Looked like nothing to me.

  How observant am I at 3.50am.     :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:52:55 PM Eastern
Big kill to start the 3rd!


Lil's up at 4am?? Might as well brew the coffee!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 10:57:58 PM Eastern
Big kill to start the 3rd!


Lil's up at 4am?? Might as well brew the coffee!!  :hearts:

I dont have the energy.    :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:01:26 PM Eastern
I dont have the energy.    :raspberry:


If you had Red Bull in stock you wouldn’t need to brew a coffee


 :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:01:54 PM Eastern
nother PP . .
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:02:13 PM Eastern
McMike had better do something interesting this period.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:02:52 PM Eastern

If you had Red Bull in stock you wouldn’t need to brew a coffee


 :raspberry:


Don't like it.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:03:45 PM Eastern
good possession, no threat
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:04:03 PM Eastern
We just don't like stepping on throats. Or maybe we do!!  :wackysmile:


Dubi!!
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:04:24 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

DUBOIS
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:04:39 PM Eastern
 :banana: :banana: :banana:

Like that.    ;)
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:06:39 PM Eastern
 :O= :O=


 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:07:17 PM Eastern
Oops. Accidentally stepped on their throat I guess.  :clown: :poop:



Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:07:53 PM Eastern
We have 12 shots???     :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:08:39 PM Eastern
nother PP . . .
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:11:03 PM Eastern
Nother lame PP leads to full momentum shift.  :(
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:12:46 PM Eastern
We have 12 shots???     :raised-eyebrow:


when you learn what doesn’t count as a shot on goal, that statistic means far less
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:15:56 PM Eastern

when you learn what doesn’t count as a shot on goal, that statistic means far less


Might be quicker and easier for someone to explain what does first.   
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:20:42 PM Eastern

Might be quicker and easier for someone to explain what does first.   


For at least 10 years now, most of the high danger “shots” are caused by a player shooting towards the goal hoping for a deflection, those don’t count as a shot on goal. Hitting the goal pipe doesn’t count either, even though a fraction of an inch is the difference between a goal and a rebound.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:21:22 PM Eastern
Our guys looking a little gassed.   
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:28:45 PM Eastern
Matchstick time.     :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:31:10 PM Eastern
nother PK . . .
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:31:33 PM Eastern
DYLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :stupid:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:33:40 PM Eastern
empty net
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:34:30 PM Eastern
 :phew:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:34:34 PM Eastern
CAPS WIN

3-2
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:36:28 PM Eastern
Damn, nice kill to end the game!! Figured Carlson was gonna cost us a point! Nice way to start the west coast swing!!


Thursday at 10pm.    :raised-eyebrow:



Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:36:31 PM Eastern
held on by our fingrnails at the end there.   


sweet dreams peeps.    :hearts:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 21, 2025, 11:37:56 PM Eastern
next two games are at 10pm local
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: BlackIce on Wednesday January 22, 2025, 05:07:20 AM Eastern
next two games are at 10pm local
   




Logan Thompson wasn't mentioned once by anyone in this thread, but from what I could see, he was the #1 star of the game.  The Oilers are the one team in the league who has been slightly better than us over the past couple of months, and it showed, even without McDavid in the lineup.


I think at this point the top two offensive talents for the Caps are ...... Protas and Wilson.  This was not a game where Ovechkin would be a factor -- too much speed.  He really hasn't been the same player since the injury, despite the early goals coming back.  That isn't meant as a criticism.  He is 39, got out of the game for 6 weeks, got out of prime playing shape, and has to work back and figure it out again.  Notice his minutes are down.  Carbery is being guardedly positive when a question about Ovie comes up, but the fact of the matter is that Ovie is now just another guy on the team unless/until he pulls himself up by his bootstraps again, and Carbery will put the guys on the ice, especially down the stretch in tight games, who he thinks give him the best chance to win.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Wednesday January 22, 2025, 11:26:47 AM Eastern
BlackIce - I was just about to post the same comment about Ovi.  I'm hoping that he will get back to a higher level with a little more time and maybe that layoff for the 4 Nations thing will help him a lot.  I am a bit concerned though about the amount of shanked shots and he seems to be having a hard time with timing.  Maybe that will improve as well with more time.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday January 22, 2025, 12:08:49 PM Eastern
   




Logan Thompson wasn't mentioned once by anyone in this thread, but from what I could see, he was the #1 star of the game.  The Oilers are the one team in the league who has been slightly better than us over the past couple of months, and it showed, even without McDavid in the lineup.


I think at this point the top two offensive talents for the Caps are ...... Protas and Wilson.  This was not a game where Ovechkin would be a factor -- too much speed.  He really hasn't been the same player since the injury, despite the early goals coming back.  That isn't meant as a criticism.  He is 39, got out of the game for 6 weeks, got out of prime playing shape, and has to work back and figure it out again.  Notice his minutes are down.  Carbery is being guardedly positive when a question about Ovie comes up, but the fact of the matter is that Ovie is now just another guy on the team unless/until he pulls himself up by his bootstraps again, and Carbery will put the guys on the ice, especially down the stretch in tight games, who he thinks give him the best chance to win.


I was too tired to post after the game and I try not to jinx the goalie during game time.  I thought ThomCat played great last night.  A little straggley at times and I thought the second goal was a little soft, but I think he's definitely secured the number 1 spot, imho.

I'm slightly concerned about McMike.  The experiment to put him on the first line didn't work.   What to try next, if anything?
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: waynerivers on Wednesday January 22, 2025, 05:47:57 PM Eastern
This getting outshot 2-1 every game is going to come back and bite them. 5 on 5 play has to be MUCH better.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday January 22, 2025, 06:29:16 PM Eastern
This getting outshot 2-1 every game is going to come back and bite them. 5 on 5 play has to be MUCH better.


I have noticed that we seem to be more inclined towards goals from deflections lately, rather than direct shots on goal.   Apparantly these do not count as SOG's.   Fairy Nuff.   I'm a bit  stumped at why shots on posts don't count though.   :huh:
 
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday January 22, 2025, 07:43:49 PM Eastern

I'm a bit  stumped at why shots on posts don't count though.   :huh:
 


Because "technically" shots on goal are supposed to be shots that would (go in) score, if not for the goalie saving them. If it hits the post, it's not going in.


It is kinda a silly stat though. If the goalie blocks it, it's a SOG. If the defender does, it's not. But most nights when we bitch about low shots on goal, it's not because they're getting blocked. It's because we're playing most of the minutes in our own end.
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday January 23, 2025, 07:31:54 AM Eastern
So, if a shot hits the post and bounces in, even though a goal is scored, it's still not counted as a shot on goal?   :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: BlackIce on Thursday January 23, 2025, 08:14:25 AM Eastern
So, if a shot hits the post and bounces in, even though a goal is scored, it's still not counted as a shot on goal?   :raised-eyebrow:
 


No, the fact that a shot goes in makes it a shot on goal.  The problem for stats counters would be, how much of a miss does a shot have to be before it's not counted as a shot?  To the NHL, an unimpeded shot that hits a post and stays out is not a shot on goal, any more than a shot that misses the goal by a foot -- or two -- or five ......   And conversely, any shot that goes in is a shot on goal, whether it goes into the dead center of the net or nicks/hits a post on the way in.


I guess the confusing part might be, what about a shot that hits the post, ricochets into the goalie out front, and then bounces into the net?  Is that a shot on goal?  I THINK the ruling is that ANY play of the puck by the scoring team that ends up as a goal is counted as a shot on goal.  My one question would be, what about the situation earlier where Lindgren (I think) directly played the puck into his own net?  That may count as not being a shot on goal -- but maybe even THAT is credited.  Isn't the goal credited to the last player on the scoring team who touched the puck?
Title: Re: GDT #47 Caps at Oilers W 3-2
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday January 23, 2025, 11:20:51 AM Eastern
Ta.
I believe you're right about the last player on the scoring team getting the credit.