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Title: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 02:33:22 PM Eastern
January 6 vs Sabres at KeyBank Center
Time: 7:00
TV: Monumental Sports, NHL Network
Radio: 106.7 FM, Caps Radio 24/7

Washington Capitals 26-10-2
PP% 23.5(11th)  PK% 84.2(4th)  Faceoff% 50.3(19th)
Buffalo Sabres 14-24-4
PP% 17.9(23rd)  PK% 78.2(20th)  Faceoff% 48.4(26th)

Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Strome 17 - Raddysh 16
Protas 21 - Dubois 80 - Wilson(A) 43
Eller 20 - McMichael 24 - Vrana 13
Duhaime 22 - Dowd 26 - Mangiapane 88

Sandin 38 - Carlson(A) 74
Chychrun 6 - Roy 3
Fehervary 42 - van Riemsdyk 57

Lindgren 79
Thompson 48 - backup

PP1: Ovechkin, Strome, Wilson, Chychrun, Carlson
PP2: Ovechkin, McMichael, Dubois, Mangiapane, Sandin

scratched:
Miroshnichenko 63
Alexeyev 27
McIlrath 52

LTIR:
Milano 15 - upper body
Backstrom 19 - hip - season
Oshie 77 - lower back - season

Sabres anticipated lines:
Zucker 17 - Cozens(A) 24 - Thompson 72
Peterka 77 - McLeod 71 - Tuch(A) 89
Benson 9 - Kulich 20 - Krebs 19
Quinn 22 - Lafferty 81 - Aubé-Kubel 96

Dahlin(C) 26 - Byram 4
Power 25 - Clifton 75
Samuelsson 23 - Jokiharju 10

Luukkonen 1
Reimer 47 - backup

tonight’s zebras:
Jean Hebert 15, Brandon Blandina 39
James Tobias 61, Jonathan Deschamps 80

https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/01/46833/todays-nhl-referees-and-linespersons-1-6-25/ (https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/01/46833/todays-nhl-referees-and-linespersons-1-6-25/)

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-evade-snow-in-buffalo (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-evade-snow-in-buffalo)

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/skate-shavings-news-and-notes-from-caps-morning-skate-x4707 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/skate-shavings-news-and-notes-from-caps-morning-skate-x4707)

scoring summary
1st period:
Peterka from Tuch and McLeod at 4:42
Wilson(17) PPG from Chychrun and Strome at 6:10
2nd period:
Tuch unassisted at 1:07
Wilson(18) from Protas and Carlson at 11:29
Thompson PPG from Dahlin and Peterka at 11:49
3rd period:
Protas(18) from Carlson and Dubois at 15:47
OT:
no goals
SO:
Thompson  ❎    Dubois   ✅
Quinn        ❎     Strome  ❎
Tuch          ✅     Carlson  ❎
Peterka      ✅    Chychrun ❎

Caps lose 4-3
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: BlackIce on Monday January 06, 2025, 06:30:55 PM Eastern
Rather ironic that the Caps have to travel out of town to Buffalo of all places to avoid the snow.


It's telling how much of a problem the 3rd line has been this season that, at least temporarily, Carbery feels the need to juggle all 4 lines to try to get L3 going.





Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 06:50:50 PM Eastern
Another fucking NHLnet game for out of towners.  ::) :O=  Seems the powers that be have gotten better at killing streams. Last time I had to steal it was a major pia..  :-(
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:04:38 PM Eastern
thanks Mick
 :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:10:21 PM Eastern
You don't get monumental local?  8-0 So far so good on the stream.  :wackysmile:

Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:10:49 PM Eastern
Morning.    :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:11:29 PM Eastern
PK time
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:12:17 PM Eastern
Ref told his kid he'd be on tv tonight..  :raspberry:  Chincy ass penalty.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:12:18 PM Eastern
You don't get monumental local?  8-0 So far so good on the stream.  :wackysmile:


what ever you had the other day you gave to Riches sister..  and now I have it
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:16:39 PM Eastern
 :poop:


 :clown: :O=
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:17:39 PM Eastern
 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:19:07 PM Eastern
PP time
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:19:30 PM Eastern

what ever you had the other day you gave to Riches sister..  and now I have it
oh.  :snicker:


It's not too terrible if it's the same! Feel better bro!!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:19:58 PM Eastern
Stop watching the damn puck and knock some guys on their backsides.  We need somebody on the backline who can hit somebody.  Other than Fehervary occasionally nobody does except McIlrath and he's in the press box.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:20:51 PM Eastern
PP GOOOAAALLLL

WILSON
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:21:14 PM Eastern
 :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:21:54 PM Eastern
Great back and forth exchange.  This game is off to an exciting start!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:48:34 PM Eastern
1 to 1 after one

too many whistles in the 1st
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 07:57:26 PM Eastern
Ho hum 1st. Looks like were talking them lightly, unfortunately.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:08:44 PM Eastern
 :O= :O=


 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:09:48 PM Eastern
That was too easy for them.   >:(
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:11:06 PM Eastern
Bloody  hail The Caps are perpetually playing catch up. ::)
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:20:15 PM Eastern
Our guys don't mind sneaking up from behind..    ;)
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:22:01 PM Eastern
Carbs needs to reset these lines.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:27:43 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

WILSON
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:28:11 PM Eastern
Wilson is like butter baby!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:28:11 PM Eastern
 :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:32:21 PM Eastern
nother PK . .
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:33:37 PM Eastern
 :O= :O= :O=


 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:34:36 PM Eastern
And Caps are down again. :'(
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:46:06 PM Eastern
Caps are skating like they thought this was going to be a cake walk
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:46:40 PM Eastern
Is it just me, or has this all been a bit manic?
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:50:07 PM Eastern
Caps down 3-2 after two
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:50:25 PM Eastern
Hate to give up on em' this soon, but games starting to get that  :clown: :poop:  smell to it.


Certainly they'll get serious at some point?  :-\
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 08:58:53 PM Eastern
You'd think.   A little less fannying around in their zone would help.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:07:32 PM Eastern
nother PP . .
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:07:36 PM Eastern
Caps gonna need to do something to keep me awake this period.    :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:14:58 PM Eastern
nother PK . . .


 >:(
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:31:24 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

PROTAS
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:31:37 PM Eastern
 :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:38:59 PM Eastern
I think I'd be okay to come out of this with a point, but I'm too tired for any extras.   :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:40:51 PM Eastern
A point it is.   I hope we get back to proper lines next game.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:45:12 PM Eastern
I thought that fella was gonnna do a triple salko at some point there.    :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:49:22 PM Eastern
Ovi not been great all night.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:50:57 PM Eastern
nother phukin shootout
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:51:46 PM Eastern
Surprised they got 1, shocked if they get 2.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:52:22 PM Eastern
I really need this to be over.   Past caring which way.    :-|
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:54:17 PM Eastern
Dubois!!!🤑
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:56:46 PM Eastern
Good grief.   Put Willy out there already!    ::)
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:57:05 PM Eastern
Carlson on the shootout  :raised-eyebrow:



Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:57:20 PM Eastern
Caps lose 4-3
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:57:57 PM Eastern
Night all.    :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday January 06, 2025, 09:58:51 PM Eastern
Coach just saying fuck it, we lose, if we head to shootouts?


As expected anyway.. Stole a point off the worst team in the east!! Yay!! :-\


Wed. 7:30
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: Rey Capalpatine on Monday January 06, 2025, 10:01:48 PM Eastern
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Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: waynerivers on Monday January 06, 2025, 10:40:18 PM Eastern
You can't win playing ONE period of hockey.  Now 1-5 in last 6 road games.  Carberry clueless on the shootout as usual.  Wilson? Protas?  McMike?  Mangiapane?  Nope.  Dubois and Strome who have no moves whatever.  This team hasn't played that well for weeks now and somebody has to put their foot down. 
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 09:33:42 AM Eastern
I think Carbs sometimes puts guys in the shootout when he is trying to get them going and give them some confidence - or reward them for playing a good game.  Why not try Chychrun who has a wicked wrist shot from 10 feet?  I would also go with Eller who can stick handle with the best of them.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 10:32:22 AM Eastern
I think Carbs sometimes puts guys in the shootout when he is trying to get them going and give them some confidence - or reward them for playing a good game.  Why not try Chychrun who has a wicked wrist shot from 10 feet?  I would also go with Eller who can stick handle with the best of them.


He used Chychrun last night.  You have to play the hot hands.  Protas and Wilson are scoring so they should be the first guys up.  McMike and Mangiapane have good hands and moves.  The idea is to win, not make somebody feel good.  I'd never use Ovie as he's proven to be pretty hopeless in those situations.


Overall, the team is not playing that well.  They are only 9-8 since 11/21.  That's over six weeks ago.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: BlackIce on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 11:36:26 AM Eastern

He used Chychrun last night.  You have to play the hot hands.  Protas and Wilson are scoring so they should be the first guys up.  McMike and Mangiapane have good hands and moves.  The idea is to win, not make somebody feel good.  I'd never use Ovie as he's proven to be pretty hopeless in those situations.


Overall, the team is not playing that well.  They are only 9-8 since 11/21.  That's over six weeks ago.


And in fact, in his postgame pressers Carbery is saying that, in precisely those words.  That is one reason why he is tweaking the lines, in order to get the team out of its current malaise.  It is interesting to me not only THAT Carbery is critiquing the teams' performance so bluntly, but also, HOW he is doing it.  He just says it sort of matter-of-factly, like it's something to be expected at times during a long season, he isn't casting blame, he's just stating the obvious, with the implication that the team is doing what it needs to do to try to work things out.  I think it's clear that he has buy-in from both the team and management to do this.  He isn't seen as a bad-mouther, just telling it like it is. 
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: BlackIce on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 11:37:21 AM Eastern

And in fact, in his postgame pressers Carbery is saying that, in precisely those words.  That is one reason why he is tweaking the lines, in order to get the team out of its current malaise.  It is interesting to me not only THAT Carbery is critiquing the teams' performance so bluntly, but also, HOW he is doing it.  He just says it sort of matter-of-factly, like it's something to be expected at times during a long season, he isn't casting blame, he's just stating the obvious, with the implication that the team is doing what it needs to do to try to work things out.  I think it's clear that he has buy-in from both the team and management to do this.  He isn't seen as a bad-mouther, just telling it like it is.  This is the behavior of a coach who has quite a lot of cred built up, and he knows it.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 12:59:00 PM Eastern
pffffffff.  Honestly i felt like we'd tie it in the 3rd, and suffer a loss in OT...Our shootout is...well...BAD

I dont' have a problem with PLC or Strome in SO, but Carlson and Chychrun would not be in my top 5

Strome doesn't show a lot of moves, but he's been pretty effective (prior to the last 2) in SO if i recall correctly.
I'd definitely have McMike in the top 3, and Protus is just been so hot I'm giving him a nod also.  Someone else said Mangi - which I agree, he's got more skills than he gets to use on the 3rd line.
You want skill guys with good hands in the SO.  Not saying Carly and Chicklets don't have skills, but not real stick handling, sniping skills.



Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 01:06:25 PM Eastern
Overall, the team is not playing that well.  They are only 9-8 since 11/21.  That's over six weeks ago.


Yep.  Everything was clicking and ridiculous shot percentages got us rolling early on, but we all knew it could not last forever.  The Caps are a very good team, but when NOT everything is going just right, it shows they are not the juggernaut their record would indicate they are.  They can't come from behind as often as they do and continue to be highly successful. 
I kinda figured we'd go thru an extended marginal 50/50 record for a good stretch at some point to bring us back to earth.  Hope I'm wrong about that.  Hoping Carbs can get them going again.  I will say then never really quit, they do stay in the game, and have come back many a time, but it would certainly be better to NOT be chasing the game all the time...especially against mediocre teams.
Although, I don't know why Buffalo is so mediocre, they looked decent yesterday, have some legit stars, and the goalie is a mammoth of a netminder
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps at Sabres SOL 4-3
Post by: BlackIce on Tuesday January 07, 2025, 04:07:20 PM Eastern
Rich, I think what you're saying probably goes for any team in the NHL right now.  I don't think there are any clearcut juggernauts right now. 


I think generally the Caps are NOT a standout stick handling/deking team.  That isn't what their game is.  They score goals basically in one of three ways (which is true to a greater or lesser degree for most teams):  deflections, screens, and snipes.  They have shown real deflection skill this season up and down the lineup I think.  Their screening capability, with Wilson, to a lesser extent Ovie, and last and most beastly, Protas, is top notch.  And they DO have their share of snipers.  But only the sniping is a potential asset in the shootout, and you don't see it used all that often.  I'm wondering if more of the Caps in the shootout ought to skate in to 4 meters, pick a spot, and let it fly.