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Title: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 05:29:38 PM Eastern
December 4 vs Coyotes at Mullett Arena
Time: 9:00
TV: Monumental Soorts
Radio: 106.7 FM, Caps Radio 24/7

Washington Capitals 12-7-2
PP% 8.3(32nd)  PK% 80.6(14th)  Faceoff% 46(29th)
Arizona Coyotes 12-9-2
PP% 25.6(6th)  PK% 80.3(15th)  Faceoff% 47.6(24th)

Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Strome 17 - Wilson 43
Protas 21 - McMichael 24 - Mantha 39
Milano 15 - Lapierre 29 - Phillips 45
Malenstyn 47 - Dowd 26 - Aubé-Kubel 96

Fehervary 42 - Carlson(A) 74
Sandin 38 - van Riemsdyk 57
Edmundson 6 - Jensen 3

Kuemper 35

PP1: Ovechkin, McMichael, Wilson, Mantha, Carlson
PP2: Ovechkin, Strome, Lapierre, Phillips, Sandin

scratched:
Lindgren 79 - backup
Kuznetsov 92
Alexeyev 27
Johansen 46

IR:
Oshie 77 - upper body

LTIR:
Pacioretty 67 - achilles
Backstrom 19 - hip - season

Coyotes anticipate lines:
Keller 9 - Cooley 92 - Schmaltz 8
Maccelli 63 - Bjugstad 17 - Crouse 67
Carcone 53 - Kerfoot 15 - Zucker 16
Kelemen 21 - O’Brien 38 - Valimaki 4

Moser 90 - Durzi 50
Dumba 24 - Brown 3
Stecher 51 - Kesserling 5

Ingram 39
Vejmelka 70 - backup

tonight’s zebras:
Kyle Rehman 10, Chris Lee 28
Kiel Murchison 79, Travis Toomey 90

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-clash-with-coyotes (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-clash-with-coyotes)

scoring summary
1st period:
Cooley PPG from Keller and Durzi at 8:46
Carcone from Brown and Zucker at 10:02
Schmaltz PPG from Keller and Kerfoot at 14:15
Schmaltz from Keller and Kesserling at 17:13
Zucker from Kerfoot at 18:39
2nd period:
Bjugstad from Kerfoot and Moser at 16:54
3rd period:
no goals

Caps lose 6-0
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 05:32:26 PM Eastern
Just as last game, OV has 1499 career points.


Kuzy is a healthy scratch, tonight would have been his 700th game.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday December 04, 2023, 06:09:24 PM Eastern
Well finally we might have a coach that will bench top line players if they aren't performing and just skate around!  They will probably say it was because of the stupid penalty he took, but it is just plain lackadaisical play.  I've said for a long time that Kuzy needed a tough coach and that he could be a 40 goal scorer if he was motivated.  It may be too late now, but at least he is sending a message to the rest of the team!!
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:00:18 PM Eastern
It seems quite a few people took the day off. I couldn’t get accurate line info until a few minutes ago.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:00:45 PM Eastern
Carbs must be walking a tightrope. He's healthy scratched Mantha and now Kuzy. But he still putting Kuemper back in net after another shaky start/loss. Chucky is healthy enough to back up, he should of got the net, imo.


Hope they show up tonight!
 
Ovi's gotta score another goal at some point this season, no?  :cross:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:07:40 PM Eastern
Morning chaps.    :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:15:55 PM Eastern
No call on that high stick to Willy's ear.     
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:18:30 PM Eastern
PP 1 looked a lot better tonight…
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:19:34 PM Eastern
Carbs must be walking a tightrope. He's healthy scratched Mantha and now Kuzy. But he still putting Kuemper back in net after another shaky start/loss. Chucky is healthy enough to back up, he should of got the net, imo.

Hope they show up tonight! 
Ovi's gotta score another goal at some point this season, no?  :cross:


I dont think Kuemper was shakey...he's just not a spectacular type goalie.  He's mostly solid, but he aint standing on his head.

Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: capsfanpdx on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:20:46 PM Eastern
DK supports a good D well, a mediocre one, not so much
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:22:58 PM Eastern
 :O=

 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:23:58 PM Eastern
Same PP look as us. Except their Ovi spot didn't mind leaving the office.  :clown:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:25:29 PM Eastern
 :clown: :clown:

 :poop: :O=
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:26:15 PM Eastern
2 shots on goal ..
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:26:49 PM Eastern
A Special K special!    ::)
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:27:09 PM Eastern
"Shot surprised Kuemper" lol   :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:28:16 PM Eastern

I dont think Kuemper was shakey...he's just not a spectacular type goalie.  He's mostly solid, but he aint standing on his head.

He's slow,, especially on his lateral movement and doesn't seem to be able to see or follow the puck.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:34:00 PM Eastern
the fuck


 :poop: :poop: :poop:


Kuemper out, Lindgren in
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:35:20 PM Eastern
GOOD
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:39:41 PM Eastern
This better not burn Charlie for Wednesday.  :O=
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:40:33 PM Eastern

I dont think Kuemper was shakey...he's just not a spectacular type goalie.  He's mostly solid, but he aint standing on his head.


Only time Kuemper isn't shaky is when we're down multiple goals.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:41:41 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:


 ::)
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:43:26 PM Eastern

 :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :clown:

Got 40 minutes to get Ovi a goal.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:43:31 PM Eastern
cheesus man


 :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:47:21 PM Eastern
 :wtf:
 :wtf:
 :wtf:
 :wtf:
 :wtf:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:48:04 PM Eastern
I have no words.    :-|
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:54:06 PM Eastern
Might be the worst period I've ever seen em' play.. Began following in 1975.  :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 09:59:05 PM Eastern
We spent most of that period in their end but most of that was along the boards.


Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:01:34 PM Eastern
I wanna go to bed, but I can't look away.  :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:05:56 PM Eastern
I wanna go to bed, but I can't look away.  :rofl:


 :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:20:39 PM Eastern
This is making me what to drink.. more than normal
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:21:58 PM Eastern
Another stunning PPPP.  Did I say stunning?  I meant stunned.    :P
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:26:39 PM Eastern
You know it's bad when even the refs feel sorry for us.   
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:32:27 PM Eastern
We're trash.  :rofl:  We lack talent..  :'(
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:35:50 PM Eastern
YAY!  Another PP     :-X
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:36:19 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:37:32 PM Eastern
 :lmao:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:37:32 PM Eastern
I knew if we had enough PP's we could give up the shorty!  :P
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:44:17 PM Eastern
Our guys look done.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:52:48 PM Eastern
So glad I had that nap earlier. 
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 10:54:53 PM Eastern
Onto more important stuff.. When ya go to Home Depot, how many bags of topsoil do ya need to get before ya ask them to get it for ya?  :huh: :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:00:52 PM Eastern
Depends on how far away the golf course is.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:05:05 PM Eastern
It's about 50 yards behind the house, but I'll just be carrying it to the beds in the yard.  :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:06:10 PM Eastern
Are we goiing to start the "shutout" conersation yet?
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:07:10 PM Eastern
"Coulda been a goal for Dowd if it only woulda coulda shoulda.." lol  Story of our year.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:09:35 PM Eastern

Are we goiing to start the "shutout" conersation yet?

Who's got a shutout? Ingram? Ingram shutting us out? Shutout? Wonder how many shutouts Ingram has?
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:11:09 PM Eastern
Who's got a shutout? Ingram? Ingram shutting us out? Shutout? Wonder how many shutouts Ingram has?

He has 2
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:11:44 PM Eastern
Not counting this game.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:12:55 PM Eastern
Did I call this a game?

You could whitewash your whole house with this debacle Micky.    :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:17:54 PM Eastern
Could whitewash the whole neighborhood with this mess.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:18:07 PM Eastern
Add some class to this shit show, why don't you AK.   Ugh.    >:(
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:21:52 PM Eastern
Anyone reads the thread later, Im serious about the topsoil. :raised-eyebrow:   :rofl:


Think I'll catch the rest of this classic from the sack..


Wednesday Thursday 8pm. Lil
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:23:52 PM Eastern
Ta.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:24:24 PM Eastern
Ovi's never gonna score again.

Ever. :'(
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:35:02 PM Eastern
Facepalm.   
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:37:34 PM Eastern
SHAMEFULL
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Monday December 04, 2023, 11:42:21 PM Eastern
That's all folks.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday December 05, 2023, 11:05:23 AM Eastern
Like I said before the game...Kuemper isnt shakey....  He's just blind  8)
Lindy was hardly better.  they had like 5 goals on 8 shots   WOW.
I think the Caps were mentally on the plane home before the game started. WTF
Outscored 10-1 in last two games.
Good news is they come home to two easy home games next; Dallas and Rangers

Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday December 05, 2023, 11:18:17 AM Eastern
This team is ready to implode.  Not sure how they beat LA & Anaheim.   Ovie may not reach double digits for the season.  This is what happens when you fail to realize that you are deep into rebuild mode.  They should have kept the guys together to try for back to back cups but as soon as that failed, the rebuild needed to start in earnest.  Here we are 5 1/2 years later and they've barely begun.  Dim days ahead.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday December 05, 2023, 11:21:01 AM Eastern
Ovi's never gonna score again.

Ever. :'(


He may need to retire even before the season ends.  Just fake an injury and then retire during the offseason.  #2 alltime in goals is nothing to sneeze at and he did it in a much less scoring friendly era.  To keep going like this indefinitely is just embarrassing.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday December 05, 2023, 11:39:26 AM Eastern
We don't have any talent. It's all over the hill, injured or scratched. We don't have a single "top line" talent on the team. Let that sink in. Yet, we pay out 40 million in salary to Ovi, Nicky, Oshie, Carlson, Kuzy. On second thought, don't let it sink in. It's fucking depressing.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday December 05, 2023, 12:13:30 PM Eastern

He may need to retire even before the season ends.  Just fake an injury and then retire during the offseason.  #2 alltime in goals is nothing to sneeze at and he did it in a much less scoring friendly era.  To keep going like this indefinitely is just embarrassing.


I'm pretty sure everybody knows how much I adore Ovi.    :hearts:

I'm hoping against hope that he's just in a funk and will snap out of it.  If not, I too would rather he cashed his chips in.
Watching him at the moment is truly heartbreaking.   :'(
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: capsfanpdx on Tuesday December 05, 2023, 07:58:55 PM Eastern
We don't have any talent. It's all over the hill, injured or scratched. We don't have a single "top line" talent on the team. Let that sink in. Yet, we pay out 40 million in salary to Ovi, Nicky, Oshie, Carlson, Kuzy. On second thought, don't let it sink in. It's fucking depressing.


....but we have been winning.   So, there is good there.  The next two years the contract s will clear up and we will be buffalo or Detroit for a couple of years
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Wednesday December 06, 2023, 12:29:07 PM Eastern
Ovi isn't quite done.  He certainly will never score 50 goals again, but he's getting scoring chances.  He is definitely older and slower, but speed hasn't been his game for years.  As someone pointed out earlier, he IS getting scoring chances.  His shot doesn't look like he's lost it.  He is slower on back check, but he's be a coaster for long time in both O-zone and D-zone.

Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Wednesday December 06, 2023, 12:49:57 PM Eastern
We don't have any talent. It's all over the hill, injured or scratched. We don't have a single "top line" talent on the team. Let that sink in. Yet, we pay out 40 million in salary to Ovi, Nicky, Oshie, Carlson, Kuzy. On second thought, don't let it sink in. It's fucking depressing.
Yes the contracts are a drag, but I'm not sure I'd say we don't have any talent.  I'm curious about Hershey...they've been the best franchise in AHL history, and have won ALOT.  Now, they are having their best season ever (so far).
I don't follow the younger squads much, but is their success due to the fact they we have a lot of talent in the pipeline, or that we have a bunch of AHL talent that will never become great NHL talent?  I would hope that years of AHL success would lend us to actually get some of the success as those younger guys move up.
Hoping Mirshnichenko blossoms into something great.  I think Iorio has showed some real promise also.
And I'd say Tom Wilson is legit top level talent.  His skills don't always produce goals, but he is probably the best true power forward left in the league.  NHL appears to hate on him, but I'd bed every single NHL club would love to have him on their squad.

The team definitely chose to ride the Ovi train to the end, and unfortunately, some of those wheels are just falling off (backy, oshie, etc).  We should have bit the bullet and started the rebuild, but we didn't.  We are now reeping what we sowed.
Face it....we are mediocre.  We will not have playoff success with this team.  Is that a surprise to anyone? ..prolly not.  It's not as bad as the Arizona game makes it look, but then It ain't near as good as the Kings game made it look either.


Go Caps






Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday December 06, 2023, 05:57:51 PM Eastern
I think Miro and possibly Frank are the only "skill" guys we have in the pipeline. Not even sure about Frank, he's just fast as fuck. We don't draft high enough to get legit top 6r's. err 3r's.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Thursday December 07, 2023, 09:35:24 AM Eastern
Rich, I agree that we are a mediocre team that has a AHL farm team that may yield a few bottom 6 guys.  The problem is going to be that we won't get top 10 picks, except last year, for a while and will be stuck in the dreaded middle - good enough to stay close enough to making the playoffs, but bad enough to not have a chance to compete for a Cup.


Our best hope is that our two last 1st round picks. Miro and Leonard, turn out to be really, really good and that a few other recent picks overachieve and give us a new young group of 5 or 6 guys that we can build around.   Ideally, we would have tanked this year and gotten a top 10 pick, but that is looking doubtful.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 07, 2023, 10:23:58 AM Eastern
...  Ideally, we would have tanked this year and gotten a top 10 pick, but that is looking doubtful.
Oh not to worry...There's still plenty of time... :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 07, 2023, 10:24:09 AM Eastern
I think we have a chance to at least compete, if we can use Nicky's salary to lure in a legit top center. Was kinda hoping Oshie would "decide to step away" as well, but we'll see how that turns out. Nicky isn't coming back, it's just a shame they have to pretend he might, so he can keep getting paid. Leonsis just needs to suck it up and spend that extra $9m.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Thursday December 07, 2023, 11:14:27 AM Eastern
There isn’t an extra $9M though. Half of it was already used when guys came off IR, and they still need $2M for Pacs. I’d rather not see the team max out the payroll again, it gave them damn near zero options for the past 6 years.
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 07, 2023, 12:46:30 PM Eastern
Who came off IR since Nicky retired?  :huh:
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Thursday December 07, 2023, 01:04:54 PM Eastern
Edmundson @ $1.75M. The season started with Pacs and Edmundson on IR. The team needed about $4M to activate them. With a couple other moves, the team only has about $4-$4.5M cap space because Backy stepped down. If Backy didn’t step down the team was going to have cut someone, probably making about $5.7M…
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: alta on Thursday December 07, 2023, 01:56:09 PM Eastern
According to this, there is currently $7.25M in cap space. When Pacs comes back it will be $5.25. Management has breathing room for the first time in what seems like 10 years.


https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals#google_vignette (https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/capitals#google_vignette)
Title: Re: GDT #22 Caps at Coyotes @ 9pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 07, 2023, 04:27:12 PM Eastern
Paci.. Esssh. I can hardly wait to see what that brings us. He and Oshie should race to see who sits. (I have no clue how good/bad he'll be but a 35 year old with double achillies repair sounds like another forward with broken wheels.) Gonna be like last year when Oshie, Nicky and Willy all got "healthy" at the same time. That was the start of the fall through the rankings. Though, we've already started to look wobbly. We shall see....