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Title: GDT #18 Caps at Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 04:20:17 PM Eastern
November 27 vs Sharks at SAP Center
Time: 10:30
TV: Monumental Sports 1/2
Radio: 106.7 FM, Capitals Radio 24/7


Washington Capitals 10-5-2
 PP% 6(32nd)  PK% 78.9(17th)  Faceoff% 45.5(30th)
San Jose Sharks 4-15-2
 PP% 19(21st)  PK% 72(30th)  Faceoff% 53.1(3rd)


Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Kuznetsov 92 - Wilson 43

McMichael 24 - Strome 17 - Phillips 45
Milano 15 - Lapierre 29 - Protas 21
Malenstyn 47 - Dowd 26 - Mantha 39

Fehervary 42 - Carlson(A) 74
Sandin 38 - Jensen 3
Edmundson 6 - van Riemsdyk 57

Kuemper 35

PP1: Ovechkin, Mantha, Kuznetsov, Wilson, Carlson
PP2: Ovechkin, Strome, Protas, McMichael, Sandin 

scratched:
Lindgren 79 - backup
Johansen 46
Aubé-Kubel 96
Alexeyev 27 - upper body - shoulder

IR:
Oshie 77 - upper body - concussion

LTIR:
Pacioretty 67 - achilles
Backstrom 19 - hip - season

Sharks anticipated lines:
Eklund 74 - Kunin 11 - Hoffman 68

Zetterlund 20 - Granlund 64 - Duclair 10
MacDonald 9 - Sturm 7 - Bailey 90
Smith 54 - Carpenter 22 - Labanc 62

Ferro 38 - Emberson 6
Addison 33 - Benning 5
Okhotiuk 83 - Burroughs 4

Blackwood 29
Kahkonen 36 - backup

tonight’s zebras:

Jean Herbert 15, Corey Syvret 23
Travis Gawryletz 6, Ben O’Quinn 91

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-start-long-trip-in-san-jose (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-start-long-trip-in-san-jose)

scoring summary
1st period:
Zetterlund from Okhotiuk and Granlund at 10:23
2nd period:
Kuznetsov(4) from van Riemsdyk(4) and Fehervary(3) at 16:25
3rd period:
Kunin PPG from Bailey and Emberson at 12:48

Caps lose 2-1
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday November 27, 2023, 04:22:19 PM Eastern
equally bad starting lines from each team today  :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 04:34:23 PM Eastern
Just a reminder, Devante Smith-Pelly will be joining John Walton on the radio for this 5 game road trip.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 04:49:06 PM Eastern
I know yesterday it was posted that Mantha will be the scratch, but this afternoon I’m seeing that Aubé-Kubel will be the scratch instead of Mantha. Not sure which source is correct at this juncture. Going to have to wait till closer to game time, which is still about 6 hours away..


Also, at this juncture I don’t see Oshie or Alexeyev officially on the IR list. Not that they need to be when the team has cap space to play with.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: justwincaps on Monday November 27, 2023, 05:08:40 PM Eastern
Didn't get to see the last game versus the Oilers [which given the recent US holiday] I am THANKFUL for.

I don't understand Philips on the second line and Mantha on the 4th line.  Seems to me you'd just put Mantha in for Osh.  Was NAK so bad last game that they needed to replace him? 
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 06:08:54 PM Eastern
I don’t think NAK was any worse that anyone else on the team against Edmonton. Maybe it’s getting another look at Phillips against a perceived weaker team. I like the kid, but I think he’s just too small to make it. He’s smaller than St Louis.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: capsfanpdx on Monday November 27, 2023, 06:45:22 PM Eastern

Don't need to start a "streak" vs this team.  Need a decisive win to hit the ground running on this swing.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 06:49:59 PM Eastern
Don't agree with Phillips over NAK either, but we'll see.


Saw that Oshie was put on IR.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 07:32:35 PM Eastern
Saw that Oshie was put on IR.

Where? I mostly watch capfriendly for that information. They are usually on top of things.


Never mind, I see the note about Oshie. It was posted about 6:30, and not at Caps PR or Caps.com. I swear this has got to be one of the worst run team websites in the league.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday November 27, 2023, 09:55:14 PM Eastern
FWIW...Phillips is a waste of a spot on the 4th line.  Mantha is not.  ALthough NAK is a better 4th liner than either IMO.  Not sure Mantha has the scoring touch for the second line (on a real contender), but he has had quite a few chances better this year than previously.  Only knock on PHillips is his size.  He does have a nose for the net and is driving the net most of the time and in the offensive play.  His size makes him a liability most places on the ice.

Go Caps.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 09:59:45 PM Eastern
Where? I mostly watch capfriendly for that information. They are usually on top of things.

Never mind, I see the note about Oshie. It was posted about 6:30, and not at Caps PR or Caps.com. I swear this has got to be one of the worst run team websites in the league.


Yep, bout 6:30 is when I seen it, on the Twitterverse
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 10:04:12 PM Eastern
Technically speaking, Caps.com was not wrong today. The game is listed as being on Monumental 1, but, Caps pregame is on Monumental 2, because there was a basketball game on 1. They are still doing postgame for that.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 10:42:08 PM Eastern
7:30 start on the west coast, vs an east coast team is bullshittery.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 10:44:40 PM Eastern
PP…
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 10:47:13 PM Eastern
how the fook did that not go in
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 10:50:31 PM Eastern
Couple good looks, no love as usual. Side note: 42 seconds to set up.  :clown:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 10:52:11 PM Eastern
Looked like Phillips started PP1 but swapped out quick for Wilson
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 11:02:50 PM Eastern
 :-( :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 11:05:34 PM Eastern
Blackwood gonna make his Vezina bid tonight I guess.  :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 27, 2023, 11:21:20 PM Eastern
Pfft. Same ol' no luck Caps. Glad Dowd made it back to the bench. Gonna watch the rest of this one from the sack..
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 11:34:06 PM Eastern
yea, going to watch the rest from bed as well, but the eyelids don’t feel like they will stay open til the end
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 27, 2023, 11:44:05 PM Eastern
“putrid power play”
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:04:59 AM Eastern
Bring Micho up from Hershey. Team needs a goal scorer.

Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:06:51 AM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

KUZNETSOV
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:17:07 AM Eastern
PP ofer 3 so far. 4 posts.  :rofl:  Just decline em from now on.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: capsfanpdx on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:30:36 AM Eastern
24 not having a good game.

Someone please tell me why they don't bench Mantha for NEVER finishing (or starting) checks against the boards.  It drives me bonkers watching him pull up every single time.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:43:19 AM Eastern
He's the softest player on the team. He'd shy away from Phillips :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:55:36 AM Eastern
I remember when he first came to the Caps, DC liked the trade,
told us he played with edge.  :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: capsfanpdx on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 12:59:19 AM Eastern
DK DK DK errrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 01:13:35 AM Eastern
Special teams loss  :(  32 shots and 1 goal, you have a talent problem.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: capsfanpdx on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 01:34:51 AM Eastern

Hopefully they will get a little more aggressive with blowing up the roster.   Could be a looooooooooooooong road trip
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 08:42:30 AM Eastern
Managed to stay up and watch this.  Much more physical game than I expected.  I did actually see Mantha go after and hit a guy.
Goalie (and his posts) stole this one.  We played as well as they did and took a bunch more shots, but ultimately we made the Sharks look like a good team and that's a bad sign.  Our PP is pathetic, but we did beat the goalie multiple times, the puck just wouldn't go in.
I knew we were in trouble before the game when talking heads kept droning on about how we've dominated the Sharks in recent history and haven't lost in their building...blah blah blah
I expect it will be a mediocre road trip, but then what would you expect from a mediocre team?  The Caps just aren't that good.  We all knew it before the season started and the recent success was the Caps honestly playing above their level, and getting some bounces or breaks they were overdue for.
We have a team of aging superstars past their prime, good but not great goaltending, some young unproven talent, and a new coach.  I dont think that adds up to a Cup contender.
I like the new coach, but not sure this team has the speed and stamina for his type of game.
Sooner or later the PP will get some goals just from the law of averages and that will help win a few games.  There are plenty of mediocre teams for us to win half our games.  We might even win a coach's challenge one day.
Oh, but hay - not to worry, the next several games should be a breeze vs Kings, Ducks, Knights, Coyotes, Stars, Rangers....  The Ducks are the only team in the next 6 with a losing record and they have lost 6 in a row so Im sure we can help them break that streak
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 10:01:59 AM Eastern
We need Vezina caliber goal tending to win. $40m in salary combining for like 7 or 8 "competitive" goals in 18 games is beyond pathetic.


And Rich saw Mantha check someone? What game you watch?  :huh: :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 10:17:57 AM Eastern
0-5 trip coming up.  That 10-4-2 record will be the high point of the season.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: justwincaps on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 03:12:49 PM Eastern
Managed to stay up and watch this.  Much more physical game than I expected.  I did actually see Mantha go after and hit a guy.
Goalie (and his posts) stole this one.  We played as well as they did and took a bunch more shots, but ultimately we made the Sharks look like a good team and that's a bad sign.  Our PP is pathetic, but we did beat the goalie multiple times, the puck just wouldn't go in.
I knew we were in trouble before the game when talking heads kept droning on about how we've dominated the Sharks in recent history and haven't lost in their building...blah blah blah
I expect it will be a mediocre road trip, but then what would you expect from a mediocre team?  The Caps just aren't that good.  We all knew it before the season started and the recent success was the Caps honestly playing above their level, and getting some bounces or breaks they were overdue for.
We have a team of aging superstars past their prime, good but not great goaltending, some young unproven talent, and a new coach.  I dont think that adds up to a Cup contender.
I like the new coach, but not sure this team has the speed and stamina for his type of game.
Sooner or later the PP will get some goals just from the law of averages and that will help win a few games.  There are plenty of mediocre teams for us to win half our games.  We might even win a coach's challenge one day.
Oh, but hay - not to worry, the next several games should be a breeze vs Kings, Ducks, Knights, Coyotes, Stars, Rangers....  The Ducks are the only team in the next 6 with a losing record and they have lost 6 in a row so Im sure we can help them break that streak


Thanks for "taking one for the team" and staying up to watch us lose to the worst team in the NHL.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: alta on Tuesday November 28, 2023, 05:17:36 PM Eastern

Thanks for "taking one for the team" and staying up to watch us lose to the worst team in the NHL.


Yesterday the Blue Jackets beat the Bruins 5-2 and the Sabres beat the Rags 5-1. The middle of the pack Caps losing to the Sharks 2-1 ain’t that bad.
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Wednesday November 29, 2023, 09:28:44 AM Eastern

Yesterday the Blue Jackets beat the Bruins 5-2 and the Sabres beat the Rags 5-1. The middle of the pack Caps losing to the Sharks 2-1 ain’t that bad.
I saw those scores last night.  Most NHL teams could be any given NHL team on occasion so its never that surprising.
I'm not overly discouraged the Caps lost to Sharks.  The Caps were due for a loss and they didn't play badly...they just couldn't score, and they did generate some chances.  But, we only scored 1 goal against THE leakiest team in the league, so only getting 1 against them ain't good.  Caps are great at finding "hot goalies" to play against.
I'm just discouraged that the Caps are...well pretty mediocre.  I didn't/don't have any realistic hope they are going anywhere this year, but being a diehard fan, I really want them to.  I like Carberry, and would like him to have success here but not sure that is possible with this roster.
So many guys are underperforming.  Kuzy and Ovi both, and that's two of your top scorers.  Mantha, of course, but thats to be expected at this point.  Backy has stepped aside which is sad, but ultimately an improvement.  Oshie...oof.  When 4 of your top 6 are not performing, then you got problems.  Include Mantha and 5 of your top 9 are not pulling their weight.  Strome is a bright spot and so is McMike-so far.  Many of the youngins are doing well so that's a plus.
Fever is a beast - I really like his game.  He's got some snarl.  Not only is he quick, he hits people, and watch him in front after the whistle...he still hitting and pushing and cross-checking guys out of the crease.  Reminds me of "a defenseman". Reminds me a little of Siegenthaler, but let's not open that wound again.
Problem with the loss to Sharks is they're one of the two teams closer to the bottom in this coming stretch of games, so one you prolly want to win.

Go Caps.  Go stomp some ducks
Title: Re: GDT #18 Caps vs Sharks @ 10:30pm
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday November 29, 2023, 10:06:37 AM Eastern
We're going to rely on McMike, Strome and Wilson to carry the load on goals.. Let that sink in.  :-(