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I was reading somewhere (twitter most likely) that Reirden said he'd be getting guys in games, even if it was only 1 game, so no matter what they could say they'd "played in the NHL".. Not sure I like that tactic, but that's what I read.. So, if Lewington stays up a minute, I imagine he'll get in a game.May as well get him some time while he is up.
And again, what the hell kind of "complication" could cause Djoos to have his thigh operated on? :huh:
Bura is done here, no other reason to be scratched 3 games in a row. Unless he’s injured, but I doubt that
Where's my Snake emoji AJ?? DAMN!! :uh-huh: :rofl:
I tried to find a good one I could work with, but no luck so far. I'll keep working on it for you.
Cool, you know Im just bustin your chops! :snicker:
these phucks ....Slapshot needs to walk over and kick the Wizard one in the balls.. He should be used to it. :wackysmile:
Mmmm, We're waiting on a couple of Papa John's CAPS50 pizzas.Home made pizza for us tonight. Pepperoni, ham, mushroom and bacon. I can't wait
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I'd swear I can smell it and it hasn't been delivered yet.
that was a horse shit call
Holy shit,what a shot!
Two more coming!!!! :uh-huh:
Vrana had amazing chance..
I'd much rather have Jaskin at remain at 4L. That fourth line has been spectacular. I understand Reirden's reasoning, but I did not agree with breaking up a consistently winning line.
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If anything they should have sat a 3rd line player.
If we lose pretty clearly it’s the special teams.Pk is brutal. Pp also sucked tonight.
Sweet dreams peeps.
Saw the 1st.. Picked it up with Kuz in the SO. NHL Tonight getting ready to show highlights. But the PK? LoL.. How many have they gave up the last 2 games?? 4? 5? Reirden needs to adjust somethin..3 pp goals against yesterday. Officially 2 today but the other goal was scored just as the penalty expired. So you could say 3 again today even though the stats will show 2.
NHL Tonight highlights "start" with Ovi in the shootout.. :-\ That's it, then "Caps win!" lol I'll have to check a later edition. But anyway, basically 6 PP goals against in 2 games? Yikees..
I was reading somewhere (twitter most likely) that Reirden said he'd be getting guys in games, even if it was only 1 game, so no matter what they could say they'd "played in the NHL".. Not sure I like that tactic, but that's what I read.. So, if Lewington stays up a minute, I imagine he'll get in a game.
And again, what the hell kind of "complication" could cause Djoos to have his thigh operated on? :huh:
We don't know the Reirden MO in this regard. It could be that he is going to sit Bura for a moderate length of time, especially as long as the team keeps winning, hoping that when he does get back in the lineup he will be re-energized.
The problem with trading Bura is that if a forward or two gets injured there is almost no one from Hershey to bring up and plug in. Boyd and Barber are about it. At some point you might need to plug Bura back in, for better or worse.
I missed the first 2 goals of this game. Thanks Rush
even more impressive for OV tonight was the SO goal, he's a little under %30 career in the SO
I have heard that the Vancouver Canucks have inquired about him. The guy that makes sense from the Canucks is Edler because of injuries to the dcore. Not sure if we could fit him.
I mostly agree Black.
I think Bura may just experience the longest reset of his career here, this time, barring injury to another starting forward.
I think, at least as it stands right now, Bura will be prioritized BELOW a potential revolving rotation between Jaskin, and Stephenson (and maybe even DSP), for who to scratch occasionally. As of now, I think Boyd’s job is safe currently speaking! Same for Dowd, although he’s a center. I think you’ll see some experimentation with Barber also. Of course, no one can be sure of Rierdens thoughts, as you said, this is just attempting to discuss some possible angles.👍
Like Alta mentioned, 3 scratches in a row, certainly has a “message quality”, to it, and unfortunately for Bura, he doesn’t have a lot of convincing evidence that these “resets”, result in a positive effect, for him!
I get the sense that Bura’s scratches have a more punitive thread in them. By comparison, Jaskin and Stephensons scratches are due to having to make choices from a more positive backdrop!
I’m sure the league knows what we know on Bura. Can’t remember who posted about an LA Kings trade or something. That sounded as good as anything else. Unless Bura really capitalizes on the next chances he’s given, before the trade deadline, management may know there’s not much value there already.
Rush
I think right now he shows one of the best hockey in his nhl career because of his beautiful family which hugely supports him,therefore as I said initially this season he gonna score even more goals compare to last seasons :cross:
PRAISE JESUS!!!
One might wonder also if Ovie is playing so well because of winning the Cup last year. As team captain and the unquestioned straw that stirs this organization's drink, winning the Cup last year may have taken a huge accumulating weight off his shoulders, so during the regular season he doesn't have to have the issue of playoff disappointments constantly on the edge of his radar. He can just go out and play, and the playoffs will take care of itself when they arrive.
PRAISE JESUS!!!
Come on man, you’re a statistician, Are you trying to sell us the idea that Ovies “feelings”, will be enough for the playoffs to “take care of itself when (or if) they arrive”?
Do the results changing on the same pattern on the 10th time, invalidate all preceding data and give a high probably of continuing going forward when the chief contributing factor is “feelings”?
Confidence was what they lacked in years past.. Not like they made it to the playoffs and then got blown out or something. They usually just choked. And it was usually the offense/depth.. Whether it was the D and or Holtby, they didn't lose because of some loose style game they were playing or because their defenders were too small.. They just couldn't get over the mental hurdle and score goals when it was most needed.. So now they won a cup and the confidence is/will be there.. Do the statistics say they'll not repeat? Sure.. So what? :raspberry:
while my statement was sarcastically exaggerated, albeit a tad aggressive, the logic is quite sound.
DC, my statement had nothing to do with what I perceive the Capitals' chances for success in the playoffs would be. I said that I suspected the reason Ovie might be doing well IN THE REGULAR SEASON is that he has the Stanley Cup monkey off his back. So he doesn't have the "but the playoffs" bugaboo nagging at him, either in a personal psychological way or through the media. All the last statement about "the playoffs will take care of themselves" represented was the opinion that he doesn't really have to worry about them anymore until they arrive, IF they arrive. It was NOT a prediction that the playoffs will go well for the team. And anyway, even if the team has struggled in the playoffs over the years, Ovie has actually played quite well in them. All he can do is control his own performance -- he can't control everyone else's. So drawing a conclusion from my last statement that because some pressure is off Ovie means the TEAM will do well in the playoffs is bad logic.
The Metro standings are very tight so far this season, and it is not at all certain that the Caps will even be in them. Their recent hot streak has given them a little cushion, and they've weathered their injury/suspension issues well so far, but we are just now getting into the meat of the season.
while my statement was sarcastically exaggerated, albeit a tad aggressive, the logic is quite sound.
You’re post sounds like he had a literal exorcism where his head was spinning 360 degrees and/or projectile vomiting pea soup about the Verizon Center every spring, but now everything’s just honkey-dory and he go about happy and taking care of himself and he will be rewarded. . .
But the biggest reason his stats are so high: Reidon wants to keep his job, and for the players and management to like him, so he’s using a pond-hockey playbook. Players and teams in a D-first/200ft system, do not score this many goals for this long, or GIVE UP as many, particularly with an elite goalie.
Reidens systen is built for stat padding, players like their stats padded so they have fun while they can
Who cares what kind of hockey they are playing, they have won 12 out of their last 14 games. I hope doing whatever their doing continues if it results in wins. They proved last year that they can make adjustments in the playoffs when neccessary and no reason to think they can’t or won’t this year.Actually I care what kind of hockey we are playing. I know we have won 12 of 14 but a lot of those 12 wins havent been pretty. We got lucky to win some of those games. We are winning with skill but no structure. If we continue to play like this our luck will run out eventually. If we play this style in the playoffs they will be golfing early.
:rofl: Pond hockey.. Youz guyz.. :wackysmile:Its actually not a bad comparison. Our city holds a winter festival every February. One of the events, maybe the biggest is the hockey tournament that is played on the lake. Dozens of teams enter this tournament. Most teams consist of friends throwing a team together at the last minute. Myself and 2 of my cousins used to throw a team in every year. It was fun and we did a lot of drinking but we were pretty much freelancing out there. There was no structure. There always was a handful of teams that took it very serious and those are the teams that would advance the furthest in this tournament. And that was because they played with structure and had coaching. I can't remember how many teams would be entered but the majority of it was just pond hockey. It really wasn't meant to be taken serious.
I’m in the long suffering process, as a hockey old schooler, of weighing out the pros and cons of continuing to stay a fan of hockey.I am having a hard time adapting to the new game. I'm fine with trying to bring more skill to the game. There are more small speedy guys. Defencemen are mostly puck movers now.
Obviously, for now, I’ve decided it’s still worth watching. I’ve been wrestling with the dilemma of comparing the “good old hockey”, to the newer, softer style, less pure and less fundamentally sound, hockey! [size=78%]I both want to see, and miss, the physical, grittier, hockey![/size]
[size=78%]For the last 3 or 4 years, many in the newer, generally younger crowd, have advised me that I should just accept the changes, because the NHL will never go back to the way it was.[/size]
I’ve basically dumped the NFL already, as I’ve gradually come to the decision, FOR MYSELF, over the past 5 years, that the frustration of watching it, outweighs the enjoyment I used to get out of its competition!
I’m not afraid to do this with the NHL either, personally, although if I did, it would be the letting go of my last major sport!
I say all this because I’ve realized that EVERY SINGLE NHL TEAM, is guilty, OFTEN, of not playing the type of game, that I like to see!! Outcomes of the general NHL game schedule are as fickle as ever, on a DAILY BASIS.
NO TEAM, that I watch now, plays that smash-mouth, in your face, “Broad Street Bullies”, type of hockey that I love to watch!! Hell, we don’t even get little snippets of it anymore!
I admit to having to let go of some of my “purist passion”, already, in order to accept the game as it is presented today! Do I like having to do it !! FUCKIN HELL NO!!! But I can’t keep on setting myself up for having a cloud of “bitterness”, randomly floating in my brain, throughout the NHL season! UNTIL, the time comes when I have my NFL realization moment, with the NHL!!
Not there yet!
Rush
So the increase in the average goals for and against is following the same trend as the rest of the league, so that you don’t see evidence that that stat-increases are the result a system being designed to increase stats? The use of averages supports you’re point as it levels out the peaks and drops making it appear that each game is 3-2. 3-2 does not appear to indicate the high scoring pond hockey.
Regardless of the hyperbole defense, you still haven't addressed what I really meant in my original post, which I can't know for sure, but I think is valid speculation: That Ovie has some pressure off him this year, he is playing like it, and the results so far have turned out very well.
And I don't buy your Reirden/pond hockey theory. At least, it's not borne out by the partial-year stats we have thus far.
Last year the Caps scored 3.16 goals/game in the regular season, and gave up 2.91 goals/game (259/239). Now this year they are scoring 3.72 per game thus far, and giving up 3.09 (119/99). Yep, they are scoring more, and giving up more. But the funny thing is, the ENTIRE difference between their goals allowed per game last year and their goals allowed per game this year is in the extra goals they've yielded on the PK, which is the one time when the team is focused on trying to defend. (PK % is about 75 this year vs. slightly over 80 last year, which accounts for about a 6+ goal difference given the number of PK situations they've had so far this season.) So if the team is focused on playing "pond hockey," it hasn't affected their GA thus far. However, for whatever reasons, their offensive game has picked up significantly from last year.
Now I wanted to check the league as a whole, because I was under the impression that scoring was up significantly, which I suspected was due to the increasing removal of physicality and letting the skilled guys do their thing, + the reduction in size of some of the goalie equipment. Scoring is up a bit, but not all that much: 3.08 goals per team per game this year as opposed to 2.98 per team per game last year, which surprised me.
Bottom line is this -- IF we were to assume that the Caps were more "pond hockeyish" this year than last (which, having attended some games, I don't really see), it is showing up ONLY on the offensive side of the scoresheet. Which means that so far, if Reirden has pushed more wide-open hockey, it's been to the team's net benefit, and it seems to have been to this teams net benefit more than it has been to the league as a whole.
Now, will things need to change if the Caps make the playoffs? I'd think so. But the objective of the regular season is to do as well as you can in the regular season, because you can't win playoff games in the regular season. And I have no criticism of Reirden for the hockey he has this team playing thus far.
Who cares what kind of hockey they are playing, they have won 12 out of their last 14 games. I hope doing whatever their doing continues if it results in wins. They proved last year that they can make adjustments in the playoffs when neccessary and no reason to think they can’t or won’t this year.Actually, there is every reason to think they can not or will not adjust this year, and the over confidence that "they did it once, they can do it again", is one of the biggest reasons everyone should be noting
So the increase in the average goals for and against is following the same trend as the rest of the league, so that you don’t see evidence that that stat-increases are the result a system being designed to increase stats? The use of averages supports you’re point as it levels out the peaks and drops making it appear that each game is 3-2. 3-2 does not appear to indicate the high scoring pond hockey.
But, they have scored five or more goals (all types), in 34% of their games, and have allowed 5 or more in 22%. So with these seven games over 5, Holtbys two SO have their GAA “down” to 3.09.
You still don’t buy that this is the result of Reirdons Monumental (pun intended) pond-hockey/videgame stat padding system?
So Reirdon just takes the NHL template and passes it out to the players? That must be why Trotz got "fired" because he ran a "good old fashioned system" through much of the playoffs last year instead of the "template" and won with it.
If it's happening throughout the league, it isn't Reirdon's system, it's the league's doing. The league wanted a more wide-open game, and they've got it. It's difficult to execute the "good old fashioned" type of game when the league has legislated out many of its tactics.
Puck, since turning 50, my motto has been "don't sweat the small stuff".. And anything having to do with sports is "the small stuff".. :uh-huh: :P The NFL will probably be flag football in our lifetime (at least at the skills positions) but what are ya gonna do? Stop watching? I've rooted for the sorry ass Redskins since birth.. If I can stomach through the Dan Snyder era, I can stomach some sissy ass rules.. Is what it is my brotha! ;)
Are other teams' message boards this "downer debby" and "the sky is falling" and "our team is just lucky to win" when there teams win 12 out of 14 games?
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I think we're compensating quite well. .... Imho.
It is getting difficult to play good physical defensive hockey because of rule changes but there still is some teams that are doing it. The Preds are pretty good in their own end. Look at what the Isles are doing with that pathetic roster. They dont have anything close to a number one dman and their goaltending is below average but their defensive numbers aren't bad.
If it's happening throughout the league, it isn't Reirdon's system, it's the league's doing. The league wanted a more wide-open game, and they've got it. It's difficult to execute the "good old fashioned" type of game when the league has legislated out many of its tactics.
Does nobody else think that we're compensating for our lak of wxperience on the back end? Is it just me then?Well if are dcore is weak its more reason for our forwards to help by backcheckng. Our forwards have been just as responsible for our defensive play as our defense. Defense is more about the system than individual play.
Am I the only one that thinks that we're playing to our strenghts and "Capitalixing" on our forwards and their skill to overcome our current lack of experience on D?
Sorry, that's the way I see it.
Our guys are incredibly skilled and experienced up front, so the more goals they score, more relief for the whole team. Holtby hasn't been at his best yet and stupid, dumb, unneccesary penalties (Yes Bowey - lookind at you) don't help.
I think we're compensating quite well. .... Imho.
:raspberry:
some of us are 8)
some of us aren’t :lol:
Well if are dcore is weak its more reason for our forwards to help by backcheckng. Our forwards have been just as responsible for our defensive play as our defense. Defense is more about the system than individual play.I actually like the way Reirdon teaching our young Dcorps. They become responsible for their stupid plays.
I actually like the way Reirdon teaching our young Dcorps. They become responsible for their stupid plays.The funny thing is that the young guys are playing well. Its Orlov and Niskanen that are struggling. Its been disaster for that pair this year.
The object of a hockey game is to score more goals than your opponent. So if you score 6 goals and your opponent scores 5 you win and if you score 1 goal and your opponent scores 0 goals you win. There is no difference. You have two wins, one is no better than the other. Personally I like watching high scoring games, other people may like watching low scoring games. I want the Caps to win and I really don’t care how they win. The Caps are good at adapting to the way the other team plays, if their opponent wants to play a wide open game the Caps can play that game and succeed. If the opponent wants to play a tight checking game the Caps can play that style and win as they showed in the playoffs last season. DC I don’t know why you doubt that the Caps can’t play like they did in the playoffs when they have basically the same players. Despite what you may think the system Rierden is using is not much different if any than the system Trotz used.Just score more than your opponent works fine for pick-up games on the pond or rec league but thats about it. If thats the case why not just trade/cut Holtby and get web-developer to suit-up and play goalie and get another 40 goal scorer with the cap space so than we win 12-11?
Well if are dcore is weak its more reason for our forwards to help by backcheckng. Our forwards have been just as responsible for our defensive play as our defense. Defense is more about the system than individual play.Exactly why we call it a pond hockey system
Just score more than your opponent works fine for pick-up games on the pond or rec league but thats about it. If thats the case why not just trade/cut Holtby and get web-developer to suit-up and play goalie and get another 40 goal scorer with the cap space so than we win 12-11?I agree about the Holtby comment. I feel bad for him. I have read his comments about how he is not happy with the way game is changing. Some teams are still focused on defence but we aren't one of those teams. We are pretty much throwing Holtby under a bus and asking him to bail us out. People think Holtby is playing like crap because his numbers aren't great but that isn't the case. He has had some games. He has also won a few games for us.
Hell when the only kid/person has goalie equipment, he plays goal doesn't he?
Why doubt them? What trust them? What solid data and analysis supports having blind faith and conifidence in them?
I agree about the Holtby comment. I feel bad for him. I have read his comments about how he is not happy with the way game is changing. Some teams are still focused on defence but we aren't one of those teams. We are pretty much throwing Holtby under a bus and asking him to bail us out. People think Holtby is playing like crap because his numbers aren't great but that isn't the case. He has had some games. He has also won a few games for us.You're damn right!
You're damn right!
Without Holtby, we probably wouldn't be a .500 team this year, and sure we sure as hell wouldn't have a Cup.
The minimal, if any, support from or forwards he gets is "just the new NHL" and none of the Caps players or coaches are accountable for that right?
I agree about the Holtby comment. I feel bad for him. I have read his comments about how he is not happy with the way game is changing. Some teams are still focused on defence but we aren't one of those teams. We are pretty much throwing Holtby under a bus and asking him to bail us out. People think Holtby is playing like crap because his numbers aren't great but that isn't the case. He has had some games. He has also won a few games for us.
If Holtby is unhappy with the way that the game is changing, he should bring it up to the league office (which, for all I know, he may already have.) It isn't the organization's fault that they are trying to adapt to the way that the league as a whole has changed. And in fact, looking at the GFA and GAA, it appears that the Caps, relatively speaking, may be doing a better job of adapting to the changes than many other teams in the league. I know Holtby would like to return to the days when he was near or at the top in GAA and a Vezina candidate, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. You don't see Ovechkin whining about how he could have more goals if he hadn't played most of his career thus far in a relatively low-scoring era in the NHL.
Holtby is a good goalie. He's recognized as such, including financially. His job is to do the best that he can given the game environment in which he is placed, and it may well be that that is exactly what he is doing. If he is unhappy he is a free agent in a couple of years and can seek out an organization that he thinks will protect him better, if that is what he wants to do. If he is worried that his stats are going to hurt his next contract, he can point to his W/L record, his Stanley Cup, his exemplary performance in the playoffs over his career, and he will still be paid handsomely.
:huh: Games played to points earned we're 2nd in the league, winning the division, won 12 of the last 14 and defending the Stanley Cup.. Lets bitch!!! :uh-huh: :rofl:We’re winning despite playing very bad and very ugly, which doesn’t bode well for a team work a target on its head and a rookie head coach.
We’re winning despite playing very bad and very ugly, which doesn’t bode well for a team work a target on its head and a rookie head coach.
We should all know by now that this style and methodologylooseswins way more than itwinsloses, at least for this team in the regular season.
yea, like all comments i’m this thread, you missed the point.
Fixed it for you.
We’re winning despite playing very bad and very ugly, which doesn’t bode well for a team work a target on its head and a rookie head coach.
We should all know by now that this style and methodology looses way more than it wins
I am with you Mickstix. Overall, the Caps have been playing well except for taking too many penalties and not being able to kill them off. 5 on 5 we have been the better team in most of the games. As for Holtby being unhappy, the only mention of his unhappiness that I have seen was in connection with the change in the goalie equipment and that he was getting a lot of bruises. It was not that he was unhappy with how the Caps were playing in front of him.
That's just it, Im not seeing this very bad/ugly pond hockey you and Maaco are? I've seen some bad plays sure, I've seen some soft goals, I've seen some shitty PKs, but poor structure and ugly play? Not sure what you guys are watching.. Holtbys been good, but if you think he's been making 10 bell saves to keep us in games I'd say he's given up nearly as many softies and head standers.. Maybe it's my Stanley Cup goggles?? :hearts:
I am with you Mickstix. Overall, the Caps have been playing well except for taking too many penalties and not being able to kill them off. 5 on 5 we have been the better team in most of the games. As for Holtby being unhappy, the only mention of his unhappiness that I have seen was in connection with the change in the goalie equipment and that he was getting a lot of bruises. It was not that he was unhappy with how the Caps were playing in front of him.
Actually I agree with your assessment on Holtby. He is playing well but not exceptional. That's kind of my point. 2 seasons ago when we allowed the fewest goals in the league Holtby didn't play any better even though his numbers were so much better.
That's just it, Im not seeing this very bad/ugly pond hockey you and Maaco are? I've seen some bad plays sure, I've seen some soft goals, I've seen some shitty PKs, but poor structure and ugly play? Not sure what you guys are watching.. Holtbys been good, but if you think he's been making 10 bell saves to keep us in games I'd say he's given up nearly as many softies and head standers.. Maybe it's my Stanley Cup goggles?? :hearts:
To follow up, I like Holtby enough.Actually I thought Holtby was too polite when he made those comments. He should have been ripping his team mates new asshole. They threw him under the bus and are doing it again this year.
I was surprised that he seemed to use today’s game style, as part of the reason he had a rough time in the last half of last years season.
Although that comment seemed uncharacteristic of Holtz, to me, I thought strongly that it was a pathetically weak excuse, as this situation is the same for ALL goalies, league wide!!
I just chalked it off to maybe he had a lot of frustration, however, that statement would have been more understandable, had he said it during the season. Instead, he said it during the summer after we won the Stanley Cup! Kinda weak on his part, albeit uncharacteristic for him, in his defense!
Rush
Actually I thought Holtby was too polite when he made those comments. He should have been ripping his team mates new asshole. They threw him under the bus and are doing it again this year.