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Title: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 05:53:00 PM Eastern
                  :capslogoUSA:

                (https://galactichub.com/caps/Capitals @ Kings.gif)

  Game 30              45-20-4-5
(PTS-W-L-OT)   Streak - W4
  Wed Dec 4, 2019      Washington Capitals @ Los Angeles Kings  [11-15-2]
  Place:  STAPLES Center
  Time:  10:00 p.m. ET
  TV:  NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
  Radio:  106.7 or 94.7 The Fan, Caps Radio 24/7 (http://tunein.com/radio/Caps-Radio-247-s231201/)
  NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2019020437) for Live Box Score
  Last Game:  Tue Dec 3, 10:30 p.m. EST Capitals won 5-2 against Sharks
  Next Game:  Fri Dec 6, 10:00 p.m. EST Capitals @ Ducks

:spacer50pix:  8-Ovechkin :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson
:spacer50pix: 13-Vrana :spacer50pix: 20-Eller :spacer50pix: 77-Oshie
:spacer50pix: 62-Hagelin :spacer50pix: 72-Boyd :spacer50pix: 14-Panik
:spacer50pix: 28-Leipsic :spacer50pix: 26-Dowd :spacer50pix: 21-Hathaway
:spacer50pix: :spacer50pix:  6-Kempny :spacer50pix:  74-Carlson
:spacer50pix: :spacer50pix:   9-Orlov :spacer50pix:   3-Jensen
:spacer50pix: :spacer50pix:  34-Siegenthaler :spacer50pix:  33-Gudas
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 30-Samsonov (starter)
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby


                                                   -- SCRATCH --         
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: None

                                                   -- INJURED --         
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström (upper body)

                                            -- 1st Powerplay Unit -- 
    :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana     :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov     :spacer50pix: 77-Oshie
    :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin     :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson

                                           -- 2nd Powerplay Unit --         
    :spacer50pix: 72-Boyd     :spacer50pix: 20-Eller     :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson
    :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 28-Leipsic/8-Ovechkin    :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov

:spacer50pix:  Referees:   Jean Hebert (#15),    Graham Skilliter (#24)
:spacer50pix:  Linesmen:   Ryan Daisy (#81),    Bevan Mills (#53)


                                           Kings Projected Lines
                           19-Alex Iafallo -- 11-Anze Kopitar -- 23-Dustin Brown
                           77-Jeff Carter -- 74-Nikolai Prokhorkin -- 73-Tyler Toffoli
                           9-Andre Kempe -- 46-Blake Lizotte -- 51-Austin Wagner
                           13-Kyle Clifford -- 10-Mike Amadio -- Trevor Lewis

                                         6-Joakim Ryan -- 8-Drew Doughty
                                         15-Ben Hutton -- 3-Matt Roy
                                         56-Kurtis MacDermid -- 26-Sean Walker

                                                32-Jonathan Quick (Starter)
                                                36-Jack Campbell

                  Scratched:
                  Injured: 24-Derek Forbort, 27-Alec  Martinez


(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fscoring_summary.gif&hash=e4c44b0c35837704bf29d0ee1ad212f9)

1st Period
04:36  GOAL 74-Carlson, unassisted   1-0 WSH
13:27  GOAL 74-Carlson, assists 77-Oshie & 20-Eller   2-0 WSH

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
03:20  Kings GOAL Lizotte unassisted   2-1 WSH
18:41  EN GOAL 43-Wilson, unassisted   3-1 WSH

FINAL:    3-1 WSH


- Evander Kane fined, not suspended, for hit on Radko Gudas.


- — 33-Radko Gudas will play.


STREAMS:
http://bestnhl.com/nhl.php?feed=Away&id=70390303&game=2019020437 (http://bestnhl.com/nhl.php?feed=Away&id=70390303&game=2019020437)
http://bilasport.net/game/los-angeles-kings-vs-washington-capitals-20694.html (http://bilasport.net/game/los-angeles-kings-vs-washington-capitals-20694.html)
http://www.nhlstream.net/washington-capitals-live-stream/ (http://www.nhlstream.net/washington-capitals-live-stream/)
(More streams can be found in the Sticky Game Streams Thread (https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/index.php/topic,385.0.html))
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 08:05:06 PM Eastern
No Backstrom again tonight, that is disappointing and getting worrisome.  What is troubling is that in the game he got hurt which was the Ducks game there was no indication that he got hurt.  He didn’t leave the ice or anything to indicate he was hurt.  In fact if memory serves me, he was on the ice for one of the last shifts in the game.  While most reports indicate it is an upper body injury I have also seen reports it is a lower body injury so I don’t know what is going on.  I sure hope he plays Friday. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Ozzies09tc on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 08:15:30 PM Eastern
No Backstrom again tonight, that is disappointing and getting worrisome.  What is troubling is that in the game he got hurt which was the Ducks game there was no indication that he got hurt.  He didn’t leave the ice or anything to indicate he was hurt.  In fact if memory serves me, he was on the ice for one of the last shifts in the game.  While most reports indicate it is an upper body injury I have also seen reports it is a lower body injury so I don’t know what is going on.  I sure hope he plays Friday.


Same thing happened to the Blues' Sammy Blais. Took a hit, could tell it stung but finished the game and scored a goal. Required wrist surgery and a re-eval 10 weeks later...
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:05:15 PM Eastern
Bummer.. He was wearing a full contact jersey in the last practice. Figured he be ready to go by now..  :-\ Least they were finally showing some chemistry last game. Need him back asap though.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:11:09 PM Eastern
I hope the Caps can deliver tonight.  Last night was pretty awesome to watch. I've been up since 5:15am. Going to be a late droopy eyed one again.

:gocaps:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: BlackIce on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:14:48 PM Eastern
Tonight will be the 7th game in a row that Backstrom will miss.  With the Caps having severe salary cap issues and having to shorten their bench to keep in compliance with the cap, you'd think it would make sense to put him on LTIR retroactively, keep him out for 3 more games, and use the space to bring up extra players while they are on the West Coast.


I think there is one reason and one reason only that they aren't doing this, and it's an indication of how much they value Backstrom.  If he were to go on LTIR and HAVE to miss 3 more games, the tenth game would be against the Bruins.  I think the team, if they feel he can be back by then, want him on the ice to play defense against the Bruins' top line and they are willing to go through all sorts of salary cap gyrations simply to have him available for that one game.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:16:53 PM Eastern
     :goal:
:74z:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:21:25 PM Eastern
Tonight will be the 7th game in a row that Backstrom will miss.  With the Caps having severe salary cap issues and having to shorten their bench to keep in compliance with the cap, you'd think it would make sense to put him on LTIR retroactively, keep him out for 3 more games, and use the space to bring up extra players while they are on the West Coast.


I think there is one reason and one reason only that they aren't doing this, and it's an indication of how much they value Backstrom.  If he were to go on LTIR and HAVE to miss 3 more games, the tenth game would be against the Bruins.  I think the team, if they feel he can be back by then, want him on the ice to play defense against the Bruins' top line and they are willing to go through all sorts of salary cap gyrations simply to have him available for that one game.

Interesting thought.  That is a huge game coming up. I've been anticipating that one for a while. One week from tonight.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:27:25 PM Eastern
whelp, at 9:55 someone decided she needed to go out and poop, so I missed the goal by our 13th foreword
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:32:12 PM Eastern
and nice to see Gudas playing tonight, he almost looked concussed last night
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:35:34 PM Eastern
 :74z:

SICK GOAL!!!!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Ozzies09tc on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:42:56 PM Eastern
:74z:

SICK GOAL!!!!



Helluva pass by Oshie too!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: RavenCp on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:53:01 PM Eastern
It was a very lively period! Carlson is on fire!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 10:53:06 PM Eastern
Carly on Fiyyah!!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:01:14 PM Eastern
Samsonov is looking solid in the net.  Seems very calm and confident.  That is good to see.  The second goal by Carlson will make all the highlight goals shown tonight.  It was amazing. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:05:43 PM Eastern
Hey folks!


Rush, (aka molasses thumbs), here, attempting to keep pace on the GDT!


In the heavily popular, “lip service” world, that NHL coaches have to play in occasionally, with the media, It is so cool to witness, in real time, evidence, proving that an aspect of something they’ve been working on has now began to bear fruit!!


Enter coach Rierden, and his declaration, during preseason this year, that the coaches would be working with John Carlson on his offensive skills!!


 A few seasons ago, had I witnessed a goal similar to John Carlson‘s 2nd goal tonight, I would’ve blabbed on about what a crappy defenseman when he was, and spouted off something  along the lines of “even a blind squirrel, gets a nut sometimes”,  or any other analogy that would fit!!


Simply put, John Carlson has obviously put the time in, AND Rierden had the foresight to make the call, to allow special training time at practice, for it to happen!!


Hands down, this training has really paid off!!
 In my opinion, I don’t think there’s anyway JOHN Carlson would have made that kind of quick, and coordinated move, to make that goal, just a couple seasons ago!! NO WAY!!


 Kudos to both Rierden, and Carly for a nicely coordinated job well done!!!


(Ok, he’s still a defensive pussy, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT)!!😁😆😁😆


 Every month, John Carlson continues to show the value he is to this team!


Rush 

Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:12:44 PM Eastern
What's happenin' Puck!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:15:43 PM Eastern
After a wicked game last night the Caps do not appear to be slowing down tonight.  Great to see this!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:17:24 PM Eastern
After a wicked game last night the Caps do not appear to be slowing down tonight.  Great to see this!


Amazing how they can look when they're not in the box all the time.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: HoustonCapsFan on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:17:26 PM Eastern
Hi all. I hate west coast games.   But we’re up so I wont gripe too much.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:18:39 PM Eastern
Carlson is improving his depussification.  Tonight he stood up in the face of an opponent and pretended he would fight.
 :snicker:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:21:21 PM Eastern
What's happenin' Puck!


Hey Mick!


 Just thought I’d try my slow typing ass on the GDT!
 Are we chuckling a little bit tonight? Or maybe a little bourbon, buddy?😂🤣


DC and I were just talking about you last week.
 I’ll go into detail later, but we are trying to work up something along the lines of getting a few folks on the board, together in January.  It’s in the early stages, but I’ll keep the board posted in the near future!!


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:24:02 PM Eastern
eyelids are getting heavy, may not make it to the end
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:26:47 PM Eastern
eyelids are getting heavy, may not make it to the end

Fight it baby, FIGHT!  You're part of the team!
 8)
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:27:01 PM Eastern
Carlson is improving his depussification.  Tonight he stood up in the face of an opponent and pretended he would fight.
 :snicker:


LMFAO, AJ!!😂🤣😂


 Although I was gritting my teeth, the truth had to be told about Carlson!!😂👍


 On a more serious note, The obvious work he’s put in on his offensive skills, may translate generally, in the physical, to improve his overall coordination and reaction time a little bit.  That certainly couldn’t hurt him on his defensive side!
(That and cancelling his Quaalude scrip)!!  BWAHAHA!


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:36:20 PM Eastern
Ziggy playing some markedly better defense


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:36:33 PM Eastern

LMFAO, AJ!!😂🤣😂


 Although I was gritting my teeth, the truth had to be told about Carlson!!😂👍


 On a more serious note, The obvious work he’s put in on his offensive skills, may translate generally, in the physical, to improve his overall coordination and reaction time a little bit.  That certainly couldn’t hurt him on his defensive side!
(That and cancelling his Quaalude scrip)!!  BWAHAHA!


Rush


 :lol:

Gotta admit, haven't seen any sign of Quaaludes in the boy this year.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:43:20 PM Eastern
Obviously the coaches this year have worked the boys with some intense stick handling and passing drills.  The Caps have never on their best days in the past had these skills at the level they display nearly every game this year.  They are scary good. I can say I have never seen any other team look this good.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:45:39 PM Eastern

 :lol:

Gotta admit, haven't seen any sign of Quaaludes in the boy this year.


Rierden has solved and countered the Quaalude issue;
(Trainer sprinkles meth into Carly’s bong water, when he’s out skating pre game, warm-ups)!!😂😂😂


Rush 

Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:49:17 PM Eastern
times like this I wish I had a twitter account, I've some choice words for this johhny for norris thing
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:51:30 PM Eastern
I am happy for Carly, But to watch that Rob Carlin get so excited, when talking about him and the Norris,  I believe he wants to have Carlson’s baby!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:56:48 PM Eastern
times like this I wish I had a twitter account, I've some choice words for this johhny for norris thing


 I’m definitely with you on that, Alta!


The scary reality though, with todays’ NHL, It’s not like the Norris goes to the guy with the most hits, or blocked shots, or takeaways, anymore.  It’s getting more like he just has to have the title of “defenseman“.  Whether he’s a fourth forward or not.
 Offensive points matter, for the Norris trophy! Now isn’t that a paradox??


Rush 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday December 04, 2019, 11:57:39 PM Eastern

Hey Mick!

 Are we chuckling a little bit tonight? Or maybe a little bourbon, buddy?😂🤣


Uh, Yes!!  :snicker:  Good to see on the board buddy!!


Gotta finish this kill.. First 5 minutes of the 3rd is big!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:00:28 AM Eastern

Uh, Yes!!  :snicker:  Good to see on the board buddy!!


Gotta finish this kill.. First 5 minutes of the 3rd is big!


LMFAO!! You go, bro!!


2 goal lead going into the third, I totally agree with you, Mick!
 Caps kind of sort of started look at a little sloppy right there at the end of the second!
 Your call on the first five minutes is spot on !


Rush 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:02:41 AM Eastern
 :poop:

WTF was Sammy thinking?

Does Samsonov get an assist for that?
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:04:10 AM Eastern
Well  :poop: Samsonov gave em life..
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:04:18 AM Eastern
Samsonov got a little complacent there, And it cost him a possible shut out!
He’ll remember that one for quite a while, and hopefully learn a big lesson!


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:12:55 AM Eastern
Which Capital is the spider when faced with a confrontation?

https://i.imgur.com/ZwxoDVn.gifv
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:17:50 AM Eastern
Which Capital is the spider when faced with a confrontation?

https://i.imgur.com/ZwxoDVn.gifv (https://i.imgur.com/ZwxoDVn.gifv)


Cool vid!!


 I believe I saw a faded #74 on its abdomen!!😂🤣


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:26:24 AM Eastern
 Glad to see the penalty against LA.
 CAPS started looking a little tired. Will need this two minutes, and a PP goal would help!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:28:02 AM Eastern

Cool vid!!


 I believe I saw a faded #74 on its abdomen!!😂🤣


Rush

In yellow, of course!
 :snicker:
You win the Internet for December 5th.

I'm not really that down on Carlson for the not fighting thing. Some guys are obviously not cut out  for it.  I call them gentle lentils.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:34:24 AM Eastern
 :43:


ENG
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:36:14 AM Eastern
 I thought Kuznetsov score of the ENG also.
 Looks like it was Willy!


That was actually an excellent shot
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:36:31 AM Eastern
:cw:

(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fscoring_summary.gif&hash=e4c44b0c35837704bf29d0ee1ad212f9)

1st Period
04:36  GOAL 74-Carlson, unassisted   1-0 WSH
13:27  GOAL 74-Carlson, assists 77-Oshie & 20-Eller   2-0 WSH

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
03:20  Kings GOAL Lizotte unassisted   2-1 WSH
18:41  EN GOAL 43-Wilson, unassisted   3-1 WSH

FINAL:    3-1 WSH
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:37:17 AM Eastern
 Good win, AGAIN!
 Thanks, as always, AJ, for the GDT!👍
 Good night everyone 


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:38:29 AM Eastern
Good night guys!

 8)
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:39:40 AM Eastern
Good night!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:40:07 AM Eastern
Solid win! Night folks!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:41:56 AM Eastern
In yellow, of course!
 :snicker:
You win the Internet for December 5th.

I'm not really that down on Carlson for the not fighting thing. Some guys are obviously not cut out  for it.  I call them gentle lentils.


Probably wouldn’t bother me as much either, if he didn’t try to get an Oscar,  for appearing like he wants to fight!! 😆😆


 Here we go again, with Rob Carlin!!  I swear I’m gonna mail that guy a photo chopped, nude photo of John Carlson,  with some fake sticky stuff on it!!!
 I’m sure he’ll think it’s a Christmas present from a fan !!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:49:42 AM Eastern

Probably wouldn’t bother me as much either, if he didn’t try to get an Oscar,  for appearing like he wants to fight!! 😆😆


 Here we go again, with Rob Carlin!!  I swear I’m gonna mail that guy a photo chopped, nude photo of John Carlson,  with some fake sticky stuff on it!!!
 I’m sure he’ll think it’s a Christmas present from a fan !!

Make sure you add REALLY HEAVY eye liner on John Carlson's photo.

 :snicker:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:53:40 AM Eastern
I actually met Rob Carlin last year in PWC lounge,  during intermission at a game!
Nice guy,  but yes, the male make up was very heavy!
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 05, 2019, 08:39:44 AM Eastern
#Johnny4norris   :snicker: Laugh all you want, but he's the front runner at the moment..  :uh-huh:   :raspberry:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 11:03:37 AM Eastern
Hey folks!


Rush, (aka molasses thumbs), here, attempting to keep pace on the GDT!


In the heavily popular, “lip service” world, that NHL coaches have to play in occasionally, with the media, It is so cool to witness, in real time, evidence, proving that an aspect of something they’ve been working on has now began to bear fruit!!


Enter coach Rierden, and his declaration, during preseason this year, that the coaches would be working with John Carlson on his offensive skills!!


 A few seasons ago, had I witnessed a goal similar to John Carlson‘s 2nd goal tonight, I would’ve blabbed on about what a crappy defenseman when he was, and spouted off something  along the lines of “even a blind squirrel, gets a nut sometimes”,  or any other analogy that would fit!!


Simply put, John Carlson has obviously put the time in, AND Rierden had the foresight to make the call, to allow special training time at practice, for it to happen!!


Hands down, this training has really paid off!!
 In my opinion, I don’t think there’s anyway JOHN Carlson would have made that kind of quick, and coordinated move, to make that goal, just a couple seasons ago!! NO WAY!!


 Kudos to both Rierden, and Carly for a nicely coordinated job well done!!!


(Ok, he’s still a defensive pussy, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT)!!😁😆😁😆


 Every month, John Carlson continues to show the value he is to this team!


Rush


Somebody hijacked RUSH's login again?  ;)
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 11:16:01 AM Eastern
Well, as usual, I started watching the game late.....20m or so after actual start and caught up by the end of the first.


Caps look sharp in the first....that's about all I can say as I slept through the rest.


I see the Carlson for Norris campaign is now in full swing.  Only a matter of time I guess.


I'm not knocking Johhny, he has improved his overall game and certainly is having a record season of offense so kudos to him.  I realize the game is changing and you need puck moving D men who score, but we need a different trophy for the most offensive d-man, then one that claims the best DEFENSEMEN


Wonder what guys like Rod Langway feel about o-guys like Johhny Q leading the pack for the Norris.




I think I'd really be okay with calling Johhny Q "the most offensive Dman in the league"   :snicker:


Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:49:31 PM Eastern

 I’m definitely with you on that, Alta!


The scary reality though, with todays’ NHL, It’s not like the Norris goes to the guy with the most hits, or blocked shots, or takeaways, anymore.  It’s getting more like he just has to have the title of “defenseman“.  Whether he’s a fourth forward or not.
 Offensive points matter, for the Norris trophy! Now isn’t that a paradox??


Rush


Rich just said what I'm thinking. There should be two different trophy's for dmen, like the Rocket and Hart for forewards. The Norris goes to the leagues top defenseman. I don't expect a top defenseman to have a lot of points/goals. Johnnys game has definitely improved, but on the offensive side more than the defensive side. If he weren't scoring would he still be getting all this praise from the media? Or would he be scorned for being an overpaid dman
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Thursday December 05, 2019, 02:22:52 PM Eastern
The idea that Carlson is simply an offensive defenseman is not true.  If he is so bad defending why does Rierden have him out there at the end of games when the Caps are protecting a 1 goal lead?  The fact is that Carlson is solid defensively, he is rarely out of position and you never see him get beat by an onrushing forward.  He is very good at tying up opposing players sticks and neutralizing them.  While he may not throw a lot of hits he is one of the leaders in blocking shots.  He is a good all around defenseman and the Caps are fortunate to have him. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Thursday December 05, 2019, 02:53:12 PM Eastern
I didn't say he was a bad dman, I said he's not a Norris candidate dman
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Thursday December 05, 2019, 03:10:48 PM Eastern
The Norris trophy is given to the best all around defenseman.  IMO he certainly quailfies as one of the best all around defenseman.  I will wait to the end of the season before I say who I think should win it but certainly at this point in the season Carlson is the leading candidate. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 04:56:21 PM Eastern
The Norris trophy is given to the best all around defenseman.  IMO he certainly quailfies as one of the best all around offensive defenseman.  I will wait to the end of the season before I say who I think should win it but certainly at this point in the season Carlson is the leading candidate....for "the most Offensive defensemen"


Fixed it for you  :P
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 05:28:48 PM Eastern
Just being a smartass BTW in my previous post.


Carlson had long been on my shit/trade list because he was so friggin marshmallow and seemingly stoned 24/7 in both his play and overall demeanor.   I believed he should have been traded while his trade value was way higher than his actual team value (in years past)
I will admit (and have begrudgingly stated many times over the last several seasons) he has radically improved his play in the last 3, 4 seasons, improving each year in both his offensive and defensive play.  He used to be at best an average dman with some offensive skills.  Through coaching or work ethic or study or maturity or combination of all, he certainly has improved his overall game on both the offensive and defensive sides.  I have actually even seen him play with more physical edge than years past.  Although I believe this year is somewhat of an anomaly, he has become one of the best offensive dmen in the league.


I personally don't feel that makes him a candidate for the Norris trophy.  I realize in today's standards that simply based on his offensive output, he will be a front runner in the Norris discussion.
However, call me old school or stubborn or whatnot, but I do not believe he is the leagues "TOP PLAYER WHO DEMONSTRATES THE GREATEST ALL-ROUND ABILITY IN THE POSITION".  He is certainly the best offensive player in the position this year so far, but not the greatest all-round ability in the position which is who the Norris Trophy is (should be) awarded to.


I am not arguing he is not great.  He is a great skilled player.  He has steadily and mightily improved his overall game each of the last several seasons.  He is having a phenomenal year.  He has a huge impact on his team's success.  He is one of the most valuable assets having the very best season of his career on the best team in hockey.  That does not equal Norris Trophy winner.  I'd be more in favor of voting him MVP over Norris candidate.  I'm not down on him or trying to argue semantics, but he is not a GREAT defensive player.  He certainly is not THE greatest defensive player.  Is he great?  Yes.  Do I want him on my team?  Yes.  Is he a good defensemen?....Yes.  He d skills have improved mightily.  He O skills even more so.  Still does not make him the best defensemen in the league.


Maybe I am wrong in my understanding of what a the best defensemen is?  Maybe I'm just too old school.  (Maybe I played D 9 years and only scored a handful of goals and I'm just jealous  :snicker: [size=78%] )[/size]


Either way, glad to be having this discussion rather than one about tossing Johnny Q Dylan into the volcano

Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Thursday December 05, 2019, 05:36:14 PM Eastern
I'll ask one more time and see if anyone will actually answer me..

If Carlson wasn't scoring would he still be getting all this praise in the media? Or would he scorned for being an over paid dman?

                    goals   assists
Carlson            11       31
Kempny            3         9
Orlov                2         9
Seigenthaler      1         4
Gudas                0         7
Jensen                0         2


                       
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 05, 2019, 05:37:10 PM Eastern
Whens the last time the norris winner wasn't an offensive D man?   :huh: Besides, he's the best defensive defenseman on our defensive hockey team, so don't be getting all defensive!  :rofl:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Thursday December 05, 2019, 05:58:48 PM Eastern
Richkrt99, by your standards who do you think deserves the Norris trophy now.  Give me some names so we can compare them to Carlson. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 06:01:21 PM Eastern
Whens the last time the norris winner wasn't an offensive D man?   :huh: Besides, he's the best defensive defenseman on our defensive hockey team, so don't be getting all defensive!  :rofl:




I take offense to that  :snicker:


And I already said I'm happy to oblige Johhny Q the new title of "the most offensive defenseman".  I find him to be truly offensive






And the Norris should be awarded to defensive guys like.....Bobby Orr, and ....er, um....Ray Bourque, and um....
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Ozzies09tc on Thursday December 05, 2019, 06:03:16 PM Eastern
Isnt Johnny Norris also going against the top lines of the opposing teams and shutting them down?


I mean he is a +21 this year and a +101 on his career
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 06:36:36 PM Eastern
Isnt Johnny Norris also going against the top lines of the opposing teams and shutting them down?


I mean he is a +21 this year and a +101 on his career


That's Johhny Q Norris to you buddy

Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday December 05, 2019, 07:41:59 PM Eastern

I take offense to that  :snicker:


 :rofl:
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 08:42:45 PM Eastern
The idea that Carlson is simply an offensive defenseman is not true.  If he is so bad defending why does Rierden have him out there at the end of games when the Caps are protecting a 1 goal lead?  The fact is that Carlson is solid defensively, he is rarely out of position and you never see him get beat by an onrushing forward.  He is very good at tying up opposing players sticks and neutralizing them.  While he may not throw a lot of hits he is one of the leaders in blocking shots.  He is a good all around defenseman and the Caps are fortunate to have him.


With the utmost respect 4Caps, I will disagree.
Not 100%, but certainly with much of the assertion that Carlson is a “solid”, defenseman.


**I interpret “solid”, for a DEFENSEMAN, as meaning FAIRLY well-rounded, in ALL the aspects of hockey defensive skills, maneuvers, and tactics. OR; said another way, “ALL AROUND”, fairly good or decent. SLIGHTLY ABOVE, in some areas, and also SLIGHTLY BELOW, in other areas, but still decently adequate, in all phases of hockey defense!**


If you will grant me the above paragraph, as a definition of “SOLID”, as a DEFENSEMAN, (which is a pretty fair one, IMO), then my disagreement remains, and I can proceed with my supportive points.
If it is NOT a definition, that is at least, close to what you define as “SOLID”, then you might as well skip my reasoning that follows, as it may skirt the edges of validity, for you.


I will proceed, assuming we have the same rough idea of what solid defenseman means:  (I’ll try to go point by point, from your post).



1) Rierden using Carlson in final minutes of a close game:


Ok, well I say, minimal logic there, 4 Caps.  Rierden also uses Ovi in final minutes of a close game, and Ovi is about as defensively responsible as my granddaughter! I will grant you that Carlsons bring up passes have ever so slightly improved, BUT, in the very situations you describe, I observe Carlson as the “Icing King”! Which ALWAYS brings back DANGEROUS face offs in our zone, AGAIN and AGAIN!


I am NOT talking about icing the puck, as an intelligent, LAST RESORT, tactic, when the opponent is cycling well, creating some defensive confusion, and amid an onslaught of SOG’s coming at our goalie, in the last minute or so of the game.  THAT WOULD BE SMART!!


I AM talking about the ridiculously, habitual, ICING, in the last minute or two, where we see Carlson, singularly, with an adequate amount of time and space, to do otherwise, makes that all too familiar, panicky ICING pass, PRECISELY because he DOESNT PERCEIVE, that he actually DOES have time for other options. He has either become CONFUSED, or SCARED that he’s about to get hit, OR BOTH!!
This phenomena happens often enough to be NOTEWORTHY, and is certainly not “SOLID”, or in any way defensively responsible!


2) Carlson rarely out of position/never beat by onrushing forward:


Are we talking Carlsons  NHL CAREER, as a DEFENSEMAN, or just the microscopic view of 1/3 of his 2019 season!


Two words; CARLSONS ASS!!  The biggest and best SCREEN to Holtbys view, in Caps history! In the language of Carlson...guarding the crease! LOL!
Kidding aside, follow Carlson fully, in the crease one time, and tell me, ANYONE PLEASE, how many times he is in such a good “position”, as to win MORE of the crease battles than he LOSES. He almost NEVER wins a crease battle!
This is NOT a “SOLID” defenseman characteristic!!


As far as onrushing forwards, 4Caps, I’ll grant that it’s happening less this year, that he gets beat. Much of this however, is due to Carlsons different offensive role, nowadays.
Once over the blue line, Carlson, now, receives training to routinely, shoot deeper into the zone, for more scoring opportunities, THUS, a forward, (Backy, Vrana, Oshie, etc), must drop back to cover, HENCE, Carlson is not in the situation to be onrushed, by a good outlet pass from the opponent, as often!


Now, If we look at JUST last season, I can easily count two or three instances, two of them, for either a game tying, or game winning goal, where Carlson was in perfect position, at, or just after the blue line, where the forward DID have the onrush, with Carlson RIGHT in front of him, and that forward simply shot, AND MADE, the goal, as if Carlson was NO IMPEDIMENT whatsoever.
Holtby was partially to blame, but in NO way, would any “SOLID” defenseman, have allowed such a shot to be taken, with that most minuscule amount of interference to the shot!  This can be attributed to John Carlsons famous aversion to physical contact, PERIOD!  Solid defenseman??? Hardly!


3)Tying up opponents sticks, and neutralizing them:


Carlsons ONE and only defensive weapon, the poke check! I’ll give PARTIAL credit, here. When the defensive posture situation CALLS for a poke check, then YES, Carlson does well! Even SOLID, I’ll give you that.


The problem is Carlson employs the poke check FAR TOO OFTEN, ( its all he knows), OR, even better, all that he is COMFORTABLE with doing!  Most other defensive tactics require some level of PHYSICALITY! (That’s just not in the Carlson repertoire).
And let’s not get started on how often Carlson employees the poke check, when a better tactic should have been used, and our opponents get to set up nicely in our zone, resulting in a great chance SOG!!
Partial SOLID, for the poke check, only!


4) Not the best at throwing hits:


Huge understatement 4Caps. He’s 6’3”, 215. If he was even SLIGHTLY UNDER the average, of 1st line defenseman, of his general size, I’d give the guy a break. He was in the bottom 1/3 of hits for the entire team last year if I’m not mistaken.
Couple that, however, with his overall UN-willingness to be physical, generally speaking, and you’ve got nothing but a proven pussy! I say it all the time.


Throw in his media-touted, TOI statistics, and make it, hits / per minutes played, well.... honestly, my friend you don’t want to go there! It’s laughable! Occupying near the basement of the team , and nowhere in the realm of SOLID!!


5) Blocked shots:


This one... WE AGREE!👍 Totally SOLID!!
Fewer, so far, this year, but probably his BEST defensive strongpoint!
However, one small bird turd of a point on this one. Most of Carlson‘s blocked shots are due to his stick blockage, as opposed to body shots. In this case, good for him, because he can be effective at it without using his body!
Firmly in the SOLID category here!!


6) And finally, “Caps are fortunate to have him”!


Truer words have never been said 4Caps, AND, as I’ve also posted, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with you!!👍👍😁😁
We simply differ on how we come to that conclusion.


He’s an offensive production MACHINE! (That’s why), IMO.


NOT A SOLID DEFENSEMAN!


Radco Gudas is a SOLID defenseman!  And yes, the caps are fortunate to have him too.


I Agree to disagree, my friend! The REASONS why The Caps are fortunate to have John Carlson, are an extremely small matter in the greater scheme of all things Capitals!


We are both glad that we have John Carlson on our team! Even more awesome is just how damn good this capitals team is becoming!. I mean, WOW!  It’s pretty scary, buddy! And I like it!


Rush















Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday December 05, 2019, 08:58:24 PM Eastern
Let me add that I just saw all the debating post about John Carlson and the Norris trophy, while my slow hands were typing my lengthy response to 4CAPS’s post.


In my opinion, it IS fair to say that Johnny Q, at least at this point, is the most likely candidate for the Norris trophy. Mickstix is right In saying that the Norris trophy does go to the highest scoring defenseman!


Alta makes a great point that they’re ought to be two different defenseman trophies. Hell, I’d go with that.


Tough to argue, in my book though that Carlsen is the best defensive defenseman on our team. I’ll give you Gudas and Kempny for starters.  Very responsible DEFENSEMEN!


John Carlson is an overwhelming, offensive production nightmare for any of our opponents, Period!
It is also the MAJOR reason he is such a value to our team, Period! Let’s not kid ourselves folks


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday December 05, 2019, 11:50:44 PM Eastern
Let me suggest this to our conversation about the best all around player at his position....(which is what the Norris is awarded for)
If we put forth that Johnny Q Norris Carlson is the leading candidate for the Norris trophy because of his offensive abilities (when the trophy is supposed to go to the all around best defenseman at the position....
Then I suggest by that standard that Alex Ovechkin is the best all-around forward in the league. He is by far the most prolific and successful goal scorer on the planet in the last two decades. He is a fantastic goal scorer AND is in the top 5 or so in Hits in the league since he’s been in the NHL.
I love having him on my team and he has been at times the MVP of the team and the league
BUT...(everyone I know has a really big but) I don’t know anyone who knows hockey well that would say Ovie is the best overall player at his position in the entire league and award him that trophy.
Ovi is great but he is not the best overall player at his position.


Again I am not knocking Carlson or disagreeing that he is a great player, I am saying his offensive prowess does not make him a great (much less the best) defensman in the league.


Jesus Rush, I thought I was a blabber-thumbs  ;D
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Friday December 06, 2019, 04:00:47 AM Eastern
Let me suggest this to our conversation about the best all around player at his position....(which is what the Norris is awarded for)
If we put forth that Johnny Q Norris Carlson is the leading candidate for the Norris trophy because of his offensive abilities (when the trophy is supposed to go to the all around best defenseman at the position....
Then I suggest by that standard that Alex Ovechkin is the best all-around forward in the league. He is by far the most prolific and successful goal scorer on the planet in the last two decades. He is a fantastic goal scorer AND is in the top 5 or so in Hits in the league since he’s been in the NHL.
I love having him on my team and he has been at times the MVP of the team and the league
BUT...(everyone I know has a really big but) I don’t know anyone who knows hockey well that would say Ovie is the best overall player at his position in the entire league and award him that trophy.
Ovi is great but he is not the best overall player at his position.


Again I am not knocking Carlson or disagreeing that he is a great player, I am saying his offensive prowess does not make him a great (much less the best) defensman in the league.


Jesus Rush, I thought I was a blabber-thumbs  ;D


Hey Rich!
Had to frickin rise early this AM.  I’m part time at a local golf course, and they want me in at 5 AM this morning!  (Sucks)


You may be able to lay claim to being the more prolific of us two, “long-winded”, members. You’re on the board a little more often than I am!👍😁
 But I think I get the award for the more annoying lengthy posts! 😂🤣😂😂
Hell, sometimes when reviewing my own posts,  before throwing it to the board,  I’ll be like “is this the freaking post I wrote? “ “ oh yeah, yeah it IS,....Man I can be one over-spoken SOB!” 😆


 And while I’m making my coffee this morning, let me make a few corrections to that post!


 I believe YOU were the one Rich, that suggested there be two Norris type trophies! (Great idea).
 And good ol’ Mickstix,  did NOT say that the Norris trophy goes to the highest scoring defenseman.  I think he meant that the Norris trophy, in recent history, has been awarded to offensive defensemen!
Sorry guys for the misquote!


And 4Caps, Rich is right. I definitely could have condensed my response down a bit!
(A little lighter on the exaggerations, and small sarcasms, for starters)!
I’ve shared with you before, 4Caps, that yours is the higher mentality, when it comes to accepting, and rolling with the changes in today’s NHL hockey.  I’ve been much slower to come around,  and admittedly it gets in the way of some of my peace about it!


 In my book, you’re one of the most appreciated members here!👍👍


 Got to get on the road this morning!


Rush



Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Friday December 06, 2019, 12:58:33 PM Eastern
Rush we will have to agree to disagree as to Carlson’s defensive abilities, what is important is that we agree that the Caps are fortunate to have him on our team. 


What I really want to know is why a golf course needs you there at 5:00 a.m. what do you do at that time of day. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Friday December 06, 2019, 01:23:35 PM Eastern
Rush we will have to agree to disagree as to Carlson’s defensive abilities, what is important is that we agree that the Caps are fortunate to have him on our team. 


What I really want to know is why a golf course needs you there at 5:00 a.m. what do you do at that time of day.


I’m a starter one day a week, every Friday. On a day with higher morning teetimes like this morning because of the temperatures were going to be above 50, we have to get 80 to 90 golf carts out on the line, Set up the driving range, and get the water jugs out and certain holes. Then I’ve got to be on the first tee checking off guys by 7 AM.
It’s actually a great retirement job for me, and I get free golf privileges at five of the courses in the area in the Rasberry Golf system.


You’re right about the Carlsen thing, buddy. The important thing is he’s a valuable for the team and our team is doing awesome


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Friday December 06, 2019, 04:00:08 PM Eastern

I’m a starter one day a week, every Friday. On a day with higher morning teetimes like this morning because of the temperatures were going to be above 50, we have to get 80 to 90 golf carts out on the line, Set up the driving range, and get the water jugs out and certain holes. Then I’ve got to be on the first tee checking off guys by 7 AM.
It’s actually a great retirement job for me, and I get free golf privileges at five of the courses in the area in the Rasberry Golf system.


You’re right about the Carlsen thing, buddy. The important thing is he’s a valuable for the team and our team is doing awesome


Rush
I would never have imagined that there are that many dedicated golfers in this area whowould be teeing off at 7:00 a.m. in December.  While the temperature may reach 50 this afternoon it sure wasn’t that this morning.   I am impressed.  I can understand why you would need to be there at 5:00 in the morning during the summer but not in the winter.  The sun doesn’t even rise until after 7:00 a.m.   
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Friday December 06, 2019, 11:37:27 PM Eastern
I would never have imagined that there are that many dedicated golfers in this area whowould be teeing off at 7:00 a.m. in December.  While the temperature may reach 50 this afternoon it sure wasn’t that this morning.   I am impressed.  I can understand why you would need to be there at 5:00 in the morning during the summer but not in the winter.  The sun doesn’t even rise until after 7:00 a.m.


I get your point!
 From about mid November until the end of December, we have those on and off days where it can go from all or nothing as far as Golf is concerned!


 I, personally will play at 45° outside, if it’s not windy. And I’m not a diehard!  I am at a semi private course, where we have quite a reliable number of old-timers that get together every morning, want their carts out there, and would prefer to be able to tee off at sunrise.


 As of right now, the course doesn’t permit golf before 7 AM. The sun comes up prior to that, and we actually get complaints from our members who want to tee off at 6:30 or 645, and don’t mind the frustration of having to find their golf ball in partial light!


Us old timer/retirees get paid just above minimum-wage, and are really only there because of the golf privileges.  The course knows this, and bases their decision on whether they need a starter on, if there are more than 50 golfers on the tee sheet before 12 noon!
 This threshold, varies among golf courses, but during the primetime months of golf, it’s never a question.


 Fridays seem to be a more popular day, than the other weekdays, for those who feel they want to make a teetime at the end of the week!  If the weather is marginal!


 Although we had 80 to 90 on the tee sheet for today, about 1/3 of those canceled, and truth be told I really didn’t even have to go in!
And I would have preferred not to, but in this special time, in the beginning of the off-season,  management knows that us part timers, come quite cheap,  at minimum wage . It is nothing for them to ask us to show up anyway, for a few hours in the morning!


 My only solace, besides twiddling my thumbs with boredom today, is that I get all the free coffee I can handle, and a couple of breakfast sandwiches on the house!


 Obviously it pays off later, when golf season begins again next March.
 Once January starts, I probably won’t be called in ever, except for a weather anomaly, until mid March!  Then, of course, I make sure I get my free golf in! LOL


Rush



Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Friday December 06, 2019, 11:39:31 PM Eastern
 And by the way 4CAPS,  if you ever wanted to get out on one of the raspberry system courses just let me know, via private message or whatever, and I can work it out for you!


Rush
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: 4 Caps on Saturday December 07, 2019, 12:01:20 AM Eastern
And by the way 4CAPS,  if you ever wanted to get out on one of the raspberry system courses just let me know, via private message or whatever, and I can work it out for you!


Rush
Rush thanks for the offer, I appreciate it but I am not really much of a golfer.  About the only time I play is when we go on vacation in Minnesota.  Just curious, what are some of the courses in the rasberry system.  I am only familiar with some of the courses in Fairfax county. 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Saturday December 07, 2019, 01:10:50 AM Eastern
Rush thanks for the offer, I appreciate it but I am not really much of a golfer.  About the only time I play is when we go on vacation in Minnesota.  Just curious, what are some of the courses in the rasberry system.  I am only familiar with some of the courses in Fairfax county.


The Raspberry Group includes, Raspberry Falls in Leesburg/Ashburn, Bull Run in Haymarket, VA Golf Academy in Clifton, Old Hickory in Woodbridge, Augustine in Stafford, and other affiliates in Gettysburg, PA, and Bowling Green VA.


 I will frequent three or four of the above when spring and summer come around.


Rush



Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: KitFisto on Sunday December 08, 2019, 10:28:44 PM Eastern
The dislike for Carlson on this forum is ridiculous. People here loved to hate on this guy and now they are begrudgingly giving him some credit white still looking for ways to rip on him. This group has some of the most negative people I’ve ever seen. I barely come here anymore (not that anyone cares), but I pop back in and while the team is off to the best start in their history and Carlson is having an amazing season I see some people still finding ways to be negative.......amazing.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: alta on Monday December 09, 2019, 02:12:50 AM Eastern
what's amazing is how a question of whether or not he's a Norris candidate turns into a discussion of hate for the guy in some peoples eyes  ::)
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: ArJunaZ on Monday December 09, 2019, 04:10:33 PM Eastern
I don't think there is a member here that is not happy to have John Carlson on this team.  Some simply say he is not worthy of being called the best defenseman under the older definition of what that means, which is a shutdown defensive player. I think everyone here is in agreement that Carlson is the best offensive defenseman in the league.  It's not a black or white thing.
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday December 09, 2019, 04:21:36 PM Eastern
I don't think there is a member here that is not happy to have John Carlson on this team.  Some simply say he is not worthy of being called the best defenseman under the older definition of what that means, which is a shutdown defensive player. I think everyone here is in agreement that Carlson is the best offensive defenseman in the league.  It's not a black or white thing.


Great. 


You just had to go and make it racial.  :huh:


Now we're really gonna here it.


 :raspberry:

Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Monday December 09, 2019, 11:48:56 PM Eastern
The dislike for Carlson on this forum is ridiculous. People here loved to hate on this guy and now they are begrudgingly giving him some credit white still looking for ways to rip on him. This group has some of the most negative people I’ve ever seen. I barely come here anymore (not that anyone cares), but I pop back in and while the team is off to the best start in their history and Carlson is having an amazing season I see some people still finding ways to be negative.......amazing.


Hey Kit!
 I wanted to respond to your post, as I believe we’ve posted in the past, with each other, at least a time or two.  First off, I hope all is well with you, because it’s been a while.

I do respect your civility, and tact, in keeping anonymous, and not naming, those whom you feel are too negative on Carlson.  It’s suggestive of a generally caring and empathetic person.  Rare qualities in people these days, IMO, so thank you!


It’s probably not a stretch for me to assume that I’m one of those posters, that you’re talking about.  FWIW,  I take no offense from you posting your opinion.


I don’t feel, at all, that I “begrudgingly”, give Carlson his credit!


On the contrary, the credit I give to him, is given with complete sincerity, and with admiration for the VASTLY IMPROVED, offensive skills, which HE has chosen to put an abundant amount of EXTRA practice time into, for the RESULTS, that HE personally desires for himself, and his career direction, AND with coach RIERDENS’ obvious allowance, and blessing!!


 In short, JOHN CARLSON IS LIVING HIS DREAM!!  At least for his NHL hockey career!
Without a doubt, John Carlson is exceeding HIS COACHES expectations,  and playing at the pinnacle of TODAY’S NHL STANDARDS!


 I am absolutely, NOT BITTER, at all, at John Carlson for this achievement!  I’m happy about the great contribution his achievements add to our overall Capitals success, and truly hope he keeps it up!
Simple as that!!


 I also have a brain, surely like many others, that has the ability to simultaneously ponder, PARTITION, and separate, different feelings, ideas, and theories about all sorts of subjects in our world.  I imagine that you do also!


I’d kindly ask you to consider that, the possibility exists of being able to entertain opposing thoughts and ideas about a certain substantive issue, (in this case, Carlson)!


Specifically, and for clarity purposes, I feel that the MAJORITY of tactics used in Carlson’s defensive repertoire are quite BELOW AVERAGE, or ABSENT,  and even more so when you consider his physical size!!
 The fact that GMBM, and the coaching staff, have found creative ways to reduce the impact of Carlson‘s poor defensive skills, to the team, is a plus for both the CAPS and Carlson!!
 This is my opinion!!


 It is also my opinion, that whatever defensive shortcomings John Carlson has, through hard work with the teams coaches, he has become an incredible offensive threat to our opponents!!
 The magnitude of this threat, again, in my opinion, greatly outweighs the defensive consequences of him being on the ice!
 Even better, GMBM, the coaching staff, and the players, all seem to think so!!


IMHO,  both thoughts can be simultaneously true!!


 Respectfully, Kit, what is so negative about my way of thinking?
 Where is the begrudging credit, in those thoughts?


 Let me add also, sincerely, that I’m not trying to put anyone on the spot!
 Just trying to offer you support for my position!
Thanks Kit!  Good to see you on the board. Feel free to respond.


Rush


 








 
Title: Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Monday December 09, 2019, 11:53:41 PM Eastern

Great. 


You just had to go and make it racial.  :huh:


Now we're really gonna here it.


 :raspberry:


LMFAO, Rich!!


 I’m already hearing echoes of that famous duet from Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder...”Ebony and Ivory”!😂🤣😂🤣
 And if you remember that song buddy, we are freaking OLD, dude !!!


RUSH