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Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: BlackIce on Monday February 04, 2019, 12:38:55 PM Eastern
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Caps just extended Copley for 3 years at AAV of $1.1 million.
This is an interesting signing and signals the end of an era that has existed for more than a decade now. The Caps have been cycling through goalies, always having multiples around that were highly thought of, with both they and the organization thinking of them as potential starters. This has created some awkward playing time situations and has forced the organization's hand in moving some of them because otherwise they would leave, looking for a starting gig.
Copley is different. This extension, with his being age 27 and on the cusp of UFA status, seems to indicate that both he AND the organization consider him to be an acceptable backup goalie, but ONLY a backup. The contract gives the Caps stability and cost certainty in the backup position for the next few years, and will cause the organization to focus solely on their decision about how to handle the starting goaltending position. On the other hand, as long as Copley does a reasonably good job as a backup, he could also be moved pretty easily if another backup goalie (Vanacek??) could replace him for less money and the organization could make a good deal involving him since he isn't all that pricey.
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GMGMs Goalie Pipeline has (somehow) remained, that being said, a trade could be in the works.
This is a very tradable contract, and could be used as incentive to retain/eat salary in a deal for Copley.
This leaves us with Vaneek or Samsonsov as backups, or to deal while retaining a high quality backup.
But, don’t rule Holtby wanting out, this year and/or next, (I wouldn’t blame him in the least). Moving Holts could replinsh depth, picks, and cap space, while leaving us with Copley and good prospects.
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If they move Holts before Reirdon gets canned, I'd see that as an admission of failure
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If they move Holts before Reirdon gets canned, I'd see that as an admission of failure
ya never know.
https://youtu.be/-gxlO243ztE (https://youtu.be/-gxlO243ztE)
I don’t think they’ve left him in past 5, maybe 6, but Holtby has to be pissed about the pond hockey system, shitty D, inexcusable faceoffs, and PK that couldn’t keep stop a 12yo Coed Rec League powerplay.
Not to mention idiotic fans and media that blame him for having horrendous numbers this year.
But ya know, if you need 6 goals to win a fuckin game anyway, payin a goalie a lot is kinda pointless
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If they move Holts before Reirdon gets canned, I'd see that as an admission of failure
Why would they move Holtz? I don't see that happening.
You mean like admitting the season is over?
Also DC mentioned Holtz maybe wanting out?, but why would he? Holtz is just as much a part of this team debacle as anyone. And him maybe wanting out is pure conjecture. The team is not playing well, but it's not like they are TOTALLY off the rails and in the cellar (yet). Not like they have MISSED the playoffs (again...yet)
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Extending Copley definitely makes him/that an attractive trade chip..
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Why would they move Holtz? I don't see that happening.
You mean like admitting the season is over?
Also DC mentioned Holtz maybe wanting out?, but why would he? Holtz is just as much a part of this team debacle as anyone. And him maybe wanting out is pure conjecture. The team is not playing well, but it's not like they are TOTALLY off the rails and in the cellar (yet). Not like they have MISSED the playoffs (again...yet)
I stated it was a possibility, and a feesiblle one given this teams history of throwing him to the wolves and/or under the bus. So yes conjecture, certainly nothing that was reported.
However, extending a backup goalie, that was part of two of the biggest recent trades, after a very bad loosing streak, and when trades are heating up, is assuredly to be more than justr locking up a backup goalie for the playoffs, so everything should be at least considered.
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Another consideration that BMac mentioned is that in the summer of 2021 we will need to expose a goalie who is signed through the 2021-22 season in the expansion draft for Seattle. We will now be able to expose Copely. Holtby’s contract expires after next season as does Backstom’s so it may be hard to re-sign both of them and if Sansonov continues to play the way he has lately, the Caps may decide not to re-sign Holtby and go with Samsonov as the number 1 goalie.
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I stated it was a possibility, and a feesiblle one given this teams history of throwing him to the wolves and/or under the bus. So yes conjecture, certainly nothing that was reported.
However, extending a backup goalie, that was part of two of the biggest recent trades, after a very bad loosing streak, and when trades are heating up, is assuredly to be more than justr locking up a backup goalie for the playoffs, so everything should be at least considered.
Yeah, I here you, but Holtz is a fan favorite and if Monumental is all about marketing and image, trading Holtz would make them look bad..unless they pulled off some major blockbuster deal. (as if) :huh:
I have no problem with the $$/deal for Copley. Not sure why they would bother...Unless is he UFA next year and they just want to get it done? Seems like pretty bargain price from Caps end. Not sure how this is great from Copley perspective.
Sure as hell wish they would move Burka already, but looks like nobody wants him. I mean we could use the cap space and he is dead wood at this point. Maybe he should go dangle in Europe. He is just too soft on the puck for his size. Got some mean skills, but they aren't getting him anywhere without the proper attitude or coaching or teammates or whatever the hell would get him going. Time to cut bait with him has long past.
I don't see the Caps creating the cap space to make the trade they need (real D), so I don't expect much real movement from them by the trade deadline.
Maybe we can just give Burka, Smith-Pelly, Orlov, & Djoos to some team even-up trade, no money, no picks for.... a bag of NEW pucks. Four shiny Hockey Players for a bag of pucks....even a small bag...okay used pucks, we'll take a small bag of used pucks.
Imagine what we could do with Orlov & Burka salary. 5.1+3.25 = 8.35 mill/year. Hell, we could get another Carlson for that :raspberry: Smith Pelly was a fair price at 1mil. I have no issue with that except that he has become (or always was) Mr Stonehands. He does bring some physical play though, so I'm not so down on him. Oh, and the caps are celebrating "Hockey is for everyone" and Black History month now, so we can't trade away our token player. (WHERE's the GASP/SHOCKED face emoji?)
It annoys my anal retentive ass to no end that the text size and font shrinks when I hit the back space key. Don't you people know some of us make mistakes while typing and SOME (ahem..DC...cough, cough)of us actually want to correct it so we can get our very important opinions across to others (Ō_ƆŎ)
I can't believe all the happy hype talk (even on these boards) about Djoos getting close to coming back. So what? The guy is a waif. Has no business in the NHL. I'd stick with Ziggy at this point over Djoos. Ziggs definitely needs some work and experience, but he is three years younger than Djoos and outweighs him by 40 lbs. Either that or Djoos seriously needs a trainer so he can bulk up in the off season to a whopping 175 (oohhhh....scary - I'm sure McDavid is quaking in his boots just thinking about it)
Peace out Peeps.
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They need to trade for someone who can win a fucking faceoff every once in a while..
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They need to trade for someone who can win a fucking faceoff every once in a while..
speaking of which, Beags is back in town
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I think the Copley extension is a steal. If you take away one bad game, when the whole team stunk, he has been really good this year. I'm not sure why Copley would sign that deal.
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Yeah, I here you, but Holtz is a fan favorite and if Monumental is all about marketing and image, trading Holtz would make them look bad..unless they pulled off some major blockbuster deal. (as if) :huh:
I have no problem with the $$/deal for Copley. Not sure why they would bother...Unless is he UFA next year and they just want to get it done? Seems like pretty bargain price from Caps end. Not sure how this is great from Copley perspective.
Sure as hell wish they would move Burka already, but looks like nobody wants him. I mean we could use the cap space and he is dead wood at this point. Maybe he should go dangle in Europe. He is just too soft on the puck for his size. Got some mean skills, but they aren't getting him anywhere without the proper attitude or coaching or teammates or whatever the hell would get him going. Time to cut bait with him has long past.
I don't see the Caps creating the cap space to make the trade they need (real D), so I don't expect much real movement from them by the trade deadline.
Maybe we can just give Burka, Smith-Pelly, Orlov, & Djoos to some team even-up trade, no money, no picks for.... a bag of NEW pucks. Four shiny Hockey Players for a bag of pucks....even a small bag...okay used pucks, we'll take a small bag of used pucks.
Imagine what we could do with Orlov & Burka salary. 5.1+3.25 = 8.35 mill/year. Hell, we could get another Carlson for that :raspberry: Smith Pelly was a fair price at 1mil. I have no issue with that except that he has become (or always was) Mr Stonehands. He does bring some physical play though, so I'm not so down on him. Oh, and the caps are celebrating "Hockey is for everyone" and Black History month now, so we can't trade away our token player. (WHERE's the GASP/SHOCKED face emoji?)
It annoys my anal retentive ass to no end that the text size and font shrinks when I hit the back space key. Don't you people know some of us make mistakes while typing and SOME (ahem..DC...cough, cough)of us actually want to correct it so we can get our very important opinions across to others (Ō_ƆŎ)
I can't believe all the happy hype talk (even on these boards) about Djoos getting close to coming back. So what? The guy is a waif. Has no business in the NHL. I'd stick with Ziggy at this point over Djoos. Ziggs definitely needs some work and experience, but he is three years younger than Djoos and outweighs him by 40 lbs. Either that or Djoos seriously needs a trainer so he can bulk up in the off season to a whopping 175 (oohhhh....scary - I'm sure McDavid is quaking in his boots just thinking about it)
Peace out Peeps.
want to? 90% sure they wouldn’t, after all he’s the primary reason we have a Cup and are in a playoff spot.
That being said, as in the Roy video, he could be the one wanting out. I mean shit his coach
his hone, the organization doesn’t give two shits about helping him, and the pond hockey system leaves him out to dry. This is killing his numbers and reputation, not mention the chances of multiple Cups.
if I was Holtby or his agent, I’d be wanting out of a place that’s using him to make other players look better at the cost of my/my clients stats and contract value.
(As for the fonts, I’m not sure why they’re changing like that (that’s Arj), but to fix just go through and the font commands ie [font]
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speaking of which, Beags is back in town
Watch him hit 80% on faceoffs 🤣🤣🤣
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(WHERE's the GASP/SHOCKED face emoji?)
It annoys my anal retentive ass to no end that the text size and font shrinks when I hit the back space key. Don't you people know some of us make mistakes while typing and SOME (ahem..DC...cough, cough)of us actually want to correct it so we can get our very important opinions across to others :raised-eyebrow:
This is the Shocked Face emoji.
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There is also this OMG! emoji on the "[more]" popup window.
:omg:
Regarding your font changing when you hit backspace. I never have that issue, nor can I replicate it. The only way I can see the font "changing" when you backspace is if you backspace across the transition from one font to another font. This is not really changing, but only picking up the font type at the point you stopped backspacing. One easy way to avoid issues is to type your message and make your font changes at the end. You have to really be careful if you cut and paste text of various font types around in your post. This can start to confuse the editor. The best thing is to keep it simple. Making font changes at the end will prevent any issues.
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I liked Grubauer.
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This is the Shocked Face emoji.
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There is also this OMG! emoji on the "[more]" popup window.
:omg:
Regarding your font changing when you hit backspace. I never have that issue, nor can I replicate it. The only way I can see the font "changing" when you backspace is if you backspace across the transition from one font to another font. This is not really changing, but only picking up the font type at the point you stopped backspacing. One easy way to avoid issues is to type your message and make your font changes at the end. You have to really be careful if you cut and paste text of various font types around in your post. This can start to confuse the editor. The best thing is to keep it simple. Making font changes at the end will prevent any issues.
I don't make font changes. I just type and rant and rant and rant and type and then want to change something
like when i have multiple lines of rant (I mean hard, honest fact-based opinion) and then somewhere I decided to delete a space between like two lines of text
so i go to the end of say line 3 of text and hit delete key to delete a blank space before line 4
and it reduces all the text following where I hit the delete key to a minute size too small to read
so then I go back and manual change the font size to make it big enough to see.
I am on my PC at work - using google Chrome (if that matters at all)
Lets see if this works.... :b:
[size=78%]I will leave a blank space above and keep typing and[/size]
[size=78%]then I will go back and hit delete key. [/size] :angry:
See. It shrank the text. Well it appears it is larger, but usually it is so small you can't see it (insert your own image here)
It also changes the font.
I did not do anything except delete a blank space (line)
Oh and thanks....I always forget about the "more" emojis.
One thing at a time...just trying to stay ahead of Lil with my computer tech saavy :uh-huh:
Hi Lil :hearts:
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I liked Grubauer.
so does Colorado 😁
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I don't make font changes. I just type and rant and rant and rant and type and then want to change something
like when i have multiple lines of rant (I mean hard, honest fact-based opinion) and then somewhere I decided to delete a space between like two lines of text
so i go to the end of say line 3 of text and hit delete key to delete a blank space before line 4
and it reduces all the text following where I hit the delete key to a minute size too small to read
so then I go back and manual change the font size to make it big enough to see.
I am on my PC at work - using google Chrome (if that matters at all)
Lets see if this works.... :b:
[size=78%]I will leave a blank space above and keep typing and[/size]
[size=78%]then I will go back and hit delete key. [/size] :angry:
See. It shrank the text. Well it appears it is larger, but usually it is so small you can't see it (insert your own image here)
It also changes the font.
I did not do anything except delete a blank space (line)
Oh and thanks....I always forget about the "more" emojis.
One thing at a time...just trying to stay ahead of Lil with my computer tech saavy :uh-huh:
Hi Lil :hearts:
the backspace font change happens to me too with an iPad. I don't know why.
and now of course I can't duplicate it
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the backspace font change happens to me too with an iPad. I don't know why.
and now of course I can't duplicate it
:lmao:
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I don't make font changes. I just type and rant and rant and rant and type and then want to change something
like when i have multiple lines of rant (I mean hard, honest fact-based opinion) and then somewhere I decided to delete a space between like two lines of text
so i go to the end of say line 3 of text and hit delete key to delete a blank space before line 4
and it reduces all the text following where I hit the delete key to a minute size too small to read
so then I go back and manual change the font size to make it big enough to see.
I am on my PC at work - using google Chrome (if that matters at all)
Lets see if this works.... :b:
[size=78%]I will leave a blank space above and keep typing and[/size]
[size=78%]then I will go back and hit delete key. [/size] :angry:
See. It shrank the text. Well it appears it is larger, but usually it is so small you can't see it (insert your own image here)
It also changes the font.
I did not do anything except delete a blank space (line)
Oh and thanks....I always forget about the "more" emojis.
One thing at a time...just trying to stay ahead of Lil with my computer tech saavy :uh-huh:
Hi Lil :hearts:
:snicker: :snicker: :snicker: Happy to spread my joy. :uh-huh:
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I liked Grubauer.
Me too.
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This is the Shocked Face emoji.
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There is also this OMG! emoji on the "[more]" popup window.
:omg:
Regarding your font changing when you hit backspace. I never have that issue, nor can I replicate it. The only way I can see the font "changing" when you backspace is if you backspace across the transition from one font to another font. This is not really changing, but only picking up the font type at the point you stopped backspacing. One easy way to avoid issues is to type your message and make your font changes at the end. You have to really be careful if you cut and paste text of various font types around in your post. This can start to confuse the editor. The best thing is to keep it simple. Making font changes at the end will prevent any issues.
FWIW AJ, happens to me too! I finish the text. Then go back and edit, or backspace, maybe add a comma, or something, and the rest of the sentence in the paragraph shrinks the size of the letters. Then, when I actually post it, it say that 78% stuff, that I don’t understand.
Not that big a deal to me, but if it’s correctable, that would be cool!
Rush
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Let me add also that it doesn’t occur all the time. It’s the randomness that is hard to figure out!
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Let me add also that it doesn’t occur all the time. It’s the randomness that is hard to figure out!
did you have breakfast on the beach?
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The font changes happens.only with iOS, I dont think [size=78%]there’s a way around it[/size]
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The font changes happens.only with iOS, I dont think [size=78%]there’s a way around it[/size]
Happens to me on my PC - Windows/Chrome
[size=78%]WHenever I het the backspace key between lines of text[/size]
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did you have breakfast on the beach?
Hey Alta!
Honest answer is that I never got outta bed before 10:45-11:00, except one day! My sons had me slam a few extras with their buds. Old man pride was the only reason I was able to half keep up with them! LOL. I did pay the physical price, though, for sure!
Rush
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The font changes happens.only with iOS, I dont think [size=78%]there’s a way around it[/size]
Yeah DC. I use an iPhone 6.
Thanks for the info.
Not a biggy.
Rush
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Text Fudge happens on PC/Chrome and Edge as well.. If you go back into edit (modify) you can remove the codes, highlight the text then change the font size to get it back to normal.. If you so choose.. Sometimes it's fubar but most times a quick edit will correct it or at least make it readable. The hard part is highlighting just the tinyasssfuckingtext so you can edit it. Usually it's so small it just looks like a little solid line..
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Well, for those of you looking for more ruggedness on the blue line, Dion Phaneuf's future with the Kings is looking cloudy. You can have him for a mere $7 million AAV.
For those who complain about bad contracts that the Caps had/have on the books, try this one on for size.
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I'd offer an even trade, Carlson for Phaneuf and still trade Bura off. That should leave enough room to pick up another half decent Dman
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I'd offer an even trade, Carlson for Phaneuf and still trade Bura off. That should leave enough room to pick up another half decent Dman
You me, and 29 GMs would trade Carlson for Phanuef, particularly when most of the other Dman are 5th forwards
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I'd offer an even trade, Carlson for Phaneuf and still trade Bura off. That should leave enough room to pick up another half decent Dman
You cannot be serious.
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You cannot be serious.
your account was opened from a MD location so I know this isn't Maaco.
Why can't I be serious? I don't see an $8M a year player in Carlson.
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your account was opened from a MD location so I know this isn't Maaco.
Why can't I be serious? I don't see an $8M a year player in Carlson.
Phaneuf isn't a $7 player any more, let alone a $7 million player. Lots of hockey players reach a point where they lose what capabilities they had and fall off the map. Phaneuf is seemingly in that death spiral now. No GM with ANY sanity would trade Carlson for him straight up.
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Phaneuf isn't a $7 player any more, let alone a $7 million player. Lots of hockey players reach a point where they lose what capabilities they had and fall off the map. Phaneuf is seemingly in that death spiral now. No GM with ANY sanity would trade Carlson for him straight up.
There is a reason none of us are GMs. That doesn't mean we can't have a valid opinion. I have noticed I'm not the only one that feels this way about Carlson, yet for some reason I am the only one that gets called out for having a low opinion of him. Has Carlson looked like an $8M a year player this season? My opinion is not even remotely. Which makes it an even trade for someone who would be a lower cap hit that actually plays defense. If not an even trade, how else do you get rid of an over payed player?
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So what you are saying is that we should trade a defenseman who many people who follow hockey closely consider to be one of the top 5 or 6 defenseman in the entire league for a defenseman who isn’t even one of the top 6 defenseman for a team that has one of the worse records in the league. That makes a lot of sense, not.
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here’s a compromise then:
Carlson for Bret Burns straight up. Salaries are even, but SJS would hang up the phone on us
Burns is a not only superior Dman but a superior total player to Carlson.
And it’s more than his 10points more. it’s that he actually plays D, and generally excellently. He’s also a physical specimen at 6”5 230
At 8mil. Burns is a STEAL.