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Title: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 12:22:01 PM Eastern
January 3 vs Sabres at Capital One Arena
Time: 7:00
TV: NBCSW
RADIO: 106.7 FM

Washington Capitals 21-13-5
PP% 21.9(17th)  PK% 81.3(11th)  Faceoff% 48.8(21st) 
Buffalo Sabres 18-15-2
PP% 28(3rd)  PK% 72.9(27th)  Faceoff% 32.1(32nd)   

Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Kuznetsov 92 - Sheary 73
Milano 15 - Strome 17 - Mantha 39
Johansson 90 - Eller 20 - Oshie 77
Protas 59 - Dowd 26 - Hathaway 21

Gustafsson 56 - van Riemsdyk 57
Orlov(A) 9 - Jensen 3
Fehervary 42 - Irwin 52

Kuemper 35

PP1: Ovechkin, Oshie, Strome, Kuznetsov, Gustafsson
PP2: Sheary, Orlov

scratched:
Lindgren 79 - backup
Alexeyev 27
Snively 91
Aubé-Kubel 96

IR/LTIR:
Backstrom 19 - hip
Brown 28 - knee
Wilson 43 - knee
Malenstyn 47 - hand
Hagelin 62 - hip
Carlson 74 - face

Sabres anticipated lines:
Skinner 53 - Thompson 72 - Tuch 89
Peterka 77 - Cozens 24 - Quinn 22
Mittlestadt 37 - Jost 17 - Olofsson 71
Girgensons(A) 28 - Krebs 19 - Okposo(C) 21

Samuelsson 23 - Dahlin(A) 26
Power 25 - Clague 38
Bryson 78 - Lyubushkin 46

Luukkonen 1
Anderson 41 - backup

Tonight’s zebras:
Mitch Dunning 20, Steve Kozari 40
CJ Murray 68, Travis Toomey 90

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-host-sabres/c-339449516 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-host-sabres/c-339449516)

scoring summary
1st period:
Tuch from Thompson and Skinner at 10:48
Milano(6) from Mantha(13) and Irwin(2) at 12:07
Thompson PPG from Dahlin and Cozens at 17:29
2nd period:
Thompson from Tuch and Lyubushkin at 5:50
Ovechkin(27) from Kuznetsov(28) at 16:46
3rd period:
Dowd(10) from Milano(12) at :55
Ovechkin(28) from Sheary(16) at 7:10
Jost from Mittlestadt and Power at 11:42
OT:
Thompson from Tuch at 3:00

Caps lose 5-4
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 04:36:19 PM Eastern
Oshie, but no Big Willy?  Bummer.  Thought we'd see him this game.
The Sabres are the second only to Boston for most goals in the in the league? :huh:


Go Caps!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 05:56:39 PM Eastern
So how are we going to be in cap trouble when our guys come back?  Didn't we get cap relief for those high dollar guys while they were out on LTIR?  Isn't that how Tampa worked the system a couple years ago?
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: BlackIce on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 06:16:52 PM Eastern
So how are we going to be in cap trouble when our guys come back?  Didn't we get cap relief for those high dollar guys while they were out on LTIR?  Isn't that how Tampa worked the system a couple years ago?


OK, so here's how it goes, as I understand it.


As long as one or more players are out on LTIR, the team gets a cap exemption, day by day, equal to the salary(its) of the players on the reserve list.  That means that the team can bring up replacement players to fill the roster and go over the salary cap on any given day by the amount of the salaries of the LTIR players on that day.  However, the team never "banks" any dollars of cap relief. As players come off LTIR, from that day forward the LTIR exemption shrinks by the salary of the reinstated player(s), until finally, when the last player comes off LTIR, the team must conform to the salary cap with its roster of eligible players from that point forward.


The one thing to note about the salary cap, however, is that it is in effect ONLY for the regular season.  Once the playoffs start there is no salary cap any more.  Thus, a few years ago Tampa kept Nikita Kucherov on LTIR throughout the entire regular season, thus maintaining his large salary as a buffer to go over the salary cap all season.  Then they activated him for the playoffs.


The key to the Caps' salary cap situation is entirely tied up with Backstrom.  We've heard that he is on the road back.  We've heard he most likely can't play this season.  We've heard that he is unlikely to play ever again.  As Pontius Pilate said, "What is Truth?"  As long as Backstrom and his huge, $9 million + salary remains on LTIR, the Caps are probably OK with regard to the salary cap.  If Backstrom returns before the end of the regular season though (along with Wilson et. al.) then the Caps may have real salary cap issues.  Hagelin's contract isn't big enough to absorb all the overages that the Caps have been running with the players they've brought up.  He can't absorb much if all other LTIR players return to the ice
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:04:18 PM Eastern

OK, so here's how it goes, as I understand it.


As long as one or more players are out on LTIR, the team gets a cap exemption, day by day, equal to the salary(its) of the players on the reserve list.  That means that the team can bring up replacement players to fill the roster and go over the salary cap on any given day by the amount of the salaries of the LTIR players on that day.  However, the team never "banks" any dollars of cap relief. As players come off LTIR, from that day forward the LTIR exemption shrinks by the salary of the reinstated player(s), until finally, when the last player comes off LTIR, the team must conform to the salary cap with its roster of eligible players from that point forward.


The one thing to note about the salary cap, however, is that it is in effect ONLY for the regular season.  Once the playoffs start there is no salary cap any more.  Thus, a few years ago Tampa kept Nikita Kucherov on LTIR throughout the entire regular season, thus maintaining his large salary as a buffer to go over the salary cap all season.  Then they activated him for the playoffs.


The key to the Caps' salary cap situation is entirely tied up with Backstrom.  We've heard that he is on the road back.  We've heard he most likely can't play this season.  We've heard that he is unlikely to play ever again.  As Pontius Pilate said, "What is Truth?"  As long as Backstrom and his huge, $9 million + salary remains on LTIR, the Caps are probably OK with regard to the salary cap.  If Backstrom returns before the end of the regular season though (along with Wilson et. al.) then the Caps may have real salary cap issues.  Hagelin's contract isn't big enough to absorb all the overages that the Caps have been running with the players they've brought up.  He can't absorb much if all other LTIR players return to the ice


WOW!
What an incredibly concise explanation to a very complicated scenario.   It finally makes sense to me.   :lol:
You should be a teacher.   Or a coach......
Thanks.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:05:11 PM Eastern
Morning chaps.    :wackysmile: Let's hope we carry on where we left off the last game......
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:20:26 PM Eastern
Mornin Lil!


Too much time in the wrong end of the rink so far..
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:23:42 PM Eastern
Wonder how many home games they've played this year, where they actually wore red?  :huh:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:24:18 PM Eastern
I think we need to try to be a little more sneaky...... :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:26:13 PM Eastern
Wonder how many home games they've played this year, where they actually wore red?  :huh:

Yeah.  I'm not a big fan of all this new stuff.  It confuses me and let's face it, I get easily confused these days. :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:27:26 PM Eastern
quick game so far
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:28:36 PM Eastern
 :poop:

 :clown: :O=
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:29:09 PM Eastern
 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:30:46 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

MILANOOOOOOO
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:33:35 PM Eastern
Yeah baby.  I LIKE this kid!
I'm a few minutes behind you guys, as usual.   
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:43:07 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop:


 :clown: :O=
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:46:04 PM Eastern
Having a few tech issues.  Not about the link per se.  It's een happening all day.
K is looking slow again tonight.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:46:48 PM Eastern
Gonna get run out of the building if we don't dry up the slop. Playing like dog  :poop: so far.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:47:48 PM Eastern
Having a few tech issues.  Not about the link per se.  It's een happening all day.
K is looking slow again tonight.


Might be the stream too. My feed (DirecTV/NHL Center ice) is freezing and going blank. Did it 3x in the first period.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 07:56:49 PM Eastern

Might be the stream too. My feed (DirecTV/NHL Center ice) is freezing and going blank. Did it 3x in the first period.

Mine's been sketchy all day.  Any and all internet connection.  Done the offy / onny thing a couple of times now.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:13:29 PM Eastern
 :O= :O= :O=

 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:15:12 PM Eastern
S'not looking good.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:30:18 PM Eastern
Yep, one of those games. 2 on 1 and can't even get off an actual shot.  :O=
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:34:37 PM Eastern
Gonna be a long night.    :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:37:14 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

OVECHKIIIIIIIIN
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:37:24 PM Eastern
At least we have OVI!!!!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:37:39 PM Eastern
that was sweet
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:39:28 PM Eastern
C'mon fellas.
WAKE UP!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:39:50 PM Eastern
Caps have been gaining momentum for several minutes now, taint over yet
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 08:40:54 PM Eastern
Thar she blows!
 :snicker:

 :B:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:03:47 PM Eastern
NO DOWDER
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:06:40 PM Eastern
Alta called it.  We're not done yet.   ;)
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:14:40 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

OVECHKIIIIIIIIN
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:18:43 PM Eastern
OOOH BABY, BABY!
 :wow:

 :tws: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:21:39 PM Eastern
 :O= :O= :O= :O=


 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:24:30 PM Eastern
BOOO HISSSS
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:38:16 PM Eastern
phuk
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: BlackIce on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:40:35 PM Eastern
Yeah.  I'm not a big fan of all this new stuff.  It confuses me and let's face it, I get easily confused these days. :uh-huh:




Management does not care how understanding or confused you are about all the different uniforms.  They simply want you to buy one [or more] of each.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:44:24 PM Eastern
great PK, hope it pays off
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:46:26 PM Eastern



Management does not care how understanding or confused you are about all the different uniforms.  They simply want you to buy one [or more] of each.

I know this.  It is a total insult to the legions of fans who joined, or were born into the "ROCK THE RED" era.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:47:01 PM Eastern
phukin joke, that two OTs with two major mistakes
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:48:09 PM Eastern
Way to go Lard!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:48:32 PM Eastern
PHUK.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:51:26 PM Eastern
Way to go Lard!

I assume you are using that name for Special K now, 'cos he is as slow as........ :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:52:46 PM Eastern
You just know that Lars is gonna do something stupid in OT.


Also, Mantha is a waste of a jersey. Ya, he made one assist, but he just cruises around with very little effort - and maybe the coaches should just have him practice his breakaway at every practice - maybe he could at least hit the net.




Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:56:10 PM Eastern
Meh.  It's not all bad.
We squeezed a point and the Big Man scored  a brace.
After the euphoria of the last game, I was kind of expecting a huge let down. 

We didnt start well, but we picked it up and showed some resilience and fight.
I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:57:30 PM Eastern
Could of been worse. Down 2 in the 2nd, still got a point. Hate to waste a W, but we weren't sharp for a bunch of that game. I was surprised we clawed back into it.


Mantha would be good for our cap space if we could move him and possibly get a draft pick or something. Lard too for that matter, huh Lil?  :raspberry: :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:57:38 PM Eastern
Didn't see 77 at all.  Did he even touch the ice?
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 09:58:19 PM Eastern
Could of been worse. Down 2 in the 2nd, still got a point. Hate to waste a W, but we weren't sharp for a bunch of that game. I was surprised we clawed back into it.


Mantha would be good for our cap space if we could move him and possibly get a draft pick or something. Lard too for that matter, huh Lil?  :raspberry: :snicker:

 :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:00:48 PM Eastern
You just know that Lars is gonna do something stupid in OT.


Also, Mantha is a waste of a jersey. Ya, he made one assist, but he just cruises around with very little effort - and maybe the coaches should just have him practice his breakaway at every practice - maybe he could at least hit the net.

OUCH!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:06:39 PM Eastern
Could of been worse. Down 2 in the 2nd, still got a point. Hate to waste a W, but we weren't sharp for a bunch of that game. I was surprised we clawed back into it.


Mantha would be good for our cap space if we could move him and possibly get a draft pick or something. Lard too for that matter, huh Lil?  :raspberry: :snicker:

I swear, if I ever go back over to 'Merica,  I will pay for you to attend a game.  Just so's I can berate you in person!
 :raspberry:
 
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Surreylily on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:10:51 PM Eastern
Night, night, my deranged and demented friends.   :yawn: Sweet dreams.

Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:11:29 PM Eastern
 :rofl:  What'd I do??
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:11:52 PM Eastern
Night.


See ya Thursday!
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:13:48 PM Eastern
got a point at least


 :-|
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday January 03, 2023, 10:44:36 PM Eastern
They were God awful in their own zone all game.  Way too much time and space for Buffalo and lots of standing around in front of Kuemper.  We were lucky to get a point although I thought we might pull it out at 4-3.  Once it was OT I figured we'd lose.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: richkrt99 on Wednesday January 04, 2023, 12:03:33 PM Eastern
ditto to what Wayne said.


Lucky to get a point...got my hopes up when we actually clawed back in....was praying it didn't go to OT....then praying it would.  ;D   I thought the tripping call on Kuzy was a cheapie...ESPECIALLY at that point in the game when there had been what 1 penalty all night?  It certainly could have been called, but I didn't think it should've been.


Dumb mistake but Lars and Kuemper both in OT, but let's face it - this team SUCKS at 3 on 3 OT.  Was kind of hoping we get to the shootout and that WE'D see MILANO or somebody with a chance to actually score in a shootout.


Buffalo is the highest scoring team in the league (or maybe 2nd), so I figured we'd have trouble with their speed....also been figuring on that big let down game and thought this was it after the 1st, but give the guys some credit for sacking up and storming back.


And I don't know what kind of supplements that old fucker Ovi is taking, but I need some.  His scoring certainly hasn't slowed down this year.
Title: Re: GDT #40 Caps vs Sabres
Post by: alta on Wednesday January 04, 2023, 03:35:32 PM Eastern
I’m ok with that call on Kuzy, if he just skated into the guy and didn’t make that slight kick I think it would have been a bs call. I blame Kuzy for doing it with time running out.