| :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström | :spacer50pix: 77-Oshie |
| :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana | :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov | :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson |
| :spacer50pix: 10-Connolly | :spacer50pix: 20-Eller | :spacer50pix: 25-Smith-Pelly |
| :spacer50pix: 23-Jaskin | :spacer50pix: 26-Dowd | :spacer50pix: 72-Boyd |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 6-Kempny | :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov | :spacer50pix: 2-Niskanen |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 23-Jaskin | :spacer50pix: 22-Bowey |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby (starter) |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 1-Copley |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 65-Burakovsky |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 18-Stephenson |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 78-Lewington |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 44-Orpik (Knee Surgery, 1-2 weeks before return) |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 29-Djoos (Thigh Surgery, many weeks before return) |
| :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov | :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström | :spacer50pix: 77-Oshie |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
| :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana | :spacer50pix: 20-Eller | :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 2-Niskanen | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov |
I believe Jaskin is starting in place of Stephenson based on the morning skate as reported by Isabelle.
when mulberry coached he did send out a goon line with intent to injure someone, he hasn’t matured any since thenand sure as hell likes to cry when someone else does
Orpik has started skating
Next! :uh-huh:Wooooooo I loved that. Wilson taking out their tough guy.
Ovie did nothing to deserve a penalty. Refs are a joke!One of the refs is Kevin Bollocks. Expect much more of the same... ::)
Ovie did nothing to deserve a penalty. Refs are a joke!The punched Letang in the face. He was more physical then Letang was. I was fine with offsetting penalties.
Willy just got out of the box and got escorted to the benchWhat fool :stirringupshit: is going to challenge him next? :lmao:
The punched Letang in the face. He was more physical then Letang was. I was fine with offsetting penalties.
HAH Pierre just said Nisjy and Orlov where the. most underrated pairs in the league 🤣🤣Apparently he hasn't watched us much because they have been awful.
who made that dumbassed drop pass before the commercial??
Penalties.. Need to smarten up.We need to target the cunt Hornquist while Olesniak is seeing stars
I really enjoyed that first period. Strong board battles with the edge there going to the Caps IMO. Very physical. As expected.
The KO of Oleksiak by Wilson was just perfect after the NBC fight instigation.
could you by chance post that video for those of us that weren’t by a tv for pregame?
i don’t know if I’ve ever seen a game where everyone grabbin their face every 2 min
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Du0tVKxW0AEZeXV.jpg):lmao: :clap: 8)
Just watched that fight again, Willie under his reach to surprise him with punches to the back of the head with a cut and knockoutI agree. I guess he didnt like Rutherford's comments.
Willie clearly had this planned . . . excellent!
Honestly, we look like 3 day rust to me. Little adrenalin push at the start, but since the 2nd penalty we took we've just looked so so.Keep going Micky, it's working. ;)
Keep going Micky, it's working. ;)
Holy shit. Did you know that there was something called a 'long change' in the second period of hockey games? Thank God for NBC for telling me that, over and over again.
Rusty rusty rusty.. :wackysmile:Meh. Looks lie the magic's worn off already. :-X
When’s the last time 92 scored?Goal on December 2 in 2nd period Ducks @ Caps where he also had an assist on Wilson's 1st period goal.
Orlov's about to start getting on my nerves.. Is he good at anything? Makes too much money to just be a liability..Yup.Instead of trying to force feed Ovi, I'd like to see Nicky take a few shots, maybe have Ovi go to the net. Gotta keep them on their toes.
I was wondering why Holtby was almost at the bench when the horn sounded.. Looks like we'll get to waste 2 more minutes when the 3rd starts..
And there’s a typical Pittsburgh goal against us.Yeah, clearing the crease is apparently “not part of today’s NHL”
Yeah, clearing the crease is apparently “not part of today’s NHL”
Yeah, clearing the crease is apparently “not part of today’s NHL”Hell no. That takes too much effort.
Our D is suspect.DC and I have been preaching about our suspect D
Kessel shoulda gotten a game-misconduct for that pussy shit
Oh well, one of them nights.. :poop:
How was that “incidental”???There was no way it was incidental. He ran over Holtby on his own.
that was a goalOverhead shot, that puck never got over the line. Unlucky.
It was an excellent exiting game to watch. It came down to puck luck. We just didn't get the bounces and the Hens did.Agreed. That was pretty much the difference. Murray was very lucky tonight.
Heck of a game though.
I think Carlson might be hurt. There were a lot of times that he needed to skate hard to get in position and make a play, but he couldn't do it. Maybe a slight hamstring or something because he definitely would have tried if he could.
When did Carlson get hurt/look gimpy? I didn't notice.. I thought Orlov looked slow a couple times. Have a little forward depth but the D could get sketchy in a hurry.. Orpik can't get healthy soon enough.
I think Carlson might be hurt. There were a lot of times that he needed to skate hard to get in position and make a play, but he couldn't do it. Maybe a slight hamstring or something because he definitely would have tried if he could.He plays a lot of minutes.
When did Carlson get hurt/look gimpy? I didn't notice.. I thought Orlov looked slow a couple times. Have a little forward depth but the D could get sketchy in a hurry.. Orpik can't get healthy soon enough.If Bura will be traded, we need to add a capable D.
He plays a lot of minutes.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1075560596920299520 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1075560596920299520)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1075562952177172481 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1075562952177172481)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpTAvvwJTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqpTAvvwJTg)
https://youtu.be/eY-5XXQyOGk (https://youtu.be/eY-5XXQyOGk)
thanks, what did they say about the KO?
The outcome sucked but the game itself wasnt bad. We got beat on puck luck this game. Murray got beat so many times but the puck just wouldnt go in for us. Our dcore was a bit shaky again. No one really stood out this game. Holtby was probably our best player. Ovi was good but couldn't buy a goal.Yeah, much better than they have been overall.
I'd like to see Reirden mix up the lines a bit. I think Wilson should be with Ivi and Backstrom and Oshie on the Kuzy line.
Yeah, much better than they have been overall.
The Hens strategies really haven't changed against us, and they've been very successful against us. However I do wonder why the hell the Caps refuse to adjust to defend the Hens strategy of crowding the Holtby and getting tap-in/ugly goals.
This has been highly effective against our pond hockey systems, and got them both of their goals last night, and was only really stopped in the playoffs when we went to a lock against them and stopped it.
Regardless, this was worth the two points:
https://youtu.be/eY-5XXQyOGk (https://youtu.be/eY-5XXQyOGk)
Hey DC!
Watching him try to check Hornquist, or anyone else in front of the net, is like watching a dog dealing with a housefly! He has NO effect on clearing the crease! At 6’3”, 215, it’s even more lame than average!!👎👎
To be fair, #74 isn’t the only one guilty of this, and Orlov has been really bad all
season, so far!
Yeah, much better than they have been overall.None of our dmen clear the crease. Maybe Orpik when he is healthy. That is another lost skill in the NHL. Dmen aren't really allowed to clear the crease anymore. I see Rush is on a Carlson rant again. Not sure why I'd single him out. He isn't the only one. I dont think he was responsible for either of the goals against. I'm not giving him a free pass but he isnt more guilty than anyone else.
The Hens strategies really haven't changed against us, and they've been very successful against us. However I do wonder why the hell the Caps refuse to adjust to defend the Hens strategy of crowding the Holtby and getting tap-in/ugly goals.
This has been highly effective against our pond hockey systems, and got them both of their goals last night, and was only really stopped in the playoffs when we went to a lock against them and stopped it.
Regardless, this was worth the two points:
https://youtu.be/eY-5XXQyOGk (https://youtu.be/eY-5XXQyOGk)
Hi Lil !!!!
Happy Birthday
Rush - you wrong on one point - Carlson did not "try" to clear the crease! He just stood around. Pitiful. I don't know why Holtby doesn't get on him. Oh well, at least he is consistent and we know what to expect.
None of our dmen clear the crease. Maybe Orpik when he is healthy. That is another lost skill in the NHL. Dmen aren't really allowed to clear the crease anymore. I see Rush is on a Carlson rant again. Not sure why I'd single him out. He isn't the only one. I dont think he was responsible for either of the goals against. I'm not giving him a free pass but he isnt more guilty than anyone else.
And I agree with DC. Wilson knocking out Olesiak made my night. I'm not upset about the loss.
There is an answer and I have it to you. None of our dmen clear the crease. It is becoming quite common around the league. Because of rules changes clearing the crease has become a lost skill. That is the excuse.
Maaco, I didn’t single Carlson out at all! Reread the post, please and you’ll see!
But for a guy who rags on Djoos for his smaller stature, then what is Carlson’s excuse at 6’ 3”, 215lbs??
Answer: THERE ISN’T ONE!!
Yes, none of our guys are good at crease clearing, but Carlson is the hands down, absolute best, at obstructing Holby’s view with his ASS, as he slowly “guards” the crease, actually assisting our opponents!
I certainly agree with, and respect, your very vocal appreciation, here on the boards, for the D men that play “heavy and physical”!! You say this ALL THE TIME, and again I agree with that sentiment!
HOW THEN, do you explain not only your like for Carlson’s offensive production, but also you like his DEFENSE!! I’ll never understand your logic on that!!
Rush
There is an answer and I have it to you. None of our dmen clear the crease. It is becoming quite common around the league. Because of rules changes clearing the crease has become a lost skill. That is the excuse.There’s more and more evidence that the faggy-effeminate softness that is ruining this sport is just a trend and it’s beginning to swing back.
Sorry Rush but that's the direction the game is going. I dont like it any better than you do. I'm not defending Carlson for his softness. For today's game his defensive play isnt bad. He plays the way most defence men play. Even the best defensive dmen in the league now are known for their ability to clear the crease.
I think you are comparing Carlson s defensive play to guys from the past but if you compare him to present dmen he is average. Maybe even above. There are a lot of poor defensive defence men in the league right now. Look at our team. Believe it or not Carlson is probably our best dman in our end this year. Its supposed to be Niskanen but he has been awful this year. Orlov has been worse. Kempny has been alright but he is very soft himself. He has been getting beat in the defensive and has been taking penalties because of it. Bowey and Siegenthaler are still young and making mistakes but they are progressing. I think Bowey is showing signs that he can be a physical dman.
The Caps aren't the only team with soft dmen. Even Hedman in Tampa isnt really a physical dman. If he was it would be down right scarey. There are very few Shea Weber type dmen left in the NHL.
You want to know my theory on Carlson. I think he is excellent offensively. And I think he is better than average defensively when compared to other dmen around the league now. He could be better. He has the size to be a dominant dman in this league.
And I think the league is getting sifter every year. The new dmen aren't big, physical, defensive dmen. They are soft puck moving dmen and guys that skate well.
Rush the game is changing quickly in front of our eyes. Ive really noticed the difference the past couple if years. Its not easy for us dinosaurs to accept.
The trend in the NHL is for forwards and dmen to be interchangeable. You see more and more defenseman carrying the puck up the ice and a forward will cover for the defenseman. Despite what DC thinks the game is not going back to the old style.And it’s just that: a little trend. About the same as boybands
There is an answer and I have it to you. None of our dmen clear the crease. It is becoming quite common around the league. Because of rules changes clearing the crease has become a lost skill. That is the excuse.
Sorry Rush but that's the direction the game is going. I dont like it any better than you do. I'm not defending Carlson for his softness. For today's game his defensive play isnt bad. He plays the way most defence men play. Even the best defensive dmen in the league now are known for their ability to clear the crease.
I think you are comparing Carlson s defensive play to guys from the past but if you compare him to present dmen he is average. Maybe even above. There are a lot of poor defensive defence men in the league right now. Look at our team. Believe it or not Carlson is probably our best dman in our end this year. Its supposed to be Niskanen but he has been awful this year. Orlov has been worse. Kempny has been alright but he is very soft himself. He has been getting beat in the defensive and has been taking penalties because of it. Bowey and Siegenthaler are still young and making mistakes but they are progressing. I think Bowey is showing signs that he can be a physical dman.
The Caps aren't the only team with soft dmen. Even Hedman in Tampa isnt really a physical dman. If he was it would be down right scarey. There are very few Shea Weber type dmen left in the NHL.
You want to know my theory on Carlson. I think he is excellent offensively. And I think he is better than average defensively when compared to other dmen around the league now. He could be better. He has the size to be a dominant dman in this league.
And I think the league is getting sifter every year. The new dmen aren't big, physical, defensive dmen. They are soft puck moving dmen and guys that skate well.
Rush the game is changing quickly in front of our eyes. Ive really noticed the difference the past couple if years. Its not easy for us dinosaurs to accept.
It isn't that Carlson is playing better or worse than our other defenseman, its that Carlson has the body, the skills and the potential to play significantly better than he does. He could clear the crease if he wanted. He could play more physical if he wanted. He could skate faster to get to pucks or save time if he wanted. The fact that he plays a lot of minutes is not a valid excuse for any of this.Carlson has the skill and physique to be a dominant 2way dman. I dont think its lack of hockey IQ. I would say laziness and lack of intensity.
Its either lack of desire, lack of hockey IQ, or both that keeps him from being one of the top defensemen in the league. Very frustrating.
Careful what you wish for with Carlson.. He decides to "get physical" and in a few years we could be stuck with an 8 million dollar injury prone D man.. That contract is looooooong..That is true. I think my point is that Carlson is very good offensively and he is playing decent in our end as well. For some reason he is under a microscope here. Its not enough that he is one of the best offensive dmen in the league but he has to be an elite shutdown dman too to satisfy certain people. We could do a lot worse.
That is true. I think my point is that Carlson is very good offensively and he is playing decent in our end as well. For some reason he is under a microscope here. Its not enough that he is one of the best offensive dmen in the league but he has to be an elite shutdown dman too to satisfy certain people. We could do a lot worse.
That is true. I think my point is that Carlson is very good offensively and he is playing decent in our end as well. For some reason he is under a microscope here. Its not enough that he is one of the best offensive dmen in the league but he has to be an elite shutdown dman too to satisfy certain people. We could do a lot worse.
Yea, I've no problem with Carlson this year.. I like when he decides to use his size, but like I said, careful what you wish for.. If he gets put under the scope, I imagine it's because he's like the 2nd highest paid guy on the team. Comes with the territory. Orlov is the one that's starting to get my attention. 5 mil a year (5 years experience) and he looks no better than guys who've not even had a full year of experience. He'll become the next Burt if he's not careful.
Hey Mick, I’ve actually grown to accept Carlson on the team, (and I’ve stated that a few times this year).
Rierden has helped spell it ok for me a bit. Recently, He mentions how the coaches work privately with Carlson, (to my surprise), on his offensive shooting, and ways he can skate, stealthily, to other areas in the zone, for better shooting chances!
When I first heard Rierden say it, I admit it took me back a bit, but after thinking through it, I came to the following conclusions which helped me to accept and support #74!
1) Carly is NOT going anywhere, anytime soon.
2) He possesses a good array of offensive weapons, and uses them for good production numbers.
3) He is good in the community
4) He is well-liked by his team mates
5) He blocks a lot of shots
5) Rierden accepts his overall contribution, and is working to enhance the skills he has, in particular, offensively!
When I stepped back and took a second look this September, I realized that the TEAM moves in the direction of keeping him offensively sharp., as the MAIN EMPHASIS! But that also means that they “understand” and accept the delicate balance with his defensive skills.
To avoid driving myself berserk, everytime I see him go slow, lazy, dumb defensive play, or whatever, I too, like the team, decided to keep my opinion balanced, with his offensive production.
So now I’m ok with accepting Carlson. I will still call him out, but I praise him also!
I’m not going to give in to being miserable, over one player, for the next 8 years!!😂🤣🤣
Rush
Puck - I too get frustrated with Carlson in the D-zone and sometimes with his wide right shots from the slot, but your last sentence was perfect. I don't have the time or energy to spend bitching about him for 8 years.