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Title: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 02:17:40 PM Eastern
April 6 vs Canadiens at Bell Cantre
Time: 7:00
TV: NBCSW
Radio: 106.7 104.5 FM

Washington Capitals 34-34-9
PP% 21.4(15th)  PK% 82.6(6th)  Faceoff% 50.2(17th)
Montreal Canadiens 30-42-6
PP% 16.9(28th)  PK% 72.9(30th)  Faceoff% 48.6(25th)


Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8 - Strome 17 - Wilson 43
Milano 15 - Backstrom 19 - Protas 59
Sheary 73 - Kuznetsov 92 - Smith 16
                  Dowd 26 - Aubé-Kubel 96

Fehervary 42 - Carlson 74
Sandin 38 - Jensen 3
Irwin 52 - Alexeyev 27

Kuemper 35

PP1:
PP2:

scratched:
Lindgren 79 - backup
Mantha 39 - lower body - day to day
van Riemsdyk 57 - upper body - day to day
Oshie 77 - upper body - day to day

IR/LTIR:
Brown 28 - knee
Hagelin 62 - hip

Habs anticipated lines:
Harvey-Pinard 49 - Suzuki 14 - Armia 40
Gurianov 25 - Drouin 27 - Gallagher 11
Pitlick 32 - Evans 71 - Hoffman 68
Pezzetta 55 - Tierney 67 - Ylonen 56

Matheson 8 - Barron 52
Edmundson 44 - Wideman 6
Schueneman 64 - Kovacevik 26

Montembeault 35
Primeau 30 - backup

tonight’s zebras:
Kelly Sutherland 11, Peter MacDougall 38
Julien Fournier 56, Mark Shewchyk 92

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-visit-habs/c-343164830?tid=299819628 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-visit-habs/c-343164830?tid=299819628)

scoring summary
1st period:
Strome(20) from Jensen(23) and Ovechkin(32) at 5:30
2nd period:
Suzuki SHG from Edmunson and Matheson at 3:42
Armia SHG from Matheson and Evans at 7:52
Gallagher from Drouin at 9:23
Armia from Matheson and Suzuki at 11:15
3rd period:
Backstrom(7) PPG from Strome(40) and Carlson(18) at 14:27
Armia from Harvey-Pinard at 16:58
Hoffman from Evans at 19:42

Caps lose 6-2
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 02:31:28 PM Eastern
Oshie and van Riemsdyk are out tonight, both listed as upper body
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday April 06, 2023, 04:30:26 PM Eastern
I expect the Caps to win tonight, but WTF knows.  Even though it was almost a certainty weeks ago, it has to be a let down to officially be out of the race.


Nothing to play for as this game is meaningless to the entire NHL
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 06:34:32 PM Eastern
Mantha out too. Lower body.

Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:21:35 PM Eastern
Morning fellas    :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:23:41 PM Eastern
Who scored?
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:27:29 PM Eastern
YAY WILLY!    :clap:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:27:31 PM Eastern
GOOOAAALLLL

STROME


FIGHT

WILLY
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:30:13 PM Eastern
Pizetta dropped the gloves first but Willy gets the 2 minute instigator, plus a 5 for fighting and a 10 minute misconduct. Pizz only got a 5 fighting.


 :huh:   :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:35:41 PM Eastern
It's Kelly Sutherland.  Nuff said.   
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 07:46:28 PM Eastern
Come on Kuemper!  :goalie:   :raspberry: :snicker:   



Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:01:05 PM Eastern
Caps have the lead after the 1st..

 8-0
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:11:18 PM Eastern
Habs are tetchy tonight.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:12:04 PM Eastern
Caps give up a shorty
 :)
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:12:45 PM Eastern
 8-0     :lmao:
What a clusterfuck!
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:17:13 PM Eastern
NO!  NO!  DON'T SHOOT!  DON'T SHOOT!
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:21:35 PM Eastern
another shorty


 :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:23:10 PM Eastern
k is being more Special than usual tonight....

 :goalie:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:23:46 PM Eastern
HABS SCOOOORE


 :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:25:00 PM Eastern
I think  I read earlier that the Hbs hadn't scored in 141 minutes,    untill tonight.   
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:29:12 PM Eastern
 :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:29:24 PM Eastern
They're gettin fancy on us now!  :)   I can handle a high scoring loss. Just need to get Ovi 1 or 2.



Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:30:21 PM Eastern
I think  I read earlier that the Hbs hadn't scored in 141 minutes,    untill tonight.


probably accurate, the Habs got shutout in their previous two games
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:34:11 PM Eastern
We could have the best D in the world, but we still couldn't win anything with our two goalies.   :clown: :clown:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Ozzies09tc on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:34:23 PM Eastern
Is it just me or does Darcy Kuemper kinda suck... :huh:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:35:18 PM Eastern
They're gettin fancy on us now!  :)   I can handle a high scoring loss. Just need to get Ovi 1 or 2.


Kinda of all that's left to hope for.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:36:25 PM Eastern
Is it just me or does Darcy Kuemper kinda suck... :huh:

Sssshhhhh!  Don't tell anybody.    :P
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: BlackIce on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:39:06 PM Eastern
To be polite about it, Kuemper and the rest of the Capitals may be suffering from a bit of, er ....... malaise.


If we get beaten like a drum by Montreal tonight, what ray of hope can there be for the remaining 4 games in the season?  There is a ray of hope regarding the upcoming draft, however .....
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:47:48 PM Eastern
Topped that 6 shot first period with a massive 8 shots in the 2nd!  :wackysmile:


It's official, Ovi isn't scoring again this season.  :raspberry:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 08:50:15 PM Eastern
That was so, so, so bad.
 :bad: :bad: :bad:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:01:47 PM Eastern
There is a ray of hope regarding the upcoming draft, however .....


At this point, they owe us Bedard!  :snicker:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:07:46 PM Eastern
oh joy.  We have another pp.   
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:30:12 PM Eastern
OOOOFFFFFF!

As much as I am not enamoured of K, he didn't deserve that!
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:31:32 PM Eastern
 8-0 Seriously?  Only a 2 min pp?
 :bs:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:31:52 PM Eastern
PPG

BACKY
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:34:50 PM Eastern
yay.  we scored.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:37:17 PM Eastern
WAKE THE FUCK UP OVI!
The only reason for the team to play and us to watch now is for him to score.    ::)
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:38:51 PM Eastern
hattie


 :banana: :banana: :banana:
 :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:44:39 PM Eastern
 :banana: :banana: :banana:
 :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:47:06 PM Eastern
 :laughing:
And a Special K special to finish it off.........
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday April 06, 2023, 09:50:19 PM Eastern
I have no more words.

Night fellas.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Thursday April 06, 2023, 10:02:50 PM Eastern
it looks to me like the team doesn’t care anymore, like the coach has lost the team don’t care anymore
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 10:03:26 PM Eastern
This bunch of dummies will probably show up and win on Saturday..  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 06, 2023, 10:04:39 PM Eastern
it looks to me like the team doesn’t care anymore, like the coach has lost the team don’t care anymore


God I hope your right. Cause if this is "caring" we fucked, bad..  :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: BlackIce on Thursday April 06, 2023, 10:09:08 PM Eastern
it looks to me like the team doesn’t care anymore, like the coach has lost the team don’t care anymore




When you've been to the playoffs as much as the Caps have over the past decade +, yeah, I'll bet when the games don't mean anything any more that the vets on this team are probably deflated and basically going through the motions.


Good news - Detroit tied Buffalo at the end of regulation, so both they and Buffalo get standings points.  Detroit lost the shootout, and I'd rather that they would have gotten the second point, but they are now at 80, 3 points ahead of the Caps.  After getting spanked tonight and with the last 4 games against playoff or fighting-for-playoff teams, is there any reason to expect that the Caps would win more than one of them (IF they win any)?


Now we need St. Louis and Vancouver to pull ahead of the Caps so we can get the #8 draft position.  Even if we don't move up in the draft, the talent is thought to be deep enough that we can get a good prospect in the latter part of the top 10.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday April 06, 2023, 11:11:32 PM Eastern
The best part of this game is my dumbass son recorded it for me so the recording stopped with about 5 minutes to go in the game  :-|
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday April 06, 2023, 11:14:59 PM Eastern
that was pathetic. They should be embarrassed.
I didn’t expect their best effort, but SOME effort.
They didn’t get any help with the bounces….two exceptionally lucky bounces led to two goals
It would help if the net minder stopped them on occasion though.


Strome got his 20th goal on the season.



Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: BlackIce on Friday April 07, 2023, 06:44:22 AM Eastern
that was pathetic. They should be embarrassed.
I didn’t expect their best effort, but SOME effort.
They didn’t get any help with the bounces….two exceptionally lucky bounces led to two goals
It would help if the net minder stopped them on occasion though.


Strome got his 20th goal on the season.


Hey, Kuemper got a ring with Colorado last year.  I'm sure he's one of those guys who isn't very motivated by the Caps' current situation.  If the Caps' roster and Salary Cap situation allows it, they probably ought to bring up one of their Hershey goalies and let him finish out the season.


Vancouver also won last night, so now THEY are just about tied with the Caps in the standings (Caps have the tiebreaker).  But their last two games are against Anaheim and Arizona, two teams that are already where the Caps seem to be headed.  They've both lost 9 in a row.  Things look really good for them passing us by and we ending up in the #8 draft position pending the lottery.


I have no illusions about the Caps winning the lottery and getting Bedard.  In fact, when you get down to those positions in the lottery standing, they are sufficiently close to each other that IF the Caps end up #8, there is a higher probability that one of the teams directly ahead of them in the standings (#9-11) wins the lottery and gets Bedard than there is that the Caps win it.  The real benefit is that even if the caps DON'T have lottery luck, this draft is deep enough that they can snag a really promising prospect in the top 10.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Friday April 07, 2023, 01:19:36 PM Eastern
This is officially rock bottom.  I've also decided that they blew it with the goalie situation.  I was fine with getting rid of either Samsonov or Vanacek but not both.  Right now, either guy is better than Kuemper.  This looks like a bad signing.  Yes, he won a cup in Colorado but we don't exactly have Makar, McKinnon, Rantanen, etc. playing in front of him here.

As for the rest of the team, outside of Ovie, Strome, Wilson, TVR, Sandin and Fehervary, there isn't anybody I wouldn't consider moving.  Oshie, Backstrom, Kuz and Carlson should probably all be gone but I'm not sure management has it in them.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: justwincaps on Friday April 07, 2023, 01:53:49 PM Eastern
What's kind of sad is I just read an article this morning talking about all the re-tooling the Caps have to do in the off season in the forward corp, but "fortunately" the defense looks settled with the goals and top 6 all coming back.  I'm supposed to get excited that Darcy, Charlie, Carlson, Jensen, Sandin, TVR, Fehevary and Alexyev are coming back?   Did we not just give up 6 to a team that just suffered back-to-back shutouts? 
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Friday April 07, 2023, 03:06:09 PM Eastern
I blame coaching here for the goalie problems. Even Copely is having a good season in L.A.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: BlackIce on Friday April 07, 2023, 09:36:34 PM Eastern
What's kind of sad is I just read an article this morning talking about all the re-tooling the Caps have to do in the off season in the forward corp, but "fortunately" the defense looks settled with the goals and top 6 all coming back.  I'm supposed to get excited that Darcy, Charlie, Carlson, Jensen, Sandin, TVR, Fehevary and Alexyev are coming back?   Did we not just give up 6 to a team that just suffered back-to-back shutouts?




I think I am more tolerant of the defensive situation than you may be.  The defensive corps has been greatly disrupted this year, but at least now we have 3 defensemen in their early 20's in the mix rather than a bunch of mid-later career guys.  Yes, there will be growing pains, but there may eventually be growing, so let's see what happens there.  The goalies I can't speak to - I think with a more stable defensive corps next season you may see more middle-of-the-pack level goaltending out of the goalies, but I can't see much more than that out of them.


The forward corps is going to have to be revamped.  I have been seeing rumblings that Kuznetsov is gone, and if so, so be it, though there isn't an immediate replacement even for the disappointing level of offense he was able to produce.  We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Sunday April 09, 2023, 10:59:48 AM Eastern
I hear McMichael is doing well in Hershey. Move Kuzy and bring him up. I’m afraid McMike might just be an AHL star. He is young but let’s see
Or give Protas a shot at 3C. Although I don’t see him as a real scoring threat…at least so far.
Problem is that leaves Backy at 2C. I think that’s a stretch for him at this point.


I am also more okay with the D core.
Carlson is what he is and TVR is no star but he’s been serviceable. I think Fever will be a stud and am excited about Alexeyev as well. Jensen is fine but overpaid as usual.


Honestly I’d love to move Kuzy, Carlson, and Backy and have $25m to spend but it will Never happen.
Nobody would want Backy. Caps will never trade Carlson. Kuzy I could see them moving and maybe we can get a decent Center somewhere?  Centers are HARD to find which is why we overpaid Kuzy. Too bad he’s become disgruntled or unmotivated or whatever.


Knowing this team… we’ll prob do NOTHING and just continue to decline with an older team tight against the cap.
Title: Re: GDT #78 Caps at Canadiens @ 7pm
Post by: BlackIce on Monday April 10, 2023, 02:55:58 AM Eastern
The Caps are reportedly going to try to trade Kuznetsov in the coming weeks.  We will see.


IF this is true, it feels rather telling that the Caps are trading off Ovie's Russian sidekicks.  Supposedly one of tne of the top two or three RAW talents in the upcoming draft is a Russian winger who is signed with the KHL through the 2025/2026 season, but it is rumored he may slide down the board because of Russia/Ukraine issues and the uncertainty and delay surrounding his arrival.  IF he were to slide to the Caps in the upcoming draft, would they take him?  In the past, they might well have.  Now?  I'd bet not.