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Title: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 04:54:09 PM Eastern
November 26 vs Devils at Prudential Center
Time: 7:00
TV: NBCSW
Radio: 106.7 FM, Caps Radio 24/7

Washington Capitals 9-10-3
PP% 20.3(20th)  PK% 80.3(12th)  Faceoff% 47.4(24th)   
New Jersey Devils 17-4-0
PP% 19.7(23rd)  PK% 82.4(5th)  Faceoff% 53(7th)   

Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin(C) 8- Strome 17 - Sheary 73
Milano 15 - Kuznetsov 92 - Oshie 77
Johansson 90 - Eller 20 - Mantha 39
Protas 59 - Dowd 26 - Hathaway 21

Gustafsson 56 - Carlson(A) 74
Fehervary 42 - Jensen 3
Irwin 52 - van Riemsdyk 57

Lindgren 79

PP1: Ovechkin, Oshie, Strome, Johansson, Carlson   
PP2: Kuznetsov, Sheary, Milano, Gustafsson, van Riemsdyk 

scratched:
Kuemper 35 - backup
Snively 91
Alexeyev 27
Aubé-Kubel 96

IR/LTIR:
Orlov 9 - lower body
Backstrom 19 - hip
Brown 28 - knee
Wilson 43 - knee
Malenstyn 47 - hand
Hagelin 62 - hip

Devils anticipated lines:
Tatar 90 - Hischier(C) 13 - Bratt 63
Haula 56 - Hughes(A) 86 - Mercer 91
Wood 44 - McLeod 20 - Bastian 14
Sharongovich 17 - Boqvist 70 - Zetterlund 49

Siegenthaler 71 - Hamilton 7
Graves 33 - Marino 6
Smith 2 - Severson 28

Vanecek 41
Schmid 40 - backup

tonight’s zebras:
Jon McIsaac 2, Kendrick Nicholson 30
Andrew Smith 51, Matt MacPherson 83

https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-start-trip-in-jersey/c-338065896 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-start-trip-in-jersey/c-338065896)

https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/assets/binary/338049558/binary-file/file.pdf (https://cms.nhl.bamgrid.com/images/assets/binary/338049558/binary-file/file.pdf)

scoring summary
1st period:
Hischier PPG from Mercer and Hamilton at 9:04
2nd period:
Hughes unassisted at 5:59
Hughes from Graves and Mercer at 9:19
3rd period:
Hughes from Haula at 9:51
Carlson(6) PPG from Strome(12) and Johansson(5) at 11:36
Zetterlund from McLeod and Siegenthaler at 14:47

Caps lose 5-1 
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 06:32:51 PM Eastern
So Oshie, who was out "indefinitely/long term" missed 11 games. Orlov, who as far as I know was "day to day" is on game 10 and counting and not traveling with the team..  :clown: 



Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:05:58 PM Eastern
VTec in net



Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:17:34 PM Eastern
 :yawn:
Morning all
 :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:20:58 PM Eastern
AHA!
Were wearing kit that I recognise!    :)
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:23:15 PM Eastern
 :poop:


 :clown: :O=




Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:24:53 PM Eastern
As usual, Carlson standing there waiving at the puck.  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:28:24 PM Eastern
I’m amazed the zebras got that high stick call right without the use of a replay
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:31:08 PM Eastern
pp number two, and I haven’t even had one beer yet
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:35:10 PM Eastern
How many shutouts VV have this year? He's playing some shutout hockey!  :goalie:


 :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:43:02 PM Eastern
Almost just missed.  :-( Our puck luck sucks ass this year.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:43:33 PM Eastern
not a hateful 1st from the Caps
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 07:44:37 PM Eastern
Looks like we're trying hard........
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:08:40 PM Eastern
 :O= :O=


 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:10:55 PM Eastern
Wow!
That was just a whole series of fuck ups.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:15:32 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop: :poop:


 :O= :clown:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:16:32 PM Eastern
Carlson and Eller lol.  :clown: :poop:


And now another one..  :clown: :clown: :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:17:21 PM Eastern
Another one off of Lindy....
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:17:32 PM Eastern
lucky ass bounce
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:23:56 PM Eastern
We need to trade for some of that puck luck.  :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:27:47 PM Eastern
Looks like our guys are getting frustrated.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:41:22 PM Eastern
not sure how much longer I can last chaps.    :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 08:42:21 PM Eastern
It not as if our fellas are giving me much reason to stay awake.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:03:27 PM Eastern
Looking like a reversal of fortunes from the last game.
You cant win if you don't score.   

Time for some Big Boy pants.   From anybody!

ANYBODY???
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:07:55 PM Eastern
Why do we keep passing to someone who's pinned gainst the boards?  Looks like lots of panic offloads.    :-(
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:12:38 PM Eastern
Sloppy, sloppy, lazy plays.
 :stupid:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:13:33 PM Eastern
And I'm the only one whos still awake
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:14:19 PM Eastern
 :clown: :clown: :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:14:34 PM Eastern
that’s that then
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:15:34 PM Eastern
Pardon. "Natural"  :clown: :clown: :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:16:19 PM Eastern
Trio of 10pm eastern starts coming up..   :yawn:  See ya then.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:17:31 PM Eastern
 :clap:
Great D chaps, I mean really.  Awesome.
 :-|
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:19:15 PM Eastern
there goes the shutout  :)


Carlson PPG
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:21:57 PM Eastern
Well, we bust the shutout at least.
And guess who it came from?  Somebody who should learn to play more D.    :lmao:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:29:19 PM Eastern
Oh, Lindy.   :'(
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:36:43 PM Eastern
burn the tape, get ready for the next game
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:42:35 PM Eastern
Thank goodness that's over.
I thought we were quite competitive in the first period, but it went steadily downhill from there.
Pretty rubbish.  Awfull passing, giveaways, panic passes.  yuk!

All credit to NJ.  They were all over us.  Lindy Ruff's 800th win.   :clap:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday November 26, 2022, 09:43:54 PM Eastern
Amazed I managed to stay awake to watch this shit show.
Night all.
 :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Saturday November 26, 2022, 10:36:36 PM Eastern
Two bad bounces for Lindgren, and Vtec must’ve had ten rabbits feet stuffed up his back side for this match up. Generally speaking though, the Caps looked like they played well most of the game.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday November 28, 2022, 10:55:29 AM Eastern
I only watched the 9 min condensed game...which was pretty much just a NJ goal highlight reel.  Actually not true - the 1st ten minutes looked like all Caps and they could have had a 3-0 lead, and they did appear to have many glorious chances throughout.  Lindy looks like he goes down teensy bit early sometimes.  Not knocking him for when a sniper bounces one off his ear and in from an impossible angle - or the fact that the GT is consistently left out to dry by the team in front.


Carlson looked horrible as usual...well at least he was well represented in the highlights of the OPPONENT scoring anyway.  I know he gets a lot of minutes so it only stands to reason he will be on the ice for some opponent scoring, but he is consistently playing poor defense.  He and Eller were both a -3 for the game.  Not really what you want out of your Norris candidate.  Gustafsson and Mantha also a -3.  Eller rang the crossbar, but he also should have had a primary assist on the giveaway to Hughes.


I didn't see the whole game so I really can't say, but nice to hear they competed.  Problem is they are very suspect on D and when you don't score, that's not a recipe for success.

Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday November 28, 2022, 11:01:43 AM Eastern
So Oshie, who was out "indefinitely/long term" missed 11 games. Orlov, who as far as I know was "day to day" is on game 10 and counting and not traveling with the team..  :clown:


I wondered the same thing about a week ago.  might as well put him on 10 day IR retroactive at this point.  Although...doubtful the Caps need any more short term IR cap relief
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 28, 2022, 11:21:17 AM Eastern

I wondered the same thing about a week ago.  might as well put him on 10 day IR retroactive at this point.  Although...doubtful the Caps need any more short term IR cap relief


I never saw an official announcement from the team, but they must have moved Orlov to IR a few games ago. McMike had to be moved down to make room for Oshie. Someone else will have to be moved down when Orlov is ready. A team can only carry 23 active players, 2 of which are goalies. If Orlov was not on IR the Caps would have 24.


The more interesting part of this, to me anyway, was how the team publicly said Oshie was out long term and they implied Orlov would only miss a couple games.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Monday November 28, 2022, 01:52:49 PM Eastern
In case nobody noticed, Seattle is having a pretty good season so far.  Their leading scorer is Andre Burakovsky who would also be tied for the Caps point lead if he happened to be here.  That was a bad move by management and Vrana for Mantha was much worse.  Yea, Vrana has issues right now but the guy is a very good hockey player.  You can't make those types of moves and not regress just as you can't give aging veterans 8 year deals.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Monday November 28, 2022, 06:58:48 PM Eastern
They traded Vrana, Panik, a 1st and a 2nd for Mantha. 


They gave the Avalanche Burt for some dude I've never heard of and a 2nd round pick.


They gave the Devils Seigenthaler for a 3rd round pick.




Some of the absolute worst moves in franchise history..

Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: alta on Monday November 28, 2022, 07:35:13 PM Eastern
Burt and Vrana needed to move on to improve their game. It’s happened before, it will happen again. It’s a bit early to tell but Vtec might be the same. Trading Seigs was a joke. Same for whatshisface they sent to Nashville.


Right now it looks like Strome and Milano have earned spots. Definitely Strome. Caps are gonna have to cut someone.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 29, 2022, 08:44:55 AM Eastern
Caps are gonna have to cut someone.


Since Gustafsson is about a clone of Carlson, for < 1/8 the salary, it'll probably be him.
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday November 29, 2022, 12:09:51 PM Eastern
I really didn't have a problem with them moving Vranna.  Yes, great talent, but a one-way player that just wasn't getting it done.  They way overpaid in the trade, but much of that was moving Panik's salary which was a necessity.  I'm not as down on Mantha as everyone else seems to be.  He certainly is not performing to his salary currently.


Burka - meh that MF'r was a whiney bitch that was a drain on the whole organization.  Yes underutilized here, but he had MORE than enough chances to man up and play here.  He was WAY overdue for being shipped out.  Paying him to stay here and not play would have been stupid.  It was way past time for him to go when they finally pulled the strings on that.  THe fact that he is playing better for someone else...good for him, hopefully he has matured.  He just wasn't the asset he should have been here.


Ziggy...now THAT pisses me off.  THat was just dumb.  I know it was salary cap, but FFS he was the best real D man they had.  Fever has actually done a good job stepping into that role (maybe earlier than expected), with probably better skating skills, but yeah - moving Ziggy was a mistake.  Imagine if we actually had Ziggy instead of ....that Norris candidate guy.  We might actually keep the GAA below 3.5
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday November 29, 2022, 02:29:12 PM Eastern
I wouldn't call Vrana a one way player.  One way players usually stink it up 5 on 5 and Vrana was a plus player every season he was here including +20 in 2018-19.  He also had back to back 20 goal seasons (24 & 25).  Mantha hasn't cracked 20 goals in 4 years and is a -32 for his career.

As for Burakovsky, he was used horribly being stuck on the 3rd line and/or short shifted constantly.  Without his play in the East final we don't make the Cup in 2018.  He was also a plus player every year he was here.  If you are going to move him, at least get comparable value.

No idea why they moved Siegenthaler. 
Title: Re: GDT #23 Caps at Devils @ 7pm
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday November 29, 2022, 05:51:57 PM Eastern
Well, for whatever reason, we like shipping off young forwards who score goals and now we can't, score goals.. And we send off young defenders that play defense and now we can't, defend. Go figure?  :huh: 

They better pray Miroshichenkenovinchkin pans out in a hurry, cause we're still cap strapped and have absolutely NOBODY who's got true top 6 talent in the pipeline. And winning games 3-2 or 2-1 with our D is a mighty tall order.