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Title: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 05:08:51 PM Eastern
                  :capslogoUSA:

               (https://galactichub.com/caps/Capitals @ Jets.gif)
Game 64              84-39-18-6 (PTS-W-L-OT)   Streak - W2
Thu Feb 27, 2020      Washington Capitals @ Winnipeg Jets [32-27-6  OT1]
Place:  Bell MTS Place
Time:  8:00 p.m. ET
TV:  NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Radio:  106.7 or 94.7 The Fan, Caps Radio 24/7 (http://tunein.com/radio/Caps-Radio-247-s231201/)
NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2019020992) for Live Box Score
Last Game:  Tue Feb 25, 7:00 p.m. ET Capitals won 4-3 in SO against Jets
Next Game:  Sun Mar 1, 8:00 p.m. Capitals @ Wild
                               
        8-Ovechkin        92-Kuznetsov        43-Wilson
       13-Vrana        19-Bäckström        77-Oshie
       62-Hagelin        20-Eller        17-Kovalchuk
       14-Panik        26-Dowd        21-Hathaway
:spacer50pix:      4-Dillon      74-Carlson
:spacer50pix:       9-Orlov       3-Jensen
:spacer50pix:      6-Kempny     33-Gudas
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 30-Samsonov (starter)
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby

                            -- SCRATCH --         
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 28-Leipsic
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 72-Boyd
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 34-Siegenthaler

                            -- INJURED --         
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix:       None

                     -- 1st Powerplay Unit -- 
           13-Vrana      19-Bäckström      77-Oshie
     :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin      :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson

                    -- 2nd Powerplay Unit --         
           43-Wilson           92-Kuznetsov           17-Kovalchuk
     :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin     :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov

  Referees:    Trevor Hanson (#14),    Jake Brenk (#26)
  Linesmen:   Travis Toomey (#90),    Scott Cherrey (#50)


                                Jets Lines
81-Kyle Connor -- 55-Mark Scheifele -- 26-Blake Wheeler
27-Nikolaj Ehlers -- 20-Cody Eakin -- 29-Patrik Laine
58-Jansen Harkins -- 9-Andrew Copp -- 28-Jack Roslovic
57-Gabriel Bourque -- 21-Nicholas Shore -- 82-Mason Appleton

              7-Dmitry Kulikov -- 4-Neal Pionk
              88-Nathan Beaulieu -- 12-Dylan DeMelo
              2-Anthony Bitetto -- 3-Tucker Poolman

                     37-Connor Hellebuyck (starter)
                     30-Laurent Brossoit

 Scratched: 8-Sami Niku, 38-Logan Shaw
 Injured: 22-Mark Letestu, 18-Bryan Little, 85-Mathieu Perreault, 17-Adam Lowry, 5-Luca Sbisa, 44-Josh Morrissey


(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fscoring_summary.gif&hash=e4c44b0c35837704bf29d0ee1ad212f9)

1st Period
06:33  Jets GOAL Kulikov, assists Wheeler & Pionk   1-0 WPG

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
07:20  Jets GOAL Connor, assists Scheifele & Bitetto   2-0 WPG
18:32  Jets GOAL Scheifele, unassisted   3-0 WPG

FINAL:    3-0 WPG


STREAMS:
http://mygoodstream.pw/nhl/nhl.php?date=2020-02-27&id=71170503&game=2019020992 (http://mygoodstream.pw/nhl/nhl.php?date=2020-02-27&id=71170503&game=2019020992)
http://bilasport.net/game/winnipeg-jets-vs-washington-capitals-22880.html (http://bilasport.net/game/winnipeg-jets-vs-washington-capitals-22880.html)
http://bestnhl.com/nhl.php?feed=Away&id=71170503&game=2019020992 (http://bestnhl.com/nhl.php?feed=Away&id=71170503&game=2019020992)
http://www.nhlstream.net/washington-capitals-live-stream/ (http://www.nhlstream.net/washington-capitals-live-stream/) (Don't click on links. Click on black window play button below video  player at top)
(More streams can be found in the Sticky Game Streams Thread (https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/index.php/topic,385.0.html))

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 05:48:37 PM Eastern
this coaching staff is fukin amazing... Seigs is out again
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Thursday February 27, 2020, 05:50:39 PM Eastern
this coaching staff is fukin amazing... Seigs is out again
    I'm disappointed. Seigs has been our most consistent defender.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:00:39 PM Eastern
    Time to get primed up for the game.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:01:49 PM Eastern
Let's GO CAPS!

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:02:37 PM Eastern

I'll start about 7:30ish
Otherwise I'll fall asleep.

    Time to get primed up for the game.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:05:21 PM Eastern
this coaching staff is fukin amazing... Seigs is out again


I don't get it.  I'm hoping he's nursing something, but I seriously doubt it.  I know he is young, but he has been solid this year.  It's like if a younger player has a small dip in success they bench him for a month.  If a veteran sucks all season, they play him and hope he will improve.



Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:21:57 PM Eastern
    I'd rather see Holtby in net.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:27:16 PM Eastern

I was starting to think that as well.  But it's not like he's a secret weapon of sorts.  No need to hide an injury.
There HAS to be, rather, there better be a good explanation.


I don't get it.  I'm hoping he's nursing something, but I seriously doubt it.  I know he is young, but he has been solid this year.  It's like if a younger player has a small dip in success they bench him for a month.  If a veteran sucks all season, they play him and hope he will improve.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:32:16 PM Eastern
there’s a preseason ballgame on 106.7 right now, started at 6:05, somehow I doubt it will be over in an hour
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:35:53 PM Eastern
there’s a preseason ballgame on 106.7 right now, started at 6:05, somehow I doubt it will be over in an hour


Definitely not, but probably see more effort from that squad.

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 06:51:07 PM Eastern
there’s a preseason ballgame on 106.7 right now, started at 6:05, somehow I doubt it will be over in an hour
Or 2 hours.. Caps don't drop the puck till 8pm est..  :-\


Really don't see the love affair with Jensen especially, or Gudas or Kempny.. They could find a sweater for Sigs if they wanted to. Maybe they're superstitious and since we've stole 2 games in a row.. Yay??  :clown:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:16:51 PM Eastern
8:00 fricking oclock.  Like the Manitobans got ANYTHING else to do at 6?



Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:18:02 PM Eastern
 The wife and I are attending this game. Wife bought tickets at center ice right behind the Caps bench. Damn she spoils me.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:18:05 PM Eastern
Or 2 hours.. Caps don't drop the puck till 8pm est..  :-\


Really don't see the love affair with Jensen especially, or Gudas or Kempny.. They could find a sweater for Sigs if they wanted to. Maybe they're superstitious and since we've stole 2 games in a row.. Yay??  :clown:

I like Goodass.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:20:33 PM Eastern
The wife and I are attending this game. Wife bought tickets at center ice right behind the Caps bench. Damn she spoils me.

You got your Caps gear on?   :wackysmile:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:23:20 PM Eastern
while all the Ruskis are buzzing around Kovy, I hope some of them are looking after Dillon.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:34:40 PM Eastern
    I'm disappointed. Seigs has been our most consistent defender.



OK - I have been holding off on joining the bandwagon on bashing Rierdon - but this does it.  Ziggy has absolutely been our best defensive Dman this year.  I realize that is not a high bar, but he has been really good and deserves to play. 


Rierdon and Caps management have always favored guys that  are more established that they put under contract.  They rarely if ever bench a veteran for performance reasons.  They had the perfect chance this game as Kempney made an incredibly boneheaded play last game that directly resulted in a goal. It was so bad he should have not played another shift!


The organization just can't make the tough decisions and as a result, our veterans are "comfortable".  The result is that they play hard when they feel like playing hard and coast along in other games.  With this inconsistency, Rierdon has shown himself to be a "yes-man", who management will ironically fire after this year.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:42:48 PM Eastern

They had the perfect chance this game as Kempny made an incredibly boneheaded play last game that directly resulted in a goal. It was so bad he should have not played another shift!


Not to mention the bonehead penalty at the end of the NJ game that put us 3 on 5..


I like Goodass.

I've been known to favor a good ass myself.. :raspberry:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:47:31 PM Eastern
I guess my complaints over the years finally made sense to somebody, 106.7 just switched over to hockey
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:51:53 PM Eastern
The wife and I are attending this game. Wife bought tickets at center ice right behind the Caps bench. Damn she spoils me.
Awesome.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 07:52:39 PM Eastern
https://twitter.com/SamanthaJPell/status/1233188789784338432
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:03:18 PM Eastern
LETS GET IT ON!!!
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:07:47 PM Eastern
Whew, I thought it was NBC for a moment.  Had to change feeds.
CHEERS ALL!
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:17:40 PM Eastern
Whew, I thought it was NBC for a moment.  Had to change feeds.
CHEERS ALL!
Cheers Barf.
Check the GDT OP.  I put the best stream links at the bottom. And I list the stations carrying the game near top.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:21:57 PM Eastern
 :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:22:20 PM Eastern
 :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:27:21 PM Eastern
GoodAss DumbAss!
 :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:27:49 PM Eastern
stone cops so far....     8-0   key
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:29:08 PM Eastern
:pk:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:33:01 PM Eastern
Good pK, but the fellas look lke they were out a little too late last night.    :hopslam: .
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:37:03 PM Eastern
As usual, only zone time we get it is by the 3rd and 4th lines..  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:37:32 PM Eastern
Sammy needs to settle a little  His reactions are a little too extreme.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:42:07 PM Eastern
We're all over the bloody place. ....  Not in a good way. 
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:44:06 PM Eastern
That was very scruffy and raggedy.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:45:39 PM Eastern
Does Rob Eyeliner Carlin have CoronaVirus...?
:D

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:50:47 PM Eastern
Jets have been jumping so far.  Let's hope they're wearing themselves out.....
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:52:20 PM Eastern
Does Rob Eyeliner Carlin have CoronaVirus...?
:D


I heard the eyeliner he uses is on backorder because the factory shut down in China due to the CoronaVirus.
and he refuses to go on camera without his eyeliner. :raspberry:

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 08:59:10 PM Eastern
Sammy needs to settle a little  His reactions are a little too extreme.

Seems the comms disagree....
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:09:51 PM Eastern
Appalling giveaways again.    :suicide:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:12:43 PM Eastern
Sad realities.. Caps just aren't very good.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:12:53 PM Eastern
Oshie is so aware.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:13:29 PM Eastern
Jets are all over us like mozzies over a sweaty foot.   :-|
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:13:58 PM Eastern
Good spin o rama no look retard pass by Jensen.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:15:49 PM Eastern
Good spin o rama no look retard pass by Jensen.

How can you possibly pick out that one bad play out of all the many others we have done so far this game?
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:17:39 PM Eastern
How can you possibly pick out that one bad play out of all the many others we have done so far this game?


I can't keep up. I'd have to post every second.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:18:24 PM Eastern
I do not think the Caps are playing poorly.  The Jets are playing well.  I like our game and it's just a matter of time.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:19:01 PM Eastern
Poor Sammy.
 Hardly any defensive energy out there. When Winnipeg enters our zone we just become all Keystone cops on defense. We are also fortunate that Winnipeg is not shooting that accurately right now.


 I mean you look at the defensive effort in our zone, how long the shenanigans have been carrying on, and you just wonder what the hell has Rierden been doing for these last couple months??


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:23:22 PM Eastern
I mean you look at the defensive effort in our zone, how long the shenanigans have been carrying on, and you just wonder what the hell has Rierden been doing for these last couple months??

Rush
All the top lines want to do is play transition style. No work, no D, nadda.. 1 and done.. Skate back to their end and run around waiting for the next shift. And someone's neutered Wilson. He's a shell of his former dynamic self. Little hitting, no fighting.. Team has zero energy unless the 3rd or 4th line is on the ice. It's annoying really..
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:25:59 PM Eastern
I do not think the Caps are playing poorly.  The Jets are playing well.  I like our game and it's just a matter of time.

We'd play better if we passed to each other instead of the bloody opposition all the bloody time    >:(
jus' sayin'
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:28:59 PM Eastern
I agree with Wilson seemingly off. I also think Backy has been slow for some reason.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:30:16 PM Eastern
Oooh  A PP    :-|
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:31:55 PM Eastern
Sad realities.. Caps just aren't very good.


Twice as sadly, Mick, I’m beginning to agree, and I mean as an OVERALL good team!
In the past few seasons, when they’ve had these 2nd half season slumps,  we would always get several really dominant wins, sandwiched in between the low effort/complacency stuff, so as to at least give us fans a feeling that they still had the season generally under control.


 But it’s starting to feel different this time. We’ve had our wins,  but hardly any of them have felt like good solid wins, many of them coming from behind, or lucky wins, and so on.


 The caps overall play since before Christmas can be characterized generally as more random and chaotic, with small flashes, showing themselves OCCASIONALLY,  where our wins and losses are more like a coin flip than anything by design on the CAPS part!


 I don’t like it. Not at all. I’m hoping for this stuff to start picking up pretty quick, but I’m not that optimistic about it, like I have been in the seasons past!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:35:39 PM Eastern
All the top lines want to do is play transition style. No work, no D, nadda.. 1 and done.. Skate back to their end and run around waiting for the next shift. And someone's neutered Wilson. He's a shell of his former dynamic self. Little hitting, no fighting.. Team has zero energy unless the 3rd or 4th line is on the ice. It's annoying really..


Absolutely and totally on point, Mick!
 Couldn’t of said it better myself. Great observations. (sadly)


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:35:55 PM Eastern
Not one Cap went to the front of the net the entire PP.  STUPID!
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:36:55 PM Eastern
Orlov is a fucking retard too.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:38:13 PM Eastern
SAD.   :'(
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:41:45 PM Eastern
Orlov is a fucking retard too.



Kempney has embarrassed himself tonight.  He's been flopping around the ice and blindly throwing the puck around.  Between Kempney, Jensen and Orlov it is a total circus.



Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:41:54 PM Eastern
All the top lines want to do is play transition style. No work, no D, nadda.. 1 and done.. Skate back to their end and run around waiting for the next shift. And someone's neutered Wilson. He's a shell of his former dynamic self. Little hitting, no fighting.. Team has zero energy unless the 3rd or 4th line is on the ice. It's annoying really..
   I agree about Wilson. I thought he was paid to fuck shit up.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:47:01 PM Eastern
Another thing that feels different than the last several seasons, is that in prior slumps, when we had that good, strong win, the team seemed to return to winning form for a good stretch, then maybe drop
down again, for a few, then press on with another good stretch, etc.


This time, I expected at least a short, decent string of 4-5 wins, after the VERY FEW solid wins we’ve had since our continual mid December slump......THEY'VE NEVER REALLY COME, so far.
 We’ve had a couple big wins in the last two months, only to be followed by another stretch of weak, lackluster games of the 50/50 win-loss type!  Very disappointing so far!


 Hoping for a turnaround, AND QUICK!!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:51:32 PM Eastern
 I mean I’ll try to look positive here for a second, but maybe they have a surprise “March turnaround“ in their bag of tricks!
 I wish I had a little more evidence to go on, to feel more optimistic about it!


 Come on boys!👍


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:54:34 PM Eastern
Hoping for a big 3rd period comeback?????
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:55:15 PM Eastern
The Capitals are still sitting on top of the Metro and are only four points down from the President's Cup.  I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.
 :sick:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 09:57:56 PM Eastern
I'd much rather watch a good pitchers dual over a goalie dual
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:01:59 PM Eastern
Would love to know who the PP coach is "supposed" to be.. Cause they've been on vacation for the better part of the year. Switching Ovie and Carlson or putting Vrana in Kuzy's spot is really all they can come up with? All 5 guys stand in the same spot, doing nothing.. Makes ya scratch your head..
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:03:26 PM Eastern
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Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:05:18 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:05:25 PM Eastern
 :clown: :poop: :clown: :poop:


not good
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:05:47 PM Eastern
Night folks..  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:06:24 PM Eastern
Are we ready to fire Total Retard and his entire staff yet?

Hopefully missing the playoffs or a 1st round exit will lead to TR leaving town. That's the best we can hope for at this point...
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:07:38 PM Eastern
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that shit doesn't work
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:08:06 PM Eastern
 You couldn’t have more of a contrast tonight, after that second goal from Winnipeg, than to show the difference about a team that WANTS to play, and a team that sort of doesn’t really want to be there tonight,  so they hang their goalie out to dry!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:08:48 PM Eastern
I'm getting too tired to watch this rubbish.   :yawn: Couplle more minutes and i'm done.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:08:54 PM Eastern

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Frak.


that shit doesn't work
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:10:59 PM Eastern
You couldn’t have more of a contrast tonight, after that second goal from Winnipeg, than to show the difference about a team that WANTS to play, and a team that sort of doesn’t really want to be there tonight,  so they hang their goalie out to dry!


Rush

I thought Samsonov played great tonight.  The others....meh.. not so much.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:12:16 PM Eastern
Here's  thing.... try crashing the net you morons! 

Worked last time, no?
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:12:53 PM Eastern
The way all our players are playing like retards you'd think this is the special olympics...
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:13:34 PM Eastern
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Frak.




https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IVMcWmPcCEI

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:13:37 PM Eastern
I thought Samsonov played great tonight.  The others....meh.. not so much.


Sammy has been the only bright spot this game.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:13:47 PM Eastern
The Capitals are still sitting on top of the Metro and are only four points down from the President's Cup.  I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.
 :sick:


AJ, You just answered the Jeopardy question, to the answer “ The reason the capitals don’t feel like playing tonight”😁😁
 They saw they were on top of the division by 2 to 4 points. Solution; “We can take the night off tonight guys, no problem. We are THAT good“!  (Bastards)!


Rush



Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:16:38 PM Eastern
I thought Samsonov played great tonight.  The others....meh.. not so much.


 I agree Lily!  Had Winnipeg shot a little more accurately, early on, it could be three or four goals!
 I actually feel bad for the Youngin‘!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:17:32 PM Eastern

AJ, You just answered the Jeopardy question, to the answer “ The reason the capitals don’t feel like playing tonight”😁😁
 They saw they were on top of the division by 2 to 4 points. Solution; “We can take the night off tonight guys, no problem. We are THAT good“!  (Bastards)!


Rush
:'(
They started out playing strong.  This is pathetic now.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:17:54 PM Eastern
Would love to know who the PP coach is "supposed" to be.. Cause they've been on vacation for the better part of the year. Switching Ovie and Carlson or putting Vrana in Kuzy's spot is really all they can come up with? All 5 guys stand in the same spot, doing nothing.. Makes ya scratch your head..


I kinda got excited seeing PP2 with Kovalchuk there, but then quickly realized PP2 was running the same fucking predictable shit as PP1, just with Kovy in the Ovi spot. How much does Blaine make a year to come up with 1 fucking play that the guys on the ice can run on auto pilot?
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:19:02 PM Eastern
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Frak.


LMAO, Barf!😂🤣
Where do you find those damn things!👍


Rush







Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:20:30 PM Eastern


Carlson:  <crosscheck> "Sick 'em Dillon!"
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:22:10 PM Eastern

I kinda got excited seeing PP2 with Kovalchuk there, but then quickly realized PP2 was running the same fucking predictable shit as PP1, just with Kovy in the Ovi spot. How much does Blaine make a year to come up with 1 fucking play that the guys on the ice can run on auto pilot?

Yeah, I got annoyed earlier on the PP's with the no look passes behind the net.... straight to the other team.     ::)
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:23:10 PM Eastern
I’m not seeing a comeback tonight
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:24:25 PM Eastern
If we're gunna lose can we get blown the fuck out so TR gets fired? I would have GLADLY lost to the Pens a few games ago if it meant no more TR.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: justwincaps on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:25:38 PM Eastern
I've had enough of Eakin's BS.  Someone needs to level that Ginger.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:26:56 PM Eastern
fork em..


 :clown: :poop: :clown: :poop: :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:26:58 PM Eastern
 :poop: :poop: :poop:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:27:46 PM Eastern
If we're gunna lose can we get blown the fuck out so TR gets fired? I would have GLADLY lost to the Pens a few games ago if it meant no more TR.

BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:27:53 PM Eastern
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Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:28:27 PM Eastern
BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!


Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:28:44 PM Eastern
The better team won.  End of.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:28:56 PM Eastern
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,
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Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:29:11 PM Eastern
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 :wackysmile:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:30:07 PM Eastern
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1st Period
06:33  Jets GOAL Kulikov, assists Wheeler & Pionk   1-0 WPG

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
07:20  Jets GOAL Connor, assists Scheifele & Bitetto   2-0 WPG
18:32  Jets GOAL Scheifele, unassisted   3-0 WPG

FINAL:    3-0 WPG
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:30:23 PM Eastern

Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war.

Except for the Fouls.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:31:27 PM Eastern
Samsonov  should be the only one allowed to fly home in the Capitals jet, tonight!
 Everybody else should get put on a Greyhound bus, back to DC!
 They could not even defend for Sammy in the last minute of the game!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:31:46 PM Eastern

Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war.


yea, but wrong battle. It’s just like when I used to care about the NFL. Skins could go 14-2 as long as those 2 were Dallas. Same thing with Caps and shitsburgh

Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:32:11 PM Eastern
Except for the Fouls.


If it means firing TR and getting a coach who actually gives us a chance in the playoffs, I'll gladly give the Pens a meaningless season game in exchange for a legit Cup run.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: justwincaps on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:32:58 PM Eastern
Samsonov  should be the only one allowed to fly home in the Capitals jet, tonight!
 Everybody else should get put on a Greyhound bus, back to DC!
 They could not even defend for Sammy in the last minute of the game!


Rush
Sammy definitely deserved a better result tonight.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:36:16 PM Eastern

If it means firing TR and getting a coach who actually gives us a chance in the playoffs, I'll gladly give the Pens a meaningless season game in exchange for a legit Cup run.

Did you post in the "Coaching" thread?
Besides, there's no such thiing as a "meaningless" game against the Fouls.  Season OR post! 
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:36:51 PM Eastern
Sammy definitely deserved a better result tonight.


Oh yeah!
Sadly, Justwin, that’s either his 4th or 5th straight loss.


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:37:40 PM Eastern
Did you post in the "Coaching" thread?
Besides, there's no such thiing as a "meaningless" game against the Fouls.  Season OR post!


Hypothetical question...


Lose to Pens in regular season -> fire TR -> Caps win Stanley Cup in 2020


OR


Crush Pens in regular season -> don't fire TR -> Caps exit first round


Which would you choose?
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:38:58 PM Eastern
G''night fellas.
Flip side y'all.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:40:28 PM Eastern

Hypothetical question...


Lose to Pens in regular season -> fire TR -> Caps win Stanley Cup in 2020


OR


Crush Pens in regular season -> don't fire TR -> Caps exit first round


Which would you choose?

 8-0

CRUSH Fouls, win Cup.  End of. :raspberry:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:43:56 PM Eastern
Did you post in the "Coaching" thread?
Besides, there's no such thiing as a "meaningless" game against the Fouls.  Season OR post!


I’m with you Lil, as a Caps fan, that NO game, against the hens, is meaningless!


But I’m with Zero on Rierden! He is the poster boy, head coach, for “MEANINGLESS”!!😁😁


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:45:04 PM Eastern

Hypothetical question...


Lose to Pens in regular season -> fire TR -> Caps win Stanley Cup in 2020


OR


Crush Pens in regular season -> don't fire TR -> Caps exit first round


Which would you choose?


Good Lord man.  We'd have to get past the Hens anyway.
What good do you see getting a new HC would do now????  New HC learning about the plaers at this time?  Cmon! 

Stop it  I need to sleep.   
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:46:30 PM Eastern

yea, but wrong battle. It’s just like when I used to care about the NFL. Skins could go 14-2 as long as those 2 were Dallas. Same thing with Caps and shitsburgh

Hehe!  Back in the day my favorite button (which I think I still have) was a large one that read "DALLAS SUCKS".
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:47:48 PM Eastern

Hypothetical question...


Lose to Pens in regular season -> fire TR -> Caps win Stanley Cup in 2020


OR


Crush Pens in regular season -> don't fire TR -> Caps exit first round


Which would you choose?


 It’s a no brainer, Zero!!.............DA CUP!!


Let’s add in sweeping the Hens, in four games in the second round of the playoffs to get there!!👍👍


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:49:19 PM Eastern
Good night all.  Sorry for your loss.  I'll try to do better next game.
 8)
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:50:59 PM Eastern

Hypothetical question...


Lose to Pens in regular season -> fire TR -> Caps win Stanley Cup in 2020


OR


Crush Pens in regular season -> don't fire TR -> Caps exit first round


Which would you choose?

BESIDES! 

WHO would you get to replace him?  Your brother in law?  Who is available and competant and willing NOW, exactly?
EXACTLY!
'Cos having a shiny new coach is really vonna help our tem now. 

SHEESH!
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:53:14 PM Eastern
Over-tired....    ;D
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:54:18 PM Eastern
     Well that was ugly. No one showed up. The 2 players that stood out for me was Kempny and Vrana. In a bad way. Kempny was flopping around all over the place. And Vrana was driving me crazy. He floated between center ice and the Jets Blueline all game. He might be the worst floater in the league.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:58:11 PM Eastern
Good night all.  Sorry for your loss.  I'll try to do better next game.
 8)


 See ya AJ!
Thanks as always for the GDT!


Just to let you know, DC and I are working on another casual get together,   Especially for some of those that missed it last time.
 Possibly the Pittsburgh game on Saturday, March 7th, at 1pm.
It’s two Saturdays from now.
I’ve got to make some calls first, as basically it’s going to be DC and I, meeting up somewhere to watch the game, possibly with the wives, and hoping we can get a few other board members out!
 Rich, Barf, Alta,  and anyone else , come on out!!👍👍


Rush 
 
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 10:58:25 PM Eastern
     Well that was ugly. No one showed up. The 2 players that stood out for me was Kempny and Vrana. In a bad way. Kempny was flopping around all over the place. And Vrana was driving me crazy. He floated between center ice and the Jets Blueline all game. He might be the worst floater in the league.

my thoughts were with you.    :'(
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 11:03:11 PM Eastern
     Well that was ugly. No one showed up. The 2 players that stood out for me was Kempny and Vrana. In a bad way. Kempny was flopping around all over the place. And Vrana was driving me crazy. He floated between center ice and the Jets Blueline all game. He might be the worst floater in the league.


Damn if I wasn’t thinking the same thing, Kollie!


Kempny is not looking good at all.


And Vrana, other than the speed on his fast breaks,  doesn’t move his legs much anymore, and in my opinion, is actually playing LESS THAN a 100 foot game.Its like he’s just looking for breakaways!  Seems kind of selfish!  And I’m actually a fan normally, of both Jake and Kempny.  But facts are facts!!


Rush 
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 27, 2020, 11:16:16 PM Eastern

Good Lord man.  We'd have to get past the Hens anyway.
What good do you see getting a new HC would do now? ???  New HC learning about the plaers at this time?  Cmon! 

Stop it  I need to sleep.


Lil’. The real question may be what HARM could it do??😁
In all seriousness, though, I’ve seen virtually nothing that Rierden does, either PRO. or CON, that seems to have ANY effect on what happens with this team on the ice!


IMO,  The point is we don’t see anything GOOD, or BAD, that obviously shows itself, as something with Rierden’s signature on it!
 The guy is practically INVISIBLE!!.....and THAT is not at all good,If you’re the head coach of a team where it’s obvious, even to the fans,  what the issues are!!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 11:31:08 PM Eastern

Lil’. The real question may be what HARM could it do??😁
In all seriousness, though, I’ve seen virtually nothing that Rierden does, either PRO. or CON, that seems to have ANY effect on what happens with this team on the ice!


IMO,  The point is we don’t see anything GOOD, or BAD, that obviously shows itself, as something with Rierden’s signature on it!
 The guy is practically INVISIBLE!!.....and THAT is not at all good,If you’re the head coach of a team where it’s obvious, even to the fans,  what the issues are!!


Rush

WHO would you replace him with?
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Thursday February 27, 2020, 11:50:05 PM Eastern
It took Trotz 3 years to get our team to a Stanley Cup and he was an experienced Head Coach.  Many people on here were questioning HIM and calling for HIS head, remember???    Remember?

Jump off that bandwgon luv and THINK.

We WILL  make the playoffs.  if we didn't, then there is that dsicussion.
HOW we do in the playoffs is another.

Now is the most stupid time to talk about firiing an HC.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: Surreylily on Friday February 28, 2020, 12:18:31 AM Eastern

Hypothetical question...


Lose to Pens in regular season -> fire TR -> Caps win Stanley Cup in 2020


OR


Crush Pens in regular season -> don't fire TR -> Caps exit first round


Which would you choose?



Just checked.   Neither you, nor Apace have posted in the "Coaching" thread.........  Strange since you both seem so passionae about it............  Just sayin'  ..   ...   ...    ... luv....... :raspberry:
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Friday February 28, 2020, 07:56:06 AM Eastern
BESIDES! 

WHO would you get to replace him?  Your brother in law?  Who is available and competant and willing NOW, exactly?
EXACTLY!
'Cos having a shiny new coach is really vonna help our tem now. 

SHEESH!


Plenty of coaches available. Laviolette, Gallant, Boudreau, DeBoer, and a handful of others. Not saying we'd want them all, but they pretty much all are more experienced than TR.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: zerofox on Friday February 28, 2020, 07:59:37 AM Eastern

 It’s a no brainer, Zero!!.............DA CUP!!


Let’s add in sweeping the Hens, in four games in the second round of the playoffs to get there!!👍👍


Rush


Thank you lol. And that's my point. If TR is standing in our way of the Cup, and a better coach can get us the Cup, and if the only way we could get that better coach was failing in that Pitt game a few games ago and getting TR fired, I would take it in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: alta on Friday February 28, 2020, 10:13:35 AM Eastern

Plenty of coaches available. Laviolette, Gallant, Boudreau, DeBoer, and a handful of others. Not saying we'd want them all, but they pretty much all are more experienced than TR.


BB will never be a coach of OV again, garunteed
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Friday February 28, 2020, 11:14:45 AM Eastern

BB will never be a coach of OV again, garunteed


Agree 100%
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: richkrt99 on Friday February 28, 2020, 11:43:19 AM Eastern
You guys are all high and living in Fantasy Land if you think TR will be fired this season/


What viable reason would you give for firing?  Stating "because he sucks" is not a viable reason.
What grounds do you have for firing the guy?  Because the Caps are in lowly 1st place in the division?  Because they are only 3rd in the entire NHL?
Oh, maybe because our superstar Ovi is struggling mightily with this system and can't score goals and draw in fans anymore?
You don't fire a guy cause he's tall and goofy and the board fans don't like him.  If there was a team dynamic that caused the players to turn on him, then okay, but that has NOT happened with this team.


I don't believe TR is a great coach.  I never liked the choice, but understand the process and commitment the team made to him.
Having said that, there's no way they fire him at this point in the season based on the level of success (more importantly standings points) the team has this year.
The caps have 18 games left.  What veteran coach would want to come in at this point to a team that fired a head coach that was in 1st place?  What effective changes could he make with essentially 4 weeks left in the season?  Not saying it isn't possible, but it won't happen.


For better or worse, the Caps are committed to the horse they rode in on at this point.


I doubt very much the Caps would even fire TR after we fail to progress in the playoffs (again).









Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Friday February 28, 2020, 02:27:08 PM Eastern
 I’m gonna try to form a response covering the last posts from Lily, Zero, and Rich, in this post.


So, Lily asks me WHO, would I replace Rierden with?
Zero says Rierden is standing in the way, or hurting our chances at getting another Cup, and
Rich, says we’re committed too deeply to Rierden, already, as a franchise, AND that the Caps high position, both in the Metro, and the entire league, counters any justification for firing him!


Now, let me step back a bit, before replying, in order to apply my ages old theory, that the Caps PLAYERS, basically DO WHAT THEY WANT, this is IRREGARDLESS, of ANYONE, who is Head Coach!!


This applies to the Caps players overall commitment level, motivation, effort output, lack of energy, ability/desire of execution, etc.......it does NOT apply to, game plan, opponent assessment, PK/PP strategy, and other CONCRETE  coaching duties, that COACHES are also responsible for!


My claim has ALWAYS been that NO COACH, can change these guys attitudes, with any noticeable reliability! Attempting to change the “mental core” of this team, is like trying to UNSPOIL an 18 year old, AFTER they’ve been extremely SPOILED for the first 17 years of their childhood!!
 Ever tried it, or seen any parents who have attempted to do it???
IT AINT HAPPENING, PERIOD!!!  That is the reality!


 With this backdrop, we now respond to Lily, Zero, and Rich’s posts:


First, to Rich.  I agree that Rierden will not be fired!  He is NOT going anywhere for the exact reasons you state!!   This also, however, has nothing to do with whether he is an innocuous, meaningless, coach!
I happen to believe that the caps being in first place, OR if they were in last place in the division, would have not much to do with Rierdens effect on the team!  In other words, the CAPS are leading the division now, because they WANT to, themselves!  And I admit this is a unique characteristic to only a FEW elite teams in the NHL, who have the unique ability to do this, in the first place!


To Zero, I, of course, like you, think Rierden sucks, BUT,  I don’t think TR stands in the way of whether we get another Cup, or not!
I also feel that a different Head Coach, would NOT change our chances of getting a Cup, one way or the other!


 My contention IS, that the only barrier standing in the way of us getting a Cup this year,  are the PLAYERS THEMSELVES, and whether or not they want to conform their attitudes together, and commit to it, as they did in 2018!  I believe only they, the players, know!


 And as fickle, and difficult, as it is to win the Stanley Cup, even if the players DO all commit to it in the playoffs, and are basically on the same page, it doesn’t GUARANTEE a Cup, but just makes the chances of getting one much more likely, for us!


To Lily, as to WHO, would be a good replacement for Rierden?
 As odd as my answer may seem, I feel it’s consistent with my prior comments on the subject.  For me, the true answer is.....NOBODY!!  It simply doesn’t matter WHO is in the head-coaching spot, for us, in particular,  for the very reasons I’ve stated!


I believe that the majority of this teams problems, even mostly the problem with their poor defensive skills, as a whole, originate from MENTAL...motivation/effort/complacent/laziness issues!!  I don’t think there is any coach, anywhere, that can solve this huge, historical, and deeply dug in, problem!
I think it gets resolved ONLY when the teams leaders, and players, DECIDE, that week, or that night, or for that period, that they are going to STEP IT UP!
We’ve seen this happen OVER and OVER again!!


In THEORY,  it SHOULD, be resolvable by good, strong, disciplined, coaching!!
In PRACTICAL REALITY, We, as fans, have witnessed, with our OWN EYES, over several of the last seasons, with both Trotz, and Rierden, that IT HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED AT ALL?


I personally, have seen enough proof, And am out of patience to wait for any more proof,  and therefore don’t have the EXPECTATIONS, that this huge issue could EVER be resolved by coaching!


 Our CORE is just too cocky and full of themselves, at the heart of it, EVEN THOUGH they are generally considered, and rightfully so, a very WINNING hockey team!!






Rush







Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: KollieOlizig on Friday February 28, 2020, 06:34:47 PM Eastern
It took Trotz 3 years to get our team to a Stanley Cup and he was an experienced Head Coach.  Many people on here were questioning HIM and calling for HIS head, remember???    Remember?

Jump off that bandwgon luv and THINK.

We WILL  make the playoffs.  if we didn't, then there is that dsicussion.
HOW we do in the playoffs is another.

Now is the most stupid time to talk about firiing an HC.
    Definitely not the time to be replacing your head coach.  But I wouldn't comparing our coach to Trotz. Trotz took over a very undisciplined team and turned them into a very good defensive team as soon as he got there. Infact one of his seasons here we allowed the fewest goals in the NHL. As soon as Reirden took over we went back to that undisciplined team.
    I would have no problem at all if Reirden was fired. I didn't like him as our coach from the get go. Probably because I was Trotz supporter and liked his coaching style.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Friday February 28, 2020, 07:22:38 PM Eastern
    Definitely not the time to be replacing your head coach.  But I wouldn't comparing our coach to Trotz. Trotz took over a very undisciplined team and turned them into a very good defensive team as soon as he got there. Infact one of his seasons here we allowed the fewest goals in the NHL. As soon as Reirden took over we went back to that undisciplined team.
    I would have no problem at all if Reirden was fired. I didn't like him as our coach from the get go. Probably because I was Trotz supporter and liked his coaching style.


Agreed!
Trotz was the only coach in the Ovi era to even be able to ADDRESS discipline, effort, and buying in to the game plans he set for the team as a whole!


 In my opinion, I don’t think he necessarily, “solved”, the “low effort” issues, but he addressed, and dealt with them, way more effectively, and he TOLERATED such things, much less often!  He was much more effective, and CLEAR, in delivering INDIVIDUAL expectations to each player, and held them more accountable as such!!  He did not like individual player SELFISHNESS, and would “reset“ players, occasionally, if they thought their heads got too big!


 You could actually see tangible results of Trotz’s coaching, evidenced, on the ice, whereas with Rierden it is a completely blurry picture as too WHERE, or WHAT, if any, the effects of his coaching influence is!!


Rierden, most likely, fits better as an asst. Coach.  I guess the Capitals felt they owed him a shot, and maybe that decision was made even easier, since Trotz knew he wasn’t returning, and we had just won a Stanley Cup.  I will say as assistant coaches I always liked Lambert better than Rierden, and I’m not a big fan of Forsythe, either!


Rush
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: BlackIce on Saturday February 29, 2020, 08:01:54 AM Eastern
Interestingly, we aren't alone in the "woe is us" boat.  It appears at the moment, as the season heads to March, that most of the Metro Division, except for Philly, is now in a rut also.  It almost feels as if the strong competition in the Metro this year has spurred the teams that have been toward the top to efforts to maintain or improve their position, and they are now hitting a wall, while Philly and the Rangers, two teams lying toward the bottom and "waiting in the weeds" are now coming on stronger.  With regard to the Caps, JJ Regan had been predicting this drop-off ever since November.


There can be a psychological advantage to being a team that no one is really paying attention to.  And there can be psychological burdens attached to great expectations.  I prefer to look at it as the ebbs and flows of a long, wearing season that, in the end, doesn't mean squat to a lot of fans, as long as their team makes the playoffs.
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Sunday March 01, 2020, 01:12:57 AM Eastern
Interestingly, we aren't alone in the "woe is us" boat.  It appears at the moment, as the season heads to March, that most of the Metro Division, except for Philly, is now in a rut also.  It almost feels as if the strong competition in the Metro this year has spurred the teams that have been toward the top to efforts to maintain or improve their position, and they are now hitting a wall, while Philly and the Rangers, two teams lying toward the bottom and "waiting in the weeds" are now coming on stronger.  With regard to the Caps, JJ Regan had been predicting this drop-off ever since November.


There can be a psychological advantage to being a team that no one is really paying attention to.  And there can be psychological burdens attached to great expectations.  I prefer to look at it as the ebbs and flows of a long, wearing season that, in the end, doesn't mean squat to a lot of fans, as long as their team makes the playoffs.


Pretty good info, and interesting observation on the Metro situation, Black!👍
With the exception of the Pens and Islanders, I hadn’t been keeping very close tabs on our fellow Metro buddies lately!


 As you’ve mentioned, both Pittsburgh and Islanders have been slumping, while Philly has been quite hot, and the Rangers are also making themselves heard!


 At the time of this post, the Islanders have already lost again today, and Pittsburgh is down one nothing in the second period to a near bottom feeder San Jose team,  and the Pens lost yesterday as well!


Definitely agree also with both the mental advantages, and pressures that you’ve mentioned, can come with being at the top, OR, being hidden somewhere in the middle of the league!


Lastly, I think you hit on a good subject having to do with fans, and the attitudes, they retain, throughout the season, as they experience the ups and downs, as their team drives towards the playoffs!


As you say, while also allying yourself, with those many multitudes of fans who are more tolerable, or accepting, of the regular season, “ebbs and flows”, SO LONG AS, their team gets to the playoffs.


This really does help to define, and understand better, for me, as an old schooler, the many, many, fans that aren’t as rattled about the ups and downs, VS, the many, like me, who get quite unnerved, and are less tolerant, and the “ebbs and flows”, DO mean squat, even though their team makes the playoffs!
It helps illuminate the ways, two different groups of fans view their hockey fan experience!


Sincerely, I say that neither view is right, wrong, better or worse, than the other!  It’s more like different ways to slice an apple, and it’s very interesting to be aware of, IMO!!👍


 The group of fans, of your ilk, seem to see things more in the MACRO, where the overarching goal, and top priority, is making the playoffs, with a LESSER emphasis/focus, on examining how we played, in order to ARRIVE, at playoff time!!👍
Resulting in LESS anxiety during the season, as long as the playoffs are made, but possibly experiencing a bigger disappointment, than the other fan group, if the team doesn’t make the playoffs! Knowing WHY they didn’t make the playoffs doesn’t help much, as the team just didn’t fulfill their goal!


The fan group I tend to be like, seem to see it more MICRO, where focus on the details, that contribute to our teams shortcomings, throughout the season, are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, as it fulfills a more stronger desire, even possibly a NEED, to understand and make sense, personally to us, as to WHY, our team either DID, or DID NOT, make the playoffs!!👍
 This may result in more anxiety during the regular season,  and of course, great disappointment if their team doesn’t qualify for the playoffs, however, accompanied with a sense of understanding as to why it all happened, adding some possible help with acceptance!


Ya know, it is kind of funny to imagine all the members that I see posting here, as to whether they fall more likely into the first or second group, MACRO, or MICRO, or a little bit of both!!😁😁


Both groups ways of thinking, are hopefully designed to lessen the suicide rate amongst ALL fans, if we God forbid, DON’T make the playoffs!!😂🤣😂


Good post Black!


Rush


UPDATE: Hens LOSE to the Sharks, 5-0!!👍👍👍
( you’re right Black, we’re not the only ones with “WOES“)😁











 
Title: Re: G64 Capitals @ Jets 8:00pm Thu Feb 27, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, TSN3
Post by: RavenCp on Sunday March 01, 2020, 01:37:56 PM Eastern

BB will never be a coach of OV again, garunteed
I hope BB won't come back. Observing Caps during the last ten years. Trotz was the best coach. I would say Caps had a very good shot for SC at least for three seasons. Two times Pens crossed the road and won, but Caps may be were a better team compression to the one which won SC. BB as well as TR were lucky to be with Caps, but ultimately the team made them look better, and not other way around.