Washington Capitals Fan Forum

Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: alta on Friday February 14, 2020, 03:29:30 PM Eastern

Title: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: alta on Friday February 14, 2020, 03:29:30 PM Eastern
The trade deadline is Feb 24, the Caps don't have much to work with


https://novacapsfans.com/2020/02/14/report-capitals-have-strong-interest-in-kings-trevor-lewis-inquired-about-rangers-chris-kreider/#more-229660 (https://novacapsfans.com/2020/02/14/report-capitals-have-strong-interest-in-kings-trevor-lewis-inquired-about-rangers-chris-kreider/#more-229660)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday February 15, 2020, 02:45:02 PM Eastern
The biggest names right now are Backes, Martinez and Nurse

Of these, Martinez a left handed D with 2yrs at 4mil is the best option for the Caps.  The guy would be our best overall D by MILES.  He also has two cups and is a proven playoff performer

SCOUTING REPORT
Is a strong, swift and well-balanced skater with two-way ability. Has solid puck-moving and passing skills, as well as defensive acumen. Usually keeps things simple and limits mistakes. Lacks consistency in terms of offensive production at the National Hockey League level. Is not overly physical, despite pretty decent size. Could stand to shoot the puck more. (http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/5300)


The issue is, would we be able to offer enough to the Kings (ie Orlov, SeigyChrist), but more so would GMBM do it.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday February 15, 2020, 03:28:44 PM Eastern
Karlsson (SJS) is out for the year.  So, SJS will be looking for a right handed D
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Saturday February 15, 2020, 04:36:45 PM Eastern
I've read the Caps only have about $3M of cap space avalible,  which means they'd have to trade or wave someone if they brought in another player
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday February 15, 2020, 05:47:42 PM Eastern
I'd do a straight up trade - Dylan for Smiffy, in a heartbeat.
We lose the salary we gain a Dman.    ;)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Saturday February 15, 2020, 07:17:47 PM Eastern
I'd do a straight up trade - Dylan for Smiffy, in a heartbeat.
We lose the salary we gain a Dman.    ;)



I would do that in a second!  Unfortunately, Dylan is the chosen one and will retire in his Caps jersey....
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: KollieOlizig on Saturday February 15, 2020, 07:53:25 PM Eastern
The biggest names right now are Backes, Martinez and Nurse

Of these, Martinez a left handed D with 2yrs at 4mil is the best option for the Caps.  The guy would be our best overall D by MILES.  He also has two cups and is a proven playoff performer

SCOUTING REPORT
Is a strong, swift and well-balanced skater with two-way ability. Has solid puck-moving and passing skills, as well as defensive acumen. Usually keeps things simple and limits mistakes. Lacks consistency in terms of offensive production at the National Hockey League level. Is not overly physical, despite pretty decent size. Could stand to shoot the puck more. (http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/5300)


The issue is, would we be able to offer enough to the Kings (ie Orlov, SeigyChrist), but more so would GMBM do it.
     The only problem is that we need a right handed defenceman more than a lefty.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Saturday February 15, 2020, 08:16:14 PM Eastern

I would do that in a second!  Unfortunately, Dylan is the chosen one and will retire in his Caps jersey....


They thought that of Green too...
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: zerofox on Sunday February 16, 2020, 10:48:10 AM Eastern
We need a defensive upgrade and a coaching staff upgrade.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Sunday February 16, 2020, 11:40:13 AM Eastern
     The only problem is that we need a right handed defenceman more than a lefty.
Fair enough, but their is something to be said that Nisky and Jensen fell off the proverbial cliff when regularly paired with Orlov. While Johnny Norris has a career year while rarely being paired with him.


Given that, it’s reasonable that moving and upgrading Orlov would benefit the entire D


(In all honesty, one of the reasons I want Martinez is we haven’t had a Made In Detroit player since Schmidt, and I’d love to see him and Jensen repin the FatherCity for The Caps 🤣🤣)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Sunday February 16, 2020, 07:57:15 PM Eastern
They need to trade Orlov before everyone else catches on that he's a dope. Jensen too.. And the longer Gudas is here, the dopier he gets as well!  :) :smirk:


 Im not sayin shit about Johnny Norris.. At least he racks up points while he sucks on D..


Kempney needs tampons since he got hurt. Sigs Im not sure about yet.. The Furvy dude they sent back is probably the best one of the bunch..  :raspberry:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Monday February 17, 2020, 08:18:09 AM Eastern

 Im not sayin shit about Johnny Norris.. At least he racks up points while he sucks on D..



 :clap:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday February 17, 2020, 01:22:44 PM Eastern
Gotta bring in somebody to replace either Kempney of Jensen. They are basically the same guy.  Jenson skates a little better, but they both just get pushed around an run over and they both make a ton of mistakes.  Caps management will probably stick with Kempney longer, so Jensen is the likely one out.  Maybe Furvy can step in, but if they are thinking that, they better get him up here now and get some games in before the playoffs.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: KollieOlizig on Monday February 17, 2020, 06:08:49 PM Eastern
Fair enough, but their is something to be said that Nisky and Jensen fell off the proverbial cliff when regularly paired with Orlov. While Johnny Norris has a career year while rarely being paired with him.


Given that, it’s reasonable that moving and upgrading Orlov would benefit the entire D


(In all honesty, one of the reasons I want Martinez is we haven’t had a Made In Detroit player since Schmidt, and I’d love to see him and Jensen repin the FatherCity for The Caps 🤣🤣)
     Please don't tell me that you are a Jensen supporter.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Monday February 17, 2020, 06:42:07 PM Eastern
     Please don't tell me that you are a Jensen supporter.
More of a sympathizer.  He was solid his whole career, until playing with Orlov. 


If he was moved away from him and was paired with Kempy, Lewington (Heh I wish), or even SeiggyChrist and was still playing this bad I’d be right there with you.  But I most consider the  similarities of the last two that were paired with Orlov, had thier worst years.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: KollieOlizig on Monday February 17, 2020, 06:54:41 PM Eastern
More of a sympathizer.  He was solid his whole career, until playing with Orlov. 


If he was moved away from him and was paired with Kempy, Lewington (Heh I wish), or even SeiggyChrist and was still playing this bad I’d be right there with you.  But I most consider the  similarities of the last two that were paired with Orlov, had thier worst years.
    Sorry but I've seen Jensen play with the Wings. I never saw anything more than mediocrisy from him. His poor play is more noticeable here because our defensive system sucks. Easy to blame his partner but Jensen has definitely been the weak link on that pair. It's one mistake after another. It wouldn't be so bad if he contributed in the offensive zone.
     You mentioned Lewington. I like him. I like his physical play. I don't think he has the skill and quickness to be a regular NHL defenceman. I also like Connor Hobbs as a right handed dman but I don't think he will crack the NHL. We have a couple of lefties in Fehrevary and Alexeyev that could be solid NHL dmen.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 09:46:59 AM Eastern
Well they got 6 days to shake it up and make something happen.. Even a milk shake is better then no shake..
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 04:17:49 PM Eastern
Dillon traded to Caps.


https://www.nhl.com/news/brenden-dillon-traded-to-washington-by-san-jose/c-315222470?tid=278542340 (https://www.nhl.com/news/brenden-dillon-traded-to-washington-by-san-jose/c-315222470?tid=278542340)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 04:46:09 PM Eastern
Caps got him for trade picks. It also means someone is getting waived. Dillan is in the final year of his contract... he's a rental. I hate rentals.

I don't know anything about this guy other than the couple times I've seen him play against the Caps, is he any good??


according to this, he fits in under the cap..

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brenden-dillon (https://www.capfriendly.com/players/brenden-dillon)

so no one needs to get waived for money, but someone has to sit to make room
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: apace41 on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 05:01:35 PM Eastern
Think Orpik and Gudas.  Tough, strong, stay at home, no offensive upside.  Probably a good fit for a team that can't get out of it's own way in the defensive end.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 06:12:59 PM Eastern
This, could be, really damn awesome, and will be very interesting to see how the lineup cards get filled out🤣


Dillon is Orpik with more strength, backbone and mean streak.  He’s also a more all around player than Gudas.


What will be interesting is averaged near 18 min a game the past 3 years,  on a team that can arguably had one of the top DCorps in the league.  He’s gonna need that here, not left on Toddy’s “3rd Pair” and PK like the Caps normally do to any D that can hit better than turn the puck over.


Either way, we “should” expect Orlov or SeiggyChrist to be moved soon, (dear god I hope it’s Orlov), but this is the Caps and rotating all 4 LDs when you have 2-3 that be called up, wouldn’t be a surprise.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 06:20:05 PM Eastern
Big boy! They retained 50% of his salary, so not sure who, if anyone will be moved?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 06:28:43 PM Eastern

I hate rental deals for draft choices as it leaves the farm system thin (like right now).  However, something had to be done and I like that they got this guy.  Paid a pretty steep price, but at least not a first rounder.  My bet is they sit Jenson.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 06:40:02 PM Eastern
    Sorry but I've seen Jensen play with the Wings. I never saw anything more than mediocrisy from him. His poor play is more noticeable here because our defensive system sucks. Easy to blame his partner but Jensen has definitely been the weak link on that pair. It's one mistake after another. It wouldn't be so bad if he contributed in the offensive zone.
     You mentioned Lewington. I like him. I like his physical play. I don't think he has the skill and quickness to be a regular NHL defenceman. I also like Connor Hobbs as a right handed dman but I don't think he will crack the NHL. We have a couple of lefties in Fehrevary and Alexeyev that could be solid NHL dmen.
You’re not wrong about Jensen, but his mistakes are way up and his intensity down this year.  Why he is accountable for his shitty play this year, the pond hockey system, which includes his “engraved in stone” pairing need to be considered. 


I remember he was generally solid when he played with Hooks.  So it would be interesting to see if he was at least paired with Kempy or now Dillon, if the mistakes would go down, and the intensity would come back.


If he still plays this bad after that, then hell with him.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: KollieOlizig on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 06:53:11 PM Eastern
You’re not wrong about Jensen, but his mistakes are way up and his intensity down this year.  Why he is accountable for his shitty play this year, the pond hockey system, which includes his “engraved in stone” pairing need to be considered. 


I remember he was generally solid when he played with Hooks.  So it would be interesting to see if he was at least paired with Kempy or now Dillon, if the mistakes would go down, and the intensity would come back.


If he still plays this bad after that, then hell with him.
       I'm not sure there is a fix. Our entire d core sucks right now. Carlson and Kempny have been very bad for quite a few games now. Orlov and Jensen have been inconsistent all season. Gudas has been alright but has made some bad mistakes in recent games. Seigenthaler might be our most dependable defender. That's not good.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 07:25:45 PM Eastern
Seigs is the only one I wouldn’t bench right now. I could see Jensen doing better with a different pairing, and as I noted a few games ago, I’m not sure Kempny is fully healed. I think the odd man out in my opinion is Orlov. I’d love to see Carlson get scratched, but he’s making too much money. Fereheverwhatever is pretty close to a full time job in DC too. So, maybe trade Orlov, then dump either Jensen or Kempny if their game doesn’t pick up to make a spot for the kid.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: justwincaps on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 08:03:14 PM Eastern
So what do we think the pairings will be?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: zerofox on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 08:17:54 PM Eastern
Seems like a good move. But 1 move doesn't turn a garbage defense into an elite defense overnight. I think coaching is a much bigger problem...
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 08:46:01 PM Eastern
My post from 2/4:


If the Caps really wanted to make a run at this thing, they'd pursue Brenden Dillon from SJ.  He's only a -3 on a bottomfeeder and leads the team in hits with 161.  He sounds exactly like what the doctor ordered to shore up this defense.


Guess someone was reading our forum. ;D

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: waynerivers on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 08:46:52 PM Eastern
Seems like a good move. But 1 move doesn't turn a garbage defense into an elite defense overnight. I think coaching is a much bigger problem...


Agreed.  It's one step in a multi step process.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: ArJunaZ on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 09:08:25 PM Eastern
Great news!
Now we have Dillon and Dillan on defense.   :snicker:

Putting on my Johnny Carson turban here is my guess at how the new lines finally settle.

6-Kempny --  74-Carlson
4-Dillon -- 3-Jensen
9-Orlov --  33-Gudas

34-Siegenthaler Rotating in/out as backup
           
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 10:07:28 PM Eastern
Seems like a good move. But 1 move doesn't turn a garbage defense into an elite defense overnight. I think coaching is a much bigger problem...


Dillon will save us!!  :wackysmile: :rofl: 


Yea, Reirden done instilled some pondfire hockey mentality and now he's trying to have em' play over 100'.. Gonna be like pulling teeth with this bunch of Stanley Cup Super Stars..  :smirk:  Be cool if they did move Orlov, but Im not $eeing it. Would definitely grab their attention though. Hopefully Dillon can spark em' a little too..
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: ArJunaZ on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 10:15:39 PM Eastern
I don't see them moving Orlov unless they really need the cap space of his 5 mil contract.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Tuesday February 18, 2020, 10:35:45 PM Eastern
I don't see them moving Orlov unless they really need the cap space of his 5 mil contract.


rumors are the Caps aren’t done, if so, they need to dump salary
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 12:12:27 AM Eastern
Best I can tell, Dillen is a stay at home, tougher, DEFENSIVE defenseman.
He’s actually pretty BIG, at least relative to our D men.
Depending on where you get your stats, He is between 6’ 3”, 215 OR 6’ 4”, 225!
 He would then be our biggest D man overall.


GMBM has been routinely looking for these stay at home D guys, ever since the Shattenkirk trade BUST!!


An article in the Caps app suggests that Kempny may be moved down to 2nd pairing, giving Dillen a serious look, paired with Carlson.
This looks to me like management prioritizing the defensive demise, especially as it pertains to the Carlson/Kempny #1 pairing!


Let’s remember that when Kempny first arrived, the big news was how he ELEVATED the defensive play  on the Carlson, #1 D line, retrieving, and handling, at least 75-80% of pucks entering our zone, to be collected, and sent back up the other way!
This was by design, from management, which took away much of the potential for a Carlson “mistake”, improving our ability to bring the puck up from our zone, AND allowing Carlson to become more involved with improving his offensive skills, which was also SANCTIONED, by management!


The Carlson/Kempny experiment, proved to be a GREAT decision, by GMBM, and he received huge accolades for making the trade, for a number of good reasons, to include winning the CUP!!


THEN....Kempny suffered a MAJOR, debilitating injury!
All the while, Carlson had been receiving “specialized”, offensive training, all through the 2018-2019 season, and we started to see Carlson’s training start to pay off, and even get better, during the 1st half of this 2019-2020 season!
Hell... Carlson led the entire league in points, for defenseman, until getting passed sometime in January 2020!


One problem though....Upon Kempnys return this season, we are seeing that he is not the same Mikal Kempny, that we had seen PRIOR to his injury!


He is noticeably slower, and different! He is surely, a worse player, than he was, and in most all the phases of his game!  I can only guess, as I have no proof in reading anything recently, about his physical condition, but it is the most logical of reasons, to assume that it is injury related.


Why the emphasis about Kempnys issues? Well, IMO, it directly relates to John Carlson’s performance on BOTH sides of the ice!


Bare with me here, in that if Kempny is LESS effective, NOW, in his defensive responsibilities, and was shouldering quite a bit more of the defensive load, then, logically, Carlson is exposed to NOW, having to shoulder MORE of the D load, which, by nature, allows Carly LESS time to affect his offensive play!


We have certainly seen Carly’s production numbers tank since early January! Additionally we see Carlson’s poor defensive skills, being highly EXPOSED again, relative to Kempnys shortcomings, and they are many from Kempny, also!!  ( just talking about our #1 D pairing, specifically.  I’m fully aware our entire D has bad issues right now,  so there’s plenty of blame to go around)!!


 THIS, I believe, may be what GMBM had in mind with obtaining Brenden Dillen!  AND why we just might see how our new recruit fits with Mr. John Carlson!


I sure hope the new guy has some speed.  He’s going to need it back there with Johnny Norris as his sidekick!😁


Rush





Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 07:43:26 AM Eastern

Agreed.  It's one step in a multi step process.
The rest of steps primarily involve changing the pond hockey system. . . But I doubt that’s gonna happen.


BTW, can you make it Saturday?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 07:50:08 AM Eastern
Great news!
Now we have Dillon and Dillan on defense.   :snicker:

Putting on my Johnny Carson turban here is my guess at how the new lines finally settle.

6-Kempny --  74-Carlson
4-Dillon -- 3-Jensen
9-Orlov --  33-Gudas

34-Siegenthaler Rotating in/out as backup
         
I can almost bet, sans other trades, it will start as, and continue for a while as
Kempny — “Jonny Norris”
Orlov — Jensen
Dillon —  Gudas


Dillon is already our best all around D, but he fits Toddies sterotype “3rd pair D”.   There should be ample concern that with out a move, Dillon is just gonna get the same minutes Gudas does, ie not enough)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 07:57:23 AM Eastern
Here’s Dillons scouting report🤘🤘🤘🤘😈

Has tremendous size (6-4, 225 pounds) for a National Hockey League defenseman. Is capable of playing a physical role in the NHL. Can produce offense at lower levels. Needs to become a more consistent defender and tighten up his game in order to make a bigger impact at the highest level. Won't put up big offensive numbers in the NHL (http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/7513). (http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/7513)


Long Range Potential:Solid, physical defenseman. (http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/player/7513)


I found this article on the same site.  Highlights: Sharks are #1 in PK (did not know that), hes been paired with two real Norris caliber Dman: Burns and Karlsson, most of this year and last. (https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/why-it-was-worth-a-slight-overpay-to-make-brenden-dillon-a-washington-capital)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 08:35:05 AM Eastern
Oh and we also gained a littke enforcement., “As the video clearly shows”, he’s an upper tier middleweight like Hathaway:
https://youtu.be/Cd1axsDefq8 (https://youtu.be/Cd1axsDefq8)


This was a a HELLACIOUS old-school, real man scrap!!
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 12:33:15 PM Eastern
Dillon being paired with Carlson makes the most sense, that way the Caps have an actual defenseman on the ice during that shift.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 12:42:08 PM Eastern

https://youtu.be/Cd1axsDefq8 (https://youtu.be/Cd1axsDefq8)



that was a good one!
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 12:48:41 PM Eastern
Oh and we also gained a littke enforcement., “As the video clearly shows”, he’s an upper tier middleweight like Hathaway:
https://youtu.be/Cd1axsDefq8 (https://youtu.be/Cd1axsDefq8)


This was a a HELLACIOUS old-school, real man scrap!!


Good vid, buddy!👍


Rush
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 03:27:39 PM Eastern

No way they trade Orlov.  Management is committed to him.  I also don't see them benching Ziggy.  He has been our best all around defenseman and they have to see that.  I also think they are committed to Kempney because he made them look smart for getting him and helping get the Cup.  That leaves Jenson who I think will be the odd man out.


I actually hope they give Fehrvy more time down the stretch.  I would start him over Kempney right now, but that's not the Caps style.


Rush - good analysis on Carlson-Kempney!
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 03:55:22 PM Eastern
No way they trade Orlov.  Management is committed to him.  I also don't see them benching Ziggy.  He has been our best all around defenseman and they have to see that.  I also think they are committed to Kempney because he made them look smart for getting him and helping get the Cup.  That leaves Jenson who I think will be the odd man out.


I actually hope they give Fehrvy more time down the stretch.  I would start him over Kempney right now, but that's not the Caps style.


Rush - good analysis on Carlson-Kempney!
The issue is Jensen is a RHD. And none of the other LHDs can/will play the right side.

The best case would be move for cap space, get the picks back, and resign Dillon.  That is if we could get for Orlov.


Knowing the Caps, IF someone is moved it will be SiggyChrist, then they wont/can’t resign Dillon and Fehry will take over the 3rd LHD and we’ll be worse off next year
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: ArJunaZ on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 05:21:57 PM Eastern
Best I can tell, Dillen is a stay at home, tougher, DEFENSIVE defenseman.
He’s actually pretty BIG, at least relative to our D men.
Depending on where you get your stats, He is between 6’ 3”, 215 OR 6’ 4”, 225!
 He would then be our biggest D man overall.


GMBM has been routinely looking for these stay at home D guys, ever since the Shattenkirk trade BUST!!


An article in the Caps app suggests that Kempny may be moved down to 2nd pairing, giving Dillen a serious look, paired with Carlson.
This looks to me like management prioritizing the defensive demise, especially as it pertains to the Carlson/Kempny #1 pairing!


Let’s remember that when Kempny first arrived, the big news was how he ELEVATED the defensive play  on the Carlson, #1 D line, retrieving, and handling, at least 75-80% of pucks entering our zone, to be collected, and sent back up the other way!
This was by design, from management, which took away much of the potential for a Carlson “mistake”, improving our ability to bring the puck up from our zone, AND allowing Carlson to become more involved with improving his offensive skills, which was also SANCTIONED, by management!


The Carlson/Kempny experiment, proved to be a GREAT decision, by GMBM, and he received huge accolades for making the trade, for a number of good reasons, to include winning the CUP!!


THEN....Kempny suffered a MAJOR, debilitating injury!
All the while, Carlson had been receiving “specialized”, offensive training, all through the 2018-2019 season, and we started to see Carlson’s training start to pay off, and even get better, during the 1st half of this 2019-2020 season!
Hell... Carlson led the entire league in points, for defenseman, until getting passed sometime in January 2020!


One problem though....Upon Kempnys return this season, we are seeing that he is not the same Mikal Kempny, that we had seen PRIOR to his injury!


He is noticeably slower, and different! He is surely, a worse player, than he was, and in most all the phases of his game!  I can only guess, as I have no proof in reading anything recently, about his physical condition, but it is the most logical of reasons, to assume that it is injury related.


Why the emphasis about Kempnys issues? Well, IMO, it directly relates to John Carlson’s performance on BOTH sides of the ice!


Bare with me here, in that if Kempny is LESS effective, NOW, in his defensive responsibilities, and was shouldering quite a bit more of the defensive load, then, logically, Carlson is exposed to NOW, having to shoulder MORE of the D load, which, by nature, allows Carly LESS time to affect his offensive play!


We have certainly seen Carly’s production numbers tank since early January! Additionally we see Carlson’s poor defensive skills, being highly EXPOSED again, relative to Kempnys shortcomings, and they are many from Kempny, also!!  ( just talking about our #1 D pairing, specifically.  I’m fully aware our entire D has bad issues right now,  so there’s plenty of blame to go around)!!


 THIS, I believe, may be what GMBM had in mind with obtaining Brenden Dillen!  AND why we just might see how our new recruit fits with Mr. John Carlson!


I sure hope the new guy has some speed.  He’s going to need it back there with Johnny Norris as his sidekick!😁


Rush


I considered this when I made my Nostradamus prediction, but I figured Kempny was still a more reliable D-man than our current bottom four.  If Dillon is good enough to be on the top line then your reasoning makes a lot of sense. Maybe giving Kempny some rest and using him sparingly would help him get back to where he was or at least closer to that point.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 05:48:05 PM Eastern
The issue is Jensen is a RHD. And none of the other LHDs can/will play the right side.

The best case would be move for cap space, get the picks back, and resign Dillon.  That is if we could get for Orlov.


Knowing the Caps, IF someone is moved it will be SiggyChrist, then they wont/can’t resign Dillon and Fehry will take over the 3rd LHD and we’ll be worse off next year



Yes, you are probably right, although I think they might find a way to sit Jenson.  I would love it if they could extend Dillon as I hate the rental game and giving up valuable draft picks for nothing in the long run.


I would hate it if you were right on Ziggy.  He is young, cheap and really developing nicely.  I guess Bowey was the same way, but I don't think he was this good.


I don't see any way they trade Orlov.  He is one of their guys and the Caps just don't make big moves like that.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Wednesday February 19, 2020, 07:27:50 PM Eastern
Burt was "one of their guys".. He was just the odd man out, playing like crap and they couldn't afford him..  Orlov fits that same bill, imo.. He's WAY overpaid and if they "could" move him, I think they would. He offers jack shit really. He's below avg in the offensive zone and he's not a shut down D.. And he makes like 6.5 million a year. That some expensive hip checks, twice a month..  :clown: :poop:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 12:21:46 AM Eastern
“CAPS won’t trade Holtby” Alpha male says


https://www.nhl.com/news/washington-capitals-goalie-braden-holtby/c-315277386 (https://www.nhl.com/news/washington-capitals-goalie-braden-holtby/c-315277386)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 02:39:05 AM Eastern
In addition, GM is ready to upgrade forward line
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 05:45:47 AM Eastern
“CAPS won’t trade Holtby” Alpha male says


https://www.nhl.com/news/washington-capitals-goalie-braden-holtby/c-315277386 (https://www.nhl.com/news/washington-capitals-goalie-braden-holtby/c-315277386)
Well if Alan May said it 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 05:52:57 AM Eastern
Burt was "one of their guys".. He was just the odd man out, playing like crap and they couldn't afford him..  Orlov fits that same bill, imo.. He's WAY overpaid and if they "could" move him, I think they would. He offers jack shit really. He's below avg in the offensive zone and he's not a shut down D.. And he makes like 6.5 million a year. That some expensive hip checks, twice a month..  :clown: :poop:
Exactly.  He’s closing on 30 and hasn’t developed to a top level D he was signed as, (which is another issue all together)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: canadiancapman on Thursday February 20, 2020, 03:03:20 PM Eastern
Dillon is a great pick up. That's who I wanted GMBM to get and glad he did. We had the toughest team in the league before this and now we've added more grit. We'll be a tough team to play in the playoffs as much as you haters don't want to admit it. Try watching other teams. Everyone has weaknesses. For all you Kuznetsov haters out there give your head a shake. We've struggled mightily without him and much as you don't want to admit it. The guy should have won the Conn Smyth when we won the cup. They gave it to Ovie because the league wants their superstars to get the recognition.  Same reason Crosby won when Kessel should have.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 03:53:13 PM Eastern
Dillon is a great pick up. That's who I wanted GMBM to get and glad he did. We had the toughest team in the league before this and now we've added more grit. We'll be a tough team to play in the playoffs as much as you haters don't want to admit it. Try watching other teams. Everyone has weaknesses. For all you Kuznetsov haters out there give your head a shake. We've struggled mightily without him and much as you don't want to admit it. The guy should have won the Conn Smyth when we won the cup. They gave it to Ovie because the league wants their superstars to get the recognition.  Same reason Crosby won when Kessel should have.
For his cap hit, we could have 2, maybe 3 centers to result in just as many points, and way less mistakes, turnovers, face off losses, as we got for the EA level contract we gave Suzy.

Sure Suzy will help Ovie get 900 more than Bergeroin, Larkin, Kopitar, or Toews might.  But on no fuckin  planet that has anything more than a 12yo CoEd rec league is Suzy any where near the level of any of them

Suzy is here for Ovies record, not for Cups.   If the Caps only wanted Cups, they’d of spent the cap space better
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: waynerivers on Thursday February 20, 2020, 05:49:07 PM Eastern
The rest of steps primarily involve changing the pond hockey system. . . But I doubt that’s gonna happen.


BTW, can you make it Saturday?


Unfortunately, I have a prior commitment for Saturday but thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: waynerivers on Thursday February 20, 2020, 05:53:46 PM Eastern
I read on RMNB that the Caps may be interested in bringing Green back. :huh:   I'm hoping this is just BS being floated by somebody with no knowledge.  Green is EXACTLY the type of guy we do NOT need.  He doesn't even have any offensive skills left to speak of.  (10 points, -30 +/-)  I'd much rather have Jensen and that's saying something.  I also don't think Siegenthaler should be scratched for Dillon.  I'd sit Jensen, Orlov or Kempny ahead of him.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: canadiancapman on Thursday February 20, 2020, 06:26:17 PM Eastern
For his cap hit, we could have 2, maybe 3 centers to result in just as many points, and way less mistakes, turnovers, face off losses, as we got for the EA level contract we gave Suzy.

Sure Suzy will help Ovie get 900 more than Bergeroin, Larkin, Kopitar, or Toews might.  But on no fuckin  planet that has anything more than a 12yo CoEd rec league is Suzy any where near the level of any of them

Suzy is here for Ovies record, not for Cups.   If the Caps only wanted Cups, they’d of spent the cap space better


When he brings his "A" game he's a top 20 player in the league. Are you going to deny he didn't deserved the Conn Smyth when we won? Larkin? Are you kidding me right now? To put him in the same category as the other 3 you mentioned is a joke and shows your bias to Detroit. The only good thing about Detroit right now is their new rink. Also look at kopitar and toews contracts, their contracts are the reason both LA and Chicago are in the bottom half of the league.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 07:00:25 PM Eastern
I read on RMNB that the Caps may be interested in bringing Green back. :huh:   I'm hoping this is just BS being floated by somebody with no knowledge.  Green is EXACTLY the type of guy we do NOT need.  He doesn't even have any offensive skills left to speak of.  (10 points, -30 +/-)  I'd much rather have Jensen and that's saying something.  I also don't think Siegenthaler should be scratched for Dillon.  I'd sit Jensen, Orlov or Kempny ahead of him.


Amen Brother (on Green)
Amen Brother (on Ziggs).  Although....I think the Caps have no intention of letting Ziggy go, because he has showed so much promise and he is hugely cap friendly right now.  He is the very best bargain D the Caps have right now and has played as well as any of the D this year.  I think they sit him due to his age and IF they are contemplating trading Jensen/Kempny/Orlov, sitting them would look bad or devalue them (if that's possible)


I think they will hold onto Kempny.  Time will tell if he can recover to what we hope was true form (and not a career year last year).
I had high hopes for Orlov (over the last 4 years), but he just isn't progressing or performing anywhere near his contract/cap hit.  Trading Orlov...or more accurately unloading his contract would have the biggest impact and give the most flexibility to the Caps moving forward.  I'd be okay with unloading him and giving Ziggy a spot and giving Fevergetter a shot at real playing time.


Dillon will be a welcome addition to some much needed D skills, but he's just a rental (unless we unload Orlov).  Fucking Orlov makes roughly the same as Willy.....with about 1/10 the impact or potential.  You could go out and buy a real D with Orlov money.


Go Caps



Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday February 20, 2020, 11:09:10 PM Eastern
Dillon is a great pick up. That's who I wanted GMBM to get and glad he did. We had the toughest team in the league before this and now we've added more grit. We'll be a tough team to play in the playoffs as much as you haters don't want to admit it. Try watching other teams. Everyone has weaknesses. For all you Kuznetsov haters out there give your head a shake. We've struggled mightily without him and much as you don't want to admit it. The guy should have won the Conn Smyth when we won the cup. They gave it to Ovie because the league wants their superstars to get the recognition.  Same reason Crosby won when Kessel should have.


Hey Capman!


“We’ll be a tough team to play in the playoffs as much as YOU HATERS don’t want to admit it.”


So, your view is that the group of Caps fans, here, who DONT feel, at this point, that we will be a “TOUGH” team to play in the playoffs, just can’t bring ourselves to admit it, AND, are HATERS??


Secondly....”For all you Kuznetsov haters out there, give your head a shake. We’ve STRUGGLED MIGHTILY without him and as much as you don’t want to admit it.”


Well, the Caps have “struggled mightily”, generally speaking, since mid-December! (yes, Kuzy was also on the ice)!
Additionally, one of the few positives lately WAS Oshie, on a tear, with his best goal scoring hot streak of the season!!
BTW, Oshies goals, Lo and Behold, occurred right, smack-dab, in the middle of Kuzys ABSENCE, on the 2nd line, with Eller assuming Kuzys duties!


Not your best and brightest post, Capman!


Not so much the substance, but more, the condescending delivery of it.


Constructing the statement of your opinion, into a framework, where just “A”, or “B”, are the only, limited, choices, that YOU state, is ridiculous.
Where “A” =  Is your opinion
And “B” = Assumes those who disagree, with your opinion, are HATERS, AND (that we may not even realize we agree with you, BUT, just can’t bring ourselves to admit it)! HOLY MOLY, MAN!


Come on, guy!  I’ll admit I don’t even know you, I may have posted with you once or twice, I’m not sure. But the little I’ve seen of your prior posts have been fairly informative! So what gives??


Anyway, for the record, I HAVE spoken negatively of Kuzy, for reasons I feel, that I can justify.  I’m also not a Kuzy hater, as a result.


 Also, when I think of the ENTIRE capitals defensive game since mid December,  The two words that DEFINITELY DO NOT come to mind, are “Tough” and “Grit”!  Again, for reasons I feel I can justify!


 And yes, I do NOT believe, as a result, that they WILL, necessarily, be a “tough team to play in the playoffs”, either!  And, I’m also not a CAPS hater, because of it.


Folks can have differing opinions, and NOT be haters, for their disagreement!


Hell....We can even AGREE to DISAGREE, continue to respect one another, and it’s still ALL GOOD!👍
(Damn, I’m gettin’ kinda soft in my 60’s)😁


Be cool, and God Bless,


Rush





Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday February 21, 2020, 12:53:26 PM Eastern

When he brings his "A" game he's a top 20 player in the league. Are you going to deny he didn't deserved the Conn Smyth when we won? Larkin? Are you kidding me right now? To put him in the same category as the other 3 you mentioned is a joke and shows your bias to Detroit. The only good thing about Detroit right now is their new rink. Also look at kopitar and toews contracts, their contracts are the reason both LA and Chicago are in the bottom half of the league.
in the KHL or a coed Rec league maybe. But not in a league that requires strength, brains and intensity. The result being a complete two way player.  Kopitar and Toews have multiple Cups and Finals appearances, and are regular Selke nominees and/or winners.  Larkin doesn’t play with on a team that has Ovie and “Johnny Norris” to pad his stats, he has willing taken on being a REAL plAyer by exceeding in all aspects and situations.


Conn Smythe?  Maybe after Ovi (of course), Holts, Nick, Wilson, or Oshie.  All of which did more to win the Cup, despite the “stat sheet”


At 27, he’s a center with a 7.5 mil cap hit that still can’t break 50% faceoffs, can’t shut down top centers, routinely commits multiple turnovers and mistakes, and can’t play the PK.  That’s not good enough
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday February 21, 2020, 03:50:07 PM Eastern
I read on RMNB that the Caps may be interested in bringing Green back. :huh:   I'm hoping this is just BS being floated by somebody with no knowledge.  Green is EXACTLY the type of guy we do NOT need.  He doesn't even have any offensive skills left to speak of.  (10 points, -30 +/-)  I'd much rather have Jensen and that's saying something.  I also don't think Siegenthaler should be scratched for Dillon.  I'd sit Jensen, Orlov or Kempny ahead of him.
It’s believable and possible.  The Captain may very well take Jensen and his contract back to help rebuild there D, and it would be a favorable fit for the duration of his contract.


If we had Green back, we’d have the ingredients for Power Play evil.  Hes also improved his D about tenfold since he left the Caps.


The key would be resigning Green, as if we moved him for Jensen, we’d only have two RHDs signed . 


Also, this wouldn’t be a move for the playoffs, it’s be a move for Ovies push for the record. Brining Green back would sure help that, though would assuredly NOT help us in the playoffs
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: 4 Caps on Sunday February 23, 2020, 08:36:45 PM Eastern
Caps have acquired Ilya Kovalchuk for a third round pick and Montreal is paying half his salary.  This could be a huge addition, Caps have been having trouble scoring goals lately and Ilya could be a huge addition to the third line replacing Panik.  BMac is amazing, best GM in the league. 
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: RavenCp on Sunday February 23, 2020, 09:29:51 PM Eastern
Caps have acquired Ilya Kovakchuk for a third round pick and Montreal is paying half his salary.  This could be a huge addition, Caps have been having trouble scoring goals lately and Ilya could be a huge addition to the third line replacing Panik.  BMac is amazing, best GM in the league.
Very interesting, he needs to elevate his game, it didn't happen in LA and Montreal. But Hegalin wasn't shining with LA either. Ohh well, we'll see. I think Trotz was better with brining and developing players.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: 4 Caps on Sunday February 23, 2020, 09:42:57 PM Eastern
While he didn’t do much in LA, since he has been with Montreal he has done pretty well, I think he has  9 goals for them.  When we recently played Montreal I thought he looked good.  I am sure he will enjoy playing with Ovie and the other Russians on the team. 
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Sunday February 23, 2020, 09:58:24 PM Eastern
So another draft pick for a rental? I just don't see this group as contenders, regardless who they empty the wallet on.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 09:59:57 PM Eastern
Is this  for real?    8-0
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: BlackIce on Sunday February 23, 2020, 10:01:43 PM Eastern
I absolutely ABHOR this move.


(1) Where is Kovalchuk going to play?  People seem to think on the 3rd line, but do you really want that?  Hagelin/Eller/Panik has far from set the world on fire offensively, but they have turned into a solid shutdown line that you can use in the playoffs against elite opposing lines, which helps with matchups, especially on the road.  Besides, Kovalchuk is listed as a LW and the player he'd seemingly be replacing, Panik, has been on the right side.  Does Kovalchuk play both wings?  Heck, maybe he'd be better replacing Leipsic on the 4th line.


(2)  I realize people don't make much of +/-, but I think it's a stat that stabilizes only over a very long period of time.  Kovalchuk has been a negative +/- player for 14 of his 15 years in the league, and is a career minus almost 150.  Some of that may be the teams he has played on, but he certainly doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me as a player who brings a high ratio of benefit to risk. 


(3) This has the feel of the offensive equivalent of the Shattenkirk acquisition -- a misfit, almost subtraction by addition.  This almost seems like a desperation move, hoping maybe Kovalchuk goes on a hot streak and makes the Caps offense overpowering.  Or maybe it's a move to add another Russian teammate, to motivate Kuznetsov perhaps? 
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 10:04:36 PM Eastern
So another draft pick for a rental? I just don't see this group as contenders, regardless who they empty the wallet on.



You're looking at X.s and O's instead of heart and guts. If this is true.....Wiill he actually play for us or is he just another Shathispants......  ?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 10:08:38 PM Eastern
I absolutely ABHOR this move.


(1) Where is Kovalchuk going to play?  People seem to think on the 3rd line, but do you really want that?  Hagelin/Eller/Panik has far from set the world on fire offensively, but they have turned into a solid shutdown line that you can use in the playoffs against elite opposing lines, which helps with matchups, especially on the road.  Besides, Kovalchuk is listed as a LW and the player he'd seemingly be replacing, Panik, has been on the right side.  Does Kovalchuk play both wings?  Heck, maybe he'd be better replacing Leipsic on the 4th line.


(2)  I realize people don't make much of +/-, but I think it's a stat that stabilizes only over a very long period of time.  Kovalchuk has been a negative +/- player for 14 of his 15 years in the league, and is a career minus almost 150.  Some of that may be the teams he has played on, but he certainly doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me as a player who brings a high ratio of benefit to risk. 


(3) This has the feel of the offensive equivalent of the Shattenkirk acquisition -- a misfit, almost subtraction by addition.  This almost seems like a desperation move, hoping maybe Kovalchuk goes on a hot streak and makes the Caps offense overpowering.  Or maybe it's a move to add another Russian teammate, to motivate Kuznetsov perhaps?


Hah!  Kind of thinking in the same wya here.  Wsn't thining about the Kuzy angle though...
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Sunday February 23, 2020, 10:10:11 PM Eastern
Oh it's true.. But ya gotta look at X & O's. NHL goes on beyond this season and we're getting old and thin fast. I don't know much about him. Heard he's lazy?  :raised-eyebrow:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 10:20:42 PM Eastern
Oh it's true.. But ya gotta look at X & O's. NHL goes on beyond this season and we're getting old and thin fast. I don't know much about him. Heard he's lazy?  :raised-eyebrow:

he should fit n pretty well then.
Who's he replacing?  Do ou know?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 10:22:17 PM Eastern
Oh it's true.. But ya gotta look at X & O's. NHL goes on beyond this season and we're getting old and thin fast. I don't know much about him. Heard he's lazy?  :raised-eyebrow:

Oi!  Check out the "Coaching" thread.  I'd live to hear/ see your opinion..
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:15:44 PM Eastern
I absolutely ABHOR this move.


(1) Where is Kovalchuk going to play?  People seem to think on the 3rd line, but do you really want that?  Hagelin/Eller/Panik has far from set the world on fire offensively, but they have turned into a solid shutdown line that you can use in the playoffs against elite opposing lines, which helps with matchups, especially on the road.  Besides, Kovalchuk is listed as a LW and the player he'd seemingly be replacing, Panik, has been on the right side.  Does Kovalchuk play both wings?  Heck, maybe he'd be better replacing Leipsic on the 4th line.
If kuzy needs motiving more than being on a line wi /alexander ovechkkin.. I relly dont know what to sy...


(2)  I realize people don't make much of +/-, but I think it's a stat that stabilizes only over a very long period of time.  Kovalchuk has been a negative +/- player for 14 of his 15 years in the league, and is a career minus almost 150.  Some of that may be the teams he has played on, but he certainly doesn't instill a lot of confidence in me as a player who brings a high ratio of benefit to risk. 


(3) This has the feel of the offensive equivalent of the Shattenkirk acquisition -- a misfit, almost subtraction by addition.  This almost seems like a desperation move, hoping maybe Kovalchuk goes on a hot streak and makes the Caps offense overpowering.  Or maybe it's a move to add another Russian teammate, to motivate Kuznetsov perhaps?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:16:27 PM Eastern
Huh?   :raised-eyebrow: :huh:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:18:11 PM Eastern
I said, IKuzy needs motivaing more than being on a line With Alexander Ovechkiin........
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:31:12 PM Eastern
Kovalchuk isn't the same guy he was a few years ago. I don't like this move. I think a better deal would have been more work on D, even though that would've required something like trading Oriov and Jensen, or even (cough)Carlson(cough)




cheasus christ man, the guy is 36 already  :O=
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:42:27 PM Eastern
Who/what are we giving up for him?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:45:37 PM Eastern
And what are yourcoments and thoughts in the  Coaches" thread?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Sunday February 23, 2020, 11:47:59 PM Eastern
People kewnts to ep going on about the coaching, but noe there's a thread about iit, nobody wants to commment, huh?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 03:46:21 AM Eastern
Welcome Kovi to Caps! :uh-huh:


Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 04:34:38 AM Eastern
All i can say is that Kovalchuk is the second talented player in Russian hockey’s generation after Ovi!
Moreover, he is still in phenomenal  shape for his age and hungry for winning  a Stanley Cup, he could easily have right now 600 goals in NHL if he didn’t go to KHL..
Lastly, a friend of mine from Montreal was also skeptical about Kovi once they acquired him, but after a while he was absolutely love him!
Therefore, I think Kovi will  be great addition to our offensive line and will hugely  boost morale  to our  Russian team players ! ;)


Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 05:57:16 AM Eastern
Question to Kuzy: What do you think about Kovi in Caps?
“Kovi is a legend, he will bring a lot of success to our team!”
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: zerofox on Monday February 24, 2020, 07:49:21 AM Eastern
I'm happy about the Kovalchuk trade because it is very low risk but potentially good reward, even though I'm a bit skeptical that an aging "skill" guy makes us a better playoff team as opposed to someone who brings good two-way play, some size and physicality, etc.


However, this trade doesn't really solve our biggest deficiency, which is defense. I'm hoping we make another move to shore up our defense further. Dillon seems like he'll make a good impact but one guy isn't enough.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: zerofox on Monday February 24, 2020, 07:53:55 AM Eastern
All i can say is that Kovalchuk is the second talented player in Russian hockey’s generation after Ovi!
Moreover, he is still in phenomenal  shape for his age and hungry for winning  a Stanley Cup, he could easily have right now 600 goals in NHL if he didn’t go to KHL..
Lastly, a friend of mine from Montreal was also skeptical about Kovi once they acquired him, but after a while he was absolutely love him!
Therefore, I think Kovi will  be great addition to our offensive line and will hugely  boost morale  to our  Russian team players ! ;)


I hope Kovalchuk has the impact you say, but if playing with the best goal scorer in the history of the NHL as your Captain isn't motivation/morale boosting enough, I don't think adding Kovy will help lol.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday February 24, 2020, 09:25:38 AM Eastern
Wow, a bit surprised at this.  Bit of a risk, but could pay off.  Sucks to give up draft picks for a rental, but has to be done if you want to improve your team and you have no cap space.
Curious as to where he'll play.


I don't see him on the third line...WTF good would that do?  I mean Eller and Hags have both picked it up lately, but I see them more of a shut down type line than a scoring line and that AINT Kovi.
I think Eller is actually having a good year.  He does so much for this team and people on these boards mostly don't like him.  He handles pretty much the same load as Backy, just not as talented.  And, I'll admit he takes some dumb stick penalties on occasion.  I think he has more than outplayed his salary though.  He hustles, he forechecks, he mucks, and on occasion makes some decent O moves.
Hags I think is our best PK guy and we sorely needed that this year.  Panik has been the weak link on that line, but I am not as frustrating with that line as most, as I believe I have a realistic expectation about what that line is.


Maybe they put the Russian Trio together - Kuzy/Ovi/Kovi.  M-A-Y-B-E that line would actually score more goals than it allowed, but that would be pretty scary to watch (defensively speaking)
Move Willy to line 2 and put Vranna on the third line and Panik to the fourth and sit Leipsic?  Kind of a waste of race horse Vranna.
Pretty sure I'd rather keep Willy on Ovi's line - especially with Kuzy at C.  Someone has to be responsible on that line.




Or maybe move Backy up to 1c with Willy and Ovi and use Kuzy/Kovy/Oshie
Or Backy/Ovi/Oshie and Willy/Kuzy/Kovi


Curious to see how they manage it.  I know Kovi is older, but probably a waste of talent anywhere not on the top two lines.


Go Caps



Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 09:56:56 AM Eastern

I hope Kovalchuk has the impact you say, but if playing with the best goal scorer in the history of the NHL as your Captain isn't motivation/morale boosting enough, I don't think adding Kovy will help lol.


Exactly, thus we shall see all together what is Kovi capable for playing alongside with best goal scorer in league history!
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 09:59:14 AM Eastern
Wow, a bit surprised at this.  Bit of a risk, but could pay off.  Sucks to give up draft picks for a rental, but has to be done if you want to improve your team and you have no cap space.
Curious as to where he'll play.


I don't see him on the third line...WTF good would that do?  I mean Eller and Hags have both picked it up lately, but I see them more of a shut down type line than a scoring line and that AINT Kovi.
I think Eller is actually having a good year.  He does so much for this team and people on these boards mostly don't like him.  He handles pretty much the same load as Backy, just not as talented.  And, I'll admit he takes some dumb stick penalties on occasion.  I think he has more than outplayed his salary though.  He hustles, he forechecks, he mucks, and on occasion makes some decent O moves.
Hags I think is our best PK guy and we sorely needed that this year.  Panik has been the weak link on that line, but I am not as frustrating with that line as most, as I believe I have a realistic expectation about what that line is.


Maybe they put the Russian Trio together - Kuzy/Ovi/Kovi.  M-A-Y-B-E that line would actually score more goals than it allowed, but that would be pretty scary to watch (defensively speaking)
Move Willy to line 2 and put Vranna on the third line and Panik to the fourth and sit Leipsic?  Kind of a waste of race horse Vranna.
Pretty sure I'd rather keep Willy on Ovi's line - especially with Kuzy at C.  Someone has to be responsible on that line.




Or maybe move Backy up to 1c with Willy and Ovi and use Kuzy/Kovy/Oshie
Or Backy/Ovi/Oshie and Willy/Kuzy/Kovi


Curious to see how they manage it.  I know Kovi is older, but probably a waste of talent anywhere not on the top two lines.


Go Caps


I would say better to have a headache how  to put together all these folks in one line rather than nothing;)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday February 24, 2020, 10:01:33 AM Eastern

I would say better to have a headache how  to put together all these folks in one line rather than nothing;)


A real shocker coming from a guy named Pavel  :snicker:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 10:04:58 AM Eastern

A real shocker coming from a guy named Pavel  :snicker:


I have big hopes for him :snicker:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: apace41 on Monday February 24, 2020, 11:35:47 AM Eastern
I don't see him on the third line...WTF good would that do?  I mean Eller and Hags have both picked it up lately, but I see them more of a shut down type line than a scoring line and that AINT Kovi.
I think Eller is actually having a good year.  He does so much for this team and people on these boards mostly don't like him.  He handles pretty much the same load as Backy, just not as talented.  And, I'll admit he takes some dumb stick penalties on occasion.  I think he has more than outplayed his salary though.  He hustles, he forechecks, he mucks, and on occasion makes some decent O moves.
Hags I think is our best PK guy and we sorely needed that this year.  Panik has been the weak link on that line, but I am not as frustrating with that line as most, as I believe I have a realistic expectation about what that line is.


I can't see him anywhere BUT the third line.  Who in the top 6 is coming out?  Wilson with 20 goals and making sure Ovi doesn't have to do all the 1st line hitting?  Vrana?  He's not cut out for the third line so why move him?  This has to be with an eye to get some third line production because Panik has been a major disappointment.  Yes, he plays good defense and positional hockey, but 15 points at this point is not why he was acquired.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday February 24, 2020, 12:22:20 PM Eastern

ON the surface, I hate it.  Slow guy that I think the Habs signed for nothing, now they get a third round pick from us?  We looked at him before he signed with Montreal, so now we blow a third rounder when we could have had him for free?  Now, he works out and get's Ovie and Kuzy fired up again....


Also, Tampa outsmarted us on Bogosian.  He's a right hanged Dman we could have used and wouldn't have had to sacrifice a draft pick.


Finally, I hate using these draft picks.  We are an aging team that needs youth and speed and we are headed for some lousy years if we can't bring up prospects.  I know, I know, the window is closing, but I'm not willing to go through a 4 to 5 year rebuild.



Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: canadiancapman on Monday February 24, 2020, 12:44:22 PM Eastern
ON the surface, I hate it.  Slow guy that I think the Habs signed for nothing, now they get a third round pick from us?  We looked at him before he signed with Montreal, so now we blow a third rounder when we could have had him for free?  Now, he works out and get's Ovie and Kuzy fired up again....


Also, Tampa outsmarted us on Bogosian.  He's a right hanged Dman we could have used and wouldn't have had to sacrifice a draft pick.


Finally, I hate using these draft picks.  We are an aging team that needs youth and speed and we are headed for some lousy years if we can't bring up prospects.  I know, I know, the window is closing, but I'm not willing to go through a 4 to 5 year rebuild.


Montreal retained 50% of his salary, we saved there and probably couldn't have got Dillon paying the whole amount. He played well in montreal which is good to see.


Draft picks are the price you pay to get guys. We didn't give up a first. We've had a history of good drafting. Didn't give up a 1st round pick. I'd like to know any other team that's drafted as well as we have in the 1st round the past 10 years, usually a late pick and we still get a great player. Wilson 14th, Forsberg 11th, kuznetsov 25th, Carlson mid 20's, johannson mid 20's, samsonov mid 20's. Don't worry too much about us having limited picks. We've got McMicheal coming who will be good. I've seen him play in London 3 times this year.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: canadiancapman on Monday February 24, 2020, 12:48:13 PM Eastern
Vrana late 1st rd as well.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 12:58:22 PM Eastern
How about Marleau at the age of 40 to Shittsburg?!  :snicker:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: 4 Caps on Monday February 24, 2020, 01:02:04 PM Eastern
Vrana late 1st rd as well.


Actually mid 1st rd, 13th overall. 
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday February 24, 2020, 01:08:23 PM Eastern

I've changed my mind.  Look at the picture of Kovulchuk and his wife!    :clap:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 01:23:39 PM Eastern
I've changed my mind.  Look at the picture of Kovulchuk and his wife!    :clap:


Oh man, they are really beautiful couple! :uh-huh:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: KollieOlizig on Monday February 24, 2020, 01:41:37 PM Eastern
    All I'm going to say right now about this trade is that I don't like it.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: apace41 on Monday February 24, 2020, 02:41:12 PM Eastern
I've changed my mind.  Look at the picture of Kovulchuk and his wife!    :clap:


WOW!
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday February 24, 2020, 02:57:03 PM Eastern
I've changed my mind.  Look at the picture of Kovulchuk and his wife!    :clap:


Well if you gonna brag on it, you could at least post it.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday February 24, 2020, 03:04:22 PM Eastern
https://www.instagram.com/p/B31QAAinENi/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Monday February 24, 2020, 03:05:51 PM Eastern

Case closed. Best trade we ever made!
 :uh-huh: :uh-huh: :uh-huh: :uh-huh:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Monday February 24, 2020, 03:35:51 PM Eastern
Case closed. Best trade we ever made!
 :uh-huh: :uh-huh: :uh-huh: :uh-huh:


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: BlackIce on Monday February 24, 2020, 05:16:49 PM Eastern
Apparently the Caps moved Djoos to the Ducks.  Don't know for what -- probably some kind of mid - low draft pick.  I'd guess a 5th or 6th, if I were going to take a stab at it.




OOPS - not a draft pick.  RW Daniel Sprong.  Looks like a depth for depth trade.


FWIW, Sprong was a 2nd round draft pick of the Pens in 2015.  Hasn't panned out.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Monday February 24, 2020, 05:22:58 PM Eastern
Apparently the Caps moved Djoos to the Ducks.  Don't know for what -- probably some kind of mid - low draft pick.  I'd guess a 5th or 6th, if I were going to take a stab at it.




OOPS - not a draft pick.  RW Daniel Sprong.  Looks like a depth for depth trade.


FWIW, Sprong was a 2nd round draft pick of the Pens in 2015.  Hasn't panned out.


Knock Knock.


Who's there?


Djoos.


Djoos who?  :snicker:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Monday February 24, 2020, 07:00:28 PM Eastern
Uh, yea, the wife pic has curved my enthusiasm as well..  :uh-huh:  Wonder if she can score?  :wackysmile:  Or is "D" her game?  :huh: :snicker:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Monday February 24, 2020, 07:14:43 PM Eastern
Djoos appears to be an AHL move, at this point...


https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/02/24/caps-trade-christian-djoos-to-anaheim-ducks-san-diego-gulls/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/02/24/caps-trade-christian-djoos-to-anaheim-ducks-san-diego-gulls/)




I’m not sold on the Kovi move. The only thing I can see is depth for an injury.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: BlackIce on Monday February 24, 2020, 09:34:52 PM Eastern
Djoos appears to be an AHL move, at this point...


https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/02/24/caps-trade-christian-djoos-to-anaheim-ducks-san-diego-gulls/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/02/24/caps-trade-christian-djoos-to-anaheim-ducks-san-diego-gulls/)




I’m not sold on the Kovi move. The only thing I can see is depth for an injury.




In theory, I would agree with you Alta, but I think as a practical matter, that ain't gonna happen.  You don't get someone like him to sit on the bench, especially not with the Russian connection on this team.  Kovalchuk is going to be inserted somewhere on a consistent basis and someone is going to the bench.  But you and I and others as well struggle to envision where he might fit and what might happen to lines and their purpose once he is inserted (e.g., if he is on the 3rd line the shutdown nature of Hagelin/Eller/Panik is gone; if he is in the top 6, who moves down and where do they move to?)


What do you think of this move?  Insert Kovalchuk onto the #2 line with Backstrom and Vrana, and bump Oshie down to the #3 line, which may give it scoring punch, and Oshie is still defensibly responsible so maybe it can keep its shutdown nature.


The one argument I can see for the Kovalchuk acquisition is that the forwards haven't been playing all that well recently, either as lines or in tandem with the defense, so maybe Kovalchuk is an acquisition designed to relight the fire -- a motivational spark, even though we struggle to see how it plays out tactically.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: justwincaps on Monday February 24, 2020, 09:45:47 PM Eastern
Ya know, Oshie to the third line is something I hadn’t considered.  He has shown good chemistry with Eller and that may give you another potential scoring line without sacrificing any defense. 


You’d definitely lose some defense on the second line, but would hopeful Backstrom can keep that line stable. 
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: ArJunaZ on Monday February 24, 2020, 09:49:36 PM Eastern
I just heard about the Kovalchuk trade.  Not sure the old man is the right move, but probably a good replacement for Panik.
Plus we get to see this more often:
O-O

(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/71841572_464763924129708_7860043153916447703_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=100&_nc_ohc=-PWWwOiPpn8AX99sub3&oh=9ebbc8f697f2bf5889d5a6caba6c94f8&oe=5E886459)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: ArJunaZ on Monday February 24, 2020, 10:16:31 PM Eastern
Meet the latest member of our forum!

(https://galactichub.com/caps/kittycapsfan.gif)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Monday February 24, 2020, 11:26:11 PM Eastern

Montreal retained 50% of his salary, we saved there and probably couldn't have got Dillon paying the whole amount. He played well in montreal which is good to see.


Draft picks are the price you pay to get guys. We didn't give up a first. We've had a history of good drafting. Didn't give up a 1st round pick. I'd like to know any other team that's drafted as well as we have in the 1st round the past 10 years, usually a late pick and we still get a great player. Wilson 14th, Forsberg 11th, kuznetsov 25th, Carlson mid 20's, johannson mid 20's, samsonov mid 20's. Don't worry too much about us having limited picks. We've got McMicheal coming who will be good. I've seen him play in London 3 times this year.


I tend to agree with you Capman, about the deal for Kovi.


Mainly, as mentioned, a combo of reasons, including the lower risk vs. reward, and although not a big production guy, he’s not a gamble, either, to simply check as an insert for Panik.  I mean, why not?


The major portion of energy/chemistry, on that third line, is basically between Eller and Hagelin!  Their combined efforts, have been truly causing and creating A LOT of  both obvious, and not so obvious, POSITIVES, over ALL 200 feet of the ice, for our team!  Their duo is one of the few positive things to have been able to talk about since Christmas, actually!!


Panik, had a very small offensive flash at mid-season, but in my opinion, only APPEARS more defensively responsible, than he really is, as a result of playing alongside Eller and Hags!  Not that he’s a defensive slouch, as a forward either, just that he’s kind of been invisible/vanilla, and I don’t think you’re gonna upset much of anything between Eller and Hags, as they’re a very well oiled machine right now, in their own right!
So why not try Kovi on the third line, for a bit?  I don’t think you want to mess with the fourth line chemistry,  and I think Rierden is too chickenshit to move anybody on the first and second lines!


 Somebody mentioned Oshie on the third line, for Panik! I actually do like the idea of that, and wouldn’t see it at all as a demotion!  But it’s anybody’s guess there!


 And for what it’s worth, I don’t think this trade compares, in any way, to the Shattenkirk debacle.  One main difference is that we WERE NOT having the defensive issues, at the time, like we do now. Secondly I think that GMBM learned a hard lesson about simply signing a big name, just because it’s out there!
Additionally, what fantastic team chemistry, right now, would be at risk of being upset??  I would say, what freaking chemistry!!😂🤣


Rush


 

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Monday February 24, 2020, 11:33:08 PM Eastern
Ya know, Oshie to the third line is something I hadn’t considered.  He has shown good chemistry with Eller and that may give you another potential scoring line without sacrificing any defense. 


You’d definitely lose some defense on the second line, but would hopeful Backstrom can keep that line stable.


Agreed Justwin!
 It would be interesting to try, even if temporary!
 My gut says the second line may suffer, but that third line might just surprise us!


Rush
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: KollieOlizig on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 07:51:44 AM Eastern

I tend to agree with you Capman, about the deal for Kovi.


Mainly, as mentioned, a combo of reasons, including the lower risk vs. reward, and although not a big production guy, he’s not a gamble, either, to simply check as an insert for Panik.  I mean, why not?


The major portion of energy/chemistry, on that third line, is basically between Eller and Hagelin!  Their combined efforts, have been truly causing and creating A LOT of  both obvious, and not so obvious, POSITIVES, over ALL 200 feet of the ice, for our team!  Their duo is one of the few positive things to have been able to talk about since Christmas, actually!!


Panik, had a very small offensive flash at mid-season, but in my opinion, only APPEARS more defensively responsible, than he really is, as a result of playing alongside Eller and Hags!  Not that he’s a defensive slouch, as a forward either, just that he’s kind of been invisible/vanilla, and I don’t think you’re gonna upset much of anything between Eller and Hags, as they’re a very well oiled machine right now, in their own right!
So why not try Kovi on the third line, for a bit?  I don’t think you want to mess with the fourth line chemistry,  and I think Rierden is too chickenshit to move anybody on the first and second lines!


 Somebody mentioned Oshie on the third line, for Panik! I actually do like the idea of that, and wouldn’t see it at all as a demotion!  But it’s anybody’s guess there!


 And for what it’s worth, I don’t think this trade compares, in any way, to the Shattenkirk debacle.  One main difference is that we WERE NOT having the defensive issues, at the time, like we do now. Secondly I think that GMBM learned a hard lesson about simply signing a big name, just because it’s out there!
Additionally, what fantastic team chemistry, right now, would be at risk of being upset??  I would say, what freaking chemistry!!😂🤣


Rush


 
      I doubt Panik gets bumped from the lineup. My guess would be Leipsic gets bumped out.
And since Kovalchuk is naturally a lw I think he will play on the 3rd line with Eller and Panik and Hagelin gets bumped to the 4th line.
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 08:17:47 AM Eastern
      I doubt Panik gets bumped from the lineup. My guess would be Leipsic gets bumped out.
And since Kovalchuk is naturally a lw I think he will play on the 3rd line with Eller and Panik and Hagelin gets bumped to the 4th line.


Agree, I think you’re very close but we shall see!
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 10:46:30 AM Eastern



In theory, I would agree with you Alta, but I think as a practical matter, that ain't gonna happen.  You don't get someone like him to sit on the bench, especially not with the Russian connection on this team.  Kovalchuk is going to be inserted somewhere on a consistent basis and someone is going to the bench.  But you and I and others as well struggle to envision where he might fit and what might happen to lines and their purpose once he is inserted (e.g., if he is on the 3rd line the shutdown nature of Hagelin/Eller/Panik is gone; if he is in the top 6, who moves down and where do they move to?)


What do you think of this move?  Insert Kovalchuk onto the #2 line with Backstrom and Vrana, and bump Oshie down to the #3 line, which may give it scoring punch, and Oshie is still defensibly responsible so maybe it can keep its shutdown nature.


The one argument I can see for the Kovalchuk acquisition is that the forwards haven't been playing all that well recently, either as lines or in tandem with the defense, so maybe Kovalchuk is an acquisition designed to relight the fire -- a motivational spark, even though we struggle to see how it plays out tactically.


Oh, I have no doubt Kovi is not going to be a nightly scratch, if ever. I think the best place for him, without seeing him play with this squad, is on the 3rd line.


The Federov move made more sense than this one...
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 12:56:32 PM Eastern
The interesting fact is that Kovalchuk  played together for Atlanta with Todd Rierden, that’s maybe the answer why Caps acquired him :snicker:
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 01:06:28 PM Eastern
This is an interesting, albiet not unsurprising move.


Kovi, while historically an elite offense player, has rarely nor historically shown to be a blue-collar PK/Face Off winning expert.


While I’m sure Ovie, Varna, Orlov are psyched he’s here, what’s gonna be the payoff?   And, will it be worth the time and scrtaches of Dowd, Panik. Lispsch or Hathaway?


I’ll be honest, there’s plausibly that Kovi can put up 20 while with the Caps.  But there a bigger chance he wont, and our line up will suffer.


None the less, hope for the best.  Just know, as sure as Carbon is an organic molecule, Kovi never was or never bill close to Sir Sergei The Fedorv
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: 4 Caps on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 01:13:18 PM Eastern
It appears from the morning skate that Kolvachuk will be on the 3rd line with Eller and Hagelin.  However, what I am excited about is seeing him on the 2nd PP unit.  At the morning skate they had him playing the high slot and he has a wicked shot.  It should definitely give more room for Ovie in his office because the defense will have to be aware of where Kovy is.  I am definitely excited to see him play. 
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 02:12:17 PM Eastern
Im okay with Kovi  with Eller and Hags, but doubt that helps the shut down serviceability of that line.  I mean I don't really know Kovi, but appears to be offensive minded with his/team D not being a big concern for him (based on his career stats)


I'd even be okay trying Oshie with Hags and Eller, but would think that somewhat of a demotion for Oshie (not that he would complain)  Oshie would definitely make that a killer shutdown line and would help the scoring there too, however, Oshie is the only one currently really scoring goals on the 2nd line...okay Vranna got one SUnday...out of the last ....10-15 games?


I'd bet Panik moves to 4th line and Leipsic sits.  I like his tenacity, but Leipsic hasn't done much in the last 20 games and Panik is much bigger body


Go Caps

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Pavel095 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 02:21:42 PM Eastern
Good article:


https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-ilya-kovalchuk-fulfill-dream-together/c-315519818 (https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-ilya-kovalchuk-fulfill-dream-together/c-315519818)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 05:01:09 PM Eastern
was listening to Joe B on 106.7 this afternoon, he thinks Djoos asked to be moved because of how far down the depth chart he's fallen with the Caps, maybe looking for a better chance elsewhere
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 05:41:27 PM Eastern
was listening to Joe B on 106.7 this afternoon, he thinks Djoos asked to be moved because of how far down the depth chart he's fallen with the Caps, maybe looking for a better chance elsewhere


Knock knock.  ;D
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 05:45:15 PM Eastern

Knock knock.  ;D


Good for Djoos.  No animosity toward him, but I'd agree with the assessment that he is TOO FAR DOWN on the depth chart to play here.

Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 08:02:16 PM Eastern
Uh, yea, the wife pic has curved my enthusiasm as well..  :uh-huh:  Wonder if she can score?  :wackysmile:  Or is "D" her game?  :huh: :snicker:


I’d like to guard her CREASE!!😂🤣😂


Rush
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Tuesday February 25, 2020, 08:36:35 PM Eastern

I’d like to guard her CREASE!!😂🤣😂


Rush


Hah. Bunch of dirty old men on this site. No wonder it feels like home  ;D
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday February 27, 2020, 11:19:13 PM Eastern
. . . I did not know this . . .
https://youtu.be/gMv0KooFqMQ (https://youtu.be/gMv0KooFqMQ)
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Friday February 28, 2020, 10:24:11 AM Eastern
. . . I did not know this . . .
https://youtu.be/gMv0KooFqMQ (https://youtu.be/gMv0KooFqMQ)


yea, but like they said said, what player would agree to that? Then what if the team actually wins the Cup? Does that player get his name on it?
Title: Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday February 29, 2020, 08:49:41 PM Eastern

yea, but like they said said, what player would agree to that? Then what if the team actually wins the Cup? Does that player get his name on it?
The only way I could see that happening is if he’s UFA the next season, so he can hit the golf course early
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: alta on Friday May 08, 2020, 04:39:25 PM Eastern
Leipsic is gone....


https://novacapsfans.com/2020/05/08/report-capitals-to-terminate-brendan-leipsics-contract-today/ (https://novacapsfans.com/2020/05/08/report-capitals-to-terminate-brendan-leipsics-contract-today/)
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Friday May 08, 2020, 07:02:24 PM Eastern
I realize the comments are rude and insensitive, but..


"who are the chicks"


"what if they are just smokes"


"imagine having to deal with her sloppy drunk ass"


"imagine being at asu and dating this thing back home"


None of these comments seem like it should end a hockey career (or any career).  It's mean and rude and insensitive, but he's a fucking young male hockey player not a ACLU leftist LGBTYRQPON politician.


And it was a private conversation, no?


I'm not trying to put a positive spin on this but what man (especially in their younger days) has not talked some trash with his male peeps about women?


which one of these comments got his ass canned?  oh wait...I probably violated the PC rule by using the term ass.

Hell, by this standard half the members of this board should get canned  (ahem...Mix, DC, Rich...etc, etc.)  :raspberry:


Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Mickstix on Friday May 08, 2020, 07:21:51 PM Eastern
Hell, by this standard half the members of this board should get canned  (ahem...Mix, DC, Rich...etc, etc.)  :raspberry:
(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Burl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgifs.com%2Fgif%2FKjOYAZ%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fj.gifs.com%2FKjOYAZ.gif%5B%2Furl%5D&hash=5f2b227996477699e57ceaa38c04f540248e6c6f)(https://j.gifs.com/KjOYAZ.gif)
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: 4 Caps on Friday May 08, 2020, 08:48:50 PM Eastern
He also called his linemates, Dowd and Hathaway, “losers”.  The Caps did the right thing in getting rid of him.  It would have been a big distraction if he were still on the team when and if the season resumes.  Furthermore, it is no big loss as Kovalchuck basically replaced him in the lineup. 

Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Saturday May 09, 2020, 01:34:52 PM Eastern
He also called his linemates, Dowd and Hathaway, “losers”.  The Caps did the right thing in getting rid of him.  It would have been a big distraction if he were still on the team when and if the season resumes.  Furthermore, it is no big loss as Kovalchuck basically replaced him in the lineup.


Ahhh. I agree then. I heard there had comments about teammates but those were not shown in the post


Fuckin-A then can his ass. That’s the type of teammate you don’t need. Especially as you said who needs him
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 09, 2020, 02:50:00 PM Eastern

Ahhh. I agree then. I heard there had comments about teammates but those were not shown in the post


Fuckin-A then can his ass. That’s the type of teammate you don’t need. Especially as you said who needs him
I wonder if he’ll drop the gloves against Hathaway next year & see who the “loser” will be.


That bein said, while he shoulda known better to stay off a verified account in, as the kids/liberals like say, “Current Year”, a better player shouldn’t & wouldn’t of been cut
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday May 09, 2020, 02:51:57 PM Eastern
Hell, by this standard half the members of this board should get canned  (ahem...Mix, DC, Rich...etc, etc.)  :raspberry:
. . . Us???😇
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 08:33:12 PM Eastern
Ya know I'm still here, right? :-|
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 08:43:09 PM Eastern
Leipsic is gone....


https://novacapsfans.com/2020/05/08/report-capitals-to-terminate-brendan-leipsics-contract-today/ (https://novacapsfans.com/2020/05/08/report-capitals-to-terminate-brendan-leipsics-contract-today/)

What were the comments?
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 08:44:10 PM Eastern
. . . Us???😇

Ummmmm......
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:13:40 PM Eastern
What were the comments?


Yay!  You are still there  :hearts:


these were the comments I heard:"who are the chicks""what if they are just smokes""imagine having to deal with her sloppy drunk ass""imagine being at asu and dating this thing back home"


But then someone (Alta?) said Leipsic also called Hathaway and Dowd "Losers".


that aint so good for team unity.  Idiotic.

Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:19:41 PM Eastern
just to clarify...
I was brought up in the age of "Carry On" films, Benny Hill and Hammer House of Horror.   Lots of cleavage.....
I take no offense at that.   None.  It was a differen time.   Most of you here are of a similar age and we have a similar humour.  I love a bit of banter, as you know by now....... :uh-huh:
Please don't be delicate on my account.
If the "humour" went in a different direction.... I'm pretty sure most of you would be on top it before I even got a look in.
I kknow you're not all rapists and wife-beaters.  You're not all child molestors and don't all abuse your animals.  Or children.   You're not all pornographers, liars or cheats.
You're just blokes.   Blokes being blokes.   :)
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline- rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:27:07 PM Eastern

Yay!  You are still there  :hearts:


these were the comments I heard:"who are the chicks""what if they are just smokes""imagine having to deal with her sloppy drunk ass""imagine being at asu and dating this thing back home"God riddance, if you ask me.Which you wouldnt, #cos I'm just a girlie......   :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry:


For rhe record, I LIKE "Halfway"   He reminds me a bit of "Gramps".  He has that.. little Shetland pony that never got neutered thing about him.....  The stallion that doen't know he's small.  That little Jack Russell terruer thing about him.

Why is this riting so small???? :huh:


But then someone (Alta?) said Leipsic also called Hathaway and Dowd "Losers".


that aint so good for team unity.  Idiotic.


Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:31:01 PM Eastern
 :snicker: Somebody having some tech issues?
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:40:07 PM Eastern
What is the" just smokes" thing mean?  Not familiar with that term.
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:43:16 PM Eastern
:snicker: Soaitebody having some tech issues?

Oh, wait. that'll be me then............. :-|







Can't catch a break........
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: Surreylily on Wednesday May 13, 2020, 09:49:52 PM Eastern
Bugger!
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: richkrt99 on Thursday May 14, 2020, 12:36:52 AM Eastern
What is the" just smokes" thing mean?  Not familiar with that term.
I don’t know. I wondered too. I have never heard the term.
I’ll ask one of my teenagers tomorrow
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Monday July 27, 2020, 10:03:22 AM Eastern
I hope we don't lose Oshie to the Kraken.
Holby is one of my favorite players(my first jersey), but I don't think we will retain him.

Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: alta on Monday July 27, 2020, 01:48:08 PM Eastern
i see no reason to put Carlson on the protected list, I don't see anyone picking up that contract
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: canadiancapman on Monday July 27, 2020, 02:12:28 PM Eastern
How many players are protected? 10, 11? Dillon is a free agent, Gudos is a free agent. Both gone. They are going to protect Carlson, you're crazy if you think they won't. On D they'll protect Carlson, Orlov, siegenthaler and Alexeyev if they have to protect him (not sure on service time), if not they'll protect kempny or Lewington. I'd leave Oshie unprotected, he's got 1 maybe 2 good years left and is kinda injury prone, is signed long term and that contract will kill us in 2-3 years. They'll protect backstrom, ovie, vrana, Wilson, Kuzy and Eller up front.
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Monday July 27, 2020, 02:43:18 PM Eastern


The 6 Capitals players most likely to be selected by the Seattle Kraken in the expansion draft
1. T.J. Oshie
2. Michal Kempny
3. Dmitry Orlov
4. Braden Holtby
5. Nick Jensen
6. Jonas Siegenthaler






https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/capitals/6-capitals-players-most-likely-be-selected-seattle-kraken-expansion-draft (https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/capitals/6-capitals-players-most-likely-be-selected-seattle-kraken-expansion-draft)
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: alta on Tuesday July 28, 2020, 12:55:54 PM Eastern
How many players are protected? 10, 11? Dillon is a free agent, Gudos is a free agent. Both gone. They are going to protect Carlson, you're crazy if you think they won't. On D they'll protect Carlson, Orlov, siegenthaler and Alexeyev if they have to protect him (not sure on service time), if not they'll protect kempny or Lewington. I'd leave Oshie unprotected, he's got 1 maybe 2 good years left and is kinda injury prone, is signed long term and that contract will kill us in 2-3 years. They'll protect backstrom, ovie, vrana, Wilson, Kuzy and Eller up front.


the NHL said it's going to be exactly the same as the Vegas draft, I don't remember exactly but 10-11 players plus a goalie
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: BarfingMonkey on Tuesday July 28, 2020, 01:49:44 PM Eastern
I watch this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8kuFn00HFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8kuFn00HFo)
Title: Re: Transactions/Trade Deadline/Rumors
Post by: canadiancapman on Tuesday July 28, 2020, 09:15:53 PM Eastern
Hopefully they take Oshie off our hands. He'll be older and a good leader and they won't be that close to the cap so they can afford him. He may even be their Captain the inaugural season