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Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: Mickstix on Tuesday March 06, 2018, 11:28:56 AM Eastern
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https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/03/03/nick-kypreos-reports-gm-brian-maclellan-receives-multi-year-contract-extension-capitals/ (https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/03/03/nick-kypreos-reports-gm-brian-maclellan-receives-multi-year-contract-extension-capitals/)
I think he's more a professional/personal shopper than a GM, but good for him! Never change Washington!! :poop:
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I think it's time to start an email campaign to Ted. DC, when you send yours please use spellchecker ;D
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Well the good news is, it’s just rumors and speculation.
Everything else including the lack of “what the fucks”, is terrible and same old incompetence/apathy.
Here’s to hoping we miss the play offs
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If accurate, it'll take Ted 16 years of failure to fire him just like it did with McPhee.
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If accurate, it'll take Ted 16 years of failure to fire him just like it did with McPhee.
Yup. We like to joke about it and speculate, but Ted is more than pleased to be atop the division in the regular season and flop out early in the playoffs.. He's a business man 1st and foremost, so actually being Champions aren't really important as long as they make money. Kinda surprised there's even talk of Trotz being on a hot seat. He's a regular season super coach!
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Yup. We like to joke about it and speculate, but Ted is more than pleased to be atop the division in the regular season and flop out early in the playoffs.. He's a business man 1st and foremost, so actually being Champions aren't really important as long as they make money. Kinda surprised there's even talk of Trotz being on a hot seat. He's a regular season super coach!
Hopefully more of the fabase will start calling him out on this than just us.
At this point it would I almost wanna see him get booed at the Crap One center and laughed at every time he says “Cup” or “people who know hockey”
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Awesome news :thumbsup:
https://www.nhl.com/news/brian-maclellan-re-signs-to-stay-with-washington-as-gm/c-296782798 (https://www.nhl.com/news/brian-maclellan-re-signs-to-stay-with-washington-as-gm/c-296782798)
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This isn't awesome news at all. Too many on this board are all "Fire Trotz." It's hilarious to watch sheeple bounce from one coach to the next and never once question their own roster.
Anyway, this extension is awful. We needed a new GM, one who was willing to make hard decisions to take this team in a direction. Rebuild, or compete. Clearly they don't care about that, it's just about getting the sheeple to sell out tickets for our half ass efforts.
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oh yea, awsome news alright. It doesn't say how long the extension is.
Also from the article is this line about Trotz...
"He is 750-565-134 with 60 ties in 19 NHL seasons"
what the hell does that mean? His record is 750 wins-565 loses-134 ties, including 60 ties? Is that a reference to what he wears with his suit? Journalism in this country is dead and buried
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oh yea, awsome news alright. It doesn't say how long the extension is.
Also from the article is this line about Trotz...
"He is 750-565-134 with 60 ties in 19 NHL seasons"
what the hell does that mean? His record is 750 wins-565 loses-134 ties, including 60 ties? Is that a reference to what he wears with his suit? Journalism in this country is dead and buried
Alta I respect you, but your a bit wrong here. Trotz started in the NHL when there WERE ties. The shootout rule got changed to allot an extra point, so the 134 you see is his 134 OT or Shootout losses in the modern era. The 60 ties, are in fact ties, when the league used to not award extra points after OT and it just went to an actual tie.
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Alta I respect you, but your a bit wrong here. Trotz started in the NHL when there WERE ties. The shootout rule got changed to allot an extra point, so the 134 you see is his 134 OT or Shootout losses in the modern era. The 60 ties, are in fact ties, when the league used to not award extra points after OT and it just went to an actual tie.
It was more of a knock on who ever wrote the article, the information is presented very poorly
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It was more of a knock on who ever wrote the article, the information is presented very poorly
But it isn't. Like, go look at his Wiki page. It states the same thing.
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It was more of a knock on who ever wrote the article, the information is presented very poorly
It's not as you put it "what the hell does that mean? His record is 750 wins-565 loses-134 ties, including 60 ties?"
It reads like this. 750 wins, 565 losses, 134 OVERTIME LOSSES (the part where you get a point) and 60 ties. and OTL and a TIE are not the same thing. Your simply wrong.
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Well the good news is, they can still can him and Dickless regardless of their contracts.
Rather you’re for or against Trotz, any coach will be in the same place with this club.
If you’re not tough on the players, they don’t win. If you’re tough on the players, you piss the management off. . . If you don’t win you piss everyone off.
So sit back, do what ownership and players want, get into the playoffs, get done early and collect on a 7+ figure contact . . .
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It was more of a knock on who ever wrote the article, the information is presented very poorly
Lol OK Alta
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I'd love to know what GMBM did that Ted thinks was worthy of a contract extension? Any bozo could of gone after Shattenkirk and spent away all our cap, assets, lost Mojo for nothing, left Schmidt unprotected, etc.. Has the dude done ANYTHING remotely General Managerish, that would make other teams go "wow, he's good!"?? I just don't get it with these DC team owners.. All of em are scared to death of having to punt and regroup.. Just milk whatever inkling of success you have, as long as you can, sell as many tickets as possible and who cares if the fans never sniff a Championship.. :-(
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I really don't care anymore. It's just another typical move by a bafoon owner who's happy with mediocrity.
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Mickstix, with all due respect I think you are ignoring the fact that the season prior to GMBM taking over, the Caps missed the playoffs. Since he took over the Caps won the Presidents trophy twice and over that time has the best regular season record. Ya ya, the team didn’t win a Stanley Cup but I blame that more on Trotz and the players. I have followed the Caps from their inception and have been a season ticket holder for close to 30 years. IMO last season’s team was the best Caps team ever. The only General Manager who has arguably done a better job than BMac over this period of time is Rutherford. Extending BMac was a good move by Ted despte what DC thinks. McPhee had 16 years to win a Stanley Cup and failed to do it. I am willing to give BMac a few more years to see what he can do.
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Well since you've been a fan since the inception.. :wackysmile: lol
I mean he spent all the cap money and assets he had to build a team that failed in the 2nd round twice.. Then he lost Mojo and Schmidt for nothing, then he spent dumb amounts of money on Oshie, & Orlov.. Oh and they FAILED IN THE 2ND ROUND TWICE!!!! :angel:
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Hey Mickstick, Carolina is accepting resumes for their GM position, I think you and DC should apply since you know so much about what makes a good GM.
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Hey Mickstick, Carolina is accepting resumes for their GM position, I think you and DC should apply since you know so much about what makes a good GM.
You are the exact reason why the mediocrity continues. "Fans" like you. Your just happy to see a team, to see a generational player. At the end of the day if Ovie never gets a cup while you might be bummed, it wouldn't bother you. It should. The fact that we haven't been out of the 2nd round with these supposed "best rosters" ever, remember those are your words, is an utter embarrassment.
But instead of trying to analyze it, and see exactly what our issues are. Hint: We seem to fail the same way, every single playoffs, choke style. You just accept it. Don't worry, we get it you have posters of President Trophy wins on your wall and a tattoo of the mantra "We'll get em next time."
I also how how you default jump to the last Cup winners GM to say he's the best. Just because we have a nuanced conversation about GM moves does not mean we assume to do a better job. It just means we hold our franchise accountable. Mediocrity shouldn't be acceptable. The same result every season with Ovechkin with the odd time when we missed the playoffs should not be acceptable. Cup winning teams have canned their GM's two seasons later for that type of mediocrity. The reality is our owner doesn't care about winning a Stanley Cup. And when Ovechkin leaves and the money dry's up again because the casuals aren't coming in, this team will be exactly where it was without Ovechkin. Nowhere. It's a joke. And sorry that some of us are sick of it.
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Never wanted him to begin with. I wanted them to go outside the organization, but Ted never even considered that. It was all about continuing to retool around Ovechkin and Backstrom.
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I haven't seen any one compare the talent level of this squad to 97'-98' squad. By just about every measure cept goalie this core group has had more talent around it in all but one key area, pride. This organization hasn't been past the 2nd round since then either.
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You are the exact reason why the mediocrity continues. "Fans" like you. Your just happy to see a team, to see a generational player. At the end of the day if Ovie never gets a cup while you might be bummed, it wouldn't bother you. It should. The fact that we haven't been out of the 2nd round with these supposed "best rosters" ever, remember those are your words, is an utter embarrassment.
But instead of trying to analyze it, and see exactly what our issues are. Hint: We seem to fail the same way, every single playoffs, choke style. You just accept it. Don't worry, we get it you have posters of President Trophy wins on your wall and a tattoo of the mantra "We'll get em next time."
I also how how you default jump to the last Cup winners GM to say he's the best. Just because we have a nuanced conversation about GM moves does not mean we assume to do a better job. It just means we hold our franchise accountable. Mediocrity shouldn't be acceptable. The same result every season with Ovechkin with the odd time when we missed the playoffs should not be acceptable. Cup winning teams have canned their GM's two seasons later for that type of mediocrity. The reality is our owner doesn't care about winning a Stanley Cup. And when Ovechkin leaves and the money dry's up again because the casuals aren't coming in, this team will be exactly where it was without Ovechkin. Nowhere. It's a joke. And sorry that some of us are sick of it.
That is a pretty harsh statement towards 4caps. I think he is pointing out that we are all armchair GMs here. Most of us here are unhappy with the management, including myself. But at the end of the day we are fans. Do we know more about hockey than the coaches and GMs? We all like to think we do but if we did we would be working for an NHL team.
Since Carolins is looking, where do I send my resume?
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I haven't seen any one compare the talent level of this squad to 97'-98' squad. By just about every measure cept goalie this core group has had more talent around it in all but one key area, pride. This organization hasn't been past the 2nd round since then either.
You do know that the run in 97-98 was total luck. We were an average team that rode a hot goalie. We also had an easy run in the eastern conference. The Caps were the 4th seed so we faced Boston who was the 5th seed. The top 3 teams in the east lost in the first round so we became the top seed left in the 2nd round. We then faced the 8th seed Ottawa in the 2nd round and the 6th seed team Buffalo in the 3rd round. We finally faced a top team in the final and got swept. The series was closer than people think. 3 of the 4 games were by one goal. I think the turning point in that series was the OT loss in game 2. Im sure Juneau was rewarded a penalty shot in the OT but lost the puck in the snow that Osgood piled up in front of the net. That might have been the game that Tikanen missed the wide open net.
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Mickstix, with all due respect I think you are ignoring the fact that the season prior to GMBM taking over, the Caps missed the playoffs. Since he took over the Caps won the Presidents trophy twice and over that time has the best regular season record. Ya ya, the team didn’t win a Stanley Cup but I blame that more on Trotz and the players. I have followed the Caps from their inception and have been a season ticket holder for close to 30 years. IMO last season’s team was the best Caps team ever. The only General Manager who has arguably done a better job than BMac over this period of time is Rutherford. Extending BMac was a good move by Ted despte what DC thinks. McPhee had 16 years to win a Stanley Cup and failed to do it. I am willing to give BMac a few more years to see what he can do.
I for two season we had the roster which was capable to win the Cup. BMac did many good moves and some bad. Trotz was a save shot, he can bring almost any team to playoff zone, but never win anything. Did Caps really miss playoffs at Ovie's time?
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But it isn't. Like, go look at his Wiki page. It states the same thing.
That just proves my point, crappy journalism. Copy and paste is not journalism, nor is reposting a bunch of tweets. How many fans does this game have that have no idea there was a 4 column win lose sheet?
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You do know that the run in 97-98 was total luck. We were an average team that rode a hot goalie. We also had an easy run in the eastern conference. The Caps were the 4th seed so we faced Boston who was the 5th seed. The top 3 teams in the east lost in the first round so we became the top seed left in the 2nd round. We then faced the 8th seed Ottawa in the 2nd round and the 6th seed team Buffalo in the 3rd round. We finally faced a top team in the final and got swept. The series was closer than people think. 3 of the 4 games were by one goal. I think the turning point in that series was the OT loss in game 2. Im sure Juneau was rewarded a penalty shot in the OT but lost the puck in the snow that Osgood piled up in front of the net. That might have been the game that Tikanen missed the wide open net.
that run to the finals had as much luck in it as every time since that the Caps crapped out in the 2nd round, it was all luck ::)
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that run to the finals had as much luck in it as every time since that the Caps crapped out in the 2nd round, it was all luck ::)
My point is that we weren't as good as some other teams but got further. Showing that anything can happen in the playoffs. Like riding a hot goalie and getting favorable matchups. That team was built more like a playoff team than our teams of the past couple seasons. That team had some grit.
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My point is that we weren't as good as some other teams but got further. Showing that anything can happen in the playoffs. Like riding a hot goalie and getting favorable matchups. That team was built more like a playoff team than our teams of the past couple seasons. That team had some grit.
yea, because a point isn't made until you've added your 1/2 cent
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yea, because a point isn't made until you've added your 1/2 cent
And you know what? It a1/2 cent more than you have.
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And you know what? It a1/2 cent more than you have.
most likely, my assets are such that I don't count pennies