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Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => General Discusion Anything But Hockey => Topic started by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:39:06 PM Eastern
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We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation. This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.
I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.
You can change your vote if you like.
AJ
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My opinion, the like dislike doesn't get used like the old place because it doesn't appear you are "liking" a post, just the member in general. I think this has more to do with it than the explanation part.
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My opinion, the like dislike doesn't get used like the old place because it doesn't appear you are "liking" a post, just the member in general. I think this has more to do with it than the explanation part.
I just changed it so it is more clear. I liked the thumbs up/down with the mouseover text clearly saying you are rating the post, but the text version I just switched to might be better. What you think?
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it may help, I think location has to do with it too. The old place it was in the post so it was obvious, the "post was liked" text helped too. but it doesn't look like this board can be set up that way. This style board is set up for member karma, which isn't a bad thing, unless you've got no experience on those types of boards,
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I just like the thumbs up. Dont need an explanation for liking a post. I dont think the thumbs down is even necessary. It would have to be a pretty terrible post to earn a thumbs down. I'll never use it.
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it may help, I think location has to do with it too. The old place it was in the post so it was obvious, the "post was liked" text helped too. but it doesn't look like this board can be set up that way. This style board is set up for member karma, which isn't a bad thing, unless you've got no experience on those types of boards,
While I could reprogram the code to reposition it, it opens up a can of worms and more work for me later when updates to the core code comes out. I'd have to repeat my custom changes whenever an update comes out and it just becomes more work than I really want to put into it. I'm doing my best to stick to the core features as best I can while achieving the necessary functionality. If I was getting paid for the work it might be more palatable, but changing the core code right now is something I steer clear of with only a few minor exceptions.
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I just like the thumbs up. Dont need an explanation for liking a post. I dont think the thumbs down is even necessary. It would have to be a pretty terrible post to earn a thumbs down. I'll never use it.
I kind of agree with this. Anybody here who dislikes" a post, will counter it here anyway and give their explanation as to why they disagree. I don't see why somebody's 'karma' reputation should come in to it at all. Part of the fun of discussion boards is that everybody has their own take on things and I don't agree with losing karma points just because you disagree with, or don't like someone.
This board has been very positive so far and adding the "-" karma, I think is a negative that takes away from this site.
I don't mind giving a brief explanation of why I liked a post.
Maybe it could be simplified with poll type options, ie: "I agree wholeheartedly", and ,"Made me laugh", and "other" - where somebody would have to put in their own reasons, but I don't mind this at all.
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You do realise I've only just figured out the "quote" thingammy is at the top of the posts on here and not at the bottom like t'other site?
:D
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We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation. This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.
I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.
You can change your vote if you like.
AJ
Hey AJ
To be honest, I haven’t even used a like yet. And won’t, until the format changes! Don’t get me wrong, my friend, the board is awesome, and there are a ton of posts I like! But its[size=78%] different and I don’t like the loss of anonymity about it, at all![/size]
[size=78%]I feel I should have the right to like a post, and not have to take into consideration, someone else’s opinion of whether I liked a specific post OR NOT, on somebody else!!! It adds the potential for way too much DRAMA, and soap opera type atmosphere for my blood, and definitely, IMHO, would help in the formation of little cliques, both pro or con![/size]
[size=78%]We are all only human, and [/size][size=78%]To my mind, its a simple VOTING procedure, and should be anonymous! If a person wants to inform another that he or she “likes” a post, they can post that they gave them a “like”, which was done all the time on the old forum![/size]
[size=78%]I also agree with Maaco about Losing the thumbs down! People can post their disagreements, anytime, but again, it has a potential for “ganging up” on someone, especially since they are NOT anonymous!! A LIKE IS A LIKE....period![/size]
[size=78%]Also, we brought over the number of posts for each member, but didn’t transfer the number of “likes”! Why not! Myself and some others have enjoyed a decent number of likes, only to have ZERO here! It was encouraging at the least![/size]
Lastly, I’m only commenting because you asked! I LOVE THE NEW BOARD, and am amazed at its progress! You started a GREAT THING, buddy, with a little help from some folks,( we know who they are)! So please don’t take this negatively. Just shooting from the hip with you, but the subject matter of this, really isn’t all that important to me, in the big picture of the board!
[/size]Thanks AJ
[/size]Rush
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May I just ask/check that there is no limit on how many likes one can give in any given time?
For instance, in t'other site, we were limited to a certain amount of likes in a set period of time. Sometimes we used to get lively and funny GDT's, where we ran out of likes quite often.
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May I just ask/check that there is no limit on how many likes one can give in any given time?
For instance, in t'other site, we were limited to a certain amount of likes in a set period of time. Sometimes we used to get lively and funny GDT's, where we ran out of likes quite often.
Hey Lily!
Good to see you posting again! Saw your Bura post, and remembered that we were like minded about the guy on the old board, before! I don’t give him much time with. Trotz! Short of a miracle turn around!
Anyway, hope all is ok! Wife and I got a new German Shepherd puppy for Christmas. Man, it’s like having a newborn baby!! LOL
Rush
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We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation. This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.
I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.
You can change your vote if you like.
AJ
Nice to be able to read a post without (mostly), having to squint. I'm getting old. :(
Hey AJ
To be honest, I haven’t even used a like yet. And won’t, until the format changes! Don’t get me wrong, my friend, the board is awesome, and there are a ton of posts I like! But its[size=78%] different and I don’t like the loss of anonymity about it, at all![/size]
[size=78%]I feel I should have the right to like a post, and not have to take into consideration, someone else’s opinion of whether I liked a specific post OR NOT, on somebody else!!! It adds the potential for way too much DRAMA, and soap opera type atmosphere for my blood, and definitely, IMHO, would help in the formation of little cliques, both pro or con![/size]
[size=78%]We are all only human, and [/size][size=78%]To my mind, its a simple VOTING procedure, and should be anonymous! If a person wants to inform another that he or she “likes” a post, they can post that they gave them a “like”, which was done all the time on the old forum![/size]
[size=78%]I also agree with Maaco about Losing the thumbs down! People can post their disagreements, anytime, but again, it has a potential for “ganging up” on someone, especially since they are NOT anonymous!! A LIKE IS A LIKE....period![/size]
[size=78%]Also, we brought over the number of posts for each member, but didn’t transfer the number of “likes”! Why not! Myself and some others have enjoyed a decent number of likes, only to have ZERO here! It was encouraging at the least![/size]
Lastly, I’m only commenting because you asked! I LOVE THE NEW BOARD, and am amazed at its progress! You started a GREAT THING, buddy, with a little help from some folks,( we know who they are)! So please don’t take this negatively. Just shooting from the hip with you, but the subject matter of this, really isn’t all that important to me, in the big picture of the board!
Thanks AJ
Rush
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Bugger. Done it again. ::)
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May I just ask/check that there is no limit on how many likes one can give in any given time?
For instance, in t'other site, we were limited to a certain amount of likes in a set period of time. Sometimes we used to get lively and funny GDT's, where we ran out of likes quite often.
Hey Lily!
Good to see you posting again! Saw your Bura post, and remembered that we were like minded about the guy on the old board, before! I don’t give him much time with. Trotz! Short of a miracle turn around!
Anyway, hope all is ok! Wife and I got a new German Shepherd puppy for Christmas. Man, it’s like having a newborn baby!! LOL
Rush
Thanks luv'. I think I needed my own re-set, so I benched myself for a little while... :P
Your new addition sounds like a lot of fun. German Shepherd's are my favourite breed of dog and I always wanted one, but sadly I am severely allergic to live fur. :'( Hence Harley and Chalrley. (Probably a bit before your time... Corn snakes.)
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If it’s an easy change,. . .or just make it optional
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We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation. This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.
I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.
You can change your vote if you like.
AJ
Hey AJ
To be honest, I haven’t even used a like yet. And won’t, until the format changes! Don’t get me wrong, my friend, the board is awesome, and there are a ton of posts I like! But its different and I don’t like the loss of anonymity about it, at all!
I feel I should have the right to like a post, and not have to take into consideration, someone else’s opinion of whether I liked a specific post OR NOT, on somebody else!!! It adds the potential for way too much DRAMA, and soap opera type atmosphere for my blood, and definitely, IMHO, would help in the formation of little cliques, both pro or con!
We are all only human, and To my mind, its a simple VOTING procedure, and should be anonymous! If a person wants to inform another that he or she “likes” a post, they can post that they gave them a “like”, which was done all the time on the old forum!
I also agree with Maaco about Losing the thumbs down! People can post their disagreements, anytime, but again, it has a potential for “ganging up” on someone, especially since they are NOT anonymous!! A LIKE IS A LIKE....period!
Also, we brought over the number of posts for each member, but didn’t transfer the number of “likes”! Why not! Myself and some others have enjoyed a decent number of likes, only to have ZERO here! It was encouraging at the least!
Lastly, I’m only commenting because you asked! I LOVE THE NEW BOARD, and am amazed at its progress! You started a GREAT THING, buddy, with a little help from some folks,( we know who they are)! So please don’t take this negatively. Just shooting from the hip with you, but the subject matter of this, really isn’t all that important to me, in the big picture of the board!
Thanks AJ
Rush
Hi Rush,
The old Caps Forum until about a year or so ago used to always show who liked a post. When they changed it and made it anonymous the reaction was overwhelmingly negative. People generally like knowing who liked their posts. Another issue was that we were restricted to only about 10-12 likes per 24 hours. I've eliminated that limitation here.
It was requested by some (who now seem to go the other way) that we have the ability to dislike a post as well, hence I added it via the karma system.
I will try to change it so that only likes are possible. I don't know if I can make the "Reason" an option, but I'll try.
I will also work on bringing over and adding the likes from the old site for each user.
Thanks for the input.
AJ
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OK, I think it's a lot easier to use now.
- Dislike post is gone
- No more explanations
- I copied everyone's "Like" count from the old site and added them to any likes received here.
- You can like as many posts as you want, but there is a waiting period of just under 2 minutes before you can Like another post.
- Newbies (under 50 posts) still cannot Like a post. This is intentional.
More comments and suggestions are always welcome.
Unless related to this Karma/Like topic just be sure to post them in the Tech Issues/Suggestions (https://galactichub.com/CapsForum/index.php/topic,7.0.html) topic.
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I would've still used the dislike button, just haven't seen a place to yet, while trying to be nice at the same time ;)
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I think I'm at the point of using the dislike button on regular basis
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If it’s an easy change,. . .or just make it optional
That’s a cool idea, worth considering! Anonymous liking of a post can be an OPTION!
Truly, though guys, and especially you AJ. I really hope my last post on the matter didn’t come off to negative! It wasn’t meant that way if so. The “likes” stuff is a minuscule matter of importance to me, personally, so I would say my comments on it, should really be viewed with much less weight, than those who are more into that part of it.
Thanks guys, I’m good with whatever you decide
Rush
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If it’s an easy change,. . .or just make it optional
That’s a cool idea, worth considering! Anonymous liking of a post can be an OPTION!
Truly, though guys, and especially you AJ. I really hope my last post on the matter didn’t come off to negative! It wasn’t meant that way if so. The “likes” stuff is a minuscule matter of importance to me, personally, so I would say my comments on it, should really be viewed with much less weight, than those who are more into that part of it.
Thanks guys, I’m good with whatever you decide
Rush
No problem with your comments Rush. Input is a good thing.
Regarding making anonymous Likes an option. This is too much work. I also don't see that people will use the like system as much if there is any more than a single click required. Even the explanation requirement, where all you had to do was type something like "cool man", seemed to dramatically reduce the number of likes we used to see on the old site. I'm talking like a 99% drop. Now that it's a single click and done again it is already being used a lot more.
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If it’s an easy change,. . .or just make it optional
That’s a cool idea, worth considering! Anonymous liking of a post can be an OPTION!
Truly, though guys, and especially you AJ. I really hope my last post on the matter didn’t come off to negative! It wasn’t meant that way if so. The “likes” stuff is a minuscule matter of importance to me, personally, so I would say my comments on it, should really be viewed with much less weight, than those who are more into that part of it.
Thanks guys, I’m good with whatever you decide
Rush
No problem with your comments Rush. Input is a good thing.
Regarding making anonymous Likes an option. This is too much work. I also don't see that people will use the like system as much if there is any more than a single click required. Even the explanation requirement, where all you had to do was type something like "cool man", seemed to dramatically reduce the number of likes we used to see on the old site. I'm talking like a 99% drop. Now that it's a single click and done again it is already being used a lot more.
That’s cool AJ. Appreciate the hard work!👍
So are the likes now anonymous? If not, is it possible to keep the like anonymous, except to the person you gave the like too?
I agree that whoever receives a like would like to know who sent it, that’s reasonable, AND the fact that it would be anonymous to all others, I also would favor!
My position would be that, given the sometimes “heavier opposing opinions”, that occur from time to time, there have been instances, that I believe, ALL or MOST of us have experienced, where although we didn’t want to post our opinion, or we judged it not worth debating the subject, we can then CHOOSE NOT to enter into the discussion, but can “like” a post to throw a small amount of support to one of the other members! We then don’t have to defend something, that we thought not worthy enough to want to participate in, in the first place!!
If the like was non-anonymous, it would potentially open the door for any member on the opposite side of the matter, to post and question why someone liked a post that opposed THEIR view, obligating then, the member who simply wanted to like a post, to have to either ignore, justify, or comment, to a matter, that he/she didn’t want to talk about in the first place! Way too much potential drama, for one simple like of a post!
A member who gives a “like”, to a like minded member, should not have to concern themselves with another member who has an opposing view, IF, he/she wants to reserve the right to not want to “enter the fricasse”, of a subject!
Again AJ, I have no clue if this is possible, or if it’s too much work! Just my opinion!
Rush
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Hey Rush,
As I said in a post above, the reaction when the Likes became anonymous on the old site was overwhelmingly negative. Since I removed the dislike post option I don't see anyone getting dissed by the system as it is now. Likes just add additional means of communication by saying "Hey, I liked or agree with that post."
I ask that others who used the old system to chime in here and give their views. I personally found it annoying that we lost that added communication of knowing who liked your post.
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Hey Rush,
As I said in a post above, the reaction when the Likes became anonymous on the old site was overwhelmingly negative. Since I removed the dislike post option I don't see anyone getting dissed by the system as it is now. Likes just add additional means of communication by saying "Hey, I liked or agree with that post."
I ask that others who used the old system to chime in here and give their views. I personally found it annoying that we lost that added communication of knowing who liked your post.
Thanks for clearing that up, AJ.
When, at anytime, someone chooses to post, it’s understood that they accept the fact that they are opening their opinion to all on the board, and thusly any comments that follow! Fair enough!
I don’t feel that simply wanting to send a “like” to a post, should have to bear the same potential open exposure for comments from others, that have had NOTHING to do with whether or not you liked a post!
Members here already open themselves up by posting, and I tend to believe, that for myself and some others, who may be reluctantly uncomfortable with social media, generally, would appreciate not having to expose themselves for a simple “like”!
I’m not a newbie anymore, but most certainly not a veteran poster either, however, when I became a member last year, likes WERE anonymous, and having been quite active on the old board, the anonymity didn’t seem to stop people from liking posts at all!
I both gave and received a high number of likes, to and from many different posters! It was fun, comfortable, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SIMPLE and EASY! I hit the like button, and could forget about it!! I didn’t have to be concerned over how a completly UNINVOLVED party may want to react!!
I’m glad you’ve asked the members, AJ, very fair of you!! I’ll gladly accept whatever happens! But I will miss throwing out likes, if they remain public, as that goes past my comfort level for privacy. It’s probably my old school cynical side coming out! LOL
Rush
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Hey Rush,
As I said in a post above, the reaction when the Likes became anonymous on the old site was overwhelmingly negative. Since I removed the dislike post option I don't see anyone getting dissed by the system as it is now. Likes just add additional means of communication by saying "Hey, I liked or agree with that post."
I ask that others who used the old system to chime in here and give their views. I personally found it annoying that we lost that added communication of knowing who liked your post.
Hey AJ
I’ve had another 24 hrs to think about my position on the “anonymous like” issue!
To be honest, after reading a few more posts, and seeing how the likes are handled by many other members, whom I’ve come to respect, yourself included, I’m realizing that I simply haven’t kept up with the norms of social media, to this point!
Sometimes we older-school folks, have to “peep out of the rabbit hole”, of cynicism, that we’ve dug for ourselves, as the world takes greater leaps and bounds, than we can keep up with.
Humbly, I say, this is one of those times! But I’ll also say that I always feel better afterward, when I’ve learned something, or gained some knowledge that I didn’t have before.
This like stuff, means more to folks than I’ve realized. It’s got a unique breath of life in it, for many here, especially those with more history with each other. This can only be a positive, that I didn’t really take notice of, until the last few days!
Therefore I’m just stating in this PM to you, that I’m not against the public display of who likes who’s post, anymore. (To be honest, AJ, my other opinion may have been a little selfish)! Thanks for the patience on this matter! Im all good!
Rush
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Hey AJ
I’ve had another 24 hrs to think about my position on the “anonymous like” issue!
To be honest, after reading a few more posts, and seeing how the likes are handled by many other members, whom I’ve come to respect, yourself included, I’m realizing that I simply haven’t kept up with the norms of social media, to this point!
Sometimes we older-school folks, have to “peep out of the rabbit hole”, of cynicism, that we’ve dug for ourselves, as the world takes greater leaps and bounds, than we can keep up with.
Humbly, I say, this is one of those times! But I’ll also say that I always feel better afterward, when I’ve learned something, or gained some knowledge that I didn’t have before.
This like stuff, means more to folks than I’ve realized. It’s got a unique breath of life in it, for many here, especially those with more history with each other. This can only be a positive, that I didn’t really take notice of, until the last few days!
Therefore I’m just stating in this PM to you, that I’m not against the public display of who likes who’s post, anymore. (To be honest, AJ, my other opinion may have been a little selfish)! Thanks for the patience on this matter! Im all good!
Rush
Hi Rush,
I was expecting you would come to see it that way. I did not expect you to do so as quickly as you have. For sure most people like the way we have it setup now. It is now pretty much how it worked a couple years ago on the old site. At some point I'd like to maybe fuss with the code so it displays who liked your post right in the post that was liked. Not happening anytime soon though.
Cheers,
AJ
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Hey AJ
I’ve had another 24 hrs to think about my position on the “anonymous like” issue!
To be honest, after reading a few more posts, and seeing how the likes are handled by many other members, whom I’ve come to respect, yourself included, I’m realizing that I simply haven’t kept up with the norms of social media, to this point!
Sometimes we older-school folks, have to “peep out of the rabbit hole”, of cynicism, that we’ve dug for ourselves, as the world takes greater leaps and bounds, than we can keep up with.
Humbly, I say, this is one of those times! But I’ll also say that I always feel better afterward, when I’ve learned something, or gained some knowledge that I didn’t have before.
This like stuff, means more to folks than I’ve realized. It’s got a unique breath of life in it, for many here, especially those with more history with each other. This can only be a positive, that I didn’t really take notice of, until the last few days!
Therefore I’m just stating in this PM to you, that I’m not against the public display of who likes who’s post, anymore. (To be honest, AJ, my other opinion may have been a little selfish)! Thanks for the patience on this matter! Im all good!
Rush
Hey Rush.
Nobody is going to "diss you" for posting a "like" on here.
You know I've had issues with Maaco before, but I gave him a "like" just recently, because I totally agreed with a post he made. No more, no less. I absolutely don't have a problem with him knowing about it. Why should I? I liked that post. No more, no less.
Nobody is here to hurt you, or anyone else. We're all Caps fans, from all over the world. We're all individual people with individual opinions and thoughts and that's the whole point of discussion boards like this.
There will be altercations and disagreements, even verbal fisticuffs and downright slander, but we are a Caps family and as disfunctional as we are - much like our team - we will persevere. Even the best of friends have the odd spat.
There really is no conspiracy. We really are just a bunch of Caps fans. :angel:
You know you didn't send that as a PM, right? :P
For the record - there are people here who will solemnly state that you are not as technologically disadvantaged - or in my case retarded, as me.
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For the record - there are people here who will solemnly state that you are not as technologically disadvantaged - or in my case retarded, as me.
:lol: LOL, I'll second that ::) :P :hearts:
Believe me, I know a lot of people like that, including my wife, and she has two masters degrees from Harvard. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
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Hey Rush.
Nobody is going to "diss you" for posting a "like" on here.
You know I've had issues with Maaco before, but I gave him a "like" just recently, because I totally agreed with a post he made. No more, no less. I absolutely don't have a problem with him knowing about it. Why should I? I liked that post. No more, no less.
Nobody is here to hurt you, or anyone else. We're all Caps fans, from all over the world. We're all individual people with individual opinions and thoughts and that's the whole point of discussion boards like this.
There will be altercations and disagreements, even verbal fisticuffs and downright slander, but we are a Caps family and as disfunctional as we are - much like our team - we will persevere. Even the best of friends have the odd spat.
There really is no conspiracy. We really are just a bunch of Caps fans. :angel:
You know you didn't send that as a PM, right? :P
For the record - there are people here who will solemnly state that you are not as technologically disadvantaged - or in my case retarded, as me.
Excellent post. I couldn't agree more. We aren't here to diss anyone. The creation of this site may have been a blessing in disguise. Its like a brand new start. You guys are doing ba great job with the site.
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Hey guys!
Hey Lily!
Lily, I appreciate the warm and comforting tone of your response to my post. I want you to know that I realize it’s with kind intent, and coming from a good place, and DO APPRECIATE IT!
But my position on wanting the “likes” anonymous, is not because I think I’ll be “dissed”, or that someone is going to hurt my feelings. I’m a big boy, and can guarantee that anytime, when I elect to speak, share, or otherwise converse with others, either on this board, or for that matter, in all areas of life, I speak with confidence, but also with a regard for openness, to others! Those of us who have crossed the 50 year plateau, in age, the majority of us are fairly solid in our opinions, have had years of observation and experience in the social realm. I’m sure you already know what I mean.
So, let me help clarify what I meant, FWIW, and then we’ll flip the page and move on.
I absolutely believe in my position for anonymous likes, the only difference is that I’ve realized that within the atmosphere of a modern social forum/board, my position is old, antiquated, AND more importantly, in the MINORITY. So I’m the one who must yield, as these boards were here, way before I ever came along, and the “public likes” are popular for the MAJORITY! I simply “saw the light”, by saying to myself, “who am I, to come and continue to try and debate a change to this already accepted practice, by those who are way more experienced in the social media realm”!!
There is way too much positive that I get out of this hockey forum, on balance, than the negative tic I get over the “likes” issue. I’ve simply made a conscious decision about it, to let the issue go, (and no, I’m not that happy about it, but no biggie), as I’ve learned that in THIS forum arena, it’s what most want, which makes it a BETTER PLACE for ALL!
Additionally, Both you and Maaco, have agreed and recognized the better atmosphere on the forum! I applaud you both, and the originators of this new board, for its much-improved overall tone!! You, Lily, and Maaco, agreeing on this point, is all the PROOF this board should need!!!LMFAO😂😂
Again, I’m all good, and happy as a clam to be here! We should all have full confidence in the dedication, our mods have, to making, and keeping this site a GREAT PLACE!!!
Rush