Washington Capitals Fan Forum

Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 01:00:18 PM Eastern

Title: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 01:00:18 PM Eastern
               (https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2FPenguins+%40+Capitals.gif&hash=5eebe12850396458f4d59f5552f4aa9a)   

                 Round 2 - Game 1
                 Series Start
                 Mon. April 26   Washington Capitals @ Pittsburgh Penguins
                 Place:  Capital One Arena
                 Time: 7:00 p.m.
                 TV: NBCSN, CBC, SN, TVAS
                 Radio: 106.7 The Fan, Capitals Radio 24/7
                 NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2017030221) for Live Box Score
                 Pittsburgh Penguins       100-47-29-6    Last Game: Apr 22  Won 8-5 Against Flyers - Won Series 4-2
                 Washington Capitals      105-49-26-7    Last Game: Apr 23  Won 6-3 Against Blue Jackets - Won Series 4-2

                                                                                     
                       8-Ovechkin          92-Kuznetsov           43-Wilson
                     18-Stephenson      19-Bäckström          77-Oshie
                     10-Connolly           20-Eller                    25-Smith-Pelly
                     13-Vrana                83-Beagle                39-Chiasson
 
                                  9-Orlov                         2-Niskanen
                                  6-Kempny                   74-Carlson
                                  44-Orpik                      29-Djoos

                                               70-Holtby  (starter)
                                               31-Grubauer


                                           -- SCRATCH --
                                               65-Burakovsky ("upper-body" injury, out for rest of series, needs surgery)
                                               63-Gersich
                                               72-Boyd
                                               64-Pinho
                                               28-Jerabek
                                               22-Bowey
                                                 1-Copley
                                               
                                               

                                    -- INJURED RESERVE --
                                           

                                    -- 1st Powerplay Unit --
                   20-Eller             19-Bäckström        92-Kuznetsov
                                 8-Ovechkin            74-Carlson
                               
                                    -- 2nd Powerplay Unit --
                  13-Vrana           18-Stephenson      10-Connolly
                                  2-Niskanen              9-Orlov
       

               Referees:   Dan O’Halloran (#13),    Brad Meier (#34)
               Linesmen:  Brian Murphy (#93),    Michel Cormier (#76)





               Pittsburgh’s expected lineup
     
                            Forwards
             Jake Guentzel - Sidney Crosby - Patric Hornqvist
             Dominik Simon - Riley Sheahan - Phil Kessel     
             Connor Sheary - Derick Brassard - Bryan Rust   
           Zach Aston-Reese - Carter Rowney - Tom Kuhnhackl
 
                         Defensemen
                   Brian Dumoulin - Kris Letang
                   Olli Maatta - Justin Schultz
                  Jamie Oleksiak - Chad Ruhwedel
 
                        Goaltenders
                            Murray
                            Casey DeSmith
 
                       Scratches:
                   Evgeny Malkin (lower body)
                   Carl Hagelin (upper-body)
                   Matt Hunwick

                   



(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fscoring_summary.gif&hash=e4c44b0c35837704bf29d0ee1ad212f9)

1st Period
00:17  GOAL 92-Kuznetsov, assists 8-Ovechkin & 43-Wilson   1-0 WSH

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
00:28  GOAL -Ovechkin, assists 43-Wilson & 9-Orlov   2-0 WSH
02:59  Hens GOAL Hornqvist, assists Schultz & Guentzel   2-1 WSH
05:20  Hens GOAL Crosby, assists Guentzel & Hornqvist   2-2 TIE
07:48  Hens GOAL Guentzel, assist Crosby  3-2 PIT

FINAL:    3-2 PIT







(https://galactichub.com/CapsForum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2FThe+Washington+Post.gif&hash=06cb5ba9d3b6266e36870883e22eafbb)
by Isabelle Khurshudyan, Roman Stubbs, Scott Allen and Neil Greenberg April 26 at 12:27 PM

2018 NHL playoffs: Pittsburgh Penguins-Washington Capitals Game 1 updates, analysis

(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/DTXocznGPWY7Joak5_kRPelxRno=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/YWCKU7LEFA4SNHVKU2Q5AXQH3M.jpg)
Rivals Alex Ovechkin and Sidney Crosby meet in the playoffs once more. (Associated Press)


Game 1


Pittsburgh Penguins vs. Washington Capitals
Series: Start
Thursday, 7:00 p.m. ET, Capital One Arena
TV: NBCSN, CBC, SN, TVAS

Full series schedule
Game 2: at Washington, 3 p.m. Sunday
Game 3: at Pittsburgh 7:30 p.m. Tuesday
Game 4: at Pittsburgh, 7 p.m. Thursday
Game 5 (if necessary): at Washington, TBD
Game 6 (if necessary): at Pittsburgh, TBD
Game 7 (if necessary): at Washington, TBD




Pregame story lines

Pittsburgh injuries: Penguins center Evgeni Malkin and speedy winger Carl Hagelin will both miss Thursday’s game with injuries, creating a huge opportunity for the Capitals. With 42 goals and 56 assists this season, Malkin was arguably Pittsburgh’s best player, and his absence will give Washington the advantage in center depth. But the Capitals have had opportunities like this against the Penguins before, and they haven’t capitalized. A year ago, captain Sidney Crosby missed one game because of a concussion, and the Capitals still lost. In the 2016 second-round meeting between the teams, top defenseman Kris Letang was suspended for a game, and Washington didn’t win that game, either. The Capitals can’t afford a 2-0 series hole like they had against Columbus, and that starts with taking advantage of a depleted Penguins team on Thursday night.

Power play: Penalties in this series could be costly for both teams. Though Washington’s shorthanded unit killed 17 straight penalties over the final four games against the Columbus Blue Jackets in the first round, Pittsburgh’s power play is more dangerous. The Penguins had five power-play goals in 25 opportunities in their first-round series, and the unit was the league’s best during the regular season with a 26.2 percentage. The Capitals’ man-advantage is arguably even hotter at the moment; Washington scored a whopping nine power-play goals in six first-round games against Columbus.

Goaltending: After Braden Holtby started the postseason on the bench, beat out for the starting job by Philipp Grubauer, he’s earned his place back in net and rebounded from a tough second half of the season with a strong showing in the playoffs, a .932 save percentage and 1.92 goals against average, winning all four of his starts against the Blue Jackets in the first round. But Holtby struggled against Pittsburgh in the postseason a year ago with an .887 save percentage and a 2.57 goals against average. Pittsburgh’s Matt Murray looked shaky at times against the Flyers in the Penguins’ first-round series, and though he was injured during the teams’ meeting a year ago, his postseason résumé is impressive, including two championships already. He has a .926 save percentage and a 1.99 goals against average over his career in the playoffs.

“They kind of sat back in the [defensive] zone and kind of drown you out and then wait for you to kind of make a mistake and then it’d be boom, two-on-one, breakaway or something like that,” Holtby said of the Penguins. “They wait for the grade-A chances instead of just ‘hope’ chances, and I think we’ve learned a lot from that.”

Players to watch

Alex Ovechkin: The Capitals’ captain said he “can’t wait” to play the Penguins, and after he had a monster season with a league-leading 49 goals, his postseason is off to an impressive start: five goals and eight points through Washington’s first six games. That’s already matched his point total from his 13-game playoff run a year ago, when he was playing through knee and hamstring injuries. Over his career, Ovechkin has averaged nearly a point per game in the postseason.

Sidney Crosby: As the Penguins scored 4.67 goals per game in their first-round series against the Philadelphia Flyers, Crosby lead the way with six goals and seven assists for 13 points through six games. He’s won the Conn Smythe trophy in back-to-back seasons as the most valuable player over consecutive Stanley Cup championship runs, and Washington will devote its top defensive pairing of Dmitry Orlov and Matt Niskanen to stopping Crosby and his top line, also featuring Jake Guentzel and Patric Hornqvist.

Pregame reading

Immerse yourself in the Capitals’ postseason with The Post’s coverage of the Stanley Cup playoffs:


So they meet again: Five top moments in the Alex Ovechkin-Sidney Crosby rivalry (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/26/so-they-meet-again-five-top-moments-in-the-alex-ovechkin-sidney-crosby-rivalry/?utm_term=.c85d0a558025)

Capitals and Penguins: A landscape of pain and agony (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/04/26/capitals-and-penguins-a-landscape-of-pain-and-agony/?utm_term=.d20d49f0f1f4)

For the Capitals to make a leap, Braden Holtby must provide safety in net (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/for-the-capitals-to-make-a-leap-braden-holtby-must-provide-safety-in-net/2018/04/25/2313ccd4-48be-11e8-827e-190efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.8052014bc7dc)

‘We’re actually quite excited about it’: Caps want their Cup quest to go through Pens (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/25/capitals-excited-to-write-new-ending-for-familiar-playoff-story-against-penguins/?utm_term=.7ff4cffa9a95)

Penguins’ Evgeni Malkin will miss Game 1 against Capitals (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/25/penguins-evgeni-malkin-will-miss-game-1-against-capitals/?utm_term=.60f7ae88f4de)

No doubt: Capitals’ Braden Holtby kept his confidence amid a season of struggles (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/24/no-doubt-capitals-braden-holtby-kept-his-confidence-amid-a-season-of-struggles/?utm_term=.0a8e0f51fe03)

Fancy Stats: Three reasons this Capitals-Penguins series will be different (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2018/04/24/three-reasons-this-capitals-penguins-series-will-be-different/?utm_term=.1db016a95905)

An early look at the Penguins-Capitals Stanley Cup playoff clash, part 11 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/24/an-early-look-at-the-penguins-capitals-stanley-cup-playoff-clash-part-11/?utm_term=.d76523c01ea5)

Alex Ovechkin delivers in the clutch, and ‘a huge opportunity’ awaits (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/alex-ovechkin-delivers-in-the-clutch-and-a-huge-opportunity-awaits/2018/04/24/069457c0-470d-11e8-827e-190efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.078cc188b7c0)

Capitals-Blue Jackets Game 6: Washington wins series; Pittsburgh, Sidney Crosby next (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/23/capitals-blue-jackets-game-6-live-updates/?utm_term=.9cb002bb96e7)

Chandler Stephenson’s breakout moment comes at the perfect time for the Capitals (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/chandler-stephensons-breakout-moment-comes-at-the-perfect-time-for-the-capitals/2018/04/24/745ab28e-4737-11e8-827e-190efaf1f1ee_story.html?utm_term=.ec1daf9ea8d3)

It’s not just you: The Caps really do play an absurd number of overtime playoff games (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/04/23/its-not-just-you-the-caps-really-do-play-an-absurd-number-of-overtime-playoff-games/?utm_term=.6161f8a1b33a)

Nicklas Backstrom, the picture of the Capitals’ playoff pain, is now the image of their joy (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/22/nicklas-backstrom-the-picture-of-the-capitals-playoff-pain-is-now-the-image-of-their-joy/?utm_term=.2b467e363b78)

John Carlson continues to build on stellar postseason reputation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/04/20/john-carlson-continues-to-build-on-a-stellar-postseason-reputation/?utm_term=.2ef1e9cead67)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: 4 Caps on Thursday April 26, 2018, 01:54:36 PM Eastern
If the Caps are going to win this series they need to win their home games.  Can’t keep losing the first two home games like we did last year to the Penguins and this year to the BlueJackets. 
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 02:33:13 PM Eastern
as FP says...


SAME SEATS EVERYONE


which means...






meh
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpgnYhzdkI



Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Thursday April 26, 2018, 03:25:23 PM Eastern
Caps need the first two to even get in the conversation.  After reading the Post article about our 9 series losses with Pittsburgh, it's difficult to believe that history doesn't filter into the minds of these guys, no matter what they say.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 04:39:41 PM Eastern
Caps need the first two to even get in the conversation.  After reading the Post article about our 9 series losses with Pittsburgh, it's difficult to believe that history doesn't filter into the minds of these guys, no matter what they say.
You’d think that would be the case, and I’d like to think so,. . .


But for much of this team, history hasn’t shown more than them wanting to get to IFFC or whatever the hell that Euro tournament is called.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 05:15:52 PM Eastern
Meh, we know what to expect. Caps vs Pens/refs.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 05:20:48 PM Eastern
Over/under for the Pens first PP.........3 min in. I say under.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 05:21:05 PM Eastern
another important note, the Hens have shown they are capable of quick consecutive goals late in the game, while the Caps have consistently shown they tend to let up with a 2 goal lead


aaaaaannndd.... the Nats are off today so I will be able to listen live to Walton call it instead of watching Penishead and Dingleburry sport tents because their favorite team is playing
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 06:40:53 PM Eastern
:headbang:
(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2FGo_Capsz.gif&hash=a12cbc30e61d8e38ba31c50a1976ed02aab46042)
(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2FWe-Got-This.gif&hash=1485e4521999eb76cf02bdf4be56671a4913de45)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:05:34 PM Eastern
another important note, the Hens have shown they are capable of quick consecutive goals late in the game, while the Caps have consistently shown they tend to let up with a 2 goal lead


aaaaaannndd.... the Nats are off today so I will be able to listen live to Walton call it instead of watching Penishead and Dingleburry sport tents because their favorite team is playing
One of the major keys:


HOLD A FUCKIN LEAD FOR FUCKS SAKE!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:12:51 PM Eastern
Win lose or draw, FUCK PITTSBURGH!!!  (Ō_ƆŎ)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:13:05 PM Eastern
Welp...here goes nothing!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:15:03 PM Eastern
Dear god get rid of the pom-poms and the “Rockers” and get hit ice girls like a real team
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:16:32 PM Eastern
:92z:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:18:02 PM Eastern
HOLY FLIRKING SCHNIT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:18:35 PM Eastern
it was fast!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:19:21 PM Eastern
Hell yea!!! Now don’t let up!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:24:23 PM Eastern
Ovie  missed a wide open net.   (Ō_ƆŎ)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:24:34 PM Eastern
Gotta hit that open net!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:25:02 PM Eastern
Ovi missed a wide open net
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: HoustonCapsFan on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:26:29 PM Eastern
Dammit dammit dammit. I’m at an event and cant watch the game. That means when we win I can’t watch the rest of the games.  Go Caps!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:39:09 PM Eastern
Holy Shnit!  Is this our Caps!  Awesome start.  Lucky break too. Hens missed a gimme.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:39:20 PM Eastern
now we are lucky
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:40:56 PM Eastern
Jesus they’re giving up a lot of long cross passes. . .


We bitter be careful before they start picking em off
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:49:07 PM Eastern
Looks like the “ice” issue is back . . .  (Stupid basketball)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 26, 2018, 07:58:43 PM Eastern
Could be 3-0 us.. Could be 3-1 them.. Too many chances both way for this to end well..
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:04:00 PM Eastern
Holby is making some big saves, but looks calm and collected.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:05:06 PM Eastern
Could be 3-0 us.. Could be 3-1 them.. Too many chances both way for this to end well..




Easily....
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:11:55 PM Eastern
Could be 3-0 us.. Could be 3-1 them.. Too many chances both way for this to end well..
Agreed . . . Need to get control of then and us
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:13:36 PM Eastern
Looks like the “ice” issue is back . . .  (Stupid basketball)
    What's wrong with basketball? To be honest I don't follow it anymore either. I had a couple severe injuries playing basketball. Tore my achilles playing basketball and I've never played any sports since.  Ever since that injury I despise the game.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:15:55 PM Eastern
 :fcrosby:

The first of many Crosby dives. FAKER!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:16:17 PM Eastern
There go the refs coddling Crosby sack...
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:16:20 PM Eastern
weak ass bullscat
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:17:37 PM Eastern
weak ass bullscat
   Very weak call
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: chas on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:18:32 PM Eastern
What's wrong with basketball?  Illegal defenses and shot clocks are a start.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:24:42 PM Eastern
oh damn, phat Phil is hurt
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:27:38 PM Eastern
What's wrong with basketball?  Illegal defenses and shot clocks are a start.
   Lol. I used to love playing the game. Very physically demanding sport.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:33:13 PM Eastern

(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fshoot-the-damn-puck.jpg&hash=7f80df6011252e77a4a85fe3f306e9a5606f28c9)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:36:59 PM Eastern
Why do a playoff spot with Carlson?


He sounds like a Ben Stien at the DMV
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:39:20 PM Eastern
:70:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:40:19 PM Eastern
    What's wrong with basketball? To be honest I don't follow it anymore either. I had a couple severe injuries playing basketball. Tore my achilles playing basketball and I've never played any sports since.  Ever since that injury I despise the game.
When the Bullets (aka Wizards) play the day before and they lay the court over the ice, or there’s a concert or other event where the ice is covered, he ice quality suffers. . . Seemingly more so at The  Booth/Crap2 Center than other venues


It has improved over the years, but that’s the reason for our “bad ice” 90+% of the time
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:45:27 PM Eastern
May be Pens have a little more quality chances.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:48:10 PM Eastern
When the Bullets (aka Wizards) play the day before and they lay the court over the ice, or there’s a concert or other event where the ice is covered, he ice quality suffers. . . Seemingly more so at The  Booth/Crap2 Center than other venues


It has improved over the years, but that’s the reason for our “bad ice” 90+% of the time
   I still consider them the Bullets. First time I watched the NBA finals was in 78. The Bullets beat the Supersonics. I believe Wes unseld was the mvp
    It does suck that it messes up the ice.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:49:25 PM Eastern
Roenick:  loves Willie. . .


Bitches about the same things of the Caps I do  :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 08:53:57 PM Eastern
   I still consider them the Bullets. First time I watched the NBA finals was in 78. The Bullets beat the Supersonics. I believe Wes unseld was the mvp
    It does suck that it messes up the ice.
Hell here in Baltimore they’ll always be the Bullets  ;D


But yes, they used to be REALLY bad about scheduling other events and screwing up the ice.  Hell they used have the temp set so high you wouldn’t know there was an ice rink there
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:01:26 PM Eastern
Hell here in Baltimore they’ll always be the Bullets  ;D


But yes, they used to be REALLY bad about scheduling other events and screwing up the ice.  Hell they used have the temp set so high you wouldn’t know there was an ice rink there

Is it possible the insulating pad they put down between the ice and the wooden floor is actually making the ice too cold?
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:01:45 PM Eastern
Hell here in Baltimore they’ll always be the Bullets  ;D


But yes, they used to be REALLY bad about scheduling other events and screwing up the ice.  Hell they used have the temp set so high you wouldn’t know there was an ice rink there


they were the Baltimore Bullets when they won it
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:01:57 PM Eastern
:8z:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:03:11 PM Eastern
Alex Ovechkin !!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:03:17 PM Eastern
OVIE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:04:40 PM Eastern
Pedal to the metal!! Stay strong!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:04:43 PM Eastern
and now it's the dreaded two goal lead
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:05:56 PM Eastern
and now it's the dreaded two goal lead


Too true...
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:06:54 PM Eastern

Too true...


Well...there we go
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:07:34 PM Eastern
Ah fuck
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:08:47 PM Eastern
Well that one coulda been stopped. . .Good job Ovie and Orlov  (Ō_ƆŎ) >:(
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:09:51 PM Eastern
For fucks sakes
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:10:50 PM Eastern
Jesus this team can be so fukin predictable
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:10:53 PM Eastern
shit
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:11:10 PM Eastern
. . .
 :koolaid:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:11:10 PM Eastern
There's our caps. 
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:11:58 PM Eastern
Can't beat them w/o Malkin.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:12:10 PM Eastern
There's our caps. 


It hurts how accurate that is.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:13:16 PM Eastern
Well that one coulda been stopped. . .Good job Ovie and Orlov  (Ō_ƆŎ) >:(
   Ovi was on Crosby and he just let him go. Wtf is he thinking? Your can't leave Crosby alone
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:14:07 PM Eastern
The Oralgasms for the Hens by the NBC crew is sickening as usual.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:15:38 PM Eastern
Oh boy
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:15:38 PM Eastern
 (Ō_ƆŎ)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:16:36 PM Eastern
Same shit different year.  Clear icing that led to the 3rd goal.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:17:09 PM Eastern
Grrrr... different year same story...this hurts. Need t get our heads out of our asses.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:17:24 PM Eastern
   Ovi was on Crosby and he just let him go. Wtf is he thinking? Your can't leave Crosby alone


Didn’t let him go. Fanned on the puck.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:17:57 PM Eastern
This just is what it is guys. We knew it'd happen. Hopefully this will just be the end of this current rendition of the Caps. This isn't CBJ and these guys know they can't beat the Pens.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:17:59 PM Eastern
Pathetic.  Orlov anc Nisky need benched.


Completely inexecusable
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:18:39 PM Eastern

Didn’t let him go. Fanned on the puck.
   He played the puck instead of the man.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:19:08 PM Eastern
This just is what it is guys. We knew it'd happen. Hopefully this will just be the end of this current rendition of the Caps. This isn't CBJ and these guys know they can't beat the Pens.
There’s a problem:
:koolaid:


This shit is good enough for Dickless Patrick and naive fans
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:19:41 PM Eastern
Pathetic.  Orlov anc Nisky need benched.


Completely inexecusable
   They have been a disaster in the defensive zone.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:19:59 PM Eastern
Such bullshit. They have 2PPs and we have none!  Really?  No penalties all night?  Fucking horseshit.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:20:11 PM Eastern
3rd Hens Dive.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:20:33 PM Eastern
Omg Stephenson didn't touch Letang. It was embellishment. What a fucking joke.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:20:50 PM Eastern
There’s our one PP.  30 seconds.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:20:50 PM Eastern
There’s a problem:
 :koolaid:


This shit is good enough for Dickless Patrick and naive fans


And that's why I just don't care anymore. It's good enough for Ted so screw it. Why raise my BP and get pissed over what's good enough for him?
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:20:53 PM Eastern
what bullshit dive ass puck bitch ass sucking call
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Brinkhoffs52 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:22:48 PM Eastern
At least DSP helped even out that shit call.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:23:14 PM Eastern
that bullshit is what cindey has brought to shitsburgh and why I have zero respect for them
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:25:47 PM Eastern
Life as a Caps fan is just a big bag of dicks. Always will be.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:26:20 PM Eastern
Why in the fuck is Suzy taking face offs?


Oh yeah, and the guy he’s up against has 2points and tied it. . .


“But hes the first line center and haz skillz. . . :koolaid:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:29:32 PM Eastern

And that's why I just don't care anymore. It's good enough for Ted so screw it. Why raise my BP and get pissed over what's good enough for him?
I’m right with you
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:33:04 PM Eastern
Every year it’s the same. We let up and they jam it up our ass.  We don’t plat 60 and we pay.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:36:08 PM Eastern
Well at least they’re adjusting . . .
 :rofl: :wackysmile: ;D :lol: ;)
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:39:35 PM Eastern
WE WILL NEVER BEAT THIS TEAM IN A SERIES.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:42:04 PM Eastern
WE WILL NEVER BEAT THIS TEAM IN A SERIES.
Not under Patrick or BetaMale


They have no desire and less ability to build team that wants to
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:43:03 PM Eastern
Too many men on the ice all 60 minutes. 5 Penguins and the refs vs, 5 Caps.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:43:17 PM Eastern
Hens in 5. Another choke leads to the demise. 3 goals in 4 minutes. We find creative ways to lose to them.  Hats off.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:44:24 PM Eastern
Not under Patrick or BetaMale


They have no desire and less ability to build team that wants to


Not under anyone. It's been proven.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:44:31 PM Eastern
ok, bye all!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:45:28 PM Eastern

Not under anyone. It's been proven.
Why so pessimistic?
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:45:28 PM Eastern
Hey the NFL draft is on. . . Wonder who will get to a Championship round first:  The Caps, or my Lions. . . .


The fuckin Lions.


BetaMale is in Matt Miller territory of GM caliber
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:45:59 PM Eastern
ok, bye all!

CIAO!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:46:02 PM Eastern
Hens in 5. Another choke leads to the demise. 3 goals in 4 minutes. We find creative ways to lose to them.  Hats off.


Hopefully in 4. Why drag it out?
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:46:32 PM Eastern
Why so pessimistic?


Is that a serious question ?
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:47:05 PM Eastern
Sharks vs LVK can be interesting. I didn't like this game.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:47:27 PM Eastern
Hmmm Ravens traded down. . . Interesting
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:48:26 PM Eastern

Hopefully in 4. Why drag it out?


Nah.  We’ll win Sunday and we’ll be all “we can win on the road.” Then lose both at PPG. Then decide tee times look inviting and phone it in for game 5 at home.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:48:41 PM Eastern

Is that a serious question ?
Well, what is a point to watch? I think we have chances and Pens are not playing so well. 
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:50:08 PM Eastern
Well, what is a point to watch? I think we have chances and Pens are not playing so well.


Because even not playing well they have a 4 minute spurt and it’s enough to beat our sorry ass like a drum.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:52:05 PM Eastern
It always starts with that fuckwad Hornqvist. He gets a lucky ass deflection and you can see our guys saying “Ruh roh.  Here it comes again.”  So far inside our collective heads we might as well forfeit.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: HoustonCapsFan on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:53:26 PM Eastern
How many 2 fukkin goal leads can we blow in the payoffs?  I bet we are close to the record.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:53:37 PM Eastern
Well, what is a point to watch? I think we have chances and Pens are not playing so well.


I didn't watch. I score checked. We have ZERO chance of winning this series and you know it. It's NOT gonna happen. I'm not just being negative. We all know this WILL end. I'd bet anything on it.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: OldHat on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:54:20 PM Eastern
They took their foot off the gas.  Simple as that.  Outworked them for two periods then started playing slowly and more deliberately and got burnt.  Coastin OV IN the third.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:54:55 PM Eastern
It always starts with that fuckwad Hornqvist. He gets a lucky ass deflection and you can see our guys saying “Ruh roh.  Here it comes again.”  So far inside our collective heads we might as well forfeit.


Forfeit would be hilarious.  I honestly wish they could just to save the REPEATED embarrassing choke jobs.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:55:30 PM Eastern
Disappointing loss. Every fucking time we play the Pens.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:57:26 PM Eastern
God is a Pens fan. No other possible answer.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 09:58:33 PM Eastern
(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fscoring_summary.gif&hash=e4c44b0c35837704bf29d0ee1ad212f9)

1st Period
00:17  GOAL 92-Kuznetsov, assists 8-Ovechkin & 43-Wilson   1-0 WSH

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
00:28  GOAL -Ovechkin, assists 43-Wilson & 9-Orlov   2-0 WSH
02:59  Hens GOAL Hornqvist, assists Schultz & Guentzel   2-1 WSH
05:20  Hens GOAL Crosby, assists Guentzel & Hornqvist   2-2 TIE
07:48  Hens GOAL Guentzel, assist Crosby  3-2 PIT

FINAL:    3-2 PIT
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:02:56 PM Eastern
It's one game folks. We came back from 2 down and won 4 straight last series. This team has shown incredible improvement and more heart than we've seen in ages. I'm not freaking out. I honestly did not freak out when we were down 2-0 last series because we were playing well. Same here. With more good coaching and adjustments we have a shot.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:06:31 PM Eastern
V-G-K!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:06:35 PM Eastern
Hey the NFL draft is on. . . Wonder who will get to a Championship round first:  The Caps, or my Lions. . . .


The fuckin Lions.


BetaMale is in Matt Miller territory of GM caliber


that is a tough call, I'd be tempted to take the Caps over the Lions
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:07:56 PM Eastern
They took their foot off the gas.  Simple as that.  Outworked them for two periods then started playing slowly and more deliberately and got burnt.  Coastin OV IN the third.


yep, the typical play of this team with a two goal lead, postseason not withstanding
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:15:03 PM Eastern
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VprQ4oOnu14
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:19:19 PM Eastern
V-G-K!!!! 


Former Cap Eakin followed by Haula
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: justwincaps on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:22:25 PM Eastern
I was at work, recorded the game, did everything I could while at work not to hear the results, got in my car, forgot I'd left the radio on and they announce the score.   So f'n glad I don't have to watch us collapse yet again.   We can't even beat this team without Malkin.   What a joke.


On the other side, VGK up 3-0 early in the first.  Nice to see a team get a two goal lead and actually try to increase it.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Mickstix on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:23:00 PM Eastern
Wow, another 2 goal lead lost at home. In the 3rd period no less.   :rofl:
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:30:35 PM Eastern
I was at work, recorded the game, did everything I could while at work not to hear the results, got in my car, forgot I'd left the radio on and they announce the score.   So f'n glad I don't have to watch us collapse yet again.   We can't even beat this team without Malkin.   What a joke.


On the other side, VGK up 3-0 early in the first.  Nice to see a team get a two goal lead and actually try to increase it.
Schidtt, Eakin, Ward, Fehr, . . . We could of used all of em tonight
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: justwincaps on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:31:53 PM Eastern
4-0 VGK!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:32:58 PM Eastern
Wow, another 2 goal lead lost at home. In the 3rd period no less.   :rofl:


The softness of this team continues. After showing toughness vs CBJ they give up o e deflection and fold like a cheap tent.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:34:19 PM Eastern
TUCH!!!




That was ridiculous!!!!
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: apace41 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:35:14 PM Eastern
Credit to Murray.  He made a couple of ridiculous saves on sure goals and wound up being the difference.  Holts was great other than the Crosby goal.  Largely on Ovie for poor D but that one should not get through.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:36:18 PM Eastern
Anybody surprised?  Anyone at all?  All the elements of past losses were there; squandering leads, failing to press the attack after we had the lead, confusion in our own end and poor goaltending at critical moments.  Most of all though, besides having better talent, Pittsburgh is just a vastly better coached team.  Trotz and co. just have no clue at all about how to win   This one is already over and everyone knows it.  Imagine when Malkin and Hagelin return. :(
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:38:46 PM Eastern
 
 

Holtby made a bad play on the 3rd goal, too.  He dumped it around the boards right to Crosby.  If you're going to shoot it up the boards, you have to have some idea as to who is there.  He was barely back in position and the puck was off Crosby's stick headed to the net.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: justwincaps on Thursday April 26, 2018, 10:40:01 PM Eastern
Anybody surprised?  Anyone at all?  All the elements of past losses were there; squandering leads, failing to press the attack after we had the lead, confusion in our own end and poor goaltending at critical moments.  Most of all though, besides having better talent, Pittsburgh is just a vastly better coached team.  Trotz and co. just have no clue at all about how to win   This one is already over and everyone knows it.  Imagine when Malkin and Hagelin return. :(


Agree.  Agree. Agree.
And the sad truth is that as soon as our sorry asses are escorted out in the second round again, Trotz will be fired and will bring in his assistant to take over.   just like GMGM was shown the door only to bring in his protege in GMBM, Trotz will be fired and Rierdan will take over.
And it will be SSDD all over again.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Thursday April 26, 2018, 11:12:21 PM Eastern
Caps win the next 4. You heard it here first. They will become the first team to win the Cup that loses the first game in every series.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: justwincaps on Thursday April 26, 2018, 11:52:19 PM Eastern
Caps win the next 4. You heard it here first. They will become the first team to win the Cup that loses the first game in every series.


Love the optimism.
Question the sanity - but love the optimism.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Racer17l on Friday April 27, 2018, 12:19:11 AM Eastern
Caps win the next 4. You heard it here first. They will become the first team to win the Cup that loses the first game in every series.


Not trying to troll you but the Pens did that already in 1991 and beat the Caps along the way.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: RavenCp on Friday April 27, 2018, 12:53:56 AM Eastern

I'm sure there were many different teams. We can say may be they beat Holtby and Kuzya 2 times and Ovie/Backstrom 3 times. Their organization is better staring with owner who understands hockey, etc. Sill Caps have chances. This will be third year when I'm rooting for ousting Trotz. Nash did right a thing to rid of him, they are doing much better now. Anyway, this the first game, with a home disadvantage.   
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Friday April 27, 2018, 08:16:40 AM Eastern
V-G-K!!!!


Easy to build a team when you're taking everyone else's talent.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday April 27, 2018, 08:39:15 AM Eastern

Easy to build a team when you're taking everyone else's talent.
Actually, not really.


   There where plenty of names and starts that we’re unprotected, and/or opportunities to get 3 or-so mega-stars to sell the team and hope for the best.


But GMGM went through & found high value players with good contracts that were under appreciated by thier teams.  Hell, there are GMs that would have chosen Orpik over Schmidt on a brand new team.


If the Caps had added TUCH, R. Smith, or Karrlson, most Caps fans wouldn’t of heard of them, or wondered why when we have Connolly and Bura, because “skill” or whatever.


Bottom line is GMGM went through and built a combination of contracts and castoffs that have become one of the best teams in league in one year. 


Besides, just go to a game there, its the abut the craziest time you'll have at a hockey game!

Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday April 27, 2018, 09:03:43 AM Eastern

 

Holtby made a bad play on the 3rd goal, too.  He dumped it around the boards right to Crosby.  If you're going to shoot it up the boards, you have to have some idea as to who is there.  He was barely back in position and the puck was off Crosby's stick headed to the net.
   The dmen didn't give him any support. Maybe miscommunication.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday April 27, 2018, 09:09:54 AM Eastern

Easy to build a team when you're taking everyone else's talent.
    Vegas had a lot if guys to choose from but it looks like they chose the right guys.
  I really don't like how this whole Vegas thing played out. There was way too much talent available for them in the expansion draft. That along with deals that were made to prevent Vegas from taking certain players. Vegas made out very well. GMGM did a good job at drafting and dealing but it was made pretty easy for him. With the talent available there was no doubt they would be decent. They are still exceeding expectations.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Friday April 27, 2018, 09:57:29 AM Eastern

Easy to build a team when you're taking everyone else's talent.


Not really.  The talent available were the guys other teams didn't want.  That you could select wisely, hire the right coach, install the right system and have the team they have is a tribute to their management.  McPhee did there what he couldn't do here but it was arguably a much tougher task.  The lesson of Vegas is also that coaching is very important.  Gallant has them playing very smart hockey.  You never see them just dumping the puck up the boards blindly to the other team or throwing it mindlessly into empty space in a panic.  The Caps do this constantly all game.  It's one of the reasons they can't beat Pittsburgh.  No discipline and too much dumb play.  Vegas also has the mindset of attack, attack, attack whether up 3 or down 3.  That's another lesson the Caps have never learned.  I'm seeing some sour grapes here because the local crew can't do it.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday April 27, 2018, 10:09:56 AM Eastern

Not really.  The talent available were the guys other teams didn't want.  That you could select wisely, hire the right coach, install the right system and have the team they have is a tribute to their management.  McPhee did there what he couldn't do here but it was arguably a much tougher task.  The lesson of Vegas is also that coaching is very important.  Gallant has them playing very smart hockey.  You never see them just dumping the puck up the boards blindly to the other team or throwing it mindlessly into empty space in a panic.  The Caps do this constantly all game.  It's one of the reasons they can't beat Pittsburgh.  No discipline and too much dumb play.  Vegas also has the mindset of attack, attack, attack whether up 3 or down 3.  That's another lesson the Caps have never learned.

Yep, which is why we need to question Dick Patrick and the Monumental Board.


Before getting into the multiple runours etc , it’s simple to see that not a lot has changed since GMGM left, and what has just has been for the worse.


But without Patrick, Ted, et all.,  look what GMGM has done,





Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Friday April 27, 2018, 10:33:03 AM Eastern
Yep, which is why we need to question Dick Patrick and the Monumental Board.


Before getting into the multiple runours etc , it’s simple to see that not a lot has changed since GMGM left, and what has just has been for the worse.


But without Patrick, Ted, et all.,  look what GMGM has done,


I'll always disagree about McPhee. He was terrible. I want to see where Vegas is in 6 or 7 years when his draft picks are the core of the team. Look at McPhee's entire draft history outside of the first round while in Washington. I think Out of 16 years Holtby and Orlov had an impact? It's an atrocious record.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday April 27, 2018, 11:04:45 AM Eastern
    Vegas had a lot if guys to choose from but it looks like they chose the right guys.
  I really don't like how this whole Vegas thing played out. There was way too much talent available for them in the expansion draft. That along with deals that were made to prevent Vegas from taking certain players. Vegas made out very well. GMGM did a good job at drafting and dealing but it was made pretty easy for him. With the talent available there was no doubt they would be decent. They are still exceeding expectations.

I agree. I said from the beginning it was unfair. They had twice the pool to choose from than the last expansion draft in 2000 from which the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Minnesota Wild had to draw from. This means they had four times the opportunity of the last expansion teams.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Friday April 27, 2018, 11:06:49 AM Eastern
I agree. I said from the beginning it was unfair. They had twice the pool to choose from than the last expansion draft in 2000 from which the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Minnesota Wild had to draw from. This means they had four times the opportunity of the last expansion teams.


Exactly, even McPhee couldn't screw it up.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday April 27, 2018, 12:14:10 PM Eastern

Exactly, even McPhee couldn't screw it up.
I actuallh think a lot of them would, GMBetaMale for example


This system was designed to make Vegas immediately competitive, but there’s no way in hell the NHL wanted what happened.  The NHL loves “stars” and marketing them, which is one reason why teams protected “stars”, while hoping better players, and/or higher value players went unprotected.


It was well within the ability of the other GMs to salary dump, rebuild their team, while  leaving high dollar dollar contracts that would create a disfunctional disaster for a team, but they got outmanuvered and played.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Friday April 27, 2018, 01:58:12 PM Eastern

Exactly, even McPhee couldn't screw it up.


Of course when teams like Washington give away a guy like Schmidt for nothing it makes it easier but it doesn't make it easy.  Let's look at some of these "stars" Vegas got for nothing:


William Karlsson   43-35-78 in 82 games -    Prior to that 18-32-50 in 183 games (0.27 ppg)
Jonathan Marchessault 23-48-75 in 77 games -  Prior to that 38-32-70 in 124 games (0.56 ppg)
David Perron 15-50-66 in 70 games -  Prior to that 155-219-374 in 652 games (0.57 ppg)
Reilly Smith 22-38-60 in 67 games- Prior to that 76-111-187 in 365 games (0.51 ppg)
Eric Haula 29-26-55 in 76 games- Prior to that 42-47-89 in 266 games (0.33 ppg)
James Neal 25-19-44 in 71 games- Prior to that 238-451-689 in 632 games (1.09 ppg)
Alex Tuch 15-22-37 in 82 games- Prior to that 0 points in 6 games
Cody Eakin 11-16-27 in 82 games- Prior to that 69-85-154 in 383 games (0.40 ppg)


So, every one of these guys with the exception of Neal and Eakin outperformed their career stats, sometimes by wide margins.  Eakin was slightly under and Neal, who was arguably the easiest pick to make among the forwards, grossly underperformed his career stats.   Who would predict that?


Looking at the defense, we see:


Colin Miller
Nate Schmidt
Shea Theodore
Deryk Engelland
Brad Hunt
Brayden McNabb


Now, tell me that anyone on the planet outside Vegas saw that as a division winning, cup contending defense.  Nobody did.  As for Fleury, yes, he had a solid track record and has played very well.  So, all in all, Vegas has done a masterful job in seeing something in these guys and molding all the parts together into a top team.  Excellent coaching also helps immensely.  Any idea that this was easy or just "picking stars" out of a hat, is completely wrong.





Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday April 27, 2018, 06:11:54 PM Eastern
I agree. I said from the beginning it was unfair. They had twice the pool to choose from than the last expansion draft in 2000 from which the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Minnesota Wild had to draw from. This means they had four times the opportunity of the last expansion teams.
   You guys should look back to the Caps roster when they were an expansion franchise. It wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: KitFisto on Saturday April 28, 2018, 09:57:37 AM Eastern

Of course when teams like Washington give away a guy like Schmidt for nothing it makes it easier but it doesn't make it easy.  Let's look at some of these "stars" Vegas got for nothing:


William Karlsson   43-35-78 in 82 games -    Prior to that 18-32-50 in 183 games (0.27 ppg)
Jonathan Marchessault 23-48-75 in 77 games -  Prior to that 38-32-70 in 124 games (0.56 ppg)
David Perron 15-50-66 in 70 games -  Prior to that 155-219-374 in 652 games (0.57 ppg)
Reilly Smith 22-38-60 in 67 games- Prior to that 76-111-187 in 365 games (0.51 ppg)
Eric Haula 29-26-55 in 76 games- Prior to that 42-47-89 in 266 games (0.33 ppg)
James Neal 25-19-44 in 71 games- Prior to that 238-451-689 in 632 games (1.09 ppg)
Alex Tuch 15-22-37 in 82 games- Prior to that 0 points in 6 games
Cody Eakin 11-16-27 in 82 games- Prior to that 69-85-154 in 383 games (0.40 ppg)


So, every one of these guys with the exception of Neal and Eakin outperformed their career stats, sometimes by wide margins.  Eakin was slightly under and Neal, who was arguably the easiest pick to make among the forwards, grossly underperformed his career stats.   Who would predict that?


Looking at the defense, we see:


Colin Miller
Nate Schmidt
Shea Theodore
Deryk Engelland
Brad Hunt
Brayden McNabb


Now, tell me that anyone on the planet outside Vegas saw that as a division winning, cup contending defense.  Nobody did.  As for Fleury, yes, he had a solid track record and has played very well.  So, all in all, Vegas has done a masterful job in seeing something in these guys and molding all the parts together into a top team.  Excellent coaching also helps immensely.  Any idea that this was easy or just "picking stars" out of a hat, is completely wrong.




The flip side of that argument is that some of these players just needed the opportunity to be in a more prominent role to break out or others needed new scenery. No, one thought they'd be THIS good, but the writing was on the wall that they'd certainly be a competitive team unlike any other expansion team ever has been.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Saturday April 28, 2018, 10:20:25 AM Eastern



The flip side of that argument is that some of these players just needed the opportunity to be in a more prominent role to break out or others needed new scenery. No, one thought they'd be THIS good, but the writing was on the wall that they'd certainly be a competitive team unlike any other expansion team ever has been.


Yes, but competitive and being a league power are two different things.  Winning 35-40 games is competitive.  As for guys just needing an opportunity or new scenery, that was my point.  Vegas management saw something other teams missed and they took a chance on these guys.  That's far different than having some pot of riches to dip into where you can make a powerhouse practically by accident.  That's the suggestion which was being made here which I completely disagree with.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday April 28, 2018, 03:15:04 PM Eastern
They had to pick 1 player from each team and picked the best one available.. Seems pretty easy to me. The ones that took the chance were the teams who left player's with upside unprotected and coddled their "stars"...
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: DC_1908 on Saturday April 28, 2018, 07:35:53 PM Eastern



The flip side of that argument is that some of these players just needed the opportunity to be in a more prominent role to break out or others needed new scenery. No, one thought they'd be THIS good, but the writing was on the wall that they'd certainly be a competitive team unlike any other expansion team ever has been.
Yep no one anticipated they’d be this good because they thought they’d be picking the likes of Orpik because they protected Carlson and hoped they would ignore Schmidt.


So, he didn’t go through and just pick the “7th best” player on each team . . .


They thought competitive would be an all-star or two and a late playoff push, . , yet GMGM took every advantage and manipulated everyone to make a team of virtual unknowns and six alternate captains to make a serious cup threat.  Not a contender, not a chance, but a “it’s damn near there’s to loose”.

Vegas picked the perfect GM for this, and least 28 other GMs would have been struggling to make the playoffs and/or in cap-hell next year and in the forseable future if they where in his place.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: alta on Saturday April 28, 2018, 08:06:07 PM Eastern
Yep no one anticipated they’d be this good because they thought they’d be picking the likes of Orpik because they protected Carlson and hoped they would ignore Schmidt.


So, he didn’t go through and just pick the “7th best” player on each team . . .


They thought competitive would be an all-star or two and a late playoff push, . , yet GMGM took every advantage and manipulated everyone to make a team of virtual unknowns and six alternate captains to make a serious cup threat.  Not a contender, not a chance, but a “it’s damn near there’s to loose”.

Vegas picked the perfect GM for this, and least 28 other GMs would have been struggling to make the playoffs and/or in cap-hell next year and in the forseable future if they where in his place.


IMHO, I think you're giving GMGM just a bit too much credit, it was Bettman that pretty much handed Vegas a Cup with that stupid draft, teams should have been able to protect more than 10 players(12 would've been good), and I'm willing to bet that will be the case with the next expansion team
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday April 28, 2018, 10:36:20 PM Eastern

IMHO, I think you're giving GMGM just a bit too much credit, it was Bettman that pretty much handed Vegas a Cup with that stupid draft, teams should have been able to protect more than 10 players(12 would've been good), and I'm willing to bet that will be the case with the next expansion team
   I have to agree. There was too much talent made available.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Racer17l on Sunday April 29, 2018, 12:05:15 PM Eastern
   I have to agree. There was too much talent made available.


The league has already said Seattle will have the same set up.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: waynerivers on Sunday April 29, 2018, 12:38:48 PM Eastern

IMHO, I think you're giving GMGM just a bit too much credit, it was Bettman that pretty much handed Vegas a Cup with that stupid draft, teams should have been able to protect more than 10 players(12 would've been good), and I'm willing to bet that will be the case with the next expansion team


Handed them a cup?  C'mon man.  The players they picked hadn't shown all that much prior to going to Vegas.  This idea that all you need to do to have a powerhouse is get an expansion team, is silly.  If the same cast Vegas has was handed to Trotz and company the results would be much different.  Coaching and philosophy is a vital component and we don't have adequate coaching in DC.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: Maacoshark on Sunday April 29, 2018, 12:51:11 PM Eastern

Handed them a cup?  C'mon man.  The players they picked hadn't shown all that much prior to going to Vegas.  This idea that all you need to do to have a powerhouse is get an expansion team, is silly.  If the same cast Vegas has was handed to Trotz and company the results would be much different.  Coaching and philosophy is a vital component and we don't have adequate coaching in DC.
   I wouldn't say handed them a cup but they were handed a contender. The expansion rules were a joke. Each team only protecting either 10 or 8 skaters. Past expansion draft rules had team protecting 14 or 15 players and the players left available were dispersed to 2 teams some seasons. I can't remember the exact rules of each expansion draft but this one had a lot more talent available for one team then every in the history of expansion.
    Alot of teams in the NHL are in rebuild mode which takes several years. Why rebuild? Fold the team and build can expansion team instead. Its obviously alot quicker with these rules.
Title: Re: GDT R2G1 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-04-26 7:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC
Post by: richkrt99 on Wednesday May 02, 2018, 07:19:37 PM Eastern
Yep no one anticipated they’d be this good because they thought they’d be picking the likes of Orpik because they protected Carlson and hoped they would ignore Schmidt.


So, he didn’t go through and just pick the “7th best” player on each team . . .


They thought competitive would be an all-star or two and a late playoff push, . , yet GMGM took every advantage and manipulated everyone to make a team of virtual unknowns and six alternate captains to make a serious cup threat.  Not a contender, not a chance, but a “it’s damn near there’s to loose”.

Vegas picked the perfect GM for this, and least 28 other GMs would have been struggling to make the playoffs and/or in cap-hell next year and in the forseeable future if they where in his place.


I have to disagree a bit here also.  I think GMGM did a masterful job, but he had a HUGE pool to draw from that was simply too generous.  And it wasn't "cast-offs", but rather a big list of players teams simply could not protect.  It was unfair to the teams who were relatively talent heavy (like the Caps).  I mean if you had a team with four great forwards and 3 great defensmen and 1 good goalie, and the rest were a bunch of scrubs, then you weren't in danger of losing anything really.  However, if you had lots of "good" players and TWO good goaltenders, then you knew for a fact you were giving up a quality player.  I mean VGK got an all-star, seasoned and proven goaltender with playoff experience right off the bat.  That alone is unfair.  How many other teams would like to have picked up MAF for FREE?
Nobody wanted to see Schmidt go, but who would you have let go instead?  Orlov?  Niskanen?  Carlson?  Hah!  You're lying if you tell me you think Schmidt was on par with any of those three at the end of last year.  We certainly all loved him for his personality and his speed and his POTENTIAL upside, but can you honestly say (based on where he was at the end of last year) you would rather have Nate on the Caps in THIS current series against the Hens than either Carlson or Nisky?  Schmidt had a very good playoff last year, but was shakey at best throughout the season.  Did he even make the lineup all year?  Don't get me wrong, I liked the guy, but he was UNPROVEN and based on the Caps D situation at the end of last year KNOWING Alzner was gone, I can't argue with protecting Nisky and Carlson.


I personally would have left Carlson unprotected because I think he was going to be gone after this year.  (also we didn't know he was going to have a banner year this year (well, Maako probably did  :P )  I'm not down on Carlson, but basically figure he was to be a lost cause in a year, so why not protect Schmidt and force Vegas to take Carlson....Risky for sure, but you'd only lose a year of Carlson anyway.
[size=78%]I would also have left Orpik unprotected based on the cap hit and his age, even though I think he still has had value beyond what we see.  His lack of speed is exposed in this series, but his physical play and toughness (and unseen leadership) certainly has helped get us here.  At least he still frigging clobbers a guy standing in the crease.  We are already short on grit on this team....imagine it without Orpik.  Fucking Crybaby Hens absolutely hate being hit and it shows.  Imagine this team without Wilson or Orpik.  Hens would be ice dancing around without a worry in the world.[/size]


Oh, and I'm not arguing all your points DC, but didn't you absolutely hate GMGM when he was here?  Complained about him every year at the deadline NOT having balls to make the big trade, not taking a chance, not willing to blow it up and start over...  Now he's a genius because he built a team with the most generous draft in history?


I mean all this is 20/20 hind sight so its horseshit anyway, but this draft was a joke.  How about offer this draft opportunity to ANY team that didn't make the playoffs this year and tell me they would not leap at it?  Why not offer them the same chance you offered Vegas - an expansion team?  Why do they get an opportunity at a draft class absolutely no other team in history has had?


Rant done.  Go Caps!  Hit that friggin Crybaby Cindy girl every chance you get.