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Game 74: 93-43-23-7 (PTS-W-L-OT) Streak - W1
Wed Mar 20, 2019 Tampa Bay Lightning @ Washington Capitals
Place: Capital One Arena
Time: 7:30 p.m. ET
TV: NBCSN
Radio: 106.7 The Fan, Caps Radio 24/7 (http://tunein.com/radio/Caps-Radio-247-s231201/)
NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2018021133) for Live Box Score
Last Game: Tue March 19 Capitals Won 4-1 against Devils
Next Game: Fri Mar 22, 7:00 pm ET Wild @ Capitals
| :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov | :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson |
| :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana | :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström | :spacer50pix: 77-Oshie |
| :spacer50pix: 62-Hagelin | :spacer50pix: 20-Eller | :spacer50pix: 10-Connolly |
| :spacer50pix: 65-Burakovsky | :spacer50pix: 26-Dowd | :spacer50pix: 18-Stephenson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 6-Kempny | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 2-Niskanen |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 44-Orpik | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 3-Jensen |
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| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby (starter) |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 1-Copley |
-- SCRATCH --
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 23-Jaskin |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 72-Boyd |
| :spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 29-Djoos |
-- INJURED RESERVE --
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-- 1st Powerplay Unit --
| :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov | :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström | :spacer50pix: 77-Oshie |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
-- 2nd Powerplay Unit --
| :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana | :spacer50pix: 20-Eller | :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson |
| :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 2-Niskanen | :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov |
:spacer50pix: Referees: Chris Rooney (#5), Brad Watson (#23)
:spacer50pix: Linesmen: Scott Cherrey (#50), Brian Murphy (#93)
LIGHTNING LINEUP
Ondrej Palat -- Steven Stamkos -- J.T. Miller
Tyler Johnson -- Brayden Point -- Nikita Kucherov
Alex Killorn -- Anthony Cirelli -- Mathieu Joseph
Adam Erne -- Cedric Paquette -- Yanni Gourde
Victor Hedman -- Mikhail Sergachev
Ryan McDonagh -- Erik Cernak
Braydon Coburn -- Jan Rutta
Andrei Vasilevskiy (starter)
Louis Domingue
Scratched: Ryan Callahan, Danick Martel, Cameron Gaunce
Injured: Dan Girardi (lower body), Anton Stralman (lower body)
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1st Period
07:32 GOAL 20-Eller, assist 62-Hagelin 1-0 WSH
2nd Period
01:19 Lightning PP GOAL Kucherov, assists Stamkos & Hedman 1-1 TIE
02:12 Lightning PP GOAL Stamkos, assist miller 2-1 TBL
06:45 Lightning GOAL Cirelli, assist Joseph 3-1 TBL
10:30 GOAL 62-Hagelin, assist 20-Eller 3-2 TBL
13:40 GOAL PP GOAL 77-Oshie, assists 8-Ovechkin & 74-Carlson 3-3 TIE
15:01 Lightning PP GOAL Kucherov, assists Stamkos & Palat 4-3 TBL
3rd Period
19:07 GOAL 92-Kuznetsov, assists 19-Bäckström & 77-Oshie 4-4 TIE
OT
03:01 GOAL Hedman, assist Gourde 5-4 TBL
FINAL: 5-4 TBL
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By Julia Karron March 20, 2019 11:38 am
Alex Ovechkin’s shot voted the best by his peers in NHLPA Player Poll
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Headline photo: @NHLPA
Wednesday morning, the NHLPA released the results from their annual Player Poll, which surveys roughly 500 NHL players on everything from how good other players are, to skills, and arenas and fans.
This season, Capitals captain Alex Ovechkin received the most love as the player with the best shot at a whopping 50.2 percent of the vote.
Others receiving votes in the category were Shea Weber, Patrik Laine, Auston Matthews, and Steven Stamkos.
Ovechkin’s heavy one-timer may be the reason why he is the only player in the NHL currently on target to reach 50 goals this season.
Ovi’s Caps teammates received admiration from the NHLPA too. Nicklas Backstrom and Evgeny Kuznetsov were voted as the second and fourth most underrated players with 11.4 percent and 4.4 percent of the vote, respectively. Last season, Backstrom was voted the league’s most underrated player.
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Brooks Orpik received a nod as the third best general manager candidate after retirement at 4.5 percent behind Sidney Crosby (5.5 percent), and Jason Spezza (4.8 percent).
Other interesting poll results include:
Brad Marchand received the most votes as the best trash talker AND the worst trash-talker in the league. I’d be interested to know what quantifies “best” and “worst,” like variety of material, amount of cursing, things like that.
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Feeling so honored right now all those years of hard work has paid off!! Want to thank everyone who has supported me in this journey to best and worst trash talker and all my work colleagues around the NHL couldnt have done it without you!
- For the first time in the poll, players voted on best female player. US Women’s National Team member and Les Canadiennes forward Hilary Knight beat out her Montreal teammate Marie Philip-Poulin. Both will play in the Clarkson Cup Sunday. Poulin was the only Canadian National Team member to get votes in the top five, although props to the NHLPA for listing the primary teams as their CWHL and NWHL affiliates, which they’ve previously been hesitant to do given the one league talks.
- 66 percent of players would want jerseys that feature nicknames for a game, similar to what the MLB does. How many are just players’ last names with an added “y” or “s” or “er” at the end?
- Connor McDavid has displaced Sidney Crosby as the most difficult player to play against, the best forward, and the player people want to start a franchise with. This feels like a changing of the guard to the next generation of superstars.
- P.K. Subban was voted as the player who’d be the best TV analyst once they retire. Fam, P.K. is already killing the TV game. He’s done analysis for NBC Sports during their telecasts once the Preds were eliminated from the playoffs, and already hosts his own show called The P.K. Project which is available on NBC Sports and YouTube.
- Vegas has the best fan atmosphere after only being around for one year, beating out Montreal’s Bell Centre which won last season. That is mind boggling, and if Seattle is looking for a franchise to emulate when they come into the league, they should take notes from the Golden Knights.
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Let's GO Caps!
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Evening chaps.
I have toothaxhe and am self-medicating.... read in to that what you will. ....
Rooney is a rref. No reading in to there. Expect bias.
Expecting Ovi to score tonight, but not much else to be honest.
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I had a dream about Ovi last night. :snicker: Hope it doesn't put him off his game............... ;) ( Honestly, I did ;D )
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There was also a dream about aa serial killer. :-|
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I had a dream about Ovi last night. :snicker: Hope it doesn't put him off his game............... ;) ( Honestly, I did ;D )
Was he working on your tooth extraction?
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Last minute, going to the game tonight, whoo hoo! Let's go CAPS! Sitting near to the Goat.
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Last minute, going to the game tonight, whoo hoo! Let's go CAPS! Sitting near to the Goat.
Find the camera and post me a " Hey Lily"....!!!!!!!
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Last minute, going to the game tonight, whoo hoo! Let's go CAPS! Sitting near to the Goat.
Well jell! :hearts:
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Was he working on your tooth extraction?
Not exactly...... :lmao: Was a real dream though.
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I had a dream about Ovi last night. :snicker: Hope it doesn't put him off his game............... ;)
Expecting Ovi to score tonight, but not much else to be honest.
Ohhhh, that's unfortunate.. Tell me EVERYTHING!!!! :uh-huh: :rofl: :lol:
I have toothaxhe and am self-medicating.... read in to that what you will. ....
Oh yea, and your tooth hurts.. :yawn: :snicker: :snicker:
Hope ya feel better Lil! :hearts: :hearts:
Last minute, going to the game tonight, whoo hoo! Let's go CAPS! Sitting near to the Goat.
Have fun Barf!! :thumbsup:
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Ohhhh, that's unfortunate.. Tell me EVERYTHING!!!! :uh-huh: :rofl: :lol:
Oh yea, and your tooth hurts.. :yawn: :snicker: :snicker:
Hope ya feel better Lil! :hearts: :hearts:
Have fun Barf!! :thumbsup:
Just'cos yo know how to multi-quote, you show off. :raspberry:
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There was also a dream about aa serial killer. :-|
That would be the Capitals' heavies tonight on TBL goons! :uh-huh:
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I think this game calls for Guinness . . . . Or even two 8-0
I'll be cracking the first one at puck drop. ;D
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That would be the Capitals' heavies tonight on TBL goons! :uh-huh:
We can onlyhope. :praying:
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I think this game calls for Guinness . . . . Or even two 8-0
I'll be cracking the first one at puck drop. ;D
Playig ketchup there buddy..... :P
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I think this game calls for Guinness . . . . Or even two 8-0
Say it with me "Bour-Bon! Bour-Bon!! Bour-Bon!!! " :uh-huh: :wackysmile:
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Da Fook!!! 7:30.. :'( 30 more minutes.. till Bour-Bon.. :( :raised-eyebrow:
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Da Fook!!! 7:30.. :'( 30 more minutes.. till Bour-Bon.. :( :raised-eyebrow:
Um....you can start before puck drop.
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I'm gonna be started about 25 minutes behind
I'll catch up peeps.
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I'm gonna be started about 25 minutes behind
I'll catch up peeps.
To puck drop....not the drinking yuns bunch o lushes.
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That would be the Capitals' heavies tonight on TBL goons! :uh-huh:
Yeah. . . umm, there play tough and physical, but there 11 total fights this year all ended up about like this
https://youtu.be/fz9eHSnrzws (https://youtu.be/fz9eHSnrzws)
Course, Keller’s and Orlovs scraps didn’t end up a lot better. . .
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Fighting the yawns already. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
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Um....you can start before puck drop.
I did, and I just ordered two Papa John's extra-large supreme pizzas. CAPS50 Baby!
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Um....you can start before puck drop.
Bad JuJu!! Buuurrrp.... BADDD!!!!! :raised-eyebrow:
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Ooooh'1 Hot flush! SIZZLE, SZZLE, SIZZLE!
Um, .... what?
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Fighting the yawns already. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
Don't you have cocaine in the UK?
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Don't you have cocaine in the UK?
prolly.... :huh: Not my thang dude. :-|
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Don't you have cocaine in the UK?
I've got one of those choco sticks to melt in hot chocolate, with some marsh mallows............ :uh-huh:
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I've got one of those choco sticks to melt in hot chocolate, with some marsh mallows............ :uh-huh:
...and Bour-Bon!!! :praying: :uh-huh: :clap: :huh:
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:slapshot:
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"cOME ON BIG BOY"! Be the man of my dreams.... :uh-huh:
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Oooops! I know wht it is. Wrong colour......... give me a sec..................
.... There ya go! :wackysmile:
Sporting the tent sized Ovi 8 shirt I got on the pub crawl........... ;D
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8-0
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You're welcome peeps! ;)
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Hope Oshie's okay.
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They have a bunch of tiny forwards and hardly anyone that will fight. . . Caps need to man up and hit the he’ll out of them and wear them out before the playoffs
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Great hustle by TJ on that PP. Not so much by everyone else. :-|
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Niki is 5’11 178, Wilson should be all over him and HITTING THE FUCK OUT out of him. Get him wore out or just out for the playoffx
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I shouldn't have to get a DVR just so the radio broadcast is in sync with the tv broadcast :raised-eyebrow:
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I shouldn't have to get a DVR just so the radio broadcast is in sync with the tv broadcast :raised-eyebrow:
Can't you just watch the telly?
Or get a link?
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Um....you can start before puck drop.
Um....you can start when you wake up in the mornin. Nothing like a mug of coffee with a shot of Baileys and a shot of Jack in it! In that order too, or the Baileys will curdle... ask me how I know
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C'Ovi!
Mybe I wore him out in that dream last night. :uh-huh: mon
Hiccup....
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That was a HELl of a play by Stamkos. Hope Kuzy took notes
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Can't you just watch the telly?
Or get a link?
I'd be watching the telly either way, but if these asshats could sync the radio and tv like the MLB does I wouldn't have to listen to Penishead
the MLB is the local rounders league
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:pppp:
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Meh, We're trying to be too lean and clever instead of just getting in there and getting in done.
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I'd be watching the telly either way, but if these asshats could sync the radio and tv like the MLB does I wouldn't have to listen to Penishead
the MLB is the local rounders league
Ooooh! i used to be good at rounders. :wackysmile:
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I had never heard of the falling down penalty.
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Shocker. Willy inthe box. ::)
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‘Wilson” penalty .... again. Just because it’s Tom Wilson, and just because there’s contact, it doesn’t mean there’s a penalty.
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What the hell kinda woman’s rule shit is that?
If they where gonna call that anyway, Wilson shoulda just drove his head in the ice and put them down a D
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Pretty good 1st, but should have been even more physical.
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I had never heard of the falling down penalty.
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Check out Penguins . co. com....
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‘Wilson” penalty .... again. Just because it;s Tom Wilson, and just because there’s contact, it doesnt mean there’s a -enalty.
Doesn’t help that almost everyone else on this team is afraid to break a nail let alone hit someone
This would of been a great time to put Jaskins in and tell him to go raise hell
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Check out Penguins . co. com....
I mean they called it on Tom for falling down. They bumped into each other and both fell. For some reason Tom got a penalty for what looked like a mutually equal event.
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What the hell kinda woman’s rule shit is that?
If they where gonna call that anyway, Wilson shoulda just drove his head in the ice and put them down a D
You trying to goad me DC?
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Penalty on Wilson was complete bs.. Our last PP, 3 draws, 3 losses.. At least 45 seconds wasted. Other than that it was a decent 20..
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Penalty on Wilson was complete bs.. Our last PP, 3 draws, 3 losses.. At least 45 seconds wasted. Other than that it was a decent 20..
When the whistle blew both Wilson and Hedman looked to the refs to see which of them got called. Just goes to show the insanity.
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Aaaand check out the refs again. Not a shocker. :-| Seriously.
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My little soft Euro's, Ovi and Backus and maybe even Kuzy, they're gonna do something this period.....
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:O=
Lazy PK by CArlson
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Bullshit penalty leads to Tampa goal - thank you NHL refs. TB/NHL 1, Washington 1
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Pffff.
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ANOTHER FUCKING DIVE by these assholes, and the refs fell for it.
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Wow, the refs must of called a woman game last night 🤣
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Elbow?? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: 8) with a stick!
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This games gonna get ugly if we don’t man up and start hitting
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I would love to see an embellishment call once in a while
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Capitals are outplaying TBL and the refs totally flip the results.
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I would love to see an embellishment call once in a while
They’ll probably call one on Wilson for drinking from the water bottle on the bench 🤣
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fucking $8,000,000 defenseman
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Goal Carlson!!! Oh wait
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Caps don't seem to care half as much as I expected this game. PATHETIC effort this period and the refs added even more crap.
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This is all looking terribly messy.
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Garbage Caps again
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This so far looks much like the last game with TBL.
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Oh, I' allowed to post again? Just checking....... :-|
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They quit as soon as they gave up the 2nd goal.. bad luck follows the sulking. Be cool if "our" stars showed up one of these "big" games.. Holtby looks pedestrian, again..
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Carlson just has this retard look on his face after he fucked up
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Niskanen is to experienced to fucking forget to cover the point. :O=
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Kuzy actually hitting guys set that goal up
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Didn't expect us to win this gme, but I thought Ovi would at least get one in. :raised-eyebrow:
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Ooooh'1 There is hope????
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Now were starting to see some of that fierceness we all expected this game.!
:uh-huh:
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Didn't expect us to win this gme, but I thought Ovi would at least get one in. :raised-eyebrow:
I fully expected us to win, and I still do.
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Didn't expect us to win this gme, but I thought Ovi would at least get one in. :raised-eyebrow:
Yeah I just want Ovi to get a goal or two. I expect Caps to lose so I don't really give a crap about the outcome of the game. Just here to watch the best goal scorer ever.
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I fully expected us to win, and I still do.
I will hang on to the coat tails of your optimism..... :wackysmile:
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Very generous of Jon Cooper to say "this is two good teams playing against each other."
LOL. Speak for your own team buddy.
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Penishead sounds like he needs his throat massaged by his horse
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Yeah I just want Ovi to get a goal or two. I expect Caps to lose so I don't really give a crap about the outcome of the game. Just here to watch the best goal scorer ever.
Yeah, I kind of feel like a bit of a bad fan now......... I should be cheering anyway. "Blushing face emote"
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half assed effort by Kuzy on that breakaway
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amazing what happens when you crash the net
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maybe it was the camera angle, but I didn't see a slash
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NICE!
I'm about 30 seconds behind you guys, I think.
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That's the answer I'd expect from the reigning Champs.. Nice to see it's still in there.. :uh-huh: Ballgame coming up.. Can't go 3-3 on the PK and expect anything but defeat.
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I bet that gecko shit the counter when that woman yelled pie
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maybe it was the camera angle, but I didn't see a slash
Because there wasn't one. I went back on DVR and I saw two guys going for the puck and one decided dropping his stick would get a call by idiot refs.
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fucking Nisky can't clear the damn puck
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This is what happens when your system is drawn with pink crayons
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FFS, we can't clear a god damned puck if our life depended on it.
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They was EMBARRASSING
ANOTHER CAP LEAVING THE ICE LOOKING LIKE A GOD DAMN MAXI PAD!!!!
To ANOTHER 5’8” player!!!!
God damn we need more MEN on this team and less womans league EuroTrash
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That does NOT look good. :-(
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Props to Vrana for stepping up, even though he got destroyed. At least he's sending a message to the rest of the losers on our team
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WTF was Vrana thinking
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Props to Vrana for stepping up
To what? The First Aid station?
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Props to Vrana for stepping up, even though he got destroyed. At least he's sending a message to the rest of the losers on our team
Props yes, but he should at least be able to throw a punch if he's going to do that
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I saw one of the refs take one of our guys down... Are they allowed to do that? >:(
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FUCKING DOUCHE BAG NBC GOONS trying to imply Kempny started it and the refs missed it. I saw no evidence of that.
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To what? The First Aid station?
Props to him for having the fucking balls to actually fight. He knows he sucks at fighting, but none of the other fucks on our team are going to even bother.
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Props yes, but he should at least be able to throw a punch if he's going to do that
Every NHL player should
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Every NHL player should
Even Semin? :lmao:
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Props to him for having the fucking balls to actually fight. He knows he sucks at fighting, but none of the other fucks on our team are going to even bother.
That wasn’t actually fighting, not to mention he’s significantly bigger than the guy that fucked him up.
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Oh well, 3/3 on the Pk.. I won't say it's over, but that should mean it's over..
Kempny looked legit hurt.
Jake, lol.. Nice try I guess.
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Even Semin? :lmao:
:lmao:
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Even Semin? :lmao:
Hell Semins bongos ended up better than Varans blood donation
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Seems I wore Ovi out in that dream last night.......... :-\
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Damn Ovie hit the shit out of the glass
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I really, really expected Ovi to score tonight.
Dissappointed.
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Be interesting to see if Jake tries his luck again in the future.. Hopefully a little bloody nose doesn't deter him! But you can't just think you want to scrap, you have to WANT to scrap..
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I thought we actually played pretty well, considering it was the second of a back to back.
Not sure what else to say. Disappointed.
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3rd period.. TIME TO SCRAP!!! :uh-huh: I fully expect us to bust their ass the last 20.. :raised-eyebrow:
(Ok ok, I'm on the 4th bourbon..) + the "thing".. :rofl:
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Night night peeps. :yawn:
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Be interesting to see if Jake tries his luck again in the future.. Hopefully a little bloody nose doesn't deter him! But you can't just think you want to scrap, you have to WANT to scrap..
Hell I’d love to see him hit the weight room harder, take fighting lessons, trade the vodka and cosmos in for Jack Daniels and start playin like a man. . . But I ain’t holding my breath.
Hell, if he became even a respectable middle-weight it would do wonders for us
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Night night peeps. :yawn:
:huh:
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:huh:
What is it tht you don't understqnd?
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Hell I’d love to see him hit the weight room harder, take fighting lessons, trade the vodka and cosmos in for Jack Daniels and start playin like a man. . . But I ain’t holding my breath.
Hell, if he was even a respectable middle-weight it would do wonders for us.
He's green and 23.. Could go either way. Just dropping the gloves was a surprise! On the bright side, "Fight lesson #1" [X] :snicker:
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What is it tht you don't understqnd?
:raspberry:
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We have been hot and cold, but mostly played well. If not for two dives and retarded refs we would be leading in the game. I swear someone needs to educate these refs on embellishment and diving. IMO they enjoy being stupid and the rules being vague so they can sway games whichever way they want.
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We have been hot and cold, but mostly played well. If not for two dives and retarded refs we would be leading in the game. I swear someone needs to educate these refs on embellishment and diving. IMO they enjoy being stupid and the rules being vague so they can sway games whichever way they want.
This is new to you?
REALLY?
::)
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You little tinker, you! :P
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Wilson's stick is held for 2 full seconds and NO CALL!!
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We have been hot and cold, but mostly played well. If not for two dives and retarded refs we would be leading in the game. I swear someone needs to educate these refs on embellishment and diving. IMO they enjoy being stupid and the rules being vague so they can sway games whichever way they want.
They did, but NHL and NBC wanna see the stars score and the PP is a cheap and easy way to do it
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we won 3 draws in a row on the PP. WOW!
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how did Willy miss that 8-0
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Just realised, we have 1 more priod to go.... :wackysmile: :wackysmile: :wackysmile:
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how did Willy miss that 8-0
Must of been bouncing
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Kuzy sometimes passes like a 3 year old with down syndrome.
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Kuzy sometimes passes like a 3 year old with down syndrome.
Sometimes?
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How in the hell does that 5foot nothing Point get right up to Holtby?
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Just realised, we have 1 more priod to go.... :wackysmile: :wackysmile: :wackysmile:
that's usually what happens after an intermission :uh-huh:
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Kuzy sometimes passes like a 3 year old with down syndrome.
They outta send him out with a Pink Bicycle helmet
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that's usually what happens after an intermission :uh-huh:
Well, you folks who don't like the team getting cute and wanting them to fire the puck on net should be happy tonight, at least.
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Kuzy sometimes passes like a 3 year old with down syndrome.
Dylan !
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Sometimes?
Yes, sometimes. At times he passes with a special magic, but he takes stupid risks.
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These guys are ALL TALK! Ain’t none of em gonna drop with Wilson, or even Nisky or even Hooks for that matter
How fuckin weak is that 🤣
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that's usually what happens after an intermission :uh-huh:
I know.
I started way, way too early tonight....
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Well, you folks who don't like the team getting cute and wanting them to fire the puck on net should be happy tonight, at least.
they can't score if they don't shoot
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Kuzy sometimes passes like a 3 year old with down syndrome.
https://youtu.be/heCd3r7MBOQ (https://youtu.be/heCd3r7MBOQ)
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if the Caps don't stop turning it over inside their blue line they are going to lose by 3, again
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this Vaseline kid has OVs number
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pass pass pass pass pass pass pass pass giveawy
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Vrana is pissed, might be a good emotion to share with the rest of the team
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Stop with the tic tac toe, crarsh the net and shoot the fucking puck you idiots!s
Jus' sayin'.
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what the fuck is Ovi doing????
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Vrana is pissed, might be a good emotion to share with the rest of the team
He outta go after Gourde again
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What a freakin awesome game to watch - early playoff hockey intensity and skill.
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Seats look empty in the building.
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Willie just outta laugh every time he’s out there. None of those cunts are man enough to drop the gloves with him
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What a freakin awesome game to watch - early playoff hockey intensity and skill.
It's very sad the refs had to fuck up the 2nd period with SHIT calls.
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And why the hell wasnt puttin KruchoEurotrashEv on a stretcher the game plan?
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Willie just outta laugh every time he’s out there. None of those cunts are man enough to drop the gloves with him
My money says he attacks one if we are on the short end of the score at the end, and maybe even if we're not.
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It's very sad the refs had to fuck up the 2nd period with SHIT calls.
Sad, yes, but it was Rooney, so hardly unexpected. :poop:
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It's very sad the refs had to fuck up the 2nd period with SHIT calls.
They've tried to unfuck it plenty.. Our shit PP just sux when Ovie isn't scoring.
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Again, shoulda scratched Bura and played Jaskin tonight
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Well, their showing us how to hold a lead . . .
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fuck yeah!
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(https://galactichub.com/caps/Capitals_mascot-Lightning.png) :B:
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da Bird ties the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That was all Willie!! Way to keep that in and get the puck!
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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DA BIRD !!!!!
:clap:
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Good showing for a team that played last night.
Maybe Kuznetsov is heating up for the playoffs.
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Fly Dirty Bird Fly!!! :lol: lol.. Won the third.. Now time to win the game. :uh-huh:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2LBIFQEr2M
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The skill of the 3-3 for these two teams is ridiculous.
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I'm bloody well wide awake now! :uh-huh:
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https://youtu.be/XsRQQNVZW34 (https://youtu.be/XsRQQNVZW34)
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The skill of the 3-3 for these two teams is ridiculous.
Dorthy Hammel and Brain Boytono would be proud
(Sorry man, I hate 3-3)
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fucking defense
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FUCK!!!!
:O=
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Hedman put the pink bicycle helmet on Orlov
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Only we can have 60 fucking shots on goal and lose.
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Noooo! ! BAh! Humbug!
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I'm gonna need more tv bricks this April
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Hedman put the pink bicycle helmet on Orlov
Orlov was just one of our D that was absolutely atrocious tonight. Carlson sucked, Niskanen sucked, Jensen sucked, Orpik sucked.
Only Kempny was okay but he was hurt for half the game. We can't play like that on D and expect to beat TB.
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Can I say good night now?
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I don't want to hear any complaining about the Caps tonight.
At the rest disadvantage, losing Kempny in the middle of the game, they rained 60 shots on Tampa. Yeah, they still lost, but it was a hell of an effort.
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Pffffft.. They still needed our shit PK and a bounce off a skate. More concerned how long Kempny is gonna be out. Guess we'll see if Juice is up for it.
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If we had any penalty kill and anybody screening Vasilevsky, we win that game 6-1. At least we got a fucking point.
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Can I say good night now?
Night babes! Hope the tooth feels better.. :hearts:
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What a bunch of fucking horseshit. Pretty mad at OV too for putting 11 shots on net and not a single fucking goal. He wasted those grade A chances. He's the only guy with the talent to score big goals consistently and we need him to fucking carry the team on his back sometimes. There's 0 reason he should have ruined that open net chance in the 3rd.
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WTF was Orlov doing? That was a comedy. This game really showed, though, the difference between having a large defense that can't be shoved off the puck and what we have. Hedman, Coburn and Sergachev don't get shoved around like Orlov, Niskanen, Jensen and even Carlson. We'll have a very tough time repeating with this crew, especially if Kempny is hurt badly.
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I don't want to hear any complaining about the Caps tonight.
At the rest disadvantage, losing Kempny in the middle of the game, they rained 60 shots on Tampa. Yeah, they still lost, but it was a hell of an effort.
I don't disagree, but our D is suspect all the time. Guys can't keep carrying the puck in front of the net and turning it over. Against a good team like TB you will get burned. And the PK has to clear pucks when it gets the chance. The third goal was an easy clear they overskated.
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I put this loss squarely on the refs! They should all be fired and the NHL should hire homeless crack addicts for a better result.
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Night babes! Hope the tooth feels better.. :hearts:
Can't feel a thing... :sick:
:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
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1st Period
07:32 GOAL 20-Eller, assist 62-Hagelin 1-0 WSH
2nd Period
01:19 Lightning PP GOAL Kucherov, assists Stamkos & Hedman 1-1 TIE
02:12 Lightning PP GOAL Stamkos, assist miller 2-1 TBL
06:45 Lightning GOAL Cirelli, assist Joseph 3-1 TBL
10:30 GOAL 62-Hagelin, assist 20-Eller 3-2 TBL
13:40 GOAL PP GOAL 77-Oshie, assists 8-Ovechkin & 74-Carlson 3-3 TIE
15:01 Lightning PP GOAL Kucherov, assists Stamkos & Palat 4-3 TBL
3rd Period
19:07 GOAL 92-Kuznetsov, assists 19-Bäckström & 77-Oshie 4-4 TIE
OT
03:01 GOAL Hedman, assist Gourde 5-4 TBL
FINAL: 5-4 TBL
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What a bunch of fucking horseshit. Pretty mad at OV too for putting 11 shots on net and not a single fucking goal. He wasted those grade A chances. He's the only guy with the talent to score big goals consistently and we need him to fucking carry the team on his back sometimes. There's 0 reason he should have ruined that open net chance in the 3rd.
I will take the blame for the Ovi shit and that dream. Sorry.
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I will take the blame for the Ovi shit and that dream. Sorry.
You gotta quit wearing him out in those fantasies Lil!
:snicker: :uh-huh:
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I don't want to hear any complaining about the Caps tonight.
At the rest disadvantage, losing Kempny in the middle of the game, they rained 60 shots on Tampa. Yeah, they still lost, but it was a hell of an effort.
I'm complaining. About the atrocious overpaid defense.
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Bottom line now that I'm not as pissed:
TB Was
Shots 28 58
Hits 17 34
Faceoffs Won 35 37
If we face them in the playoffs and the stat line looks like this, I like our chances a lot.
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You gotta quit wearing him out in those fantasies Lil!
:snicker: :uh-huh:
Lol! I swear it was a bone fide actual dream. And there was no actual hanky panky, just a little romance. Olde worlde fashioned style... LOL! Did I mention the serial killer???? You didn't want to ask about him? :-|
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Lol! I swear it was a bone fide actual dream. And there was no actual hanky panky, just a little romance. Olde worlde fashioned style... LOL! Did I mention the serial killer? ??? You didn't want to ask about him? :-|
Olde Worlde style??? Did it happen in black and white or sepia? :snicker:
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I don't want to hear any complaining about the Caps tonight.
At the rest disadvantage, losing Kempny in the middle of the game, they rained 60 shots on Tampa. Yeah, they still lost, but it was a hell of an effort.
They lost AND gave up 5 goals, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES FOR THAT AND THERES NO EFFORT IN ALLOWING 5 GOALS!!! Down a D? So what, man up and play extra minutes and play them harder than you normally would and not allow 5 goals instead of crying about it.
But this loss is on Reidon. He simply could not come up with a plan, or have the players execute the game plan to beat them, instead treated it like any other game. THAT is what lead to the shit show tonight, not Kempey getting tossed around like a rag doll.
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Olde Worlde style?ri
3D
Which wasn't funny when the seriel killer turned up...........
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Alan May just called out the shit refereeing and pointed out specifically the dive's not called for embellishment. These dives and penalties cost us the game!
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Alan May just called out the shit refereeing and pointed out specifically the dive's not called for embellishment. These dives and penalties cost us the game!
Maybe I;ll have happy dreams about Alan May next...?.... :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Maybe that'll leave Ovi with enough energy to SCORE A BLOODY GOAL SOMETIME BLOODY SOON!
:-|
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Alan May just called out the shit refereeing and pointed out specifically the dive's not called for embellishment. These dives and penalties cost us the game!
Alan May, :hearts: has done this on a regular basis. Called out the refs, as most of us on here have. We need to bak him , 'cos I think the \nhl is going to try to :-X him at some poiont.
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Gotta admit, Tampa is awesome in the offensive zone. After the first period I thought they were lucky with the way they kept the puck in the zone. By the end of the game I had to admit they were really. really good.
We can beat them in the playoffs if we play a really heavy game and Holtby is on fire.
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Alan May, :hearts: has done this on a regular basis. Called out the refs, as most of us on here have. We need to bak him , 'cos I think the \nhl is going to try to :-X him at some poiont.
It's hard to try and shut him up when the bad calls were so egregious. May even said he thought one of the TBL would get a fine by the league for the dive when Ovie barely brushed his head and he fell to the ice grabbing his head like he was hit with a baseball bat. i would love to see that happen.
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I have to admit, it is tempting to rag on the refs, but I'm getting tired of it.
The other thing I am tired of is our PP. If we had a PP coach that had a brain, he would scrap the slingshot and vary our passing around the horn routine. The whole world knows our setup simply has one focus - to get Ovi the puck. Watch Pittsburgh and Tampa with crisp passing across the ice and its tic-tac- goal. Our PP coach HAS to adjust before the playoffs.
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Alan May just called out the shit refereeing and pointed out specifically the dive's not called for embellishment. These dives and penalties cost us the game!
The piss poor defense lost the game too
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Props to him for having the fucking balls to actually fight. He knows he sucks at fighting, but none of the other fucks on our team are going to even bother.
This is how a Euro-nonfigjtef handles himself, against a 6’3” player with a few fights under his belt
https://youtu.be/8BtcrFmF650 (https://youtu.be/8BtcrFmF650)
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I thought we played well. We made a few mistakes and at times we seemed incapable of passing a puck or clearing a puck, but the defense held a powerful offense to 4 goals in regulation and three of those goals were after penalties only one of which MIGHT have been a reasonable call. The other two were not even questionable; they were brutally wrong. We outplayed them in many ways and if not for the poor calls I say we'd have won.
Like Alan May you have to call out the refs when they blow it, and tonight they blew it.
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They lost AND gave up 5 goals, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES FOR THAT AND THERES NO EFFORT IN ALLOWING 5 GOALS!!! Down a D? So what, man up and play extra minutes and play them harder than you normally would and not allow 5 goals instead of crying about it.
But this loss is on Reidon. He simply could not come up with a plan, or have the players execute the game plan to beat them, instead treated it like any other game. THAT is what lead to the shit show tonight, not Kempey getting tossed around like a rag doll.
Pardon my French, but this is baloney. The Caps came out (how much was Reirden, how much was the players putting their nose to the grindstone I can't say, of course) with a plan that was fundamentally different from what they traditionally do. Their (reported) hitting was more than it's been in virtually all games this year. They put basically a shot a minute on goal. That IS more than they've done all season and probably top 10 in their history, and contrary to their philosophy of setting up to get the best possible shot at the expense. They came out with gusto against a team that has been on fire all year, when they were in the back half of a back-to-back and Tampa wasn't. To say that this team gave "no effort" in allowing 5 goals is NONSENSE!!! Pure and utter NONSENSE!!! There's no crying in hockey. The team DID man up and the top 3 D all played extra minutes, with Kempny out and Orpik/Jensen not playin all that much. Where's your evidence of crying??? Sometimes the result isn't what you want, but stop ragging on these guys for no rational reason. They showed grit in keeping at it until the end, tied it in the last minute, and lost in the OT, which doesn't mean anything for the playoffs anyway because you don't see 3-3 then. Please quit trying to shoehorn what actually happened on the ice into your distorted view of reality.
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Pardon my French, but this is baloney. The Caps came out (how much was Reirden, how much was the players putting their nose to the grindstone I can't say, of course) with a plan that was fundamentally different from what they traditionally do. Their (reported) hitting was more than it's been in virtually all games this year. They put basically a shot a minute on goal. That IS more than they've done all season and probably top 10 in their history, and contrary to their philosophy of setting up to get the best possible shot at the expense. They came out with gusto against a team that has been on fire all year, when they were in the back half of a back-to-back and Tampa wasn't. To say that this team gave "no effort" in allowing 5 goals is NONSENSE!!! Pure and utter NONSENSE!!! There's no crying in hockey. The team DID man up and the top 3 D all played extra minutes, with Kempny out and Orpik/Jensen not playin all that much. Where's your evidence of crying??? Sometimes the result isn't what you want, but stop ragging on these guys for no rational reason. They showed grit in keeping at it until the end, tied it in the last minute, and lost in the OT, which doesn't mean anything for the playoffs anyway because you don't see 3-3 then. Please quit trying to shoehorn what actually happened on the ice into your distorted view of reality.
Great post Blackice. Couldn’t agree more. Caps set a franchise record with 58 SOG. if you want to look for a reason we lost the game it was special teams. TB was 3 for 3 on the PP and we were 1 for 6. Have to do better, our PK was doing so well lately that this was disappointing. We had so many opportunities to clear the puck and we failed. Great game though to watch.
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Caps outplayed them for most of the game. I was happy with the effort. Some bad calls (which happens) and a couple lucky bounces were the difference. It happens.
What I do feel good about is the Caps were the better team last night. They put forth the effort. They hit, they hustled, they did NOT quit when it was 3-1 and I thought it was over. They battled, and played really well against the very best team there is.
Yes PK could have been better, but Tampa is Really Really good, and give them 3 PP goals and that's the game. Plus one of those was just a bad bounce off Carlson's foot and another was lucky bounce right to a guy's stick. I was pissed cause we DID have a chance to clear the puck multiple times and failed. We did commit some turnovers that hemmed us in, but Tampa is the best team in hockey so they will make you pay for those little moments of failure.
The Caps outplayed the best team in hockey. Not the end result we wanted, but you can't be unhappy with the overall effort. That level of effort will win 75% of games.
Their goalie was excellent. He and the bad calls and bounces were the difference.
Take away one or two of the BS penalties (which WON'T be called in a playoff series) and the Caps win this game
I'll trade our 6 PP chances to their 3. We beat them at 5 on 5 (last night)
What this game showed me was that the Caps can compete with Tampa which I really did not think we could. Can they do so enough to win a 7 game series? I sure hope we get the chance to find out.
Any word on Kempny? I never saw anything that would cause a leg injury - unless it was some falling on him after the scrum
Anyway, good game by the Caps overall.
Go Caps
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Two comments:
(1) I wasn't around for most of last night's game because of a church commitment. Didn't realize that 58 shots was a franchise record, but I guess in retrospect I'm not surprised.
(2) In the playoff/Division race, don't sleep on Carolina. They are 7 points behind us, with two games in hand. Their next two games are our leftovers -- they play Tampa tonight and Minnesota Saturday, both games the 2nd of road back-to-backs for those teams with Carolina sitting at home, having not having played the night before. Then comes the home-and-home we have with them next week, and after that they have a seemingly easier road to the end than we do ("seemingly" because any team can beat any other on a given night.) In point of fact, Carolina DOES have an outside, but legitimate path to the Metro title.
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Any word on Kempny? I never saw anything that would cause a leg injury - unless it was some falling on him after the scrum
Rierden said "He's going to miss some time" He needed a break anyway.. Hopefully it's not a months type injury and is only a weeks type..
(2) In the playoff/Division race, don't sleep on Carolina. In point of fact, Carolina DOES have an outside, but legitimate path to the Metro title.
I couldn't care less if we win the division or have an extra home playoff game.. Didn't need it last year, wasted it in years past and our home record this year isn't anything to be excited about.
This is how a Euro-nonfigjtef handles himself, against a 6’3” player with a few fights under his belt
His pussy ass didn't really wait till he was 30 to have his first fight did he?? :snicker: Give the kid a break.. So he got a bloody nose! So what!! At least he dropped the gloves.. Something you should build off instead of repeatedly pissing on him.. :uh-huh:
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Pardon my French, but this is baloney. The Caps came out (how much was Reirden, how much was the players putting their nose to the grindstone I can't say, of course) with a plan that was fundamentally different from what they traditionally do. Their (reported) hitting was more than it's been in virtually all games this year. They put basically a shot a minute on goal. That IS more than they've done all season and probably top 10 in their history, and contrary to their philosophy of setting up to get the best possible shot at the expense. They came out with gusto against a team that has been on fire all year, when they were in the back half of a back-to-back and Tampa wasn't. To say that this team gave "no effort" in allowing 5 goals is NONSENSE!!! Pure and utter NONSENSE!!! There's no crying in hockey. The team DID man up and the top 3 D all played extra minutes, with Kempny out and Orpik/Jensen not playin all that much. Where's your evidence of crying??? Sometimes the result isn't what you want, but stop ragging on these guys for no rational reason. They showed grit in keeping at it until the end, tied it in the last minute, and lost in the OT, which doesn't mean anything for the playoffs anyway because you don't see 3-3 then. Please quit trying to shoehorn what actually happened on the ice into your distorted
view of reality.
Like hell it is baloney! What’s baloney, no bullshit, giving this team and coach praise for allowing 5 goals because you are entertained by woman’s rules hockey, not to mention your, though amusing, is your continued attempts to challenge and disgrace me.
You do NOT know what you’re talking about when it comes to this sport, you only think and act like you do. You simply know your entertainment, and refuse to learn thing one hear because ya like to think you’re smartest person on here which is the only “distorted view of reality”
But hey, I’ll continue to lecture you, and give two examples, of which you should of already learned on here by now, of how this loss was on Reidon. So you pointed out that despite being down a D, Jensen and Orpik played 11:32, and 12:00 respectively while Orlov, know for mistakes, played 24:54 and committed 3 turnovers, allowed the GWG in OT, and should be praised for his effort. Now while in today’s Woman’s Hockey League it’s generally common when trailing to sit your defensive pair when trailing, being down a D can, and in a one goal game, (which indicates a possibility of pulling a goalie and a possible 3 on 3), and in a good position in the standings with the playoffs coming up shortly, can should and will change that. Now Hooks is aging, not particularly fast, and isn’t an offensive juggernaut, but is not completely useless in this case, yet instead of adjusting personnel and play calls, crossed of Kempys name and put Orlovs name in twice resulting in 25 min of ice time.
A second, though not the last,example is Kuzy. The best move Reidon did was swap Kuzy and Nick that kept Kuzy away from Stamkos and Now this will come as a surprise, but that is a terrible match up as aside from pretty skating and the occasional pretty passes, Stamkos is superior in every aspect. Let’s not forget Kucherev(?sp who cares), is also on that line. So good on Reidon for daring to change his line up card. However, Kuzy was again 33% on face offs, yet continues to take them. Believe it or not, there is a way to work around this, here’s how and the evidemce: You may not of heard of Dave Steckel, but when he was here he was an elite face off expert. What BB would do is send him out for the faceoff, after which he would head to the bench and the center he took the faceoff for would come on. This one person change is low risk as you more than likely as you typically have possession, if not you have a better defensive player on the ice until you do. BB, Hunter, Oates, and Trorz all did this with Steckel and/or Beagle. They even would have the Brouwer or Ward just take the faceoff regardless of what dot there on. So, why not do that with Dowd (75% last game), Stevenson or Boyd? No they aren’t even close to Steckel or Beagle, but they sure as hell better than Kuzy.
These two examples not only apply to the last game, but illustrate two examples of how Reidon fails to adjust (aka treating every game like any other game). Now Reidon is an NHL coach and ive said noyjknv hr hasn’t seen before. But these and other examples imply some combination of his over-confidence in his system, inability to get the players to execute adjustments, or just following orders.
Yes the players are on the ice, and score or allow the goals. But like any other team sport, the real war is between the coaches. Now you can “get by” and win some with weapons and some luck, but not for long.
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Blah. Can't go 0 for 3 on the PK and expect to win. There were some high points, some low. Bottom line, I think this game should show that Tampa is not invincible. Gotta have better effort on the PK.
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I have to admit, it is tempting to rag on the refs, but I'm getting tired of it.
The officiating was the typical crap last night, but that wasn't the reason the Caps lost. In an overall very good game, there were some serious defense lapses. That is what lost the game.
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Blah. Can't go 0 for 3 on the PK and expect to win. There were some high points, some low. Bottom line, I think this game should show that Tampa is not invincible. Gotta have better effort on the PK.
Granted, this roster wasn’t built with the PK being a priority, but that isn’t the only reason the PK is pathetic. With almost a whole season of ingame experience, scouting and video review, it’s pretty damn clear teams have learned how to score on our PK.
Reidon and his staff need to go to back to the white board and come up with a better PK scheme before this gets any worse
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Granted, this roster wasn’t built with the PK being a priority, but that isn’t the only reason the PK is pathetic. With almost a whole season of ingame experience, scouting and video review, it’s pretty damn clear teams have learned how to score on our PK.
Reidon and his staff need to go to back to the white board and come up with a better PK scheme before this gets any worse
I'm fine with it not being a priority, you can't have everything. However, you have to be able to at least occasionally kill a penalty against a top flight unit like Tampa. I agree they need to do something with this god awful unit.
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Like hell it is baloney! What’s baloney, no bullshit, giving this team and coach praise for allowing 5 goals because you are entertained by woman’s rules hockey, not to mention your, though amusing, is your continued attempts to challenge and disgrace me.
You do NOT know what you’re talking about when it comes to this sport, you only think and act like you do. You simply know your entertainment, and refuse to learn thing one hear because ya like to think you’re smartest person on here which is the only “distorted view of reality”
But hey, I’ll continue to lecture you, and give two examples, of which you should of already learned on here by now, of how this loss was on Reidon. So you pointed out that despite being down a D, Jensen and Orpik played 11:32, and 12:00 respectively while Orlov, know for mistakes, played 24:54 and committed 3 turnovers, allowed the GWG in OT, and should be praised for his effort. Now while in today’s Woman’s Hockey League it’s generally common when trailing to sit your defensive pair when trailing, being down a D can, and in a one goal game, (which indicates a possibility of pulling a goalie and a possible 3 on 3), and in a good position in the standings with the playoffs coming up shortly, can should and will change that. Now Hooks is aging, not particularly fast, and isn’t an offensive juggernaut, but is not completely useless in this case, yet instead of adjusting personnel and play calls, crossed of Kempys name and put Orlovs name in twice resulting in 25 min of ice time.
A second, though not the last,example is Kuzy. The best move Reidon did was swap Kuzy and Nick that kept Kuzy away from Stamkos and Now this will come as a surprise, but that is a terrible match up as aside from pretty skating and the occasional pretty passes, Stamkos is superior in every aspect. Let’s not forget Kucherev(?sp who cares), is also on that line. So good on Reidon for daring to change his line up card. However, Kuzy was again 33% on face offs, yet continues to take them. Believe it or not, there is a way to work around this, here’s how and the evidemce: You may not of heard of Dave Steckel, but when he was here he was an elite face off expert. What BB would do is send him out for the faceoff, after which he would head to the bench and the center he took the faceoff for would come on. This one person change is low risk as you more than likely as you typically have possession, if not you have a better defensive player on the ice until you do. BB, Hunter, Oates, and Trorz all did this with Steckel and/or Beagle. They even would have the Brouwer or Ward just take the faceoff regardless of what dot there on. So, why not do that with Dowd (75% last game), Stevenson or Boyd? No they aren’t even close to Steckel or Beagle, but they sure as hell better than Kuzy.
These two examples not only apply to the last game, but illustrate two examples of how Reidon fails to adjust (aka treating every game like any other game). Now Reidon is an NHL coach and ive said noyjknv hr hasn’t seen before. But these and other examples imply some combination of his over-confidence in his system, inability to get the players to execute adjustments, or just following orders.
Yes the players are on the ice, and score or allow the goals. But like any other team sport, the real war is between the coaches. Now you can “get by” and win some with weapons and some luck, but not for long.
If you want to see someone who won't learn anything and doesn't know what he thinks he knows, there is a mirror on the wall over there.
Now I wonder why Reirden didn't play Orpik more? Could it be because, since he is slow, he simply can't handle Tampa's top lines consistently, so his exposure has to be limited? Frankly, after Kempny was lost, I bet if anything Reirden was sorry he hadn't started Djoos rather than Orpik as the 3rd LHD. Djoos can't move people, but he might be able to keep up with the waterbugs a little better.
Yeah, I've never hear of David Steckel. Right. My first Caps jersey was Steckel's -- he was my favorite player in the time he was here, though he was one of those soft players you don't seem to like. Sure, I remember seeing Steckel take the important face-offs and get off the ice, just like Beagle did in the past few years. I suspect the Caps would do that if they had someone they could depend on consistently in the face-off dot. But they don't. C'mon - you chide about overreaching on stats. One game of face-offs isn't a reliable stat for Dowd. Face-off stats bounce around from game to game for a lot of guys.
You really ought to get off your high horse and realize there are other opinions besides yours.
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If you want to see someone who won't learn anything and doesn't know what he thinks he knows, there is a mirror on the wall over there.
Sorry, was I a bit over your head, or dead right about you? Don’t worry, you, me and plenty others know I was both. You’re response by simply maintaining your weak and failed personal assaults on me instead of addressing the points I provided just provides all the “evidence” needed to prove that.
Heh fell for the Steckel trap.
But, looks like 33% faceoffs is reliable in your mind. Dowd is also at 50 (which looks great on this team), and was 75% that game. So what does 75% tell you, a luckey day? Or is he winning because he’s figured out the opposition? Keep in mind all TBLs centers are over 50% this year. So parade a <40% faceoff winner out against one of four centers who are ovet 50% because no one else is reliable?
Yeah. Hooks is slow, I said that. So what? You can’t start him on the D zone? Can’t quick change him? Can’t figure out something that won’t expose a mistake prone D for over 20min by double shifting him? Why?
I said that this loss was mainly on Reidon and his unwillingness, or inability to adjust to anything that isn’t just another game. All you did was justifiy and apologize for it:
One game of 75% isn’t reliable for a 50% season long percentage, so its pointless to swap him in for a center that’s <40% for both that game and year.
And Hooks is slow, so it’s right to leave him on the bench whole exposing and overworking a mistake prone D
Your opinion” is this team the greatest and Reidon can do little no wrong because that’s just “today’s NHL”. But hey, it’s easier and more entertaining than being logical, objective, and analytical.
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🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, was I a bit over your head, or dead right about you? Don’t worry, you, me and plenty others know I was both. You’re response by simply maintaining your weak and failed personal assaults on me instead of addressing the points I provided just provides all the “evidence” needed to prove that.
All right -- try this. When did you see Steckel or Beagle take the ice specifically for a face-off late in the game? Generally it was when the team was protecting a lead, or maybe tied. Kuznetsov was taking face-offs late in the game because THE CAPS WERE BEHIND. In that circumstance you don't put a 4th line guy out there for the face-off and hope you can find a chance to get him off the ice; you go with the offensive guy. There of course is another reason why Dowd wouldn't take face-offs in place of Kuzy, and that is because Kuzy generally takes face-offs where you want a LH in the dot, which by the way is on the far side of the ice from the bench, and more difficult to get a change. Dowd is RH. Now Stephenson could then be used in place of Kuzy because he is also LH, but I don't think Reirden trusts Stephenson to do much of anything. He has shown very little this season.
Frankly, I'd like to hear what others think about your and my reasoning and thoughtfulness in understanding the nuances of the game. I personally know NOTHING of what you say I know regarding your and my takes on the game.
And where have I ever said that this team is "the greatest?" You're putting words in my mouth that I've never said. I've pointed out both strengths and weaknesses of this team. You seem fixated on what this team can't do in your opinion, and say almost nothing about what they can do.
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All right -- try this. When did you see Steckel or Beagle take the ice specifically for a face-off late in the game? Generally it was when the team was protecting a lead, or maybe tied. Kuznetsov was taking face-offs late in the game because THE CAPS WERE BEHIND. In that circumstance you don't put a 4th line guy out there for the face-off and hope you can find a chance to get him off the ice; you go with the offensive guy. There of course is another reason why Dowd wouldn't take face-offs in place of Kuzy, and that is because Kuzy generally takes face-offs where you want a LH in the dot, which by the way is on the far side of the ice from the bench, and more difficult to get a change. Dowd is RH. Now Stephenson could then be used in place of Kuzy because he is also LH, but I don't think Reirden trusts Stephenson to do much of anything. He has shown very little this season.
Frankly, I'd like to hear what others think about your and my reasoning and thoughtfulness in understanding the nuances of the game. I personally know NOTHING of what you say I know regarding your and my takes on the game.
And where have I ever said that this team is "the greatest?" You're putting words in my mouth that I've never said. I've pointed out both strengths and weaknesses of this team. You seem fixated on what this team can't do in your opinion, and say almost nothing about what they can do.
what the hell ever man.. Now that bullshit up there, while humorous is “just balonety”.
So, your advocating to keeping a 30% face winner because the other guy is a “4th liner”, they’re trailing, and the face off dot. All of which completely justifies loosing 60% of faceoffs because these things are law in “Today’s NHL”, and no one can work around them.
Great analysis and understanding of the game there pal! We don’t need faceoffs, we have Kuzy right?
I also didn’t put words in your mouth. You have shown to be a just a hero worshiping zzealot, You only echos weakness that are brought up by others and tries to sell it anc lecture it as his own “expertice”. Faceoffs and are a problem, well no shot!!!
Look at this thread! You praised the “effort”, acknowledged the PK sucks, and defended Reirdon in a 5-4 loss,
So, I gave you only two examples of possibilities Reirdon could have done to increase the chances of winning, or helped to lose. So what, with your vast knowledge of nuances , did you see that he could of done differently?
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Longtime listener, first-time caller.
Blackice is right about the faceoff issue. The Steckel/Beagle point is moot because we don't have a faceoff specialist anymore. There isn't anyone we can use (especially LH) to utilize the tactic you're describing. Sheltering Kuznetsov's deployments isn't much of an option, and the only worthwhile wings we have in our top 6 that can reasonably help with faceoffs are both right-handed. So this was an odd point to bring up as a criticism of Reirden.
The Orpik vs. Orlov point is a lesser of two evils thing. With Kempny hurt, Orlov is our best LD. Unfortunately he's also all the things that DC says he is, which makes the loss of Kempny that much worse. What this amounts to would typically be a reason to NOT shelter your 3rd pair if they can play. Jensen has been solid since his arrival and the chemistry with Orpik isn't terrible. With Kempny out we need that pair to eat more minutes.
Tampa is a bad metric to make that kind of choice. If this continues versus lesser teams, I'd consider shuffling the pairs if it'd help Reirden distribute minutes better.
Getting edged out in OT by the best team in the league isn't terrible. The PP goals sank us, and refs swallow their whistles in the playoffs, so I'm not that concerned. I think we can hang with them at evens. Dialing up the physical play without taking penalties would be key.
I'm not wild about Reirden's coaching this year either, but Tampa is a bitch to match up with for any team.
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Longtime listener, first-time caller.
Blackice is right about the faceoff issue. The Steckel/Beagle point is moot because we don't have a faceoff specialist anymore. There isn't anyone we can use (especially LH) to utilize the tactic you're describing. Sheltering Kuznetsov's deployments isn't much of an option, and the only worthwhile wings we have in our top 6 that can reasonably help with faceoffs are both right-handed. So this was an odd point to bring up as a criticism of Reirden.
The Orpik vs. Orlov point is a lesser of two evils thing. With Kempny hurt, Orlov is our best LD. Unfortunately he's also all the things that DC says he is, which makes the loss of Kempny that much worse. What this amounts to would typically be a reason to NOT shelter your 3rd pair if they can play. Jensen has been solid since his arrival and the chemistry with Orpik isn't terrible. With Kempny out we need that pair to eat more minutes.
Tampa is a bad metric to make that kind of choice. If this continues versus lesser teams, I'd consider shuffling the pairs if it'd help Reirden distribute minutes better.
Getting edged out in OT by the best team in the league isn't terrible. The PP goals sank us, and refs swallow their whistles in the playoffs, so I'm not that concerned. I think we can hang with them at evens. Dialing up the physical play without taking penalties would be key.
I'm not wild about Reirden's coaching this year either, but Tampa is a bitch to match up with for any team.
Fair enogh, but I’m not suggesting swaping a faceoff for Backstrom or even Eller, but for a center that is under 40% not only for a routine basis, but for a season and career.
What’s better a 60-70% chance of loosing on the correct side, or a 50, even 40% chance of loosing on the wrong or unconventional side?
I’d completely agree with you almost all of time. But when a center who takes a large amount of your faceoffs, after four years still can’t win 40% of them on a regular bastdwhat else do you thaj putting someone in that that will win 50 or even 40% of them?
Now, given in the game in question they had last change there where some options, ie Wilon did a right hand, Backstrom for a left hand based on the situation. or send someone else that won’t typically loose 70% of time.
In short, after 4-5 years, still fllat out sucks at faceoffs, so I suggest a reasonable why to compensate for it
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I’d completely agree with you almost all of time. But when a center who takes a large amount of your faceoffs, after four years still can’t win 40% of them on a regular bastdwhat else do you thaj putting someone in that that will win 50 or even 40% of them?
Because it makes very little difference. Kuznetsov takes about 14 faceoffs a game. He wins about 5.5 of them on average. Dowd averages 7 out of every 14. So we're talking about 1 or 2 faceoffs per game. Dowd is also a righty, so he's not the ideal guy to sub in for Kuzy regardless.
So when you don't have a faceoff stud on the roster, you address lackluster faceoff numbers by sheltering zone starts, and only then if the difference is glaring. But when the choice is Eller or Backstrom -- guys with only a 10% better chance at winning the draw than Kuzy -- then you just play Kuzy. In the D zone, sure, go with the percentages to prevent direct scoring chances off the draw, but since all of our LH faceoff guys are sub-50% the actual difference is minimal.
There are many other things you can do to mitigate faceoff weaknesses. Guys with known issues often just go for the contest -- just swiping/shoveling at it or stick-checking so they don't lose them cleanly, minimizing direct chances against. Hell, just anticipating losing a draw is often preparation enough.
In other words, faceoffs aren't the end of the world. It's a good thing to be good at, but it's rarely crucial.
If you're losing because of 1.5 faceoffs per game, you have much bigger problems.
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Because it makes very little difference. Kuznetsov takes about 14 faceoffs a game. He wins about 5.5 of them on average. Dowd averages 7 out of every 14. So we're talking about 1 or 2 faceoffs per game. Dowd is also a righty, so he's not the ideal guy to sub in for Kuzy regardless.
So when you don't have a faceoff stud on the roster, you address lackluster faceoff numbers by sheltering zone starts, and only then if the difference is glaring. But when the choice is Eller or Backstrom -- guys with only a 10% better chance at winning the draw than Kuzy -- then you just play Kuzy. In the D zone, sure, go with the percentages to prevent direct scoring chances off the draw, but since all of our LH faceoff guys are sub-50% the actual difference is minimal.
There are many other things you can do to mitigate faceoff weaknesses. Guys with known issues often just go for the contest -- just swiping/shoveling at it or stick-checking so they don't lose them cleanly, minimizing direct chances against. Hell, just anticipating losing a draw is often preparation enough.
In other words, faceoffs aren't the end of the world. It's a good thing to be good at, but it's rarely crucial.
If you're losing because of 1.5 fachoeoffs per game, you have much bigger problems.
Again, correc and I agree. Generally speaking, it isn’t that big of a deal early in or over the course of the regular season. Particularly, with the stupid new rules they put in.
However, the game in queston maybe an exception. As we know, we gave up four goals in one period, they shut us down from midway in the second to the very end of the third where lost in OT, while being down a D. Granted by team we edged them on faceoffs, Kuzy was getting throttled by TBL. He took the most faceoffs on the team that game went 5 for 15 over all, doing good in the offensive zone going 3 for 7 in the offensive zone, 2 for 5 in the Nutral Zone, and 0 for 3 in the defensive zone. When you factor in not only the score situation, the plays with some of our top scores and two of our best defensive players, that’s a lot of opportunities handed over to the other team.
We also had the last change, so Reirdon could have easily sent one of the other three centers that where doing better to take faceoffs for him.
Yes, this was not the sole reason for the loss, and most times we can get buy with his abysmal faceoff
percentage, by protecting him by zone etc But when you allow five goals and get shut down for most of the game, the center taking the most faceoffs was only wins 5 of 15 is a bigger factor in the loss than it normally would be.
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But again, everyone else is dodgy at faceoffs, too. If you have a guy that's routinely 60%, yes, you might consider a strategic deployment or two. But we don't have that guy. We have guys that are, overall, 10% better than Kuzy.
You can't double-shift Backstrom because you benefit greatly from him getting proper rest AND the matchups you want with him. So your only alternative is Eller, a guy that is just as streaky at the dot. You're also surrendering your matchup selection with Kuznetsov, easily one of your most dangerous forwards -- all for a 10% better chance at winning one faceoff. That's not a good idea.
You're overestimating the importance of faceoffs. 0% on the PK, 16% on the PP. That's what did us in. Kuzy being brutal at the dot was a non-issue because of how they managed his deployment. We dominated at evens, took only 3 penalties, had twice as many hits, twice as many shots, and won as many faceoffs as could be expected.
0-for-3 on the PK. 1-for-6 on the man advantage. That was the ballgame.
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Longtime listener, first-time caller.
Blackice is right about the faceoff issue. The Steckel/Beagle point is moot because we don't have a faceoff specialist anymore. There isn't anyone we can use (especially LH) to utilize the tactic you're describing. Sheltering Kuznetsov's deployments isn't much of an option, and the only worthwhile wings we have in our top 6 that can reasonably help with faceoffs are both right-handed. So this was an odd point to bring up as a criticism of Reirden.
The Orpik vs. Orlov point is a lesser of two evils thing. With Kempny hurt, Orlov is our best LD. Unfortunately he's also all the things that DC says he is, which makes the loss of Kempny that much worse. What this amounts to would typically be a reason to NOT shelter your 3rd pair if they can play. Jensen has been solid since his arrival and the chemistry with Orpik isn't terrible. With Kempny out we need that pair to eat more minutes.
Tampa is a bad metric to make that kind of choice. If this continues versus lesser teams, I'd consider shuffling the pairs if it'd help Reirden distribute minutes better.
Getting edged out in OT by the best team in the league isn't terrible. The PP goals sank us, and refs swallow their whistles in the playoffs, so I'm not that concerned. I think we can hang with them at evens. Dialing up the physical play without taking penalties would be key.
I'm not wild about Reirden's coaching this year either, but Tampa is a bitch to match up with for any team.
Wow!And welcome. ;D
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But again, everyone else is dodgy at faceoffs, too. If you have a guy that's routinely 60%, yes, you might consider a strategic deployment or two. But we don't have that guy. We have guys that are, overall, 10% better than Kuzy.
You can't double-shift Backstrom because you benefit greatly from him getting proper rest AND the matchups you want with him. So your only alternative is Eller, a guy that is just as streaky at the dot. You're also surrendering your matchup selection with Kuznetsov, easily one of your most dangerous forwards -- all for a 10% better chance at winning one faceoff. That's not a good idea.
You're overestimating the importance of faceoffs. 0% on the PK, 16% on the PP. That's what did us in. Kuzy being brutal at the dot was a non-issue because of how they managed his deployment. We dominated at evens, took only 3 penalties, had twice as many hits, twice as many shots, and won as many faceoffs as could be expected.
0-for-3 on the PK. 1-for-6 on the man advantage. That was the ballgame.
Sure, but (now I don’t have the exact stats I’m front of me), there is easily a correlation between the Kuzys faceoffs and the 1-6 PP. I also don’t have the exact data in front of me, but loosing faceoffs on the PowerPlay, eats into the two minutes you have. So, in the case of the Power Play our faceoffs become greatly more important than even strength, Now, when your power playis working and your leadijng, then sure it’s of lesser importance. But if your PP isn’t working, obviously you need every advantage you can get, risk nothing. and don’t just hope for luck.
If you continue to put one of the (maybe the worst), starting center taking faceoffs, who also is a complete defensive liability, when you also have a questionable D, you can typically trace a large amount of the other teams opportunities, failed power plays, or even a goals, a the faceoff loss.
Now yes, a 10-20% improvement only amounts to 2 or 3 faceoff wins, that still is 2 or 3 more opportunities for the other team that could by putting someone else in the dot.
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Kuzy rarely takes faceoffs on the PP, when the faceoff is in the left faceoff circle Backstrom takes the faceoff and when it is in the right faceoff circle Oshie takes the faceoff so can’t blame Kuzy in this case.