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Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: alta on Thursday March 08, 2018, 04:37:55 PM Eastern
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March 8 vs. Los Angeles Kings at Staples Center
Time: 10:30 p.m.
TV: NBC Sports Washington
Radio: FAN 106.7, Capitals Radio 24/7
Washington Capitals 37-22-7
Los Angeles Kings 36-25-5
REFEREES
Trevor Hanson #14, Gord Dwyer #19
LINESMEN
Mark Wheler #56, Lonnie Cameron #74
anticipated lines:
FOREWARDS
Ovechkin 8 -Backstrom 19 - Wilson 43
Vrana 13 -Kuznetsov 92 -Oshie 77
Connolly 10 -Eller 20 -Burakovsky 65
DSP 25 -Beagle 83 -Chiasson 39
DEFENSEMEN
Kempny 6 -Carlson 74
Orlov 9 -Niskanen 2
Orpik 44 -Jerabek 28
GOALIES
Grubauer 31 -starter
Holtby 70
links to pregame so this post is of reasonable size
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-face-kings-in-la-on-thursday/c-296734600 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-face-kings-in-la-on-thursday/c-296734600)
https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/03/08/caps-kings-pregame-la-state-mind/#more-149098 (https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/03/08/caps-kings-pregame-la-state-mind/#more-149098)
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I’m just expecting to see Grubauer in net!
Don’t have any other expectations from the team tonight.
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Brent's take on Holtby...
https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/03/08/former-nhl-goaltender-brent-johnson-shares-fascinating-perspective-braden-holtbys-recent-struggles/ (https://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/03/08/former-nhl-goaltender-brent-johnson-shares-fascinating-perspective-braden-holtbys-recent-struggles/)
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Pretty stellar take on Holtby by Brent imo. I wondered it myself as Holtby was playing a high number of games the last few seasons, I earnsetly would be okay with us resting Holtby here for weeks. Let his practice game get up, but don't treat him like the ugly stepchild. Don't let this erode his confidence. The coaching staff has to show him they have faith in him, and he's the one we want to start in the playoffs. I think if we play Gruby more down the stretch, and let Holtby recharge he could be much better the playoffs.
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I found Brent’s comments on Holtby to be fascinating and I wonder if Holtby’s subpar performance in last season’s playoff series against the Penguins was because he was fatigued. Holtby’s subpar play in that series was IMO one of the major reasons the Caps lost that series. I am wondering if the reason for his play was because of the workload he had during the season and he was just exhausted if not physically, mentally. Resting Holtby now prior to the playoffs this year could help him remain fresh in the playoffs this season. Of course he needs to get back his A game which I think he will.
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I found Brent’s comments on Holtby to be fascinating and I wonder if Holtby’s subpar performance in last season’s playoff series against the Penguins was because he was fatigued. Holtby’s subpar play in that series was IMO one of the major reasons the Caps lost that series. I am wondering if the reason for his play was because of the workload he had during the season and he was just exhausted if not physically, mentally. Resting Holtby now prior to the playoffs this year could help him remain fresh in the playoffs this season. Of course he needs to get back his A game which I think he will.
I agree that he could be suffering from fatique. Especially now that the defense in front if him isn't as good as it once was. I dont think the problem is the number of games he has played but the amount if energy he has used during those games. In past seasons he has had several easy games where he didnt even break a sweat. I can't think of one easy game for Holtby this year.
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I agree that he could be suffering from fatique. Especially now that the defense in front if him isn't as good as it once was. I dont think the problem is the number of games he has played but the amount if energy he has used during those games. In past seasons he has had several easy games where he didnt even break a sweat. I can't think of one easy game for Holtby this year.
Yep. He has to be asked to do more than any goalie in the league. This adds up to result in less hightlight reel saves and more beach balls going through.
The signs of him mentally checking out do to frustration, mental & physical exhaustion are apparent, and I wouldn’t put high odds on him coming back at, none the less maintaing playing at the historic level this team needs him to be,
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Maybe two or three seasons ago Holts said in an interview he prefers to play every game, I don’t remember the exact quote but he said everyone else plays every game so he should too. I wonder if he’s changed his mind on that. The only thing I could compare him to is a baseball catcher who’s always stressing his knees and quads
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For me,the difference between top goaltender and good is no matter what’s going on with team performance,psychology problems,offense,defense struggling the goalie is always shows his skills performance and helps the team.Of course, some people might argue it’s unreal to be all the time in same conditions ,however conceding every match 3+ goals it’s ridiculous.
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Hello my friends!
I'm looking forward to a strong game from the Caps and the beginning of their gelling :cross:
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Craig Laughlin - "that’s a good sign for the Caps" - do you ever wonder what games he is watching?
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Craig Laughlin - "that’s a good sign for the Caps" - do you ever wonder what games he is watching?
Ya,that was amazing :rofl:
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Craig Laughlin - "that’s a good sign for the Caps" - do you ever wonder what games he is watching?
Hehe. All these commentators blow excessive smoke to drive up ticket sales. It does get a bit annoying when it's so incongruent with the facts. ::)
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what does the Pope do in the woods?
Holy crap they aren't losing yet
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With Grubauer in tonight we can hope for good result :cross:
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How did Johnny Quaalude miss that wide open net? :O=
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a player smarter than Dylan would've scored there
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good thing Holts isn't in or everyone would be saying he shoulda had that
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Excellent pass by Oshie!
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Well, at least they held off for 15 min
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Fuck you Oshie... All day to clear and you turn it over. Shit on offense and shit on defense. We're stuck with him for 8 fucking years. Signed the contract and forgot how to play
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Excellent pass by Oshie!
God does Oshie suck! He’s a fucking turnover machine who can’t score.
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Wilson is a beast. He alone is worth watching - of late, he’s been all that’s worth watching.
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Fuck you Oshie... All day to clear and you turn it over. Shit on offense and shit on defense. We're stuck with him for 8 fucking years. Signed the contract and forgot how to play
THIS!
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Fuck you Oshie... All day to clear and you turn it over. Shit on offense and shit on defense. We're stuck with him for 8 fucking years. Signed the contract and forgot how to play
He gets $70k every game whether they win or lose. I think there should be performance incentives in these contracts.
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Damn, and these guys are only in 4th?
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a player smarter than Dylan would've scored there
Get real
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"Carlson shoots wide.."
"And Carlson shoots wide.."
"Carlson shoots just wide.."
Hell, I can do Joe B.’s job.
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Get real
what are you sucking?
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So what's this, 5 straight periods without a goal?
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4 periods out west. No goals. Nice.
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last season I said 77, but this year 43 is the only one who has truly deserved the C
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Get real
Hell, I could have made that goal. That's real! That was a horrible miss.
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what are you sucking?
What's your problem?
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So what's this, 5 straight periods without a goal?
consistency
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What's your problem?
there it is again
WTF
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Hell, I could have made that goal. That's real! That was a horrible miss.
That stuff happens every game. Ya he probably should have scored, so what. No one says anything when Ovi misses a wide open net. It happens quite a bit
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What's your problem?
I gonna guess it's the blind love and delusion. ::)
I still love you though. :hearts:
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there it is again
WTF
Wtf is your problem? Wtf was that comment about?
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I'm not in the mood for any bs tonight.
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God does Oshie suck! He’s a fucking turnover machine who can’t score.
But he’s part of the core of the Next Generation!!
>:(
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But he’s part of the core of the Next Generation!!
>:(
I think the Caps blew it with Oshie. I thought he overachieved last season.
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Morning all.
Couldn't sleep. Maybe this game will help? :raspberry:
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I think the Caps blew it with Oshie. I thought he overachieved last season.
Agree,he played last season his best hockey once he got a new contact,he became terrible
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But he’s part of the core of the Next Generation!!
>:(
The Next Generation won’t have THIS asshole as a fan then.
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I'm not in the mood for any bs tonight.
Well then I guess I'll just suck it up and let the BS go in one ear and out the other. :wackysmile:
I must be feeling better! Though it's hard to tell.
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I'm not in the mood for any bs tonight.
No!? Well how was your week? Did you hold your best fried to comfort him while he was put to sleep? Because that's what I did this week. Quite a few people here comment about how poorly Carlson plays but you seem to single out me for contradiction. I'm tempted to delete your ass
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:13z:
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Damnit .... just when I was about to call it a night.... they score and now I gotta stay up.
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Stunning goal!
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Damnit .... just when I was about to call it a night.... they score and now I gotta stay up.
Took the words right out of my keyboard!
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These Kings are fun to watch. . .
Getting scored on will probably just piss em off
Wish to he’ll we played like this
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That was ugly. I hope Willy is OK.
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Hehehe just a little blood, a few stitches and Willie will be right back
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That ones on Grubi.
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Gruby needed to make that save... Ovy is absolutely invisible
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Crystal Koonz is scary..
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Crystal Koonz is scary..
I was thinking the same thing. I will never go near their dealerships.
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Crystal Koonz is scary..
Did her.
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Need a goal on this PP
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Raise your hand if you were waiting for Carlson to put it in our own net on the delayed PP (stupid) drop pass? :wackysmile:
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Did her.
Sorry to hear that. Nasty
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This team ain’t going anywhere.
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Did her.
Is it really a crystal cunz :clown:
OK, I'm really still sick. :sick:
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Did her.
At the End of Model Clearence sale?
;D
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At the End of Model Clearence sale?
;D
:rofl:
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and of course Willy gets 2:00 minutes for standing there, what horse shit
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This team is a pile of shit
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How many power plays do we need to score a goal?!
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FIRE TROTZ.. Send a fucking message. Riordan might be a better choice.. I've had enough of this bullshit style of play. The slingshot is stupid and wastes time, and all teams know they are going to do it. Slow stand around power play, and the same shit every day
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Wow...smh...team stuck on stupid.
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Oh well, that'll about do it. Smells like a 3-1 loss. Maybe I'll be able to stay awake Saturday at 4pm? Prolly not, this team is boring bad..
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Backstrom is almost useless now.. Slow as hell and can't win a faceoff to save his life. He rarely wins a faceoff in the offensive zone. Beagle can't be on the ice for every faceoff
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I see 4 straight west coast losses and a Boston Red Sox free fall.. The season is coming to an end and we have a bunch of players that can't score more than a goal a game. Listening to Locker saying how he lives the way we are playing is asinine. We look like shit
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christ this team sucks, except for Carlson, apparently he is a god
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Fire Trotz!
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LOSERS
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I hope they make 714 and 77 eat a puck for their play in this game.
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Fire Trotz!
I doubt that would make that much of a difference, or for very long. It would only be a punitive, scapegoat, theatrical gesture.
This team has been built on a “star player platform” and the front office allows, if not wants that.
Really, how many times do you think Oviedo been late since he was scratched for being late a few years ago? No way in hell do believe zero.
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14 games and only 8 points away from (very) early golf!! (And Fl with 2 games in the tank) It'll be hard but I think they can do it!! :poop:
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Raise your hand if you were waiting for Carlson to put it in our own net on the delayed PP (stupid) drop pass? :wackysmile:
I cant stand when he turns his back to 2/3 of the ice so that he has no idea where the opposition is when he leaves it for a teammate. He does it in slow motion and looks so clueless. Like he's thinking well sh!t, I don't have the answer how about you... Eventually someone is gonna steal one of those casual passes and score.
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Backstrom is almost useless now.. Slow as hell and can't win a faceoff to save his life. He rarely wins a faceoff in the offensive zone. Beagle can't be on the ice for every faceoff
Agree with you there on Backy. He does look slow and definitely like he does not want the puck on his stick. He looks like he's thinking pass even before he has possession. His turnover to carter right in front of the net (Which Grubby grabbed like a ninja) looked like a certain goal.
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I doubt that would make that much of a difference, or for very long. It would only be a punitive, scapegoat, theatrical gesture.
This team has been built on a “star player platform” and the front office allows, if not wants that.
Really, how many times do you think Oviedo been late since he was scratched for being late a few years ago? No way in hell do believe zero.
Agree,on the other hand the team is struggling with offense,defense,the team doesn’t show any performance in away games,we have lost 3-4 matches to Chicago,Columbus,Ducks without any efforts,how we play in power plays,in addition something wrong with Holtby this season,therefore in my opinion the responsibility of those results is the Trotz,as team right now has psychological problems,struggling with scoring goals and loosing every match and the only way to fix it and shake a team spirit is fire him..
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Agree,on the other hand the team is struggling with offense,defense,the team doesn’t show any performance in away games,we have lost 3-4 matches to Chicago,Columbus,Ducks without any efforts,how we play in power plays,in addition something wrong with Holtby this season,therefore in my opinion the responsibility of those results is the Trotz,as team right now has psychological problems,struggling with scoring goals and loosing every match and the only way to fix it and shake a team spirit is fire him..
But that isn't the only way. We've had like, ten coaches with the majority of this core. Every single time we fired a coach, people cited this same bullshit. "Coach has lost the team, pysche problem." Ovechkin and co are babies. That is the problem. They have zero heart, work ethic or commitment and they lose because they don't have it in them to do better. The going gets tough and they get going. That old adage has always yelled true to this club. But it's okay we'll keep doing the coach swap dance and wonder why it never fixes our problems. Keep on buying the media hype people, what a bunch of garbage.
Meanwhile Trotz, who is a quality NHL coach make no mistake about that, the moment people heard rumors of him maybe getting fired here, he'll have a job in the NHL again in no time. No different than the other coaches we fired who have no issues making other teams better. We are the problem, it's as simple as that.
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But that isn't the only way. We've had like, ten coaches with the majority of this core. Every single time we fired a coach, people cited this same bullshit. "Coach has lost the team, pysche problem." Ovechkin and co are babies. That is the problem. They have zero heart, work ethic or commitment and they lose because they don't have it in them to do better. The going gets tough and they get going. That old adage has always yelled true to this club. But it's okay we'll keep doing the coach swap dance and wonder why it never fixes our problems. Keep on buying the media hype people, what a bunch of garbage.
Meanwhile Trotz, who is a quality NHL coach make no mistake about that, the moment people heard rumors of him maybe getting fired here, he'll have a job in the NHL again in no time. No different than the other coaches we fired who have no issues making other teams better. We are the problem, it's as simple as that.
Some years ago I said multiple times Ted needs to get a couple sports psychiatrists on the payroll, and make talking to them mandatory instead of politely asking a player to stop doing something, which Trotz has done with OV. Also not every coach the Caps fired in the OV era went on to success. I'm willing to bet big money on Oates never being an NHL head coach again
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Some years ago I said multiple times Ted needs to get a couple sports psychiatrists on the payroll, and make talking to them mandatory instead of politely asking a player to stop doing something, which Trotz has done with OV. Also not every coach the Caps fired in the OV era went on to success. I'm willing to bet big money on Oates never being an NHL head coach again
Haha, fair enough. Oates I think is a special circumstances because he was never NHL head coach material anyways. But Trotz will have another job in no time. I'm with you, this club needs something to wake up it's core star players. Ov, Nicky, Carlson, Kuzy, etc. This team has to realize it's make or break time at some point, and that this window of their age and them having any half decent shot at playoff success is closing. It just doesn't seem that way. Maybe they don't care about a Cup, I don't know. None of us are in that room, but as you mentioned there are clearly problems with motivation and psyche.
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I was too tired to watch this game. Sounds like I didnt miss much. This team is terrible right now. Only a couple of guys seem to show up every game. Ovie and Wilson are our best players this season. Everyone else sucks. And yes Alta even Carlson.
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With 1:2 and 10 min to go I was sure that Caps won't score.
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Some years ago I said multiple times Ted needs to get a couple sports psychiatrists on the payroll, and make talking to them mandatory instead of politely asking a player to stop doing something, which Trotz has done with OV. Also not every coach the Caps fired in the OV era went on to success. I'm willing to bet big money on Oates never being an NHL head coach again
I'm not saying Oates is a good coach but I think the reason he isn't coaching is more about the way his tenure here ended rather than his coaching ability. Calling out Ovi didnt go over very well and it got him fired.
Trotz has handled Ovi very well. I'm worried another coach won't be able to handle Ovi.
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I was too tired to watch this game. Sounds like I didnt miss much. This team is terrible right now. Only a couple of guys seem to show up every game. Ovie and Wilson are our best players this season. Everyone else sucks. And yes Alta even Carlson.
Actually Beagles on a record setting face-off tear these past several games . . .
But, he’s casted into the “4th line” mold, regardless of what he does otherwise.
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Actually Beagles on a record setting face-off tear these past several games . . .
But, he’s casted into the “4th line” mold, regardless of what he does otherwise.
Beagle has been great on face offs lately. He is also a hard worker. Unfortunately his skills are limited. He does kill some offensive rushes because of his lack of skill. He also gets quite a few scoring chances for a 4th liner but he is probably the worst forward on the team at finishing, which is why he is on the 4th line. He has struggled a bit in the defensive zone this year too but that is on the whole team.
I have no problem with Beagle but IMO the only thing keeping him in the league is his faceoff ability. Love his work ethic. Wish everyone had his work ethic. I think the only other guy on this team with that kind of work ethic is Wilson.
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I was too tired to watch this game. Sounds like I didnt miss much. This team is terrible right now. Only a couple of guys seem to show up every game. Ovie and Wilson are our best players this season. Everyone else sucks. And yes Alta even Carlson.
Someone hijacked Maako's account?
;D
Sorry, just being a smart ass.