8-Ovechkin | 19-Bäckström | 43-Wilson |
13-Vrana | 92-Kuznetsov | 77-Oshie |
62-Hagelin | 20-Eller | 14-Panik |
28-Leipsic | 26-Dowd | 21-Hathaway |
:spacer50pix: 6-Kempny | 74-Carlson |
:spacer50pix: 9-Orlov | 3-Jensen |
:spacer50pix: 34-Siegenthaler | 33-Gudas |
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby (starter) |
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 30-Samsonov |
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 29-Djoos (upper body) |
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 72-Boyd |
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix: None |
19-Bäckström | 92-Kuznetsov | 77-Oshie |
:spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin | :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson |
13-Vrana | 20-Eller | 43-Wilson |
:spacer50pix: 28-Leipsic/8-Ovechkin | 9-Orlov |
Let's GO CAPS!Cheers!
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Thanks AJ!
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Hello chaps.Cheers Lil! ;)
That top link is great, thanks AJ. 8)
Hi AJ,Yes, that's what I mean. Very curious why it adds the URL as coming from this site. I've played in the code a lot with my posts and have never seen this. Now I'm curious why this site is doing that with some images. Thanks
I locate the image I want to post, right click and open image in a new tab, copy the url of that image.
I then click on the button right below the Bold button, paste.
Is this what you mean?
We’re at brunch tryin to get the game on. . . but it’s Real Mans Great American Football 🇺🇸🤟playoffs (fuck the Vikings!), but we have clout here so we can do it 🤠😁You must be at home then! :snicker: :wackysmile:
You must be at home then! :snicker: :wackysmile:Close enough 🤣 where at our Sunday bar where we all got together a few years back
WTH happened? Stream died! Missed the tying goal.
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So we think Kuzy will be less effective because of the flu and he ends up being taken out by stupidity. :raised-eyebrow:
Nice missed pass to yourself dude!
if the had PKed like that in the 2nd they'd have the lead
Before the game started, I thought this might go to OT.
There's time left. :cross:
The fuck happened?? I turned the damn thing off.. :wackysmile: :huh: :raspberry:
The fuck happened?? I turned the damn thing off.. :wackysmile: :huh: :raspberry:Now you should have learned by now to never give up on the Caps! :uh-huh:
Caps didn't deserve that
I came back to bitch some more about the wingers sucking ass.. Guess I'll catch the highlights on NHLnet.. :-\ We scored 2x with the net empty?? :huh:Yup! Twice in 32 seconds after they got an ENG. Amazing!
Caps didn't deserve that
First time in Caps history that they won a game after being down 2 goals with only one minute left in regulation.
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Caps absolutely did NOT deserve that!
Fantastic OT though. :clap:
it was a nice comeback, but I gotta say, a Norris candidate doesn’t throw the puck over the glass with 5:00 when you’re trying to tie the gameWhen I saw that I cut him a lot of slack. Kane had just grabbed Carlson a split second before and Meier railed him into the boards one millisecond after he released the puck. Kane was hitting him with his stick from behind as he flung the puck and the only reason he let go was because Carlson elbowed him. I'd call it under extreme duress. I actually thought they might not call the penalty because contact had been made between Carlson and Meier almost as the puck left his stick. The question is why he was behind our goal all alone with two Sharks. There were dumber penalties taken by the Caps in this game.
it was a nice comeback, but I gotta say, a Norris candidate doesn’t throw the puck over the glass with 5:00 when you’re trying to tie the game
When I saw that I cut him a lot of slack. Kane had just grabbed Carlson a split second before and Meier railed him into the boards one millisecond after he released the puck. Kane was hitting him with his stick from behind as he flung the puck and the only reason he let go was because Carlson elbowed him. I'd call it under extreme duress. I actually thought they might not call the penalty because contact had been made between Carlson and Meier almost as the puck left his stick. The question is why he was behind our goal all alone with two Sharks. There were dumber penalties taken by the Caps in this game.
I found the game still available on livestream and recorded a couple segments off my screen with my phone. I think it came out pretty good.
Here is the Carlson delay of game penalty.
I'm not going to say he couldn't have done better, but he was under some pressure there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKChU_kQavA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKChU_kQavA)
Carlson doesn't fight (and may even fear that part of it, who knows) but outside of fighting I don't see a reluctance to avoid being physical. He doesn't go out of his way, but have you ever seen the guy get pissed off? He's a big boy and can put your dick in the dirt when he feels necessary.. Does he get pushed around? I don't recall it.. The delay of game? We start picking apart dumb penalties by the Caps and we'll be here a while.. To me anyway, he's made leaps and bounds from the "Dylan" days. Dude is just a straight up legit defender who's got a very high offensive side to his game as well.. Money well spent, so far, imo..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs&list=RDCLAK5uy_lf8okgl2ygD075nhnJVjlfhwp8NsUgEbs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs&list=RDCLAK5uy_lf8okgl2ygD075nhnJVjlfhwp8NsUgEbs)“(Lady) is just a small town (MD) girl, livin a lonely world. (DC $ is just a city boy BORN AND RAISED IN SOUTH DETROIT!!”
This will probably not get me a whole lot of love around here, but I'm going to come to John Carlson's defense.Or get paid a lot more by the league than we do.
As for Carlson's delay of game penalty, this was not a panic move on his part. Carlson moves the puck around the boards when he's caught behind the net to try to start a clear when he can't do it himself by using the boards and glass. And Carlson has been in the league long enough to understand the timing of NHL hockey plays. He know's he's going to get hit by Meier whether or not he releases the puck, because Meier is too close - Carlson is fair game for contact even a split second after release. What he DOES do by releasing the puck is get it up ice to where his teammates have a 4 on 3 manpower advantage. The most likely alternative, when being hounded 2 on 1, is giving up the puck in the defensive zone, earning Chicago more zone time at a point in the game where time is starting to become a factor.
Carlson didn't try to shoot the puck out to the rink there; he simply tried to play it off the glass and up the side, and got too much air under the puck. Maybe the puck flipped on him at the last millisecond or something -- I don't know. The issue here wasn't Carlson's attitude, it was his execution.
As for the extended rant about icing the puck when defending a 6 on 5 coming down the stretch, interesting you should mention that. It is EXACTLY what San Jose did after Vrana's goal, bringing the Caps back to the offensive zone for the play that set up Oshie's tying goal. Teams do it all the time, especially in the last minute of the game when protecting a 1-goal lead. Get the puck out of the zone at any and all costs, with the worst case being that some seconds are eaten up while the opponents chase the puck (since they are crowding the offensive zone anyway), and your presumed best defenders on the ice get a bit of a break while the puck is being retrieved. Don't forget, in the last minute of play you probably have your best defenders on the ice anyway, and they're going to stay out there until the horn sounds, so continuous play while the clock keeps running isn't always your best friend. And I cannot tell you how many times someone doesn't clear the zone when they have a clear shot at lambasting the puck, tries to make a play into the zone somewhere, the puck ends up NOT leaving the zone because the opponents are pressuring everything due to the game situation, and the opponents turn around and score it.
It is easy for us to criticize moves made by an NHL player while seated above it all. Things (1) look different when you are on the ice surface; and (2) are commonly supported by the player's experience of the best tactic having been through situations like this hundreds or thousands of times, as well as the organization's preference of what is to be done in such situations. If John Carlson weren't doing what the organization wanted during the last stages of the game, he wouldn't be on the ice in the last stages of the game. Think I'm kidding myself? Look how much time Ovechkin spends on the ice in such situations. Ovechkin's skill set is not good for protecting a late lead, so he doesn't see much ice time in those situations. Often times, Eller or someone like Dowd takes his place when Ovie's line mates are on the ice in those situations, giving the Caps better defense and two centers on face-offs in case one is thrown out of a face-off.
Carlson is not Wilson, or even Gudas. What he is, is a generally effective NHL defender who, because of his overall skill set, is recognized as one of the top defenders in the league, by people who know a lot more about the game than we do.
This will probably not get me a whole lot of love around here, but I'm going to come to John Carlson's defense.
As for Carlson's delay of game penalty, this was not a panic move on his part. Carlson moves the puck around the boards when he's caught behind the net to try to start a clear when he can't do it himself by using the boards and glass. And Carlson has been in the league long enough to understand the timing of NHL hockey plays. He know's he's going to get hit by Meier whether or not he releases the puck, because Meier is too close - Carlson is fair game for contact even a split second after release. What he DOES do by releasing the puck is get it up ice to where his teammates have a 4 on 3 manpower advantage. The most likely alternative, when being hounded 2 on 1, is giving up the puck in the defensive zone, earning Chicago more zone time at a point in the game where time is starting to become a factor.
Carlson didn't try to shoot the puck out to the rink there; he simply tried to play it off the glass and up the side, and got too much air under the puck. Maybe the puck flipped on him at the last millisecond or something -- I don't know. The issue here wasn't Carlson's attitude, it was his execution.
As for the extended rant about icing the puck when defending a 6 on 5 coming down the stretch, interesting you should mention that. It is EXACTLY what San Jose did after Vrana's goal, bringing the Caps back to the offensive zone for the play that set up Oshie's tying goal. Teams do it all the time, especially in the last minute of the game when protecting a 1-goal lead. Get the puck out of the zone at any and all costs, with the worst case being that some seconds are eaten up while the opponents chase the puck (since they are crowding the offensive zone anyway), and your presumed best defenders on the ice get a bit of a break while the puck is being retrieved. Don't forget, in the last minute of play you probably have your best defenders on the ice anyway, and they're going to stay out there until the horn sounds, so continuous play while the clock keeps running isn't always your best friend. And I cannot tell you how many times someone doesn't clear the zone when they have a clear shot at lambasting the puck, tries to make a play into the zone somewhere, the puck ends up NOT leaving the zone because the opponents are pressuring everything due to the game situation, and the opponents turn around and score it.
It is easy for us to criticize moves made by an NHL player while seated above it all. Things (1) look different when you are on the ice surface; and (2) are commonly supported by the player's experience of the best tactic having been through situations like this hundreds or thousands of times, as well as the organization's preference of what is to be done in such situations. If John Carlson weren't doing what the organization wanted during the last stages of the game, he wouldn't be on the ice in the last stages of the game. Think I'm kidding myself? Look how much time Ovechkin spends on the ice in such situations. Ovechkin's skill set is not good for protecting a late lead, so he doesn't see much ice time in those situations. Often times, Eller or someone like Dowd takes his place when Ovie's line mates are on the ice in those situations, giving the Caps better defense and two centers on face-offs in case one is thrown out of a face-off.
Carlson is not Wilson, or even Gudas. What he is, is a generally effective NHL defender who, because of his overall skill set, is recognized as one of the top defenders in the league, by people who know a lot more about the game than we do.
I would hope that Carlson never lays a hit on anyone as dirty and brutal as that Scott Stevens hit on Paul Kariya. I'm all for big hits, but not the stuff that hurts people permanently. Kariya suffers major brain damage from hits like that. I was just reading that he doesn't remember that hit or anything that happened for the next three days, including scoring goal 5 minutes after that hit in game 6 of the series, nor does he remember any of game 7. Scary that they let him play on after that hit.
I don't think Carson is the type of person to want to hurt anyone, and I am fine with that. Now sticking up for yourself or your teammates is something else and all players should do that. I'm all for a retaliatory strike.
I would hope that Carlson never lays a hit on anyone as dirty and brutal as that Scott Stevens hit on Paul Kariya. I'm all for big hits, but not the stuff that hurts people permanently. Kariya suffers major brain damage from hits like that. I was just reading that he doesn't remember that hit or anything that happened for the next three days, including scoring goal 5 minutes after that hit in game 6 of the series, nor does he remember any of game 7. Scary that they let him play on after that hit.The thing is, that hit was more brutal due to the size mistmatch. Stevens would and did hit ANYONE the same way.
I don't think Carson is the type of person to want to hurt anyone, and I am fine with that. Now sticking up for yourself or your teammates is something else and all players should do that. I'm all for a retaliatory strike.
Next time we hang out, well watch the Probert movie , and have a few bottles of Jack!!
Well said, Bro!
I would however, wager that sitting down with DC, watching some greatest of all time hockey fight reruns, (and don’t forget to add in a few shots of JACK “century“), would be a pretty fun evening!
Rush
I am sure that it would be! :uh-huh:
Well said, Bro!
I would however, wager that sitting down with DC, watching some greatest of all time hockey fight reruns, (and don’t forget to add in a few shots of JACK “century“), would be a pretty fun evening!
Rush
Well, Black, as usual, you have NOT disappointed, in your always, well-versed replies to my posts, whether they be pro, or con, to my view!
You may or may not get a lot of love here, from your post, as you mention, (I can’t call it), BUT... you will receive some respect for your opinion!
Whether I agree, disagree, or partially agree/disagree, with you, I always respect the ability of CLARITY, and the plausible reasoning behind your statements! (and NO, this is not some kind of reverse kiss-ass, butter up stuff, if anyone is inclined to be suspicious. I’m simply acknowledging, with appreciation, the mans care, and attentiveness, to good communication skills!)!👍👍
Having said that, You’ve given me a lot to digest, my friend, so I’ll try to respond to your post, paragraph by paragraph, that is, AFTER I address the LAST paragraph of your post, FIRST!
“Carlson is not Wilson, or even Gudas”.
Come on Black, I’ve got to give a good NSS on that one! (that’s Non Sense Sherlock, or the other one that’s more emphatic!)😁
Maybe a comparison, that’s a bit TOO opposite, Black, to believe that my points on Carlson, start with an expectation that he isn’t “Wilson level”, THEREFORE, THAT is why I think he’s a pussy!
Think about that reasoning, Black; for just a second.
If we had a hypothetical debate, in which you tried to persuade, and debate, that Mother Theresa, despite all her charitable attributes, STILL, had character flaws as a human being....and one of my counter points to you, was to say “Well, Black, Mother Theresa is NOT Hitler, or even Stalin”
I hope you see my point in this example, in that, YOU never even came close to such a comparison, and would think it absurd!
You would even be right, in this example, to say that I’d stooped to such a ridiculously low bar of comparison, As to call the weakness of my points into question. Otherwise, why would I need to do it??
YOU didn’t make the Mother Teresa/Hitler comparison. That would have been completely idiotic in its own right!! I DID IT, FOR YOU!! (falsely, I might add!).
Instead, I have to attribute it TO YOU, and incorrectly so, In an effort to bolster my position!
Lawyers do this all the time. Starting a conclusion, with an absurdly, over exaggerated premise! And if the jury BITES THE BAIT, his client may win!....(respectfully, though, not here, sir!)
Now, I’ve obviously, illuminated, and exaggerated, the example here, to make my point. But hopefully you get my drift.
[size=78%]Dammit! My Apologies, I’m against a little time crunch this evening, so I promise to get back and continue my response. If you want to take the opportunity to respond in the meantime. Feel free.[/size]
[size=78%]Hell, now that I’m thinking about it, it may be better to do these posts in shorter form, like this, as there’s a lot of subject matter between us on this issue![/size]
[size=78%]I’ll post again soon buddy.[/size]
put my hat on
[size=78%]Rush [/size]
I'm aware that my opinion doesn't carry quite as much clout as some others. but I also would put my hat in to defend John Carlson. This year.
He's been a volcano candidate many times and for several years, but tjis year.... NO.
HeS been great.
A slightly shaky start to the year, but then STEADY as she goes. No sign of the lazy, lacklustre, "Dylan" that he used to be. I've really liked the way he's played this year, so far.
I think (most of us) can agree that he’s great at what he does, but what he does isn’t that all that great.
Hey LIL!!👍
How have you been? Good to hear from you, as we haven’t talked in a while with each other!
Glad to see you’re still doing good justice to representing CAPS hockey, as possibly our sole, board ambassador in Surrey! Hell, maybe even all of the UK!
(Oh yeah, FYI, I had to get a new iPhone recently, and when deciding what data to transfer over, I saw that short little Alan May clip, from quite awhile ago! So if you ever lose it, i’ll always have a copy on iCloud)! Not bad for a non-techie, huh??😁😁
Anyway, I feel good to hear that you’ve turned the corner from the old “Dylan” mentality, and progressed on to liking and appreciating his play.
Who can fault you? The guy totally deserves it, and believe it or not, I actually appreciate him too!
I realize that the majority of my posts on the matter, this season, can be confusing! I have tried hard, with some questionable success, to try and SPECIFY, just exactly where I am, with this subject.
Honestly, sometimes my trying to be as CLEAR as I can, ( and I’m no genius, but you know I can be quite descriptive! Oftentimes too descriptive, RIGHT!!!)😆, can come off as too intense! I know this because my life circle of friends, mentions this aspect from time to time! LOL
It’s been both a positive, and a curse sometimes, for me personally, depending on the situation. My customers, with their heating and air-conditioning equipment, REALLY appreciate it, but other times, especially in social situations, I must come off like a thorn in someone’s ear!
Guilty on both, I say.
Quickly, and sparing you any more of my crazy self analysis, I try to nutshell my feelings on John Carlson for you.
The part I don’t like about him, looms HUGE, to me personally, but is quite micro in the overall John Carlson/Caps defenseman existence in reality! So that when I talk about his negatives, here on the board, I have pulled a small piece of the puzzle, put it under my intense microscope, and then rant away, from a personal peeve place in my brain!
When I talk on his positives, it is a zoom out, macro look, at the obvious reality, I exist in, with all the other Caps fans, that admires his incredible contributions to our Capitals team! My brain definitively has a section reserved, where I can overwhelmingly appreciate his value, respect him as an integral, and influential member of our CAPS team, of which I am a huge fan of!
Calling one side, as coming more from my sub-conscience, and the other side as coming from my reality experience, as far as all things Washington Capitals, is really about as honest of an assessment as I can furnish you!
Hope that helps, LIL!
Good to talk to you.
On a lighter note, I severely disagree with your posts opening, that you think your opinion doesn’t carry as much clout here. Let me just say, that you were one of the veterans on the old board, when I first joined. And I haven’t forgotten, the few others, YOU included, that gave me a warm, sincere welcome, when I was a “poster boy” nervous newbie!
Rush
Well Johhny Dylan Norris Candidate Qualude Carlson has greatly improved his game this year and I think consistently over the last 4 consecutive years. He is so much a better all around player, and better defenseman than he used to be. This year's offensive output is great, but I think a bit of an anomaly. He is a huge asset to this team and he is a great player. Hew will never, in my eyes, be a GREAT defenseman. He simply is not outwardly physical and dominating enough to be a GREAT defensemen. That does not mean he is not invaluable to this teams success, and he HAS improved on both the defensive and offensive sides.
Well Johhny Dylan Norris Candidate Qualude Carlson has greatly improved his game this year and I think consistently over the last 4 consecutive years. He is so much a better all around player, and better defenseman than he used to be. This year's offensive output is great, but I think a bit of an anomaly. He is a huge asset to this team and he is a great player. Hew will never, in my eyes, be a GREAT defenseman. He simply is not outwardly physical and dominating enough to be a GREAT defensemen. That does not mean he is not invaluable to this teams success, and he HAS improved on both the defensive and offensive sides.My point exactly 😁
THe delay of game penalty....meh, should not have happened but I don't think it was panick, it happens. Under duress? Sure, but so what...at least he didn't "Orlov it" to the slot for a quality shot on goal.
The Stevens hit....
Now THAT is a great defensemen (and I don't mean because of this hit or hits like it). I don't want to see anyone hurt, and he got the head which he would get some DPS games for these days, but this is the risk you took when you skated with your head down in the Scotty Zone. I know Kariya did not deserve it, but he did ask for it....especially in that day and age. Scotty was probably won of the best open ice hitters in the game. I think this is an example of the problem with some of the players today. They come up in an era where you don't have to protect yourself, and you don't have your head on a swivel and all is focused on dangle, dangle, dangle, shoot, score, and NO consideration is given to "protect myself" from guys like Stevens.
I am not promoting or applauding guys getting taken out by guys/hits like this, but I guaranty hits like these when applied within the rules made a huge difference in the effectiveness of Stevens and his ability to prevent guys from scoring on his team. Paul Kariya does not remember the hit or the next three days. I bet he remembered not to skate into Scotty's zone the next time he played him. I'll bet the coaches reminded him not to go there. Hell, even the announcers are saying..."this is why Babcock did not want him crossing over to that side". Damn straight, cause there's a killer there waiting to do his job on you.
Anyway, so much for the memories of days gone by.
And one more thing, regarding Carlson and Stephens being discussed in the same post/sentence/paragraph/discussion/thread/subject/game/planet....
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :lmao: :lol: :huh: :lmao: :rofl: :lol: