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Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: alta on Sunday February 21, 2021, 11:44:12 AM Eastern
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February 21 vs Devils at Capital One Arena
Time: 2:30
TV: NBC
Radio: Caps Radio 24/7, 106.7 fm
Washington Capitals 8-5-3
New Jersey Devils 6-4-2
Caps anticipated lines:
Ovechkin 8 - Backstrom 19 - Wilson 43
Vrana 13 - Kuznetsov 92 - Sheary 73
Oshie 77 - Eller 20 - Panik 14
Hagelin 62 - Dowd 26 - Hathaway 21
Dillon 4 - Carlson 74
Chara 33 - Schultz 2
Orlov 9 - Jensen 3
Anderson 31
PP1: Oshie, Backstrom, Vrana, Ovechkin, Carlson
PP2: Wilson, Eller, Kuznetsov, Orlov, Schultz
scratched:
Sprong
Siegenthaler
Van Riemsdyk
Vanecek
Devils anticipated lines:
Johnsson 11 - Hughes 86 - Palmieri 21
Gusev 97 - Hischier 13 - Bratt 63
Zacha 37 - Zajac 19 - Kuokkanen 59
Wood 44 - McLeod 20 - Bastian 14
Smith 24 - Severson 28
Murry 22 - Subban 76
Kulikov 70 - Vatanen 45
Dell 47
today's zebras
referees:
Jean Hebert 15 Peter MacDougall 38
linesmen:
Travis Toomey 90 Shandor Alphonso 52
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-get-first-look-at-devils-in-20-21/c-321632172 (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-get-first-look-at-devils-in-20-21/c-321632172)
https://novacapsfans.com/2021/02/21/craig-anderson-will-get-the-start-in-goal-against-the-devils/ (https://novacapsfans.com/2021/02/21/craig-anderson-will-get-the-start-in-goal-against-the-devils/)
scoring summary
1st period:
Johnsson PPG from Palmieri and Zacha at 9:35
2nd period:
Hughes from Johnsson and Palmieri at 3:55
Oshie PPG from Carlson and Backstrom at 13:38
3rd period:
Carlson from Dillon and Vrana at 9:16
Oshie PPG from Kuznetsov and Eller at 11:53
Ovechkin PPG from Oshie and Backstrom at 16:56
Gusev from Severson at 19:48
Caps win 4-3
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GAME TIME MOVED UP TO 2:30pm
instead of 7:00 because the NHL as run by betmann is a fukin joke,
and the outdoor game isn't even going to be on national tv
also, puck drop is 2:30 despite the game being listed as a 2:00 game
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Anderson in goal.. :-\ The fuck is wrong with Samsonov? He must of aggravated an injury or something? :huh: (Though Coach says it's just rust?) :smirk: Whatever.. Gonna need to score 5 in regulation, at least, it looks like. :raised-eyebrow:
Note: Devils goalie also hasn't started since March 2020 as well.. Should be fun. And we'll be going for 0-6 on early start games this year! :wackysmile:
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Anderson needs to play a few games, and scoring 5 is a given since the Caps can't hold a two goal lead
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I can't find any information on Caps lines, given the short turnaround I assume they are the same as yesterday
and every time the Caps have played on national tv this year there has not been the pregame on the local station
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and the news of NBC retiring Penishead was obviously not true
:raised-eyebrow: :raised-eyebrow: :raised-eyebrow: :raised-eyebrow:
:O= :O= :O= :O=
:clown: :poop:
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These early starts work for me. :wackysmile: Sadly not for anyone else, especially the team....... :smirk:
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I have a good feeling about this game.
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Anderson needs to play a few games, and scoring 5 is a given since the Caps can't hold a two goal lead
Anderson needs cab fare.. Samsonov needs games. :raspberry:
And yep, 2pm on NBC means 2:30 to the world.. :clown: :poop:
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Anderson needs cab fare.. Samsonov needs games. :raspberry:
And yep, 2pm on NBC means 2:30 to the world.. :clown: :poop:
Ahem! 7/30 :raspberry:
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O-O
Ahem! 7/30 :raspberry:
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Let's Go Anderson and Backy!
Let's GO CAPS, Let's get a W!
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Anderson in goal.. :-\ The fuck is wrong with Samsonov? He must of aggravated an injury or something? :huh: (Though Coach says it's just rust?) :smirk: Whatever.. Gonna need to score 5 in regulation, at least, it looks like. :raised-eyebrow:
Note: Devils goalie also hasn't started since March 2020 as well.. Should be fun. And we'll be going for 0-6 on early start games this year! :wackysmile:
Maybe Sammy is where he belongs right now.
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Which Hughs brother is better?
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Jensen got owned on that shift.
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Caps lines were changed up from yesterday
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Which Hughs brother is better?
I don't like either of them.
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Caps lines were changed up from yesterday
It's not working.
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Samsonov might not be good the rest of the year if he is a Covid long hauler :(
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Samsonov might not be good the rest of the year if he is a Covid long hauler :(
I'm not sure what you mean.
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I'm not sure what you mean.
Some people take a lot longer to fully recover.
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Some people take a lot longer to fully recover.
Well he has been playing games so I assume he has recovered.
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Well he has been playing games so I assume he has recovered.
Yes he can test negative for Covid but still be suffering ill effects.
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Must do better.
Far too lazy early on. :-(
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The over passing is going to cost us again. Thay're a fast team.
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Thus the difference between recovered and fully recovered. Sammy has played two games in the AHL since missing almost 3 weeks to the flu, one of which he got his ass waxed by the minor league
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We aren't very good are we? :-\ :wtf:
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Yes he can test negative for Covid but still be suffering ill effects.
I'm not buying it. If he was feeling any effects they wouldn't play him at all.
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8-0 The NHL has an official vodka. :lmao:
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Yeah.... :'( ...
Some people take a lot longer to fully recover.
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Oh yeah!
It's inexpensive compared to others, it's not bad. The marketing works, that's what we buy now.
8-0 The NHL has an official vodka. :lmao:
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:O= :O=
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FFS, We stink, at times.
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Obviously not enough passing by our guys... :-|
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Tough hockey to watch these days.
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That was all on Dowd. Poor play at both ends of the ice.
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I have a good feeling about this game.
I take it back. :poop: :poop: :poop:
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Kuzy dropped to 3rd line
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Kuzy dropped to 3rd line
The top 3 lines have all changed. I don't really like Eller on the Ovi line.
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Geez Hathaway with another careless penalty.
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Nice
74 77
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PPG Caps !!!!
:)
Oshie
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FINALLY!!!!!!
And on a PP
phew.
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FINALLY!!!!!!
And on a PP
phew.
Hopefully that gives the PP some confidence.
I'd still like to see someone else in Vrana's spot on the PP. He pretty much just stands at the goal line the entire time. And when the puck goes into the corner he rarely wins a board battle. It's almost like playing 4 on 4.
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We are lucky Eller didn't get called for interference at the end of that period.
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A better period, but NJ are still fighting for every puck and we are still pass, pass, pass, pass, oh, where'd it go? :stupid:
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so the sun is more intense at altitude, who’d a thunk it
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so the sun is more intense at altitude, who’d a thunk it
:lmao:
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Which Hughs brother is better?
Quinn at this point. He's a force in Vancouver.
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Um. The game is at 2:30?
WTF
My dvr and Dish say 7
I’ve been waiting to watch it live :raised-eyebrow:
Looks like form the comment I’ve not missed a good one
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It seems they continue to stuggle with getting out of their own zone.
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Um. The game is at 2:30?
WTF
My dvr and Dish say 7
I’ve been waiting to watch it live :raised-eyebrow:
Looks like form the comment I’ve not missed a good one
Caps seem to be playing better in this one, like there is actually a possibility of them at least getting this to OT
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GOOOAAALLL!!!!!!
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Woot!
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Whoooo hoooo! :clap:
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and Caps get a PP too
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(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5f7b557abfa230d7bc1ced41982084a1.webp)
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Quinn at this point. He's a force in Vancouver.
Have you seen him play? He is brutal defensively.
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Woot Woot!
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Nice. Tj oshie
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Oshie PPG!!!
:)
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:banana: :banana: :banana:
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I have watched Vancouver cause of Holtby, Beagle and Smidty, but I usually only pay attention to those 3. I do recall thinking that the top draft pick wasn't doing as good as his brother.
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Have you seen him play? He is brutal defensively.
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Amazing what can happen with a little bit of effort.
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Beagle will be in Washington at the deadline.
Quinn Hughes will be USA's top pp dman in the Olympics I think.
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Beagle will be in Washington at the deadline.
Quinn Hughes will be USA's top pp dman in the Olympics I think.
We could use Beagle in the faceoff dot. But he doesn't bring much else.
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Caps get another PP
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just sick
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OV with the wide open PPG
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I missed Ohie's 2nd goal.
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Get TJ a hattie!
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Yeah baby! :wow:
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OV with the wide open PPG
The odd thing is that we used 2 defencemen non that pp. Ovi was actually down low. I assume they used that formation for defensive reasons.
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Caps came alive once they juggled the lines.
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:O= :O= :O=
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Guess I should start watching ALL the games about 5 minutes into the third
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Caps win 4-3 :clap:
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Oshie had a good game but he got caughtt napping on that last goal.
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GG
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It'd be very interesting to see how many people in the organization want McMicheal, Sheary, Pilon, or Axel up here to challenge for roster spots, particularly the spots of the lazy, under performing, & low bench pressing
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Lavi doing things right...
Caps came alive once they juggled the lines.
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CAPS50
Just saw this.
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A win is a win. :clap: Well done Anderson.
Those line changes seemed to help.
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We could use Beagle in the faceoff dot. But he doesn't bring much else.
That's all we need him for. Get him for a 4th round pick and have Vancouver eat his salary for the rest of the year.
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Caps came alive once they juggled the lines.
I'm not sure how much juggling the lines changed things. We created most of our offense on the PP.
At even strength most of our chances came off shots from the point. It wasn't like one particular line gelled very well. All 4 lines were decent the last 2 periods.
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That's all we need him for. Get him for a 4th round pick and have Vancouver eat his salary for the rest of the year.
And who gets bumped? Dowd?
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CAPS50
Just saw this.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/798052556387516456/813168639402442832/4u6e90.jpg?width=264&height=374)
Funny but true. Bad thing is that Holtby is in a worse situation in Vancouver than he was here. That team sucks defensively.
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Caps came alive once they juggled the lines.
Maybe so. Not trying to be argumentative but
Weren’t three of the goals PPG? So not sure how much line juggling translates in PP goals but they certainly seemed to pick up their play in the second half of the game.
Moving Panik to Backy’s line is a waste of Backy’s passing...cause stone hands Panik struggles to bury the puck. He has certainly worked harder this year and it shows but it doesn’t change he will never be a touch guy.
If you have guys underperforming (ahem...Kuzy, Vranna) then sit them for 2-3 games and let McMichael and others have a shot (on a scoring line)
Bringing young guns up to get ice time on the fourth lines never interested me....let them play their game.
We HAVE some very hard working and effective 3/4 line guys.
Anyway...not really knocking mixing up the lines but did any of those lines actually produce a goal?
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It'd be very interesting to see how many people in the organization want McMicheal, Sheary, Pilon, or Axel up here to challenge for roster spots, particularly the spots of the lazy, under performing, & low bench pressing
Sheary already has a spot. Not sure if the other guys are ready. Our forward prospects don't look very good.
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Hah. Chaos types faster and is less chatty
Skip my last post and just say ditto to what chaos said
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Maybe so. Not trying to be argumentative but
Weren’t three of the goals PPG? So not sure how much line juggling translates in PP goals but they certainly seemed to pick up their play in the second half of the game.
Moving Panik to Backy’s line is a waste of Backy’s passing...cause stone hands Panik struggles to bury the puck. He has certainly worked harder this year and it shows but it doesn’t change he will never be a touch guy.
If you have guys underperforming (ahem...Kuzy, Vranna) then sit them for 2-3 games and let McMichael and others have a shot (on a scoring line)
Bringing young guns up to get ice time on the fourth lines never interested me....let them play their game.
We HAVE some very hard working and effective 3/4 line guys.
Anyway...not really knocking mixing up the lines but did any of those lines actually produce a goal?
If they did give McMichael a shot, he needs to play in the top 6. He just isn't a bottom 6 player. And like you said, bump Vrana or Kuzy.
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And who gets bumped? Dowd?
There may be an injury at that point. Could move dowd to the wing as well.
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Well that was a nice piece of tape I watched! Line changes definitely sparked them. They pretty much dominated from the 2nd period on.. Nice that the PP clicked, but playing in the other end of the ice is what spawns those opportunities.
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Sheary already has a spot. Not sure if the other guys are ready. Our forward prospects don't look very good.
My bad, I meant Leason or Sutter REPLACING Sheary, or Keller, or Spooge, or Panik.
At this point, being <22, 6'4, 225+ fighting for a spot, will provide something overpaid, smaller, weaker & lazier vets wont or cant.
And yes, Im sure some of the organization doesn't think theyre ready, & this seasons 2-way/taxi squad call-up is half a mystery, but right now a lot of the "vets" dont look like theyre ready either
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And who gets bumped? Dowd?
In that case, bump Sheary & move Keller to wing.
Doubt GMBetaMale would do that even if the Canucks would
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That's all we need him for. Get him for a 4th round pick and have Vancouver eat his salary for the rest of the year.
Do whatever it takes! Two first rounders and throw in Backstrom!! Put Beagle in with Ovi and watch that scoring machine light fire!!!!
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I love Beags, but I wouldn't bring him back now. I don't think he's the type that has the genes that lets him play well until the age of 35, and he is now 35
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Sorry folks. I love Jay Beagle and his effort and so on and his history with the team, but at age 34 he's not worth 3 mil/year TO A VERY CASH STRAPPED TEAM as a 4th line Center just to win some faceoffs. At best he could take maybe 1/3 of the teams total draws and win maybe 58% of those?. That's a TEAM face off percentage improvement of maybe 2-3% best case. I know it's important and a undervalued skill, and we know he's a great guy and a good PK guy and such, but Dowd at $750k is basically the same guy for 1/4 the cost (minus some of the faceoff skill). And Dowd is 4-5 years younger. We have enough 3rd/4th line type PK guys. I am using Dowd as comparison because he is the 4C
SO I looked it up...
Dowd's FO % is right around 52.8% this year
Jay Beagle is a beast in the circle at 57.8%
That's a 5% increase for one player who will take likely less than 1/3 of the teams draws. That's a team's Faceoff % net increase of like 1.7%
That's not worth adding $2.25 million to this team. (Dowd is a flat out bargain at $750k per year)
Now if you want to trade Hags at 2.75 mill and talk VC into keeping $250k of Beags Salary then okay. But then you still have basically two 4C guys. I guess Dowd could play wing or you bring in one of the other guys (waiting in the wings) :snicker: .
But you still have to manage the salary problem.
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Maybe so. Not trying to be argumentative but
Weren’t three of the goals PPG? So not sure how much line juggling translates in PP goals but they certainly seemed to pick up their play in the second half of the game.
Moving Panik to Backy’s line is a waste of Backy’s passing...cause stone hands Panik struggles to bury the puck. He has certainly worked harder this year and it shows but it doesn’t change he will never be a touch guy.
If you have guys underperforming (ahem...Kuzy, Vranna) then sit them for 2-3 games and let McMichael and others have a shot (on a scoring line)
Bringing young guns up to get ice time on the fourth lines never interested me....let them play their game.
We HAVE some very hard working and effective 3/4 line guys.
Anyway...not really knocking mixing up the lines but did any of those lines actually produce a goal?
Carlson's was even strength I think. Yeah, I don't know if it was in game results or what but this from RMNB I found interesting.
"....The player that played the least on the entire team at five-on-five was Evgeny Kuznetsov (10:31). I feel like it’s becoming noticeable that Peter Laviolette doesn’t exactly trust Kuzy too much in close games......"
But, we are really only seeing the squad together as a whole for the 4th or 5th game (and no Sammy) so I think kinks need some working out still.
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Sorry folks. I love Jay Beagle and his effort and so on and his history with the team, but at age 34 he's not worth 3 mil/year TO A VERY CASH STRAPPED TEAM as a 4th line Center just to win some faceoffs. At best he could take maybe 1/3 of the teams total draws and win maybe 58% of those?. That's a TEAM face off percentage improvement of maybe 2-3% best case. I know it's important and a undervalued skill, and we know he's a great guy and a good PK guy and such, but Dowd at $750k is basically the same guy for 1/4 the cost (minus some of the faceoff skill). And Dowd is 4-5 years younger. We have enough 3rd/4th line type PK guys. I am using Dowd as comparison because he is the 4C
SO I looked it up...
Dowd's FO % is right around 52.8% this year
Jay Beagle is a beast in the circle at 57.8%
That's a 5% increase for one player who will take likely less than 1/3 of the teams draws. That's a team's Faceoff % net increase of like 1.7%
That's not worth adding $2.25 million to this team. (Dowd is a flat out bargain at $750k per year)
Now if you want to trade Hags at 2.75 mill and talk VC into keeping $250k of Beags Salary then okay. But then you still have basically two 4C guys. I guess Dowd could play wing or you bring in one of the other guys (waiting in the wings) :snicker: .
But you still have to manage the salary problem.
Thats why you move/taxi/send down Sheary, Panik, Spooge, Keller, or any of the overpaid Lollipop Guild that play the "3rd" line, & put Beagle there, with McMicheal, Sutter, or Pillion.
A 35 year Beagle and 22 yo kid is better than any of the Lollipop Guid right now
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Sorry folks. I love Jay Beagle and his effort and so on and his history with the team, but at age 34 he's not worth 3 mil/year TO A VERY CASH STRAPPED TEAM as a 4th line Center just to win some faceoffs. At best he could take maybe 1/3 of the teams total draws and win maybe 58% of those?. That's a TEAM face off percentage improvement of maybe 2-3% best case. I know it's important and a undervalued skill, and we know he's a great guy and a good PK guy and such, but Dowd at $750k is basically the same guy for 1/4 the cost (minus some of the faceoff skill). And Dowd is 4-5 years younger. We have enough 3rd/4th line type PK guys. I am using Dowd as comparison because he is the 4C
SO I looked it up...
Dowd's FO % is right around 52.8% this year
Jay Beagle is a beast in the circle at 57.8%
That's a 5% increase for one player who will take likely less than 1/3 of the teams draws. That's a team's Faceoff % net increase of like 1.7%
That's not worth adding $2.25 million to this team. (Dowd is a flat out bargain at $750k per year)
Now if you want to trade Hags at 2.75 mill and talk VC into keeping $250k of Beags Salary then okay. But then you still have basically two 4C guys. I guess Dowd could play wing or you bring in one of the other guys (waiting in the wings) :snicker: .
But you still have to manage the salary problem.
Hence why I said they eat most of his salary. Read first, then respond. Vancouver gets a 4th instead of a 6th for eating his salary. Caps wont need much maneuvering if its at the deadline and he'll need to be quarantined for a bit coming from the north division (canada)
There will be injuries between now and then and into the playoffs.
What's your glorious idea to help with faceoffs beside praying Peca can turn things around for the current centremen?Lol
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Hence why I said they eat most of his salary. Read first, then respond. Vancouver gets a 4th instead of a 6th for eating his salary. Caps wont need much maneuvering if its at the deadline and he'll need to be quarantined for a bit coming from the north division (canada)
There will be injuries between now and then and into the playoffs.
What's your glorious idea to help with faceoffs beside praying Peca can turn things around for the current centremen?Lol
To be fair. . .(to be faiir, to be faiiiir, to be faiiiiir, to ba faiiiiiiiiiiiiir) . . .heh Letterkenny fucking rules!!!
Might as well have Willie & Oshie take most of the face-offs, they're better at it then Suzy & Keller.
I wish that was in jest but sadly it would work better than what we have now
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Thats why you move/taxi/send down Sheary, Panik, Spooge, Keller, or any of the overpaid Lollipop Guild that play the "3rd" line, & put Beagle there, with McMicheal, Sutter, or Pillion.
A 35 year Beagle and 22 yo kid is better than any of the Lollipop Guid right now
I don't understand your beef with Eller. He is adequately paid for his value. He is a good 3c and fills that role well, and a very good fit on this team particularly. He has filled in at 2C when needed, and can move up and down the lineup as needed. I am not expecting 20+ goals out of him, but rather ABOUT 15-20g and 20a in a full season...which is pretty much where he is at and has performed over his time in Washington. Also....he picked up his play in the SC playoffs and scored some timely/big goals. Also he plays hard. Not Tom Wilson hard, but he uses his size well and mucks in the corners and does generate some chances. He passes pretty well. If he didn't have two wingers with stone hands he'd probably score a little more, but that's true of anyone.
I know you can't get past the Rat jumping him a few years ago and your general dislike (okay total hatred) for anything Euro, but Eller is an adequate 3C and paid accordingly, and I think a very good fit on this team at this time.
The average scoring for a NHL 3C is 14 goals and 36pts. Eller the last three seasons had 18, 13, 16 goals and 38, 36, 39 pts. And one of those was a short season.
Now that "average" is kind of wonky because 3c (or any 3rd line) has vastly different roles on different teams. Eller's line is MOSTLY a shut down line and NOT a scoring line, so the fact he has slightly better than average scoring (especially considering his line mates)
Not that I am the greatest lover of Eller, but I don't understand the rap he gets on these boards. He has been a good 3c fit for this team.
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Hence why I said they eat most of his salary. Read first, then respond. Vancouver gets a 4th instead of a 6th for eating his salary. Caps wont need much maneuvering if its at the deadline and he'll need to be quarantined for a bit coming from the north division (canada)
There will be injuries between now and then and into the playoffs.
What's your glorious idea to help with faceoffs beside praying Peca can turn things around for the current centremen?Lol
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Dude? Why always the dickhead attitude with you? You can post your ideas or disagree with someone without being a dick. Or can you? :huh:
Are you still mad about the poutine thing? Get over it already.
I did read the post first and then responded. I read that you said Vancouver would eat most of Beags salary....but why would they do that? And my post stated my argument for why Beagle would not be a good trade for this team at this time....TOO MUCH COST FOR TOO LITTLE GAIN. I did this without attacking you. I simply disagreed with you. I loved Beagle when he was here and loved his play and YES, he is great at face offs. But just because your want a guy like him doesn't mean your team can afford him or that he is worth what it will actually cost to get him. And thinking that one old guy coming in is going to solve your faceoff problem is unrealistic. That doesn't fix the other 3 centers faceoff woes. OR do you expect that Beags faceoff skills will cure the others' by osmosis? Your own made up jab about a faceoff coach isn't going to help, bet then you think one faceoff guys solves the woes of the rest of them? Just as you stated in your post, but apparently did not read...
Oh wait, it's let me quote you..."What's your glorious idea to help with faceoffs beside praying Peca Beags can turn things around for the current centremen?Lol"
[/size]I did not say praying or Peca would solve it. Did I? So why suggest that was my idea? And so exactly how does your Beags solution turn things around for the other current centers?
Your "glorious idea" is a part fantasy or wish list. Great...if we are going to fantasize, why not just trade Dowd and a bag of pucks for McDavid? Oh...wait because maybe Edmonton wouldn't go for that. Or we are strictly worried about Faceoffs...why not Cindy Crybaby Crosby? He's pretty good in the dot.
How about we throw in a bucket of poutine (not pissed in) to sweeten the deal. Then maybe they'd go for it? You'd know better than the rest of us, I'm sure. Since you are Canadian, you therefore must know more about hockey and poutine value than the rest of us.
You jumped all over Alta a couple weeks back for suggesting the Caps GM wasn't great. Can you not just disagree and then state why you disagree and skip the hostility. Man, someone must have really peed in your poutine, or maybe it just curdled? Oh wait, it is supposed to be curdled, so.... Oh never mind.
I'm about tired of your pissy puotine ass. If you can comment and share and swap ideas, great. That's why we are here. I/we welcome alternative points of view and ideas and discussion about hockey (and other stuff). But if you want to continue to just be a dickhead then go to the Hens board - you'll fit right in. :uh-huh:
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I don't understand your beef with Eller. He is adequately paid for his value. He is a good 3c and fills that role well, and a very good fit on this team particularly. He has filled in at 2C when needed, and can move up and down the lineup as needed. I am not expecting 20+ goals out of him, but rather ABOUT 15-20g and 20a in a full season...which is pretty much where he is at and has performed over his time in Washington. Also....he picked up his play in the SC playoffs and scored some timely/big goals. Also he plays hard. Not Tom Wilson hard, but he uses his size well and mucks in the corners and does generate some chances. He passes pretty well. If he didn't have two wingers with stone hands he'd probably score a little more, but that's true of anyone.
I know you can't get past the Rat jumping him a few years ago and your general dislike (okay total hatred) for anything Euro, but Eller is an adequate 3C and paid accordingly, and I think a very good fit on this team at this time.
The average scoring for a NHL 3C is 14 goals and 36pts. Eller the last three seasons had 18, 13, 16 goals and 38, 36, 39 pts. And one of those was a short season.
Now that "average" is kind of wonky because 3c (or any 3rd line) has vastly different roles on different teams. Eller's line is MOSTLY a shut down line and NOT a scoring line, so the fact he has slightly better than average scoring (especially considering his line mates)
Not that I am the greatest lover of Eller, but I don't understand the rap he gets on these boards. He has been a good 3c fit for this team.
If you are only talking about points and posts per million cap hit, you are completely correct.
My main issues is for his role, ice-time, & salary, his face-offs, defense, versatility, turnovers, physicality & intensity have at best been average and that on occasion, and his offensive production has been inconsistent & not enough to compensate.
While age is his advantage, he's nowhere near the complete player that Beagle or Fehr are, particularly at comparative ages, if not now.
But, until GMBetaMale mans up, or Lavi screams more, the "3rd" line will consistent of one-way players not good enough to play over 12 min per game that "enter the zone with speed" only to be crushed 90% of the time.
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If you are only talking about points and posts per million cap hit, you are completely correct.
My main issues is for his role, ice-time, & salary, his face-offs, defense, versatility, turnovers, physicality & intensity have at best been average and that on occasion, and his offensive production has been inconsistent & not enough to compensate.
While age is his advantage, he's nowhere near the complete player that Beagle or Fehr are, particularly at comparative ages, if not now.
But, until GMBetaMale mans up, or Lavi screams more, the "3rd" line will consistent of one-way players not good enough to play over 12 min per game that "enter the zone with speed" only to be crushed 90% of the time.
Although as much as I like Eller for our current 3C...
I do NOT see him as a 1C with Ovie and Willy (like tonight's lines)
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Dude? Why always the dickhead attitude with you? You can post your ideas or disagree with someone without being a dick. Or can you? :huh:
Are you still mad about the poutine thing? Get over it already.
I did read the post first and then responded. I read that you said Vancouver would eat most of Beags salary....but why would they do that? And my post stated my argument for why Beagle would not be a good trade for this team at this time....TOO MUCH COST FOR TOO LITTLE GAIN. I did this without attacking you. I simply disagreed with you. I loved Beagle when he was here and loved his play and YES, he is great at face offs. But just because your want a guy like him doesn't mean your team can afford him or that he is worth what it will actually cost to get him. And thinking that one old guy coming in is going to solve your faceoff problem is unrealistic. That doesn't fix the other 3 centers faceoff woes. OR do you expect that Beags faceoff skills will cure the others' by osmosis? Your own made up jab about a faceoff coach isn't going to help, bet then you think one faceoff guys solves the woes of the rest of them? Just as you stated in your post, but apparently did not read...
Oh wait, it's let me quote you..."What's your glorious idea to help with faceoffs beside praying Peca Beags can turn things around for the current centremen?Lol"
I did not say praying or Peca would solve it. Did I? So why suggest that was my idea? And so exactly how does your Beags solution turn things around for the other current centers?
Your "glorious idea" is a part fantasy or wish list. Great...if we are going to fantasize, why not just trade Dowd and a bag of pucks for McDavid? Oh...wait because maybe Edmonton wouldn't go for that. Or we are strictly worried about Faceoffs...why not Cindy Crybaby Crosby? He's pretty good in the dot.
How about we throw in a bucket of poutine (not pissed in) to sweeten the deal. Then maybe they'd go for it? You'd know better than the rest of us, I'm sure. Since you are Canadian, you therefore must know more about hockey and poutine value than the rest of us.
You jumped all over Alta a couple weeks back for suggesting the Caps GM wasn't great. Can you not just disagree and then state why you disagree and skip the hostility. Man, someone must have really peed in your poutine, or maybe it just curdled? Oh wait, it is supposed to be curdled, so.... Oh never mind.
I'm about tired of your pissy puotine ass. If you can comment and share and swap ideas, great. That's why we are here. I/we welcome alternative points of view and ideas and discussion about hockey (and other stuff). But if you want to continue to just be a dickhead then go to the Hens board - you'll fit right in. :uh-huh:
How is getting beagle a fantasy?
You simply prove over and over that your hockey knowledge is slim to none but you do know lots about poutine so there's a start.
Why wouldn't a team that's not going to make the playoffs refuse to trade a guy that is older and on an expiring contract?
What would you say the cost would be? I figure a 4th rd pick would be enough for them to eat his salary. He's a 4th liner on an expiring contract. Usually they go for 6-7th pick at the deadline. Caps wont be able to do much more without sending contracts out. It's an add without subtracting.
Its ok for you to chirp me but I can't chirp you? Typical toddler attitude and I continue to expect nothing less from you.
And yes, thanks for admitting that I know more about hockey and poutine than you. You're making progress. :uh-huh:
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There is a big difference between chirping and throwing insults as you have done.
Bringing Beags back has been talked about since the day he left. There were opportunities to do so prior to now. It didn't happen then for the same reason it won't happen now, and it has nothing to do with the salary cap.
Hopefully you know more about poutine
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How is getting beagle a fantasy?
You simply prove over and over that your hockey knowledge is slim to none but you do know lots about poutine so there's a start.
Why wouldn't a team that's not going to make the playoffs refuse to trade a guy that is older and on an expiring contract?
What would you say the cost would be? I figure a 4th rd pick would be enough for them to eat his salary. He's a 4th liner on an expiring contract. Usually they go for 6-7th pick at the deadline. Caps wont be able to do much more without sending contracts out. It's an add without subtracting.
Its ok for you to chirp me but I can't chirp you? Typical toddler attitude and I continue to expect nothing less from you.
And yes, thanks for admitting that I know more about hockey and poutine than you. You're making progress. :uh-huh:
I agree 100%
But . . .
GMBetaMale & Monumental Entertainment simply does not value a skill set like Beagles enough, if at all.
What you and I are suggesting would absolutely give this team more wins than the losses one-way soft midgets, (height or weight room, or attitude), that GMBetaMale likes & Monumental wants to "sell", have costs and will continue to.
For evidence, without Wilson, Nick, & Ovie together, Dowds group has hands done been our BEST group this year, with the "2nd" & "3rd" not coming close despite generally getting more time this year.
But, Kuzy, Varana, Eller, Sheary, & Panik (certainly) sell more jerseys than Hathaway, Haglin, & Dowd do, and probably more than Beagle would.
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How is getting beagle a fantasy?
You simply prove over and over that your hockey knowledge is slim to none but you do know lots about poutine so there's a start.
Why wouldn't a team that's not going to make the playoffs refuse to trade a guy that is older and on an expiring contract?
What would you say the cost would be? I figure a 4th rd pick would be enough for them to eat his salary. He's a 4th liner on an expiring contract. Usually they go for 6-7th pick at the deadline. Caps wont be able to do much more without sending contracts out. It's an add without subtracting.
Its ok for you to chirp me but I can't chirp you? Typical toddler attitude and I continue to expect nothing less from you.
And yes, thanks for admitting that I know more about hockey and poutine than you. You're making progress. :uh-huh:
Beagle's contract is not expiring this year, but rather next year. It's $3m per for the next two years. The fantasy is that Vancouver would pay that salary this year and NEXT just to unload him. Yes it happens on occasion and Vancouver is struggling somewhat, but unless they simply have bogus cap space to throw away....why would they pay the bulk of a salary to send Beags packing? I don't think it is likely.
Or are you suggesting the Caps continue to throw away draft picks for short term rentals.....on a 4th line guy who will have VERY LITTLE real impact? Take Beags for a pick and VC caries his salary for rest of this year and then you dump him in offseason? Cause we as shit can't afford Beags at $3m next year. THAT is NOT what this team needs...and aging 35 year old 4th liner for $3m. And if you put him on waivers at the end of the season....don't you have to pay a cap penalty for next year? (That I am not sure about, but I believe putting a player with active contract on waivers results in some cap space penalty for subsequent years of the contract)
How have I proven my hockey knowledge is slim to none? Just because I disagree with YOU on this topic does not mean I have no hockey knowledge. It just means I disagree with you. Why do you have to attack anyone that disagrees with you? You do it often here, and it's not just me. Simply state your case and disagree. (I do realize in THIS case you and I already started down the chirping road road so okay - but that doesn't excuse it for every other time you do it)
I try and use reality in considering and composing my posts. SO here's a novel idea you can try sometime....try and use some real facts in your discussion. Like this: Vancouver has $2.48 in cap space. (I looked it up) I doubt (my opinion) they'd want to use $3m in throw away for this year (partial) AND all of NEXT to give Beags to the Caps for a 6th round pick...which is why I posted it was fantasy.
The Capitals have ZERO cap space. Actually they are in the hole on cap space. They are currently underwater on cap space and that EXCLUDES the $4m in cap space for Kempny and Lundqvist if either returns this year (which I doubt). This is all real data (facts) you can research and see for yourself. Explain with your proven hockey IQ how giving up a future asset (trade pick) reduces their salary cap enough to add $3m for Beags next year? Unless you are unloading another piece...but you said trade 6th rounder for Beags...that does not reduce your cap space next year....unless your fantasy of VC paying two years of salary to unload Beags is true.. That's simply too high a price for the current Caps situation....to add another 4th line guy who will have little impact.
Beags is not worth $3m to THIS TEAM at this time. That's a fact. I don't believe he is worth $3m at this point to the Caps if they could afford it - that's my opinion. Caps have Dowd basically filling that role at literally 1/4 the salary of Beagle. No, Dowd is not as good as Beagle at many things (my opinion). But guess what? The Caps can afford Dowd at $750k a year (fact). That's actually a pretty good bargain (my opinion). The Caps cannot afford Beagle at $3m or even at $1.5m (fact).
Same goes with Karl Alzner. I loved him and he was a very valuable asset to the Caps for many years. That's my opinion. The sad fact was when he signed a deal to go elsewhere...he was not worth the salary it would have taken to keep him TO THIS TEAM AT THAT TIME. Consequently, his play declined more so than I think anyone expected, but that is somewhat irrelevant. The fact of the matter is as much as we/whoever liked Alzner and would have liked to reward him with a big contract....he was not worth it to the Caps at that time.
Managing the cap Space is a vital part of all of this. You can't just ignore it (especially the Caps who are so far up against it).
Wanting a guy like Beags, Needing a guy like Beags, doesn't mean you necessarily get him for what you can afford. Getting a team to give you a guy and also pay his salary is great, but I don't believe it's reality with Beags. If VC is blowing up the team and shaving salary and building for the future....Would not a guy like Beags who is a wealth of knowledge and experience and more so a valued work ethic, yet not that big a cap hit and only under contract for the next 2 years be a better piece to keep? And if you are dumping salary then dump big salary.
I would much rather you suggest something like.."hey IF we could trade piece X or Y, we could do this..."
rather than just attacking anyone who disagrees with you. I realize I got on your nerves early on about the poutine thing without meaning to and I did apologize for it (and I was a dick back to you in this thread)
but fore Heaven's sake let it go. Stop being a dick to everyone that disagrees with something you say.