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Grubs has been named the starter for Thursday, Trots says it’s game by game
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Grubs has been named the starter for Thursday, Trots says it’s game by game
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Grubs has been named the starter for Thursday, Trots says it’s game by game
So be it. I commented elsewhere that starting Grubauer gives Trotz an easier out -- if the Caps get in trouble or Grubauer looks shaky, it's an easy and natural decision to revert to your franchise goaltender. If you start with the franchise goaltender it's harder to yank him because of the "dance with who brung ya" syndrome.
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I suspect it's Grubs til he loses, Trotz throws that qualifier in so he doesn't hurt anyone's feelings
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I suspect it's Grubs til he loses, Trotz throws that qualifier in so he doesn't hurt anyone's feelings
I’m guessing this is just as much from Dickless & BetaMale as Trorz.
Nothing like a “goalie controversy” to spice up the playoffs! Particularly when the orginization has a near-criminal neglect for all things defense, and “blames the goalie” every playoff. Just bench an elite elite goalie and all the attention will be on that!
Besides, Trotz’s probably has vacation plans booked in a week anyway. He all ready did his job “just get to the playoffs”
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I guess I'm OK with Grubauer starting but I still prefer Holtby. Hope this decision doesn't hurt us.
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I guess I'm OK with Grubauer starting but I still prefer Holtby. Hope this decision doesn't hurt us.
Grub earned it. Holtby wasn't a stealer in playoff even when he was in the top of his shape in the regular seasons.
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Grub earned it. Holtby wasn't a stealer in playoff even when he was in the top of his shape in the regular seasons.
Neither was most of the team,
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I guess I'm OK with Grubauer starting but I still prefer Holtby. Hope this decision doesn't hurt us.
Couldn't you see where it would be reasonable to express the same hope and uncertainty, though, if the choice had been Holtby, given his shakiness of the past 2 + months?
I read an interesting article this morning that said that Trotz HAD to choose Grubauer or he "would have lost the room." Now none of us knows what is going on with the team, but I found that claim rather interesting. Is it reasonable to think that the team would be adamant that Grubauer would be the only logical choice? Is preference that fleeting? It IS true that Grubauer has been as good as or better than any other goalie in the league for the past 4 months, but Holtby has been The Man for the past several years. I'd like to think that the team would have been OK with either choice. But I can't know -- maybe the feeling is that they haven't gotten it done with Holtby, so they want to try to catch lightning in a bottle with the current hot hand.
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Oh, I wouldn't doubt it if the team wants Grubauer to start.. They certainly don't want to dissect the reasons Holtby "looked shaky", cause then they'd have to look in the mirror and realize their team defense was a direct reflection of it. Much easier to DEMAND they start Gruby!! :wackysmile: Hey Koolaid!! :poop:
Anyway, they better hope Gruby is all that, because I wouldn't be surprised at all to read about Holtby asking to be traded after the season ends...
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Neither was most of the team,
Correct, but to be blunt Holtby had been playing TERRIBLE for a while. Grubs was playing better behind do the same awful defense.
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Oh, I wouldn't doubt it if the team wants Grubauer to start.. They certainly don't want to dissect the reasons Holtby "looked shaky", cause then they'd have to look in the mirror and realize their team defense was a direct reflection of it. Much easier to DEMAND they start Gruby!! :wackysmile: Hey Koolaid!! :poop:
Anyway, they better hope Gruby is all that, because I wouldn't be surprised at all to read about Holtby asking to be traded after the season ends...
Yep, gotta keep The European Union happy right? >:(
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Gotta admit, that I'm a little bit confu-used....
Sometimes it seems to me, as if I'm just being u-used..
Anyone know the lyrics?
Pretty surprised by this decision. Despite my doubts of Holtby which I posted in another thread, I really believed Trotz was going back to him to start game 1. And I liked the idea. I was hoping he would have known he has a short leash and would play inspired. But now it I think it's a desperate move by Trotz and I'm worried. As much as Grubby has played, he still hasn't played as much as Holtby this season. I guess one good thing is neither of them are overworked going into the playoffs.
One thing seems clear, this could be Trotz's last season as well as Holtby's. Unless....unless the unthinkable happens.
I refuse to into the playoffs with no optimism so LETS GO CAPS!
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NBC sports already talking about the Caps getting "upset" by Columbus lol. I hate to say it, but I think it'll happen too. Hope not, but I have no faith in this team as constructed.
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NBC sports already talking about the Caps getting "upset" by Columbus lol. I hate to say it, but I think it'll happen too. Hope not, but I have no faith in this team as constructed.
I have a bad feeling about this series too. Their defense is solid and they have Bobrosky in net. Goals might be hard to come by.
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Grubs was playing better behind the same awful defense.
Was he though? I don't recall many (if any) games where Gruby faced multiple odd man rushes? I know the 1st shot was going in a lot on Holtby, then he'd face a couple/three odd man breaks and only stop 1 or 2. A PP goal or two would deflect in and it's a 3-4 goal game your offense has to match.. Don't recall Gruby having to play behind that nonsense much, if at all.. Least not while he's been "hot".. :wackysmile:
I'm certainly glad the D (and Grubs) has looked better the last month or so, but Holtby has looked better right along with them. The more I'm thinking about this the more I'm not seeing a path for Holtby to still be here (willingly) next year.. Unless Gruby gets yanked early in the series and Holtby carries us to a cup.
Scenario A: Gruby does good and we get past the 2nd round.. Holtby accepts he's not the starter anymore and asks to be traded.
Scenario B: Gruby gets the starts and we lose in round 1 or 2 again.. Holby's says thanks for nothing and asks to be traded.
Scenario C: Gruby gets pulled and Holtby takes us deeper than round 2.. Holtby still asks to be traded cause he's pissed he wasn't the starter to begin with..
Scenario D: Grubs is pulled, Holtby takes us to a Cup.. Everyone kisses his ass and all is forgiven. (Though he still might say fuck off) lol
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Holtby definitely had to face more odd man rushes than Grubauer. The one I remember most was Kane and Toews with a 2 on 0. Holtby actually made the save but couldn't stop the renound.
Yes Grubauer had the same guys playing in front of him but he played against a lot of offensively challenged teams. He started 3 games against the Sabres this season and actually lost to them once. Weren't the Sabres the 31st best team in the league.
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Was he though? I don't recall many (if any) games where Gruby faced multiple odd man rushes? I know the 1st shot was going in a lot on Holtby, then he'd face a couple/three odd man breaks and only stop 1 or 2. A PP goal or two would deflect in and it's a 3-4 goal game your offense has to match.. Don't recall Gruby having to play behind that nonsense much, if at all.. Least not while he's been "hot".. :wackysmile:
I'm certainly glad the D (and Grubs) has looked better the last month or so, but Holtby has looked better right along with them. The more I'm thinking about this the more I'm not seeing a path for Holtby to still be here (willingly) next year.. Unless Gruby gets yanked early in the series and Holtby carries us to a cup.
Scenario A: Gruby does good and we get past the 2nd round.. Holtby accepts he's not the starter anymore and asks to be traded.
Scenario B: Gruby gets the starts and we lose in round 1 or 2 again.. Holby's says thanks for nothing and asks to be traded.
Scenario C: Gruby gets pulled and Holtby takes us deeper than round 2.. Holtby still asks to be traded cause he's pissed he wasn't the starter to begin with..
Scenario D: Grubs is pulled, Holtby takes us to a Cup.. Everyone kisses his ass and all is forgiven. (Though he still might say fuck off) lol
Yes, in your own words the first shot was going in a lot on Holtby. That wasn't happening with Gruby because he was playing better than Holtby at the time. I'm not claiming that overall Gruby is better or that he's the playoff savior. Just saying he was playing better while Holtby was REALLY struggling.
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Yes, in your own words the first shot was going in a lot on Holtby. That wasn't happening with Gruby because he was playing better than Holtby at the time.
Fair point!
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Gotta admit, that I'm a little bit confu-used....
Sometimes it seems to me, as if I'm just being u-used..
Anyone know the lyrics?
Pretty surprised by this decision. Despite my doubts of Holtby which I posted in another thread, I really believed Trotz was going back to him to start game 1. And I liked the idea. I was hoping he would have known he has a short leash and would play inspired. But now it I think it's a desperate move by Trotz and I'm worried. As much as Grubby has played, he still hasn't played as much as Holtby this season. I guess one good thing is neither of them are overworked going into the playoffs.
One thing seems clear, this could be Trotz's last season as well as Holtby's. Unless....unless the unthinkable happens.
I refuse to into the playoffs with no optimism so LETS GO CAPS!
The fulcrum in optimism and delusion is reality. Same as with pessimism and defeatism.
The reality is, this group has very little chance at beating four of the sixteen teams, four out of seven, four times in a row. They are simply not built with a roster physicaly and mentally capable to do it without extraordinary external factors that given said makeup have extremely low probability of happening.
Any thoughts of “the hockey gods will be all on our side”, “we’ll just want it more”, “we’re as good as anyone else”, “in Kuzy and Grubby we trust”, . . is simply delusional and Rockin The Red Kool Aid
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The fulcrum in optimism and delusion is reality. Same as with pessimism and defeatism.
The reality is, this group has very little chance at beating four of the sixteen teams, four out of seven, four times in a row. They are simply not built with a roster physicaly and mentally capable to do it without extraordinary external factors that given said makeup have extremely low probability of happening.
Any thoughts of “the hockey gods will be all on our side”, “we’ll just want it more”, “we’re as good as anyone else”, “in Kuzy and Grubby we trust”, . . is simply delusional and Rockin The Red Kool Aid
This is what I have become, delusional. It's short term though. As soon as May arrives the Caps are usually in the back of my mind and I am back to normal. For now though, I will still drink the red coolaid as long as it is spiked! Makes for a nice coping mechanism.
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This is what I have become, delusional. It's short term though. As soon as May arrives the Caps are usually in the back of my mind and I am back to normal. For now though, I will still drink the red coolaid as long as it is spiked! Makes for a nice coping mechanism.
rum usually goes well with red/fruity artificial water
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This is what I have become, delusional. It's short term though. As soon as May arrives the Caps are usually in the back of my mind and I am back to normal. For now though, I will still drink the red coolaid as long as it is spiked! Makes for a nice coping mechanism.
While your optimism is admirable, it’s the Rock The Red Kool Aid sales that make it ok for ownership not to hire a front office capable of getting past the second round.
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JFour goals, tine to yank him!
Who’s in goal really doesn’t matter with the clown car circus in front of them :clown:
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JFour goals, tine to yank him!
Who’s in goal really doesn’t matter with the clown car circus in front of them :clown:
Well the thing that sucked about last game was that the team wasn't bad defensively other than a couple of breakdowns. Columbus didnt get very many quality scoring chances. We needed our goaltender to make some key saves. Dum mb penalties hurt us. 5 on 5 we weren't bad. The guy that got exploited last night was Orlov.
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Just heard that Trotz has announced Grubauer as the starter in game 2. I don't like this decision at all. If Grubauer plays mediocre like last game and we drop game 2 I can guarantee that they will put the pressure on Holtby to save the day. I hope Grubauer has a better game.
If the decision to start Grubauer in this series fails, I think that will spell the end of Trotz for sure.
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Just heard that Trotz has announced Grubauer as the starter in game 2. I don't like this decision at all. If Grubauer plays mediocre like last game and we drop game 2 I can guarantee that they will put the pressure on Holtby to save the day. I hope Grubauer has a better game.
If the decision to start Grubauer in this series fails, I think that will spell the end of Trotz for sure.
For me it has sense, because if Holtby go and loose the game, we have no confidence in both goalies and they are shaken. Although we need a better game from Grub.
PS: yesterday I have watched Quick (LA vs VGK), that was the man. I'm so impressed.
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Am I the only one bitter about the Caps sitting Holtby games 1 and 2. I can understand game 1 maybe but when that didn't work I was expecting Holtby in game 2. They brought him in 4 goals too late.