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GDT#61 Caps at Panthers Feb 22 at 7:30pm
alta:
--- Quote from: Surreylily on Friday February 23, 2018, 12:28:31 AM Eastern ---
Yeah, I get you. But that doesn't explain our repeated failures.
You want Joe Q. here? Do you actually think he'd come here?
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Him? No.
But every now and and then you can find a good coach that wants a challenge, this lockeroom will definitely be a challenge
KitFisto:
We've had multiple coaches. I love Ovechkin, but he and Backstrom are the constants here. They are the leadership core that hasn't gotten it done. Continuing to retool around them hasn't worked for a decade. No matter the coaches or supporting cast it's simply not happening.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Friday February 23, 2018, 07:02:55 AM Eastern ---We've had multiple coaches. I love Ovechkin, but he and Backstrom are the constants here. They are the leadership core that hasn't gotten it done. Continuing to retool around them hasn't worked for a decade. No matter the coaches or supporting cast it's simply not happening.
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True, but that’s only the surface.
I’m more and more convinced that this culture comes from the top.
If any coach or player absolutely went the hell off on Ovie, be it publicity/privately, benched/or punches thrown, I have no doubt they’d be gone regardless of the reasons or need.
So for any change to be more than marketing , it’s gonna need to start at the top
alta:
this has been bothering me ever since he said it as it doesn't make sense. In last nights pregame ceremony Luongo said he has lived in Parkland(where the shooting happened) for 12 years. So he put down roots at the same time this happened??.....
"Set to become a free agent for the second consecutive off-season, he could not come to an agreement with the Panthers, having formally turned down a five-year, $30 million contract offer in January 2006. It was also reported that among Luongo's demands were that backup goaltender Jamie McLennan be re-signed, his long-time goaltending coach François Allaire be hired and that a public statement be released that he would not be traded until the no-trade clause of his contract took effect."
he was then traded to Vancouver for the 2007 season, where he stayed until 2014 when he was traded back to Florida. Those aren't the kinds of demands a free agent makes when he really wants to stay with his current team.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Friday February 23, 2018, 12:48:00 PM Eastern ---True, but that’s only the surface.
I’m more and more convinced that this culture comes from the top.
If any coach or player absolutely went the hell off on Ovie, be it publicity/privately, benched/or punches thrown, I have no doubt they’d be gone regardless of the reasons or need.
So for any change to be more than marketing , it’s gonna need to start at the top
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I agree. I think the problem starts at the top. Trotz is doing what he can with what he was given. I dont think we have the right personnel and we aren't adding what we need. That's a management issue.
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