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Surreylily:
Thank you fellas. I get it. :) Thank you for taking the time to explain the difference. :hearts:
I pretty much got the NTC The NMC and then the combination of the two had me stumped.....
Education is a wonderfull thing. ;)
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: Surreylily on Sunday June 06, 2021, 12:27:35 AM Eastern ---Thank you fellas. I get it. :) Thank you for taking the time to explain the difference. :hearts:
I pretty much got the NTC The NMC and then the combination of the two had me stumped.....
Education is a wonderfull thing. ;)
--- End quote ---
Kuzy has a modified NTC which restricts WHICH teams the player can not be moved to. Kuzy specifically has a modified No Trade Clause that says he can not be traded to 15 teams. At the beginning of each year He/his agent supply a list of 15 teams that HE will not accept a trade to that season. That's basically 1/2 the NHL teams. This means the Caps can trade him to 15 other teams without consenting him or his agent. The 15 teams (the ones on his No-Trade list for that season) would require the Caps get him/agent to agree to the move by requesting him to waive his no move clause. (This does happen)
Any Player with any type of NMC, NTC must be protected in the expansion Draft. So for the Caps....
Ovie, Carlson, Kuzy, Oshie (Lil's going to love this :hearts: ), Wilson, Orlov all MUST BE protected under this rule. So there's 4 of your protected forwards and 2 of the protected D for the Caps
There is no rule that says teams cannot trade players RIGHT NOW though. the "trade deadline" restriction only prohibits any players moved after the deadline from playing in the playoffs that year. During the Vegas draft, several teams traded for players in the summer specifically to put them on the unprotected list. (of course you need the cap space to do that)
The draft is July 21.
there are other key dates leading up to that, but I could not find the specific dates listed, but for example...
The last day teams can request a player waive his "no move" clause is usually a couple days before the draft actually begins (Vegas date was June 15 for a June 17 draft)
So the Caps could trade Kuzy to 15 teams without asking him, OR request he waive his NTC in order to trade him to other teams, OR ask him to waive it to be eligible for the draft. I am not sure, but I believe if they ask him to waive it for the draft then essentially they are putting him on waivers and someone else could pick him up for nothing (except the cost of his contract)
Also... Seattle CAN make trades PRIOR to the draft (as long as they have paid their final franchise $$$ to the NHL, which I think they did in April)
Lastly - Seattle CAN negotiate with teams PRIOR to the draft to NOT select eligible players. For example, Caps could negotiate with Seattle to NOT select "X" player and though not official until the draft, that player would NOT be selected (in exchange for something...draft picks, other trades, etc) George McPhee did this in Vegas ALOT and got bunches of picks and other players in addition to what happened on draft day. Doing so in secret enabled him to load up on shit from multiple teams. Kind of sneaky, but legal and as he negotiated PRIOR to the draft to NOT select players, he loaded up with essentially free extras. And did it work? I'd say so...make the SC finals in their 1st year (and then lost to the Caps - HELL YEAH) Also advantage, because knowing before the draft what extras already banked, he knew better what he needed to draft for. This made/makes the draft exceptionally overly generous to the expansion team. Seattle has the very same rules to work with, but GM's are probably a bit more weary and savvy now, so doubt Seattle can work as many extra freebies as Vegas did.
alta:
Ovie doesn't need to be protected because he's not currently under contract with a team so he's not eligible for the expansion draft
this is the same game the Caps played with Oshie for the Vegas draft and the league has said the rules this time will be exactly the same
that's why they haven't done anything official about his contract
alta:
the expansion draft is July 21 supposedly live on the t v at 8pm eastern, the teams must submit their protected list by July 17 at 5pm
the 1st round of the regular draft is July 23, also live on the t v at 8pm. an interesting note to that, the Caps don't have a 1st round pick this year because they traded it off to Detroit as part of the Mantha trade, as well as a 2nd round pick next year. That sounds bad for this year but all reports I've seen say this is a weak draft class, meaning the Caps aren't missing anything.
alta:
If this guy played LW this might be interesting, but the Caps don’t need another RW.. even after the Seattle draft.
https://novacapsfans.com/2021/07/07/report-vladimir-tarasenko-requests-trade-from-blues/#more-331379
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