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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2021, 09:01:33 AM »
Le Habitants score in OT to sweep the Jets


Wow,


Good on Montreal.  I only watched the 5 minute recap, but looked like Montreal dominated nearly the entire game.  42 shots to 16.  Hard to tell in a recap, but most of the play looked like Montreal was the better team. 
Price let in what was probably a softie for Jets second goal to tie it in the 2nd.


Crazy, in a normal year they would not even have made the playoffs, being the 18th placed team in the NHL, and now they are in the Western Final
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2021, 10:48:01 AM »
And for the record....I think 4 games (especially 4 playoff games) is excessive for the Sheifele hit.

The DOPS says he chose to hit the player instead of using his stick to try and negate the goal.  Um....the rules don't say you HAVE to use the stick to swat at the puck and NOT hit the guy.  The rules say you can hit the guy carrying the puck.

It was indeed a very hard hit and yes he COULD have avoided hitting him, but Sheifele was hustling back to try and prevent a goal and hit the guy BEHIND the red line, meeting him as he tucked the puck in the net.  By the time there was contact, there was no way the committed hitter could have avoided contact at that point.  He did not lift his hands or target the head or leave his feet.  He lowered his shoulder and turned his shoulder inward and planted it squarely in the guy's chest.
I guess you could call it charging, but the guy was hustling to the play and he hit a player with the puck.  The player with the puck, was not passing it or turning into the boards or anything else he was trying to score.  Sheifele hit a guy WITH THE PUCK.

It was a massive, hard hit, but I don't believe it should have resulted in a 4 game suspension.  Especially for a player who has no history, etc, etc..

The problem is...again....the inconsistent application of the rules of the game. 
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“It is also important to note that we have heard Scheifele’s argument that he gathers speed and maintains momentum in order to make a legitimate defensive play and attempt to prevent a goal from being scored. However, as Evans comes around the net with the puck, Scheifele does not attempt to make a play on the puck with his stick. Instead, he takes one hand off his stick, turns his shoulder and loads up for contact. While players are not required to attempt to play the puck, on this play Scheifele’s choice to not make a play on the puck tells us that he is conceding the empty-net goal.”


He didn't choose to concede the goal...he chose to hit the guy before he tucked it in the net.  He just failed to do so.
Riddle me this DOPS....IF Scheifele had gotten there 1/20 of a second sooner and prevented the goal with the hit, would he still be suspended 4 games?  That makes no sense.  When would be a more important time to hit a guy then when he is about to score a goal? Just because it happened at the goal line, does that make it illegal to hit a guy?  They talk like he hit the guy "well after" the goal was scored, but that BS.  He hits the guy at/behind the red line as the guy is coming around the net.  You slow it down to super slow mo and yeah...the puck goes in before the hit, but it is almost simultaneous and at real speed it's instantaneous.  What you are saying is he should CHOOSE to concede the goal altogether and NOT hit the guy at all.  You are penalizing a guy for pure hustle to try and stop a goal.  Call it charging, which I will concede...."as a result of distance traveled he violently checked an opponent", which by definition is charging.  And for the record....Scheifele was coasting when he hit the guy.

Is the DOPS telling us that a player now has to choose to try and use his stick instead of his body on EVERY play on the ice?

It's not like when Dale Hunter chased a guy down 10 seconds after the goal and cross checked him into the boards. (Pierre Turgeon)
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2021, 12:28:35 PM »
Rich, I agree with your assessment of the Sheifele play, and that DOPS is a fucking joke as they just make things up out of thin air...


like labeling Willy a repeat offender when he hadn't been in trouble in three seasons.
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2021, 08:02:18 PM »
two games tonight and both are on the same channel ...


only the NHL can do this
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2021, 09:06:19 PM »
welp, Tampa advances. I was hoping Carolina was capable of putting up more of fight
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2021, 09:06:45 PM »
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2021, 09:19:53 PM »
of all the places I've been and have considered relocating too, I don't ever see a possibility of me becoming a fan of the Golden Knights. Denver, Raliegh, Tampa, Nashville are possibilities

and I hope Gruby wins


Dallas would be on the list if it wasn't so damn hot in the summer, I've had great times in the west end and in deep ellum
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2021, 09:31:19 PM »
Why would you want to relocate?
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2021, 09:40:29 PM »
Why would you want to relocate?


cost of living in the D.C. area is too high, being this close to the federal government brings too much bullshit with it. I grew up here, the quality of life has definitely gone down in the last 20 years with all the development. I've had dirt bikes in the past, every place I rode them has become a housing development or shopping mall. I used to ride on the farm that became Dulles town center mall. Open/green space was a selling point a long time ago. There isn't much left now.


and I don't like being close enough to my neighbor to hear them fart
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #109 on: June 08, 2021, 09:44:05 PM »
If I did i have only three places in mind.  I love the green, I love the trees and I quite like horses....  I like the rain in Ireland.
   
Scotland.  Scottish pepole in England are arseholes, but in actual Scotland they're very nice.
The only other place would have been Canada, but I've kind of been put off by the couple of asssholes we've had on here.   :(
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #110 on: June 08, 2021, 09:53:09 PM »
Meh.    You're gonna get every type of person in every way, no matter where you go.   The only considerations arre which surroudings you choose.    :-|
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #111 on: June 08, 2021, 09:53:22 PM »
If I did i have only three places in mind.  I love the green, I love the trees and I quite like horses....  I like the rain in Ireland.
   
Scotland.  Scottish pepole in England are arseholes, but in actual Scotland they're very nice.
The only other place would have been Canada, but I've kind of been put off by the couple of asssholes we've had on here.   :(


If I had to change my country of residence, Ireland is in the top two
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #112 on: June 08, 2021, 09:55:18 PM »
Meh.    You're gonna get every type of person in every way, no matter where you go.   The only considerations arre which surroudings you choose.    :-|

yes and no, the kind of person you encounter definitely changes outside of a few select cities in this country.. and you've obviously never been to Nashville or Dallas. Not to disparage the residents of Vegas, they are great people. It's definitely a blue collar town. More so than Shitsburgh.

also...

when we get 2 inches of snow here and the federal government says essential personnel only need to come to work and 500,000 people stay home, that's called a clue
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #113 on: June 08, 2021, 10:04:01 PM »

If I had to change my country of residence, Ireland is in the top two

And the other one???
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #114 on: June 08, 2021, 10:06:22 PM »
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2021, 10:12:44 PM »

I love Kiwi's


Ooooh"  Pretty good call.   I've never net a rotton kiwi.    :hearts:   
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2021, 10:27:07 PM »
the longer this series goes the better Colorado looks
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2021, 10:40:53 PM »
It al seems  a little marshmllow to meso far.
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #118 on: June 08, 2021, 10:42:03 PM »
hold your horses..........
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Re: 2021 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs
« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2021, 12:00:08 AM »
damn, Vegas wins in OT
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