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2021 Trade Deadline and Roster Moves
alta:
This says they announced this just after 3:00, I think their clocks are a tad off. This trade looks good.
https://novacapsfans.com/2021/04/12/report-capitals-acquire-anthony-mantha-from-red-wings-for-jakub-vrana-richard-panik/
not sure about this one
https://novacapsfans.com/2021/04/12/report-capitals-acquire-left-winger-michael-raffl-from-flyers/
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Monday April 12, 2021, 04:57:42 PM Eastern ---The Raffl trade I don't know what the point was.
The Mantha trade initially carried some shock value...primarily because I knew not much about Mantha and saw that we lost one of our young talented guys. And too often have we seen young talented guys not work out here but flourish elsewhere.
But the more I think about it, the more I love it.
Mantha is a big rig who can score.
Vrana was just becoming a total salty sourpuss. Cultural cancer. Him giving zero shits after scoring a GWG is concerning. You need players who are pulling on the rope and who want what's best for the team.
Vrana was also pretty weak on the puck and didn't bring enough of his A-game. We need compete. I'm glad Lavi is making players accountable.
Now get Kuzy to play like the 2018 playoff version of himself.
Edit: My lack of mention about Panik being traded away should tell you all what I think about Panik.
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I didn't know anything about either player but looking ant Mantha - the Caps just got bigger and a whole hell of a lot tougher to play against. I liked Jake, but he was not progressing and he hurt the team most of the time he was on the ice, not to mention if there were off ice whiney issues. (who really knows)
Raffl looks to be a bottom six guy who can kill some penalties and be defensively responsible. Basically a replacement for Panik at about 1/3 of the price.
Other than the draft pics, I really like this move. Bigger, Tougher, AND under contract for 3 years....we were Losing Vrana end of the year anyway- No way we were going to pay him 4+mill to keep him.
How much does it suck for Jake to go from a contender to a bottom feeder team (Sorry DC). Maybe the move will be good for Jake and he finds his game in Detroit.
Now if only I could actually watch the games.... >:(
BlackIce:
The problem with Mantha is that his big problem with Detroit seems to be -- inconsistency and a lack of competitiveness at times. [size=78%]So have we traded Ferrari Vrana for 18-wheeler Vrana? [/size]
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[/size][size=78%]Maybe the Caps suspect that Mantha was getting frustrated by Detroit's lack of recent success, and they figure he will be reinvigorated by the change of scenery. It isn't that Mantha is a big hitter or fighter or anything. I think the price was awfully high, but the prevailing attitude was that the Caps were willing to do whatever it takes to make a splash in the playoffs this year. I'd be happier with the trade if Glendening were coming back in addition to Mantha, but I guess what is, is.[/size]
I keep hearing about the Caps being all in for the Cup again this year, but I don't think that they can be considered anything more than a wildcard in the Stanley Cup playoffs as long as they have zero playoff experience in goal. We really have no clue what we are going to get in net when the regular season ends.
So Mantha is seen as a top 6 scoring winger. If he and Wilson are the top 6 right wings, that would seem to move Oshie down to the 3rd line. Maybe not a bad idea in a way, since Oshie is considered a good defensive player, but the problem is that his offensive output figures to drop off playing with Eller, who has never been a great playmaker. It isn't clear to me that the Caps are upgrading themselves scoring-wise at all.
Maybe they want to try and win the cup by scaring everyone to death with bulk.
BlackIce:
I have no idea how the font got screwed up in my previous post.
richkrt99:
Mantha is a RW but shoots left :huh: (so was Panik I guess)
Wonder where they put him. I would assume top 6 but that means 2/3 of Sheary, Sprong & Oshie will be 3rd line. Oshie makes it work anywhere.
I dig it. I like big manly men type players. This could be really good for playoff hockey.
Now if we could just decide on a netminder....and not allow 3 or more goals a game...
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