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BlackIce:
Rich, there are a couple of things about the draft that are a little uncertain to me, especially given that the expansion draft is in June, when the Caps' season may still be going on (or not, who knows?)


(1)  In addition to who you can protect, there are certain players you MUST expose:  2 forwards under contract through at least 2022 who played at least 40 NHL games this season or 70 NHL games combined the last two seasons; one such defenseman; and a goalie either signed through 2022 or an RFA given a qualifying offer.  (I wonder if these game floor numbers will be reduced given the shortened seasons due to COVID?)


(2)  What happens, if the Caps' season is over, to players such as Vrana and Siegenthaler, who are likely to be unsigned RFA's at the time of the draft.  Are they exempt from selection, or must they be protected in order to assure they are not selected?  Similarly, if Ovie isn't signed as of the time of the draft, what is his status?  Does it depend on whether or not the Caps are still alive in the playoffs?  That doesn't make sense.



Let's start with the goalies.  I assume that the Caps protect Samsonov.  I THINK Vanacek is exempt from the draft, because he is as first-year NHL player (first and second-year players are exempt).  Actually, I think that Copley was given an NHL contract that runs through 2022 so that he can be brought up and be the goalie required to be exposed in the draft.


Next, defense.  Van Riemsdyk was NOT signed to be protected, so he will be a/the qualifying defenseman to be exposed.  Chara will be a UFA and not on the team's radar WRT the draft.  Kempney is off the radar because of his injury status.  That leaves Carlson/Orlov/Dillon/Schultz/Jensen/Siegenthaler.  Rick, assuming you are right about Siegenthaler's status, here is where the tough nut is.  I'd protect Carlson, Dillion, and Siegenthaler and let Orlov hanging out there, but as far as I can tell the coach isn't utterly enthralled with Sieg, and we DO have Fehevary and Alexeyev coming up the pipeline.  I suspect we are going to lose a defenseman when all is said and done.


Finally, forwards.  I don't have a quibble with your selections, except that I don't know what Vrana's status is as an unsigned RFA.  I guess he has to be protected if the Caps want to keep him.  Obviously, with Dowd, Hathaway, Haiglin, Panik, and Sprong all signed through 2022, there is no shortage of qualifying forwards we will leave exposed.  Might Seattle select one of our primo 4th line guys who have been so solid this year?  I sort of doubt it, because these are the types of guys that will be left exposed throughout the league.  Seattle will have all sorts of players like this to select from.  BUT, Dowd, as a center, decent face-off guy, PK guy, might be worth a selection -- will he be better than all the other players of his kind who will be available?  The other threat as a loss might be Sprong, given his resurgence this season, and he's only 24. 


My thoughts, FWIW.

richkrt99:

Ice,


good points.  I admittedly don't know all the details of the rules

Yeah, I'm not sure how Ovi fits with contract, etc, but I can't imagine he isn't protected by the Caps some way some how no matter what.


I agree with you on Orlov and Ziggy.  I wonder IF Orlov can be left unprotected because he DOES have some kind of No Trade Clause?  I don't know how the rules apply.
I could leave him hanging and would be okay if he was selected or not.  I would protect Ziggy then like you said
Ziggy I really like and can't figure why he doesn't play....other than the glut of Dmen we suddenly have this year.  I could also see an argument for protecting Jensen, but I don't think he's all that.  He is having an outstanding year.  How much is growth, coaching, scheme, partner, luck, etc.?  I was lobbying for cutting him and letting Ziggy play early on...Ziggy earned a spot last year IMO.  Jensen is a puck mover though and fits the system.  He has played well, but when it comes to PLAYOFF caliber D-men....Is he what wins a cup?


I chose to protect Dillon because he has been more solid this year and he's kind of old school which I like.  SHultz has or could have injury issues so he's a little more risky to keep.


I forgot about Vitek being so young so I think you are correct and he IS protected which means Copely is signed specifically for that reason of exposing him...good call.


I agree with you that most of our 3/4 line guys -(even though most of them having very good and effective play for us) could be replaced.  Always hard to know/figure the intangibles though.


I thought about Sprong, but he is young and a bit unproven.  He is quick and man he has an Ovi-like release on his shot.  Depending on what the ultimate status ends up with Vrana, I could protect Sprong.


Honestly I think the Caps are better off this draft than the Vegas one because we have less "prime young" talent hanging out there..  We lost Schmidt who I liked, but I can't say I would have protected him over Nisky THAT year.  We needed Nisky I think more than Schmidt (calm down Lil) ;)



alta:
The league has said the rules for this expansion draft will be exactly the same as the Vegas draft.


I still don't think I protect Carlson, and hope Seatle takes that contract off our hands

richkrt99:

--- Quote from: alta on Monday March 22, 2021, 08:49:33 PM Eastern ---The league has said the rules for this expansion draft will be exactly the same as the Vegas draft.


I still don't think I protect Carlson, and hope Seatle takes that contract off our hands

--- End quote ---


Shame on you.  He is the golden boy of offensive defensemen.  Our own true Norris candidate.


WTF ever his name was from Canada who used to post here and explode every time anyone would infer anything negative about Johnny Q Carlson is rolling over in his virtual message board grave about now.



alta:

--- Quote from: richkrt99 on Monday March 22, 2021, 09:06:33 PM Eastern ---
Shame on you.  He is the golden boy of offensive defensemen.  Our own true Norris candidate.


WTF ever his name was from Canada who used to post here and explode every time anyone would infer anything negative about Johnny Q Carlson is rolling over in his virtual message board grave about now.

--- End quote ---


Even if the NHL didn't freeze the salary cap for at least two years because of the wuhan, it would be a bad contract.

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