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Capitals off season moves and draft picks
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Friday October 09, 2020, 05:12:02 PM Eastern ---I thought the 8.6 mil was per year.. :huh: 4.3 x 2?? That's not really what I was expecting for a Vezina/Stanley Cup winning goalie.. He must of really wanted out or the Caps really -wanted- him out.
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It wasn't a matter of who did or didn't want who at all. It was a perfect storm: Holtby suffered from (1) his own performance decline of the past couple of years; (2) Bobrovsky's implosion after his huge contract; and (3) the salary cap apparently staying flat for the next couple of years.
Given other moves they wanted to make, the Caps couldn't have afforded $4.3 million for Holtby. Heck, they're squeezed as it is with Lundqvist on board for $1.5 million.
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: alta on Friday October 09, 2020, 05:31:09 PM Eastern ---the Hens have shed more payroll...
:huh:
https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/09/report-capitals-agree-to-two-year-contract-with-justin-schultz/
this makes no sense to me...
"The 30-year-old defenseman recorded three goals, 12 points, and a -13 rating in 46 games with the Pittsburgh Penguins last season. In 482 career games with the Penguins and Edmonton Oilers, Schultz has recorded 50 goals, 214 points, and a -35 rating."
in fact, this looks like a really bad move. As I've said before, I don't expect a lot of goals from a good defenseman, but that career minus 35 coming from two very recient Cup winning seasons in shitsburgh is atrocious
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Have you actually looked at Schultz's year by year stats?
His +/- is largely driven by his struggling first 4 years with a terrible Edmonton team. Then he had 3 good years in Pittsburgh, and a -13 this past part season before COVID hit.
You may not be happy, but the Caps were after a right shot defenseman to slot into the number 2 pairing. This was who they chose. The question is, was there a better option out there for that particular roster spot? (And it IS a question. I don't know off the top of my head who the other options in FA are/were.)
LaViolette is said to like puck-moving defensemen, and Schultz apparently qualifies as that. The point is, look at the guys on the left side: Dillon, Orlov, Siegenthaler, Fehervary, Alexeyev. Of them, only Orlov is really (to whatever extent) a puck-mover. And even he might benefit from being able to concentrate more on his own zone and worry less about moving the puck up the ice. Maybe Fehervary would qualify as a puck-mover at some point, but he's still young and would benefit in the short term from focusing on his own zone. So if you're looking for balanced offensive/defensive pairings, most of the puck-moving needs to come from the right side.
alta:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Saturday October 10, 2020, 08:22:39 AM Eastern ---
Have you actually looked at Schultz's year by year stats?
His +/- is largely driven by his struggling first 4 years with a terrible Edmonton team. Then he had 3 good years in Pittsburgh, and a -13 this past part season
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now why didn't I think to look at his year by year ::)
does that three good years in shitsburgh include the last two injury ridden ones? including a broken leg
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Friday October 09, 2020, 05:31:43 PM Eastern ---
It wasn't a matter of who did or didn't want who at all. It was a perfect storm: Holtby suffered from (1) his own performance decline of the past couple of years; (2) Bobrovsky's implosion after his huge contract; and (3) the salary cap apparently staying flat for the next couple of years.
Given other moves they wanted to make, the Caps couldn't have afforded $4.3 million for Holtby. Heck, they're squeezed as it is with Lundqvist on board for $1.5 million.
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Yeah, I mean I get it from the Capitals perspective entirely and I know Holtby has declined. I did not expect or want the Caps to sign him, but I was surprised at the relatively low number, especially for a short two year term. I mean it's fair enough number in the market I guess, but that is certainly not a player friendly free agent deal.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: alta on Saturday October 10, 2020, 01:24:53 PM Eastern ---
now why didn't I think to look at his year by year ::)
does that three good years in shitsburgh include the last two injury ridden ones? including a broken leg
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Well the real story is we agreed to take him offsetting Shitsburgh hiring TR :snicker:
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