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Re: Capitals off season personnel moves
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday October 07, 2020, 05:41:36 PM Eastern »
Dillon is ok, but I'm not all that excited about him.  I think Kempney is done.  He had a good year for us in our Cup year, so I wish him well.


The draft is interesting.  We take a risk on a high talent kid with injury issues.  All the commentators were saying what a great move it was, but a lot of teams passed on this guy and we certainly don't have a deep farm system to be taking chances on first rounders - plus we had to trade away a pick to move up a couple spots to get him.  I hope I'm proven wrong and thirs kid is a steal.
Same Ol’ Same Ol’.   High “Talent”, fuck all to anything and everything else.  Alex Semin really is one of the faces of our franchise.

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Re: Capitals off season personnel moves
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday October 07, 2020, 06:43:50 PM Eastern »
Caps pick a RW..

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/07/capitals-select-bogdan-trineyev-with-117th-overall-pick-at-2020-nhl-draft/

Caps pick a center..

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/07/capitals-pick-center-bear-hughes-148th-overall-at-2020-nhl-draft/

Caps pick a goalie..

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/07/capitals-pick-gavin-bjorklund-179th-overall-at-nhl-draft/

Caps pick a center/RW..

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/07/capitals-draft-oskar-magnusson-211th-overall/

so far all these draft picks look like they are going to need 2-3 years to develop...
 and the more I look at them, honestly I'd be surprised if we see more than a flash at the top level
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Re: Capitals off season personnel moves
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday October 07, 2020, 06:59:37 PM Eastern »

Ooh Fah.  Kempney is one of them there Frenchie types "Fragile"


Hopefully explains why he sucked last year.


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Re: Capitals off season personnel moves
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday October 07, 2020, 07:31:40 PM Eastern »
Caps make offers to current players..

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/07/capitals-tender-qualifying-offers-to-jonas-siegenthaler-shane-gersich-but-not-travis-boyd/


You got to get Ziggy back in.  He was one of our best, and has the most upside.  Size, strength, youth, some experience.


Boyd you let walk.  Like the guy, but we have 5 of him.  Seriously, no offense, but he could not regularly crack the lineup so you let him walk.  Or sign him cheap and dump one of the other 5 of him we have.  But why would he return on the cheap if he could do better elsewhere.







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Re: Capitals off season personnel moves
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday October 07, 2020, 07:35:43 PM Eastern »
So they'd give up Holtby at $10m a year and pay Lundqvist $9m???


I guess maybe you could get him at a very short term deal???





Would you want to?




The Caps won't pay Lundqvist anything like the salary he was getting previously.  Maybe a couple million.  These guys that are bought out get the majority of their remaining salary - teams do it for the salary cap relief.  Then they sign at a lower rate somewhere else (because the reason they are bought out is because of slippage/subpar performance), but their total compensation remains comparable to what they were receiving previously.

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #26 on: Friday October 09, 2020, 02:21:48 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #27 on: Friday October 09, 2020, 04:10:51 PM Eastern »
Holtby took a $2million pay cut to sign a 2 year deal in Free Agency?  WTF?
$4.3m for Holtby on a short term deal (2 years) is a steal for Vancouver.  Who the F is Holtby's agent?  This is the best he could get for Holtby?


I mean last year were were talking like he would fetch twice this.

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #28 on: Friday October 09, 2020, 05:12:02 PM Eastern »
I thought the 8.6 mil was per year.. :huh:  4.3 x 2?? That's not really what I was expecting for a Vezina/Stanley Cup winning goalie.. He must of really wanted out or the Caps really -wanted- him out.

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #29 on: Friday October 09, 2020, 05:31:09 PM Eastern »
the Hens have shed more payroll...

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https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/09/report-capitals-agree-to-two-year-contract-with-justin-schultz/

this makes no sense to me...

"The 30-year-old defenseman recorded three goals, 12 points, and a -13 rating in 46 games with the Pittsburgh Penguins last season. In 482 career games with the Penguins and Edmonton Oilers, Schultz has recorded 50 goals, 214 points, and a -35 rating."

in fact, this looks like a really bad move. As I've said before, I don't expect a lot of goals from a good defenseman, but that career minus 35 coming from two very recient Cup winning seasons in shitsburgh is atrocious
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #30 on: Friday October 09, 2020, 05:31:43 PM Eastern »
I thought the 8.6 mil was per year.. :huh:  4.3 x 2?? That's not really what I was expecting for a Vezina/Stanley Cup winning goalie.. He must of really wanted out or the Caps really -wanted- him out.




It wasn't a matter of who did or didn't want who at all.  It was a perfect storm:  Holtby suffered from (1) his own performance decline of the past couple of years; (2) Bobrovsky's implosion after his huge contract; and (3) the salary cap apparently staying flat for the next couple of years.


Given other moves they wanted to make, the Caps couldn't have afforded $4.3 million for Holtby.  Heck, they're squeezed as it is with Lundqvist on board for $1.5 million.

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #31 on: Saturday October 10, 2020, 08:22:39 AM Eastern »
the Hens have shed more payroll...

 :huh:

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/09/report-capitals-agree-to-two-year-contract-with-justin-schultz/

this makes no sense to me...

"The 30-year-old defenseman recorded three goals, 12 points, and a -13 rating in 46 games with the Pittsburgh Penguins last season. In 482 career games with the Penguins and Edmonton Oilers, Schultz has recorded 50 goals, 214 points, and a -35 rating."

in fact, this looks like a really bad move. As I've said before, I don't expect a lot of goals from a good defenseman, but that career minus 35 coming from two very recient Cup winning seasons in shitsburgh is atrocious




Have you actually looked at Schultz's year by year stats?


His +/- is largely driven by his struggling first 4 years with a terrible Edmonton team.  Then he had 3 good years in Pittsburgh, and a -13 this past part season before COVID hit. 


You may not be happy, but the Caps were after a right shot defenseman to slot into the number 2 pairing.  This was who they chose.  The question is, was there a better option out there for that particular roster spot?  (And it IS a question.  I don't know off the top of my head who the other options in FA are/were.)


LaViolette is said to like puck-moving defensemen, and Schultz apparently qualifies as that.  The point is, look at the guys on the left side:  Dillon, Orlov, Siegenthaler, Fehervary, Alexeyev.  Of them, only Orlov is really (to whatever extent) a puck-mover.  And even he might benefit from being able to concentrate more on his own zone and worry less about moving the puck up the ice.  Maybe Fehervary would qualify as a puck-mover at some point, but he's still young and would benefit in the short term from focusing on his own zone.  So if you're looking for balanced offensive/defensive pairings, most of the puck-moving needs to come from the right side.

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #32 on: Saturday October 10, 2020, 01:24:53 PM Eastern »



Have you actually looked at Schultz's year by year stats?


His +/- is largely driven by his struggling first 4 years with a terrible Edmonton team.  Then he had 3 good years in Pittsburgh, and a -13 this past part season



now why didn't I think to look at his year by year   ::)


does that three good years in shitsburgh include the last two injury ridden ones? including a broken leg
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #33 on: Saturday October 10, 2020, 02:00:01 PM Eastern »



It wasn't a matter of who did or didn't want who at all.  It was a perfect storm:  Holtby suffered from (1) his own performance decline of the past couple of years; (2) Bobrovsky's implosion after his huge contract; and (3) the salary cap apparently staying flat for the next couple of years.


Given other moves they wanted to make, the Caps couldn't have afforded $4.3 million for Holtby.  Heck, they're squeezed as it is with Lundqvist on board for $1.5 million.


Yeah, I mean I get it from the Capitals perspective entirely and I know Holtby has declined.  I did not expect or want the Caps to sign him, but I was surprised at the relatively low number, especially for a short two year term.  I mean it's fair enough number in the market I guess, but that is certainly not a player friendly free agent deal.





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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #34 on: Saturday October 10, 2020, 02:02:33 PM Eastern »

now why didn't I think to look at his year by year   ::)


does that three good years in shitsburgh include the last two injury ridden ones? including a broken leg


Well the real story is we agreed to take him offsetting Shitsburgh hiring TR  :snicker:
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #36 on: Saturday October 10, 2020, 07:36:11 PM Eastern »
I think we signed Trevor Van Riemsdyk. I was checking out the Caps salary cap page and noticed he appeared...

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #37 on: Saturday October 10, 2020, 07:39:11 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #38 on: Sunday October 11, 2020, 10:11:37 AM Eastern »
Henrik Lundqvist - I give this signing a solid B. Definitely not my ideal goalie signing because I feel like this guy brings more "veteran experience" and "brand name recognition" than actual, game-stealing ability. But when taking into consideration our limited cap space and when considering the pool of UFA goalies, getting Lundqvist for $1.5M is probably the best move we could have done. He can split games with Samsonov, but I'd still consider our goalie situation somewhat uncertainty. Does Sammy bounce back from injury and continue his solid play/growth from last year? Does Lundqvist still perform solidly or does age cause him to continue his decline?

Justin Schultz - I give this signing maybe a C. It feels like a lot of money to pay for a player who has a lot of uncertainty around him.

Trevor van Riemsdyk - I give this signing a B+. He's not going to blow you away with his skills, but we got him at a bargain bin price of $800k. He seems to be a solid bottom pair right handed defenseman. Can move the puck, which should fit with Lavi's style.

Our defense corps is now Carlson, Orlov, Dillon, Schultz, Jensen, van Riemsdyk, Siegenthaler (not signed officially but RFA we're trying to sign), Fehervary. Kempny is injured and I wish we could just get rid of the guy. It doesn't feel like the most spectacular defense, but I'm willing to see if Schultz and TvR can prove themselves.

We now need a 4th line forward and could probably aim to replace either Hags or Panik for someone who can bring offense to the 3rd line. Hopefully GMBM is aiming to make those moves soon.


As of today, the most exciting move we've made during the offseason is hiring Lavi. I think that was the move that has the most potential to help us take that next step. None of the signings we've made above are game changers

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #39 on: Sunday October 11, 2020, 12:58:50 PM Eastern »
another D, right handed, has a total of 70 NHL games

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/10/capitals-sign-defenseman-paul-ladue/
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