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canadiancapman:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday February 20, 2020, 03:53:13 PM Eastern ---For his cap hit, we could have 2, maybe 3 centers to result in just as many points, and way less mistakes, turnovers, face off losses, as we got for the EA level contract we gave Suzy.
Sure Suzy will help Ovie get 900 more than Bergeroin, Larkin, Kopitar, or Toews might. But on no fuckin planet that has anything more than a 12yo CoEd rec league is Suzy any where near the level of any of them
Suzy is here for Ovies record, not for Cups. If the Caps only wanted Cups, they’d of spent the cap space better
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When he brings his "A" game he's a top 20 player in the league. Are you going to deny he didn't deserved the Conn Smyth when we won? Larkin? Are you kidding me right now? To put him in the same category as the other 3 you mentioned is a joke and shows your bias to Detroit. The only good thing about Detroit right now is their new rink. Also look at kopitar and toews contracts, their contracts are the reason both LA and Chicago are in the bottom half of the league.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: waynerivers on Thursday February 20, 2020, 05:53:46 PM Eastern ---I read on RMNB that the Caps may be interested in bringing Green back. :huh: I'm hoping this is just BS being floated by somebody with no knowledge. Green is EXACTLY the type of guy we do NOT need. He doesn't even have any offensive skills left to speak of. (10 points, -30 +/-) I'd much rather have Jensen and that's saying something. I also don't think Siegenthaler should be scratched for Dillon. I'd sit Jensen, Orlov or Kempny ahead of him.
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Amen Brother (on Green)
Amen Brother (on Ziggs). Although....I think the Caps have no intention of letting Ziggy go, because he has showed so much promise and he is hugely cap friendly right now. He is the very best bargain D the Caps have right now and has played as well as any of the D this year. I think they sit him due to his age and IF they are contemplating trading Jensen/Kempny/Orlov, sitting them would look bad or devalue them (if that's possible)
I think they will hold onto Kempny. Time will tell if he can recover to what we hope was true form (and not a career year last year).
I had high hopes for Orlov (over the last 4 years), but he just isn't progressing or performing anywhere near his contract/cap hit. Trading Orlov...or more accurately unloading his contract would have the biggest impact and give the most flexibility to the Caps moving forward. I'd be okay with unloading him and giving Ziggy a spot and giving Fevergetter a shot at real playing time.
Dillon will be a welcome addition to some much needed D skills, but he's just a rental (unless we unload Orlov). Fucking Orlov makes roughly the same as Willy.....with about 1/10 the impact or potential. You could go out and buy a real D with Orlov money.
Go Caps
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: canadiancapman on Thursday February 20, 2020, 03:03:20 PM Eastern ---Dillon is a great pick up. That's who I wanted GMBM to get and glad he did. We had the toughest team in the league before this and now we've added more grit. We'll be a tough team to play in the playoffs as much as you haters don't want to admit it. Try watching other teams. Everyone has weaknesses. For all you Kuznetsov haters out there give your head a shake. We've struggled mightily without him and much as you don't want to admit it. The guy should have won the Conn Smyth when we won the cup. They gave it to Ovie because the league wants their superstars to get the recognition. Same reason Crosby won when Kessel should have.
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Hey Capman!
“We’ll be a tough team to play in the playoffs as much as YOU HATERS don’t want to admit it.”
So, your view is that the group of Caps fans, here, who DONT feel, at this point, that we will be a “TOUGH” team to play in the playoffs, just can’t bring ourselves to admit it, AND, are HATERS??
Secondly....”For all you Kuznetsov haters out there, give your head a shake. We’ve STRUGGLED MIGHTILY without him and as much as you don’t want to admit it.”
Well, the Caps have “struggled mightily”, generally speaking, since mid-December! (yes, Kuzy was also on the ice)!
Additionally, one of the few positives lately WAS Oshie, on a tear, with his best goal scoring hot streak of the season!!
BTW, Oshies goals, Lo and Behold, occurred right, smack-dab, in the middle of Kuzys ABSENCE, on the 2nd line, with Eller assuming Kuzys duties!
Not your best and brightest post, Capman!
Not so much the substance, but more, the condescending delivery of it.
Constructing the statement of your opinion, into a framework, where just “A”, or “B”, are the only, limited, choices, that YOU state, is ridiculous.
Where “A” = Is your opinion
And “B” = Assumes those who disagree, with your opinion, are HATERS, AND (that we may not even realize we agree with you, BUT, just can’t bring ourselves to admit it)! HOLY MOLY, MAN!
Come on, guy! I’ll admit I don’t even know you, I may have posted with you once or twice, I’m not sure. But the little I’ve seen of your prior posts have been fairly informative! So what gives??
Anyway, for the record, I HAVE spoken negatively of Kuzy, for reasons I feel, that I can justify. I’m also not a Kuzy hater, as a result.
Also, when I think of the ENTIRE capitals defensive game since mid December, The two words that DEFINITELY DO NOT come to mind, are “Tough” and “Grit”! Again, for reasons I feel I can justify!
And yes, I do NOT believe, as a result, that they WILL, necessarily, be a “tough team to play in the playoffs”, either! And, I’m also not a CAPS hater, because of it.
Folks can have differing opinions, and NOT be haters, for their disagreement!
Hell....We can even AGREE to DISAGREE, continue to respect one another, and it’s still ALL GOOD!👍
(Damn, I’m gettin’ kinda soft in my 60’s)😁
Be cool, and God Bless,
Rush
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: canadiancapman on Thursday February 20, 2020, 06:26:17 PM Eastern ---
When he brings his "A" game he's a top 20 player in the league. Are you going to deny he didn't deserved the Conn Smyth when we won? Larkin? Are you kidding me right now? To put him in the same category as the other 3 you mentioned is a joke and shows your bias to Detroit. The only good thing about Detroit right now is their new rink. Also look at kopitar and toews contracts, their contracts are the reason both LA and Chicago are in the bottom half of the league.
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in the KHL or a coed Rec league maybe. But not in a league that requires strength, brains and intensity. The result being a complete two way player. Kopitar and Toews have multiple Cups and Finals appearances, and are regular Selke nominees and/or winners. Larkin doesn’t play with on a team that has Ovie and “Johnny Norris” to pad his stats, he has willing taken on being a REAL plAyer by exceeding in all aspects and situations.
Conn Smythe? Maybe after Ovi (of course), Holts, Nick, Wilson, or Oshie. All of which did more to win the Cup, despite the “stat sheet”
At 27, he’s a center with a 7.5 mil cap hit that still can’t break 50% faceoffs, can’t shut down top centers, routinely commits multiple turnovers and mistakes, and can’t play the PK. That’s not good enough
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: waynerivers on Thursday February 20, 2020, 05:53:46 PM Eastern ---I read on RMNB that the Caps may be interested in bringing Green back. :huh: I'm hoping this is just BS being floated by somebody with no knowledge. Green is EXACTLY the type of guy we do NOT need. He doesn't even have any offensive skills left to speak of. (10 points, -30 +/-) I'd much rather have Jensen and that's saying something. I also don't think Siegenthaler should be scratched for Dillon. I'd sit Jensen, Orlov or Kempny ahead of him.
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It’s believable and possible. The Captain may very well take Jensen and his contract back to help rebuild there D, and it would be a favorable fit for the duration of his contract.
If we had Green back, we’d have the ingredients for Power Play evil. Hes also improved his D about tenfold since he left the Caps.
The key would be resigning Green, as if we moved him for Jensen, we’d only have two RHDs signed .
Also, this wouldn’t be a move for the playoffs, it’s be a move for Ovies push for the record. Brining Green back would sure help that, though would assuredly NOT help us in the playoffs
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