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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #120 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:02:26 PM Eastern »
    Not our worst option though.


No...he's definitely a threat to drive that coffin nail.  But he's like a minus 13.  The worst +/- on the team, which is hard when you consider how many points he is on for.


So then.... not sure WHO would be a worse option statistically speaking  (maybe....Johnny Q Norris  :snicker: [size=78%])[/size]



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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #121 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:03:34 PM Eastern »
14 yrs ago today, OV scored "the goal" that had me become at first an OV fan but now I'm a caps fan.


Recreate some of that magic OV!


Holy shit...it was 3-1 isles when I said this.


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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #122 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:03:42 PM Eastern »
    Not our worst option though.

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #123 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:07:23 PM Eastern »

Eh.


I'm sure he'd be happy having his name on the cup, again, even if as a backup
     Do you think they have a team that can win the cup? Yes they have the talent. Probably the most talented team in the league. But are they disciplined enough defensively to succeed in the playoffs?

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #124 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:09:13 PM Eastern »
     Do you think they have a team that can win the cup? Yes they have the talent. Probably the most talented team in the league. But are they disciplined enough defensively to succeed in the playoffs?


so far, this is looking just like the Cup year with the midseason slump and Holts in a slump
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #125 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:11:17 PM Eastern »
will have to watch the nhl news tonight, the past two days has been nothing but Sindy news.




I’ve also noticed none of our announcers have said the word Norris in a while
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #126 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:13:15 PM Eastern »

Sometimes a timely save can spark the team. Sammy made (2) 10 bellr's to start the 3rd and they were off.. Holtby can't stop a beach ball at the moment. Team probably gets deflated.


There is absolutely something to that.  You have to have confidence in your netminder.

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #127 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:29:04 PM Eastern »
So regarding WHO should be on the ice with a one goal lead....


For me...defensively responsibly speaking....


Ziggy and Gudas on D for sure (+24, +10)
And either Eller line  (+5, +9, +6)
or Dowds line (+11, +7, +7)


Ovi is a -13.  He has 47P, minus 19PPP means he has -13 with 28P at ES...meaning he is on the ice for 41GA
Subtract a player's P at ES from his +/- and shows how many NET GA he is on for by the other team


Net GA for each player/line:  SO the higher the number, the worse your net GA is....
 
Ovi 41
Backy 28
Willy 22


Eller 18
Hags 4
Panik 1


Dowd -1
Leipsic 3
Hathy 5


Kempny 7
Carlson 25


Orlov 9
Jensen 7


Gudas -10
Ziggy  -1


Now I realize this is just a basic measure and does not reflect what lines the guys are playing against, but it does show some measure of relative positive and negative impact on opponent's ability (or at least statistical history) to score.


Like I said....Gudas and Ziggy for sure (who both have played far above my expectations this year)
and probably the Dowd line.




Whatever, I'll take the win and be happy


Now I guess I have to go home and actually watch the game.

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #128 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:31:46 PM Eastern »

Sorry....should have put this in the boredom thread  :pointdown:

So regarding WHO should be on the ice with a one goal lead....


For me...defensively responsibly speaking....


Ziggy and Gudas on D for sure (+24, +10)
And either Eller line  (+5, +9, +6)
or Dowds line (+11, +7, +7)


Ovi is a -13.  He has 47P, minus 19PPP means he has -13 with 28P at ES...meaning he is on the ice for 41GA
Subtract a player's P at ES from his +/- and shows how many NET GA he is on for by the other team


Net GA for each player/line:  SO the higher the number, the worse your net GA is....
 
Ovi 41
Backy 28
Willy 22


Eller 18
Hags 4
Panik 1


Dowd -1
Leipsic 3
Hathy 5


Kempny 7
Carlson 25


Orlov 9
Jensen 7


Gudas -10
Ziggy  -1


Now I realize this is just a basic measure and does not reflect what lines the guys are playing against, but it does show some measure of relative positive and negative impact on opponent's ability (or at least statistical history) to score.


Like I said....Gudas and Ziggy for sure (who both have played far above my expectations this year)
and probably the Dowd line.




Whatever, I'll take the win and be happy


Now I guess I have to go home and actually watch the game.
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #129 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:34:22 PM Eastern »
     Do you think they have a team that can win the cup? Yes they have the talent. Probably the most talented team in the league. But are they disciplined enough defensively to succeed in the playoffs?
I do. When these guys are playing full steam they are seemingly unstoppable.  If we stay healthy and somewhat rested we have a shot at another cup.  As crappy as we've seen them play they are still dominating the standings.
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #130 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:43:09 PM Eastern »
Damn Ovies “on pace” for 61. . .


He won't get 60, but I'd love for him to hit 50+ again.  I think he will.


Hell, if he gets 20 more this year for 54, that would put him at 712 he could nearly catch Jagr at 766 next year (with another 54G year)


I think Ovi will catch Gordie at 801 before he retires.  He would only need about 90 more after this season.  I think he can average 30 over the next three seasons if he stays healthy
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #131 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 04:54:50 PM Eastern »
And Sammy now has a 2.06 GAA and .927 SV%


that's 1st and 5th in the NHL
and there are three guys just ahead of him tied with .929 SV%.  That's 2/1000ths difference in SV%
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #132 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 05:14:36 PM Eastern »
will have to watch the nhl news tonight, the past two days has been nothing but Sindy news.



Yeah, I heard his team mates all love him so much because he has such "soft hands"  :P


Apparently they were not too soft to rub all the hair off Pierre's head  ;)
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #133 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 06:11:46 PM Eastern »

Yeah, I heard his team mates all love him so much because he has such "soft hands"  :P


Apparently they were not too soft to rub all the hair off Pierre's head  ;)


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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #134 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 06:46:27 PM Eastern »

He won't get 60, but I'd love for him to hit 50+ again.  I think he will.


Hell, if he gets 20 more this year for 54, that would put him at 712 he could nearly catch Jagr at 766 next year (with another 54G year)


I think Ovi will catch Gordie at 801 before he retires.  He would only need about 90 more after this season.  I think he can average 30 over the next three seasons if he stays healthy

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #135 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 06:54:46 PM Eastern »

He won't get 60, but I'd love for him to hit 50+ again.  I think he will.


Hell, if he gets 20 more this year for 54, that would put him at 712 he could nearly catch Jagr at 766 next year (with another 54G year)


I think Ovi will catch Gordie at 801 before he retires.  He would only need about 90 more after this season.  I think he can average 30 over the next three seasons if he stays healthy
He’s maintained his  .6 GPG, Gretzky didn’t get more than 30 when after he was 35.  It’s a stretch, but it’s in reach. (at .6 GPG it will take him 5 seasons, maybe 6 as he’ll be pushing 40, to catch Gretzky)


Getting another Cup in 5yrs will be very tough, but challenging Gretzky would make Kuzy and Carlys overpaid contracts somewhat forgiven


But, Ovies a way better player than Jager ever was, and he was productive well after 40

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #136 on: Saturday January 18, 2020, 11:45:30 PM Eastern »
I do. When these guys are playing full steam they are seemingly unstoppable.  If we stay healthy and somewhat rested we have a shot at another cup.  As crappy as we've seen them play they are still dominating the standings.


True AJ, but the catch is, Our guys are SO good, that if they CONSISTENTLY commit to “playing full steam”, they would SURELY win the cup, IMO! No question!!


If we follow the basic observations on how this team can be SO good, and then appear SO bad and deenergized, then the old “They dial it in when THEY want” theory makes complete sense.
They are simply at that good of a level, so as to stay at the top of the division, as they monitor their progress! WHEN THEY WANT!!.....SO.....


Rierden made a good, and also properly predictable decision, to put Sammy in!  Whether the Caps  would have had an offensive onslaught or not, the decision was proper!


To suggest, (and I’m not saying you, AJ, personally), that Rierden had some “Clairvoyant” moment where he knew that his decision to go with Sammy in the 3rd, would help “SPARK”, the team and get them going, TO THE LEVEL AT TODAYS 3rd period,  is completely contrary to what we observe, with Rierden, when the Caps pull that unmotivated, lack of care, sloppy, hockey crap that frustrates us ALL to no end!


Sure, changing goalies IS used as an overall, general motivator, when the team needs a lift, but it is JUST THAT,....generally motivating!


NOT, the TOTALLY COMPREHENSIVE INTENSITY of THIS type of 3rd period domination!
Maybe even elevated, early on, as Mick alluded to, with Sammy’s two great saves, but still, I think it is born out of the fickleness of WHENEVER, these guys, CHOOSE to turn it on HEAVY!!
My point:


NOBODY KNOWS WHY THE BOYS DECIDE TO TURN IT ON...EXCEPT THEMSELVES!!! And their NOT going to let ANYONE ELSE find out!
Because then they would lose the freedom to CONTROL, generally, the CONVENIENCE of not having to work as hard, when they DONT WANT TO!! ( Their abundant talent spoils them this way, as they can still hold onto the top of the Metro div).


Rierden has NO clue WHATSOEVER, about how to correct it!! (Sorry to disagree, Black).
And if someone attempts to make the case, using tonight’s game as an example, of Rierdens goalie replacement, (a good move), as him having some kind of “inkling”, or “know how”, that it may have lead to the offensive onslaught we witnessed in the 3rd period.......


Well I would strongly disagree, and say as evidence then; Where was Coach Rierdens talent for “motivational skills”, for nearly a MONTH, from mid Dec 2019, through the first week or two of Jan 2020 ??   When they were looking flat as a pancake, and lost 6 out of 12!!  My God, they’re probably the only team that could play that lackadaisically, and actually WIN the other half of those same 6 out of 12!!


Our spoiled-ass, yet, extremely talented players, really DO call the shots!! As far as WHEN they’re going to show up!  This answers so much of the mystery of the whole subject, IMO!!  And we can’t do a darn thing about it!!! BECAUSE......


Even though IT REAKS of a lack of those old-timed, character issues!


THEY STILL WIN!! and by that definition, THEY ARE WINNERS!!


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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #137 on: Sunday January 19, 2020, 02:04:45 AM Eastern »
The sooner we stop with the delusional Holtby is our starter bullshit, the better of we'll be. Holtby has done 0 this season to win us games. Sammy has done the job each time when called upon. Play the hot hand. When Sammy slumps see if Holts has got it again. But from now on, Sammy should be thought of as our starter.

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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #138 on: Sunday January 19, 2020, 02:27:51 AM Eastern »
I am not saying I necessarily believe this, but let me throw it out there.
Maybe the Capitals know they cannot afford to go full steam all the time or they will run out of it come the playoffs. Especially with plenty older guys leading the team.  As you pointed out Rush, the Caps are a winning team and sit at the top of the NHL standings. It's enough at this point to put us in a most favorable position heading into the post season.
We are in great shape. We are healthy. And we have the firepower to SLAM other (good) teams, even from deep deficits almost at will.
Hell, our Vezina and Cup winning goalie is in a slump and we have a record breaking young fresh backup to fill in.

I would not trade this position with any other team in the NHL right now.As Caps fans we might be a tad spoiled.    :uh-huh:
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Re: G49 Capitals @ Islanders 1:00pm Sat Jan 18, 2020 NBCSWA, ESPN+, MSG+
« Reply #139 on: Sunday January 19, 2020, 11:27:06 AM Eastern »

No...he's definitely a threat to drive that coffin nail.  But he's like a minus 13.  The worst +/- on the team, which is hard when you consider how many points he is on for.


So then.... not sure WHO would be a worse option statistically speaking  (maybe....Johnny Q Norris  :snicker: [size=78%])[/size]


The plus minus statistic is misleading.  One reason Ovie has the worst +/- is that he gets a minus when we give up a short handed goal and he is on the ice which is generally the case.  Also he gets a minus when we pull our goalie and the other team scores although he gets a plus when we pull our goalie and we score so that may even out.  I have no problem putting Ovie out there at the end of the game protecting a one goal lead.