GDT G5 Capitals @ Predators 8:00pm Thu Oct 10, 2019 NBCSWA, FS-TN

[alta]

too many turn overs

[ArJunaZ]

too many turn overs

Ya think?   

[apace41]

4 goals in the 3rd.  Nice.  We've sucked in every third period so far.  Are they out of shape?

[apace41]

Very hard to watch this night after night.

[alta]

4 goals in the 3rd.  Nice.  We've sucked in every third period so far.  Are they out of shape?

the team we have seen since opening night only played one preseason game, I'd say yes

[alta]

pathetic 3rd period




GO NATS

[Mickstix]

Pathetic.. Show me Samsonov in Dallas, please..

[ArJunaZ]

Caps lose on many turnovers and mistakes. Holtby was a bit less Holtby than usual too.

[apace41]

Just fucking horrible to take a 2 goal lead into the 3rd and come away with zero points.  Top to bottom a shitty effort in the 3rd.  The Metro will be really tough this year and giving away points in October may come back to bite these jokers in the ass in the spring.  The coach knows how they should play but he has zero ability to convey it to his team.

[Surreylily]

Didn't expect such a high scoring game.
Oh well, our fist regular time loss.
Would like to see Samsonov next game.

Night night peeps.   

[ArJunaZ]

the team we have seen since opening night only played one preseason game, I'd say yes

I was thinking the same thing earlier this game as well as last game. Ovie has uncharacteristically whiffed a hell of a lot on the most basic passes and shots.

[Mickstix]

Fucking Redskins hockey..    Oh well, see ya'll Saturday night. 

[ArJunaZ]

1st Period
09:17  GOAL 20-Eller, assists 21-Hathaway & 74-Carlson  1-0 WSH
10:39  Preds GOAL Forsberg, assists Duchene & Granlund   1-1 TIE

2nd Period
04:46  PP GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 92-Kuznetsov   2-1 WSH
07:37  Preds GOAL Johansen, assists Arvidsson & Jarnkrok   2-2 TIE
12:28  SH GOAL 43-Wilson, assist 18-Stephenson   3-2 WSH
17:36  PP GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 19-Bäckström   4-2 WSH

3rd Period
05:03  Preds PP GOAL Johansen, assists Ardvidsoson & Josi   4-3 WSH
06:13  Preds GOAL Duchene, assists Forsberg & Granlund   4-4 TIE
10:09  GOAL 77-Oshie, assist 9-Orlov   5-4 WSH
14:52  Preds GOAL Bonino, assists Sissons & Watson   5-5 TIE
15:20  Preds GOAL Ekholm, assist Jarnkrok   6-5 NSH


FINAL:    6-5 NSH

[waynerivers]

They've led after 2 in every game and are 2-3.  Play in our own end was especially horrible tonight.   Outside maybe Jensen and Gudas, the defense sucked.  Holtby looked like crap.  Sit his ass the next couple games. 

[zerofox]

Caps lose on many turnovers and mistakes. Holtby was a bit less Holtby than usual too.

Holtby doesn't seem much better than a $4-5 million goalie, which is why I hope the Caps don't pay him $10 million and just let him go. We need to stop putting him on a pedestal because his Vezina caliber seasons were thanks to Mitch Korn. Mitch Korn can take pretty much any goalie and turn him elite, but once that magic leaves the goalie turns into an average joe again.

[Surreylily]

Holtby doesn't seem much better than a $4-5 million goalie, which is why I hope the Caps don't pay him $10 million and just let him go. We need to stop putting him on a pedestal because his Vezina caliber seasons were thanks to Mitch Korn. Mitch Korn can take pretty much any goalie and turn him elite, but once that magic leaves the goalie turns into an average joe again.

TOTALLY agree.
Holtby has gone steadily downwards since Mitch Korn left. 
Is it that Holtls isn't doing any of that any more?  Has his new coach got him out of some of those practices?  Is it a motivational thing? 

Or could it just be as simple as his eyesight is getting worse?   

[zerofox]

4 goals in the 3rd.  Nice.  We've sucked in every third period so far.  Are they out of shape?

I was thinking the same thing, that conditioning is a problem. But no team is in prime mid-season conditioning form anyway, every team is a little out of shape, so we can't really use conditioning as an excuse.


I think the issue is plain old coaching. Team has a game plan and use their talent to dominate in the first portion of the game. Then the opposing coach, being an NHL caliber coach, adjusts. After a couple periods their coach fully understands what we're trying to do and tweaks their game plan to defeat ours. We're left flabbergasted because Reirden doesn't know how to counter. The guy is almost as dumb as Oates.


You can clearly see what good coaches out there can do, because they can take teams with half as much talent as ours and make them perform as well or better than us.


I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but if we're not going to bring on a real coach and therefore will lose a ton of games anyway, we might as well just play loosey goosey firewagon hockey and at least make games interesting.

[zerofox]

Also, anyone else worried about the 3rd line?


Top 6 will be fine. If one line struggles players can be shifted around. I'm not too worried about that.


But our 3rd line with Conno gone seems to lack any offensive punch anymore. Panik has been so invisible that I didn't even think he was on our roster anymore. And I don't think Hags will carry the mail offensively either.

Meanwhile, the 4th line has shown flashes of strong play. I feel more optimistic about them than the 3rd line

[richkrt99]

Also, anyone else worried about the 3rd line?


Top 6 will be fine. If one line struggles players can be shifted around. I'm not too worried about that.


But our 3rd line with Conno gone seems to lack any offensive punch anymore. Panik has been so invisible that I didn't even think he was on our roster anymore. And I don't think Hags will carry the mail offensively either.

Meanwhile, the 4th line has shown flashes of strong play. I feel more optimistic about them than the 3rd line

My feeling all along was that the combination of the new third and fourth lines would match the goal output of the previous third and fourth.


Our new fourth line has certainly looked better than I thought it would, and the third is kind of dragging (as far as output).  I think Panik will get better.  He's been kind of snake bit.  He did score one in preseason.  Hags is what he is.  I'm not sure we were expecting tons of output from Hags, but some contribution and mostly a big PK guy too.


We shall see....