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alta:
--- Quote from: richkrt99 on Monday November 23, 2020, 09:19:27 AM Eastern ---More from "As Rich's Reloading World Turns"....
Used my tumbler for the 1st time yesterday...WOW. I have some old tarnished shells been saving for couple years. Much of the 357 brass was 20 years old when it was fired. Mine is a dry tumbler. More vibrating than tumbling (and NO Zero I said vibrating not dildos ) but I am amazed at how clean the brass came out. Looks like brand new shiny brass (I did use some brass polish in the mix...came with the tumbler)
My reloaded ammo now looks newer and prettier than my factory ammo.
Anyone ever dry tumble loaded ammo? I read a BUNCH of threads on this over the weekend...seems lots of folks do for a short time to clean any case lube off.
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Nope, never tumbled loaded ammo. Seems as safe as using spire points in a lever gun.
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Mickstix:
My tumbler is another story of dust. I bet it's got a couple dozen pieces of brass still buried in the media. :-\ I used to gather spent brass at the range like it was going out of style.. Then they wised up and stopped letting us pick it up for free. :-(
alta:
I’ve been thinking about this tumbler thing. It made me think of this video, interesting if you’ve never seen it...
With that information I had pondered putting live ammo in a tumbler in the past. But no one would ever advise doing so. I’m amazed it’s being openly suggested now. But, if one must, I’d put the tumbler in a separate room with an extra layer of drywall and on a timer so I didn’t have to stand next to it to turn it on and off.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: alta on Tuesday November 24, 2020, 01:57:44 PM Eastern ---I’ve been thinking about this tumbler thing. It made me think of this video, interesting if you’ve never seen it...
With that information I had pondered putting live ammo in a tumbler in the past. But no one would ever advise doing so. I’m amazed it’s being openly suggested now. But, if one must, I’d put the tumbler in a separate room with an extra layer of drywall and on a timer so I didn’t have to stand next to it to turn it on and off.
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Awesome video. Thanks for posting that. I have to share that with some folks. Some of my friend's wives have been worrying about them storing ammo in the house.
I had no idea ammo was that "stable" or that it would not ricochet everywhere on fire or had such little velocity when "fired" outside a gun barrel. And with that video, I'd say you'd be hard pressed to set one off in a tumbler. (especially watching my tumbler run...it just vibrates - doesn't even really "tumble"
It's funny, most of the posts were by long time loaders on snipers forum, High Road, and other gun forums and the consensus was that no way could a round go off in a tumbler. Many users admitted to tumbling their finished rifle rounds to clean the case lube off and being doing so for decades. I stumbled across it quite by accident, but many of these discussions were more than a decade old.
Most of the discussion was more about concerns on the effect on accuracy and not any danger of setting off a round in the tumbler. From the "extensive" tests being professed, tumbling for even multiple hours (some over 24 hours) had no measurable effect on the accuracy (or change in velocity) of the long range ammo tested.
Seems there is some "professional" concern that tumbling live rounds can "break down" the powder inside the cases, but that "worry" seems to be more myth and almost certainly physically impossible (based on physics) with modern powders. Although the bullet manufactures will warn against it for this very reason, but I'd say that's more to liability and CYA than actual data.
Seems there has never been a documented case of a "case" going off in a vibratory tumbler.
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2012/10/10/is-tumbling-loaded-ammo-dangerous/
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: alta on Monday November 23, 2020, 09:49:12 AM Eastern ---
Nope, never tumbled loaded ammo. Seems as safe as using spire points in a lever gun.
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So....I have made a bunch of 357 Mag loads with 158gr HP. Should I not shoot these in my Henry Big Boy lever rifle? (Um....I already have) but I haven't dropped the rifle or anything to jamb the rounds together. I think it would be quite difficult to fire the primer with the weight of another (or several) rounds bouncing on the primer even with the inertia from the recoil.
I'm not a ballistics guy, but the recoil is pretty light in this gun.
Also the HP are sort of RN HP...I mean it's a standard 158gr HP (xtreme jacketed bullet) but I don't see how one of these is pointy enough to strike the primer of the next round.
I will have to go look at these and see how they contact when lined up like in a tube.
:huh:
Am I just ignert? I'm kind of fond of all my fingers...and my eyes...and my GUN
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