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Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
alta:
--- Quote from: richkrt99 on Monday May 03, 2021, 06:05:02 PM Eastern ---
Goes bang every time! I put 150 rounds through it yesterday (finally had a day before darkness). Took about 30 rounds to get the scope sighted in and man....can't believe how accurate these things are. So much fun to hit what you're aiming at. Sadly I realized yesterday my ammo can of .223 only had wasn't full and only had 270 rounds in it :'(
I was only shooting at +/- 50yds but with the scope at 4x you can easily put 10 shots in a 1" square and I am not a great shooter.
I can tell already I need to do something with the scope....It's functional, but can't use the flip up sights with the scope mounted. Not sure I want to get the scope up high enough to be able to co-witness, but think that might be the ticket. Either that or just make it a target scope gun, but what's the fun in that?
And....I didn't really build anything...I just assembled completed parts. Next time though...I'm really starting from ground up. Just not knowledgeable enough yet to know what I really want or what's good parts vs bad.
I'm thinking I want to build a competition quality rifle but not sure I can afford that. I would like to get good at 300-500 yards range. Not really serious (or wealthy) enough to go hang with the 1000yd crowd.
Funny how the new gun parts came in at the same time my wife was visiting her folks in FLA 8)
She already gives me a hard time every time she walks into the reloading room...."Every time I come in here there is a new box of something" Naw, honey, I just move them around a lot. ;)
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The first one I built I thought I was going to do bench rest/target/competition with. So I put a 24" bull barrel on it. It was a tack driver. But damn was it heavy, and I never got to use it for the intended roll. I put a 20" thinner profile barrel on it, it's still a tack driver, and still heavy. I wish I would've went to 18". 18" is plenty for .223 at under 500 yards. You'd be amazed at what distances .223/5.56 is lethal at in trained hands. I have no need/interest in shooting that far. For an all around under 500 yard rifle, which includes legally hunting in this state, you really can't beat 6.8spc. The 6.8 and 6.5G are almost equal under 500 yards. Where a 6.5 really shines is over 500 yards, well over. That's target shooting range. No one hunts at those distances, there are too many variables. The .300 whisper was revived for the AR and renamed the blackout. It's best use is suppressed subsonic. I'm not impressed enough with it to get one. I've built 6.8 in 20" and 16". You've gotta be real good to notice a difference between them at range. If you build you do need a couple special tools. After you build one you will have the disease so the tools will come in handy. Since you are going to build with quality parts, the only difference between a compition rifle and non compition rifle is the barrel, and even that is questionable. A good AR barrel will cost between $200 and $500, depending on features desired. The real difference is going to be the user. If the primary consideration is bench rest type compition, I'd go 18-20" depending on barrel profile.
The original AR was made with a 20" barrel in 1956(and marketed to civilians in semi auto only from day one). I don't think the military went to a shorter barrel until about 1980ish. The version the troops use today has a 14.5" barrel, special forces have been known use a 10" with suppressor, depends on the mission.
Quantico has a range civilians can use. I think you have to join a club and it's either 500 or 1000 yards, that's the only reason I would've been looking at that option. The only other 1000 yard option around here that I know of is Peacemaker National in WV kinda close to Winchester.
You could always buy a non breach loading cannon and go shoot at Ft Shenandoah with the N-SSA. We all know you can afford it. I don't have any interest in muzzle loaders but almost bought one after watching a couple matches out there.
richkrt99:
Got me some SR primers on the way. Paid too much, but worked hard at GB.
5000 SR for $377. (plus $32 shipping) That's about 8 cents a piece. About twice what they should be but I have not found ANY SR on store shelves this past year. Bought 1000 at the CHantilly Gun show (early October I think) for $40 but all they had, and I haven't seen any since. I'm not a big fan of the gun shows.
STILL WAITING on my shell plate for my progressive press for .223. (Hornady shell plate #16). I did finally find it "in stock" at MidSouth Shooters Supply, and purchased about 12 days ago, but it still has yet to ship >:( . They said shipping was approx 6-10 days backed up to ship, but we are on day 12. Meh - not that big a hurry, been looking for one for so long was shocked I actually found one in stock. Just hope they don't ship it to someone else before they get my order filled.
HAH! literally got a UPS ship notifications while I was whining about this...should arrive Wednesday. :)
Now....I just need that elusive Hornady progressive shell plate #1 to reload .308 Win. Haven't been able to find that for a year. Ticks me off only in that the progressive press USED to come with this #1 plate and when I ordered my press there were plenty to be had, but by the time I received my press (Aug 2020) they was all but gone. Been looking ever since and yet to find one.
richkrt99:
BY the way....and more importantly for any gun enthusiast such as myself...
Joe Biden and his ATF thugs are trying to redefine what firearms and parts are....basically trying to make it harder or altogether ILLEGAL to build your own firearm.
Big ATF dump late FRIDAY (so as not to be in the news) with lots of changes. I have always been a law abiding, tax paying citizen and have never broken, much less been charged or convicted of breaking any law. I have complied with all laws including gun laws, have never been done anything illegal or remotely skirted any gun law. However, I have legally purchased gun "parts" in my home that if the proposed regulations go through (again Regulation and not a LAW passed by congress), then I will post factly be a criminal who has committed a felony simply by owning parts of guns that were completed legal prior to these new "Regulations". I never considered myself a big 2nd Amendment guy, but the shit is getting real. I am the most stable and down to earth person that I know, yet I DO like my gun hobby. Joe Biden is trying to turn me into a felon without me ever doing anything that was illegal. WTF? I can't have a hobby because you fucking fascists don't know how to define what a gun frame or receiver or slide is?
And they are not doing this through LAW passed by congress, but rather just a "regulation" which they can blindly issue without congressional review. (sounds very constitutional)
And....WTF difference does it make? You think a CRIMINAL is going to care what protocol to follow for filing the proper paperwork when mayhem is on his mind? Like the paperwork is what is stopping him from committing heinous crimes?
alta:
the only gun related law that has been enacted in my lifetime that could be argued has made a difference is the NICS, even the DOJ/FBI admitted the Clinton "assault weapon" ban had no measurable effect on crime
none of these anti Bill of Rights communists have ever filled out a 4473
alta:
Rich, before you dive in and build your own, you should read a bit at M4C and arfcom in the builds/technical areas. I researched a good six months before I built my 1st. Not much has changed since then. I will never build one with carbine length gas unless it's a 10" barrel. I'd go mid length at a minimum. It beats up the rifle less, which beats on you less. It also extends the life of components, which admittedly isn't that big of a deal if you aren't shooting 10,000 rounds a year with it.
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