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Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
alta:
if you had a Marlin you could reload it a lot easier
:wackysmile:
really my only complaint with a Henry, and I think they are
a tad overpriced. You need one of these, though I think it
should be about $400 cheaper, even in today's climate...
https://vaguntrader.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1719087/gonew/1#UNREAD
the more I look, at least $400 cheaper. I paid less than $550
each for JM stamped 1894's in .357 and .44 less than 10
years ago. There is no fukin way an early Remington made
gun is worth twice that.
richkrt99:
Yep. Honestly wanted a Henry so long I finally ordered one last year. I rally liked the all weather model - not really a big fan of the gold, but did not realize until after ordering that it did not have a side loading gate. I sort of thought they all did. When I bought mine the 30-30 and and 45-70 had side gate loading but not the 357 & 44. I really wanted the 357 because I have a Ruger revolver in 357 and do not (currently) own a 44 or .45LC
Very happy with it though. It is fun to shoot and pretty accurate. (Side gate would be a little more fun though.)
I see NOW Henry has discontinued my "Legacy" Big Boy All-weather model and ALL the new models now have a side gate. Figures....Waited 20 years....should have waited 21. Meh.
NOW I have an excuse to just go for the .45 and matching Blackhawk :wackysmile:
richkrt99:
Riddle me this Batman...
Had my first squib load this weekend. Shooting my carry 9mm with reloads I loaded myself. (I carry it with factory ammo) I have shot probably 400 of these very 9mm reloads without issue. This one fired but the bullet stuck in the barrel and the shell stove piped.
I felt it was off (and it didn't hit the steel target and since I NEVER miss 8-0 )
and the shell stove piped on eject so I couldn't fire the next round even if I had tried. But I did certainly feel it was off so I stopped immediately.
I racked the slide and it ejected the shell and it tried to load the next shell, but the slide could not come all the way forward as the next bullet/shell wouldn't seat. Dropped the magazine, racked the slide and ejected the new bullet. Could not see daylight coming in from the barrel (in the slide) so I knew the last bullet was in the barrel.
I disassemble the gun, pulled the barrel and sure enough bright metal jacket shining at me. It went about 1" down the barrel.
This is Sig P365XL so it has a 4" barrel (okay 3.7" technically) I took a small wooden dowel and set it in the barrel (front) and basically tapped the dowel on the table (holding the barrel) a few times and the bullet fell out.
I cleaned the barrel.....inspected it, cleaned it again and re-assembled. I went back to the same box of ammo and fired the rest (maybe 20) without an issue. 49 of the 50 in this box were fine. 399/400 of this run have been fine.
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Can't see any damage or marring on the bullet. I took it back into reloading bench and measured it and it seems true. It is same diameter all way round, not out of round and so uniform I could not find any variation in it except....
This particular bullet measures .010" shorter than several other new bullets I measured from the same box of 500. (X-treme 9mm 115gr RN copper plated) I have loaded and fired several hundred of these.
100th of an inch shorter bullet, but when seating the press seats from the top down, so the Overall length would be the same, so the shorter bullet would have an OAL that is the same but basically 1/100" more space inside the shell. I know more space in the shell leads to LESS pressure, but we're talking 1/100" not 1/10"
These were some of my later reloads on the very top end of the loading data with this powder (HP38) so full loads - not HOT but definitely full loads
So what happened?
It definitely fired, and felt almost normal. I did not feel a dramatic difference in the "bang" but it was definitely different...maybe just no recoil without the bullet actually leaving the barrel?
There was quite a bit of black carbon on the outside of the "bad" stove-piped shell after I manually ejected it, and there was some black residue on the rear of the bullet...which easily wiped off.
This was very fresh HP38 powder, Win brass, X-treme 115RN bullet, CCI SP (#500)
Any thoughts on what went on here? I do not have a concentricity measuring tool, but the bullet seems very uniform and rolls evenly on a smooth surface without wobbling. Only imperfection is the nominal 1/100" shorter than others I measured.
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alta:
there are only two reasons for a squib, in your case the cartridge was under charged
The other way a squib happens is shooting the wrong caliber cartridge in a gun, i.e.
one with too big a bullet. An example would be a .300 blackout being fired in a .223/5.56 barrel.
and I wouldn't use that bullet again, no matter how pristine it looks. Also good thing you are smart enough to notice
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: alta on Monday March 22, 2021, 08:40:34 PM Eastern ---there are only two reasons for a squib, in your case the cartridge was under charged
The other way a squib happens is shooting the wrong caliber cartridge in a gun, i.e.
one with too big a bullet. An example would be a .300 blackout being fired in a .223/5.56 barrel.
and I wouldn't use that bullet again, no matter how pristine it looks. Also good thing you are smart enough to notice
--- End quote ---
Hmmm...these loads WERE prior to installation of the RCBS lockout die (which I do like) but also 9mm is EASY to see the charge. I visually check every one as I am loading
Not that I can't make a mistake, and it is a progressive so stuff is moving, but that surprises me. A little.
No I tossed the bullet...kept it to measure and then tossed it before I could mix it up with new ones.
forgot to attach the pic before, not that it shows anything. There was a lot more black on the shell before I picked it up.
Kind of what I thought...regarding reasons for squib load. Also kind of sucks means it was me. Hate to think about firing another round down that barrel. I'm careful, but when you are firing quickly I could see it happening. I worry more about one of my sons shooting it who don't have 10,000 rounds down range and might not notice until it's too late.
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