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Re: Off Season
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2019, 01:03:20 PM »
Giving Bura an offer sheet:

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2019, 05:06:41 PM »
They’d be nice but it’s unlikely.  Monumental “said” they didn’t trade him in season because they could only picks for him, yet they not only hold onto him and given him an offer after the Draft. 


Looks like Monumental just thinks we’re a better team with him, . .a better team in video games anyway


this makes absolutely no sense, at this point I'd be more than happy to get some draft picks for him rather than just let him walk. The only thing that would make sense is keeping some low hanging fruit around for the Seattle entry draft. But after the Caps let Schmidt walk I'm betting the Caps screw this one up too
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Re: Off Season
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2019, 11:10:12 PM »
Giving Bura an offer sheet:



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Re: Off Season
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2019, 07:41:40 AM »

this makes absolutely no sense, at this point I'd be more than happy to get some draft picks for him rather than just let him walk. The only thing that would make sense is keeping some low hanging fruit around for the Seattle entry draft. But after the Caps let Schmidt walk I'm betting the Caps screw this one up too
Agreed, particularly when most of the draft pics where given away.  This is the Caps so see him starting the season on the “4th Line” isn’t unbelievable.


You make a good point about Seattle, but if they take him, it’s their own damn fault.






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Re: Off Season
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2019, 04:17:50 PM »
He gone! Burt to Avs for a 2nd/3rd..


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. . . I would say better late than never, but one or two years ago we’d of got a hell of a lot more.


Hell Im surprised they even traded him

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2019, 07:06:29 PM »
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE. I wouldn't be surprised if Bura has a solid career elsewhere but he was hot garbage with us. Got tiring waiting for him to show up. The one time he did show up was when he scored 2 goals vs TB in the playoffs last year. One game he showed up.


Guys like Dowd and Boyd, who played 4th line minutes, actually scored at a higher rate than 3rd line and occasional top 6 Bura.


Bura = 25 points in 76 games
Dowd = 22 points in 64 games
Boyd = 20 points in 53 games


That is not a good sign for a 1st round pick who supposedly has a high ceiling. That plus Vrana soared to higher heights than Bura ever did, in a fraction of the time. Good riddance.

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2019, 07:26:29 PM »
Oh thank God.  WAYYYYYYY overdue, but glad to see him go.  I don't wish ill on the kid, but definitely glad to be rid of him.  I was terrified Caps would WAY OVERPAY him and be stuck with his horrible contract for years.  Bad enough to suffer with his play at a reasonable price.  Can only imagine how I'd feel paying him more.


(talking about Burka, BTW)


I'd have taken a bag of used pucks for him, so getting a pick, ANY pick, is better than signing him again.  I'm sure if we had the cap space he'd still be haunting our bench/ice/locker room for years to come.


Way to Go GMBM


Now sign Vranna


and find a decent dman to fill Orpik's shoes (good luck there)


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Re: Off Season
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2019, 11:04:25 PM »
Yea, I wish no ill will on the kid.. He needs to get with a coach who doesn't allow him to play soft.. He's got the size and skill, just needs the balls.

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2019, 12:50:36 AM »
Yea, I wish no ill will on the kid.. He needs to get with a coach who doesn't allow him to play soft.. He's got the size and skill, just needs the balls.


Same here Mick. No ill will on the youngster!
I wish Bura well, also. Just ELSEWHERE!😆


As frustrated as my many posts have been, about Bura, the player, the greater frustration was at the coaches and management, who created this patience trying, indecisive, back and forth scenario, with Bura, by re-signing him to that 2yr, “show me” contract, that was WAY ABOVE even the higher “show me” contracts around the league!


The higher money put coaches and mgmnt in a tough position of reluctantly having to extend their patience and tolerance of Bura, in a desperate hope that he may come around, so that their decision to re-sign wasn’t a bust.


While tolerating his mental and erratic production issues, all through his career, GMBM, and coaches, were treated to one hell of a spectacle of near meaningless ups and downs, to the point where Bura’s final few, short, “ups”, were no longer considered as signs of hope, that he was finally COMING AROUND!! Rather, it was more like, “Yeah, we’ve seen this routine. Not getting our hopes up this time”!


Bura just never took hold here, IMHO, although he does have his supporters. I started my dislike for him sometime during his 2nd season! Maybe he’ll fit better in Colorado!


Finally, thanks Andre, for your solid contribution to our Stanley Cup, especially those badly needed goals against Tampa Bay!! You made a difference!


Now that the Bura issue is over, GOOD LUCK #65, in Colorado.


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Re: Off Season
« Reply #71 on: June 29, 2019, 12:55:21 AM »
GOOD FUCKING RIDDANCE. I wouldn't be surprised if Bura has a solid career elsewhere but he was hot garbage with us. Got tiring waiting for him to show up. The one time he did show up was when he scored 2 goals vs TB in the playoffs last year. One game he showed up.


Guys like Dowd and Boyd, who played 4th line minutes, actually scored at a higher rate than 3rd line and occasional top 6 Bura.


Bura = 25 points in 76 games
Dowd = 22 points in 64 games
Boyd = 20 points in 53 games


That is not a good sign for a 1st round pick who supposedly has a high ceiling. That plus Vrana soared to higher heights than Bura ever did, in a fraction of the time. Good riddance.


Good comparitive stats, Zero!
Says a lot. Thanks!


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Re: Off Season
« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2019, 02:17:06 AM »
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Re: Off Season
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2019, 09:49:04 AM »
I feel like Bura will do well in Colorado. Good to see what we got for him. Vegas only got a 2nd and a 5th for Colin Miller from Buffalo and I think he's a better player at this point in his career.

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2019, 10:21:45 AM »

One down . . .


What they’ll “replace” Bura with that will comply with Reidons rec league system remains to be seen, but I have strong doubts that Stevenson or Boyd will get a better chance, or be used as the two way players they are.

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #75 on: June 29, 2019, 11:26:35 AM »
just heard on the radio local sports talk idiots that Bura requested a trade in the middle of last season, seems he was unhappy in the bottom six yet didn't really make the case that he deserved to bump one of the current top six down a level
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Re: Off Season
« Reply #76 on: June 29, 2019, 12:20:21 PM »
just heard on the radio local sports talk idiots that Bura requested a trade in the middle of last season, seems he was unhappy in the bottom six yet didn't really make the case that he deserved to bump one of the current top six down a level
Heard that too. .  There’s probably some truth in that.  Particularly the part where he couldn’t a case for it.


I’m not sure he’ll do well with Avs.  He sure as hell won’t crack their “first line”, and he isn’t enough of a twoway player to fit the rest of their system/roster.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they used him to flip him in a trade sooner rather than later

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #77 on: June 29, 2019, 03:40:35 PM »
If he wants to play in the top 6 there's always the AHL. He had "potential" but he never did a damn thing to earn a top 6 spot, unlike Vrana. Even Wilson stepped up big time. He earned his spot in the top 6. Bura had his chances.

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »
Heard that too. .  There’s probably some truth in that.  Particularly the part where he couldn’t a case for it.


I’m not sure he’ll do well with Avs.  He sure as hell won’t crack their “first line”, and he isn’t enough of a twoway player to fit the rest of their system/roster.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they used him to flip him in a trade sooner rather than later


He's definitely not a top 3 forward on the Avs and I even doubt his place in the top 6 is guaranteed. I think if he continues to be the headcase he has been, he'll earn his way to the bottom 6 pretty quickly.


I took a quick look at top 6 across the league, I think Arizona, Anaheim, and Edmonton (because outside of McDavid, Draisaitl, and RNH it gets pretty sad pretty quickly) he could potentially be a top 6, at least probably with more ease than he could be with most other teams. And this isn't even taking into consideration how he would actually fit in another team's system or fit in with linemates. It's just a basic back of the envelope "is he more talented than the current top 6 wingers there?"




Simply put, if Bura goes anywhere with the "I've got a top 6 spot locked down" mindset he's going to find himself demoted pretty quickly.

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Re: Off Season
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2019, 02:12:09 PM »

He's definitely not a top 3 forward on the Avs and I even doubt his place in the top 6 is guaranteed. I think if he continues to be the headcase he has been, he'll earn his way to the bottom 6 pretty quickly.


I took a quick look at top 6 across the league, I think Arizona, Anaheim, and Edmonton (because outside of McDavid, Draisaitl, and RNH it gets pretty sad pretty quickly) he could potentially be a top 6, at least probably with more ease than he could be with most other teams. And this isn't even taking into consideration how he would actually fit in another team's system or fit in with linemates. It's just a basic back of the envelope "is he more talented than the current top 6 wingers there?"




Simply put, if Bura goes anywhere with the "I've got a top 6 spot locked down" mindset he's going to find himself demoted pretty quickly.
If he grows up and quits worrying about “Top 6” and his stats,  he could be a damn good player.   He’s gonna learn the hard way that most teams won’t tolerate that childish video-game mentality.  He’ll either man-up or find a spot on the second line of a KHL team