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zerofox:
I like the Hagelin signing. Only real concern is the 4 year term, but other than that I think the dollars are pretty damn cap friendly.
I hate to see Nisky go but he has been struggling and ate up cap space. I like that Gudas offers some physicality (who will fuck with us now that we have Willy and Gudas?) but the dumb penalties are a concern. Hopefully Carlson Orlov Kempny and Jensen will be a solid top 4...
KitFisto:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Sunday June 16, 2019, 05:10:13 PM Eastern ---Uh boi.. They just gave Hagelin 2.75 x 4 and he doesnt take faceoffs.. (cough-Beagle took 3mil-cough) :huh:
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At the time the Caps didn't have the money for Beagle. Hagelin is also 3 years younger. Yes, they desperately need a face-off guy without question, but Hagelin vs Beagle isn't a choice the Caps made between the two. It's where they were financially at different times.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Monday June 17, 2019, 09:58:21 AM Eastern ---
At the time the Caps didn't have the money for Beagle. Hagelin is also 3 years younger. Yes, they desperately need a face-off guy without question, but Hagelin vs Beagle isn't a choice the Caps made between the two. It's where they were financially at different times.
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Yes, true . . . but the issue is, as I said at the time, the lack of foresight, and priorities over that time is the issue. Sure, Beags at 3.5abouts may look like a lot, but without out him, we were last, or damn near last, in not only face offs, but penalty kill. . .(which is pretty out and out full retard considering we not only have the leagues most watched players by the refs, but we are the “bad guys” to the NHLs media darlings that we play all the time).
But hey, Dowd is just as good as Beags . . . Ummm, . . . well
The bottom line is GMBetaMale has plumb-tee total, bent us over a barrel, provided fluff girls and complimentary hors’dorves to get fucked by every agent in the business. . . and maybe peanut vendors too should they fall on that side of the rainbow.
This is an ok deal on 7/17, even 7/2, but almost three weeks before UFA, . . . I’d rather call the other teams bluff and see if Arizona, NJD, or Minnesota would match it
richkrt99:
I don't mind the Hags deal. He played with heart and improved every line he played on. Definitely has quickness and Caps need him for the PK. Fair price for the talent. Four years...meh. We shall see. He can fill Connolly's spot with more speed and open it up a bit more. He can plug many holes when needed, so good guy to have on this roster especially. (Yes, I know he doesn't do faceoffs, but don't blame him for everyone else's weakness ;D )
Hate to see Nisky go. As much grief as these boards give him, he was likely our best all around D man over the last 4 seasons. (Yes, Maako, I know Johnny Qualude is on this team, but I said all around D-MAN) That being said, I'd agree he isn't aging well. Definitely nice to offload some contract and paying 5.75 to a 34 year old Nisky would be painful. Moving to the Flyers is got to suck ass for him. End your career in freakin Philly?
Looks like we save 5.75 mil and Gudas hit is 3.35, net gain of 2.4 in cap hit to spend elsewhere. (which I guess is Hags)
I'd welcome Orpik at another 1/1 deal if he'd have it. We need some budget guys.
Who else is left for us to sign....I don't even remember.
Stephensen....
Burka..... :lol:
What about VRANA? Got to sign that dude.
Jaskin - will walk...or should, caps don't like him for some reason
Smith Pelly -
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: richkrt99 on Monday June 17, 2019, 07:27:14 PM Eastern ---I don't mind the Hags deal. He played with heart and improved every line he played on. Definitely has quickness and Caps need him for the PK. Fair price for the talent. Four years...meh. We shall see. He can fill Connolly's spot with more speed and open it up a bit more. He can plug many holes when needed, so good guy to have on this roster especially. (Yes, I know he doesn't do faceoffs, but don't blame him for everyone else's weakness ;D )
Hate to see Nisky go. As much grief as these boards give him, he was likely our best all around D man over the last 4 seasons. (Yes, Maako, I know Johnny Qualude is on this team, but I said all around D-MAN) That being said, I'd agree he isn't aging well. Definitely nice to offload some contract and paying 5.75 to a 34 year old Nisky would be painful. Moving to the Flyers is got to suck ass for him. End your career in freakin Philly?
Looks like we save 5.75 mil and Gudas hit is 3.35, net gain of 2.4 in cap hit to spend elsewhere. (which I guess is Hags)
I'd welcome Orpik at another 1/1 deal if he'd have it. We need some budget guys.
Who else is left for us to sign....I don't even remember.
Stephensen....
Burka..... :lol:
What about VRANA? Got to sign that dude.
Jaskin - will walk...or should, caps don't like him for some reason
Smith Pelly -
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Good post Rich!
I still don’t understand the way the Caps have handled Jaskin? The boy has shown up practically every time he’s been called upon, with just a few exceptions!
In a longer lookback at GMBM, concerning the issue, originally, of handling the latter years of both Orpik, AND Niskys expensive contracts, (at the time), I think he has done an excellent job of dealing with the “weighty”, concerns, murmured over the last two seasons, about their age vs performance vs money!
With the recent Nisky deal, and the Orpik return, on the cheap, causing both Colorado, and now apparently Philly to shoulder much of the overload of their prior contracts! Props to GMBM for those well timed moves!
GMBM has also shown somewhat of a tendency, the last few seasons, to seem to want to use the earlier, offseason signings, to sort of telegraph to the team, more who he strongly favors, his “first fruit” preferences, maybe even passively letting some other players know, who the management is more willing to break balls for, and also who maybe, “not so much”!
Bura comes to mind, with the rapid signing of Hagelin!
The Vrana situation will be interesting to watch unfold! He can show some great stuff, but there were some times where he was starting to do some of the “low effort” stuff, IMO, especially when having to get back on defense, AND his playoff performance was, across the board, very below his standard of play! Add to that, he and Kuzy, get my solid vote for the absolute, “most wanting to go home”, attitude during the exit interviews! Unlike, with Bura, and Kuzy, I really want to see Vrana play here, so I hope my early insight on him, is off base! We shall see!
Can’t see Orpik going anywhere else, if his decision is to play another year! He, and family are dug in to the DC area pretty well!
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