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Playoff post mortem
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Monday April 29, 2019, 11:43:06 AM Eastern ---Im really not all that "down" on Carlson or his contract.. He plays a ton of minutes. Sets up Ovie on the PP.. He "can" be physical when tested, though he didn't seem like being bothered this year. As longa s he has a solid wing man, he wasn't too bad on D.. But Kuznetsov has me scratching my head. He's like a more successful Semin. Just acts like he's content with the one Cup. He can be electric, but also look like a power outage, all in the same game. lol
I agree though, it'll take multi playoff misses or a loooooong losing streak that leads to a playoff miss, to get the coach fired.. Not sure what it'll take to remove GMBM, not that I'm for removing him at the moment, but just look at GMGM and Grunfeld.. Yikees..
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Hey Mick!
It was a 3 to 4 season process for me, but finally, in the last half of the 2017-2018 regular season, just prior to our Stanley Cup playoff run, I evolved into sincerely ACCEPTING John Carlson, after years of mentally torturing myself, trying to understand the WHY, as to what the Carlson fans saw in him, that was so spectacular, The WHY, as to what interest the media had, in propping him up SO undeservedly often!
I think it was a combo of his career high, contract year, and that amazingly, he was extremely well liked in the locker room. Seeing his surprisingly good slap shot, sometimes rewarding us with a goal, and that TROTZ spoke well of the guy, also contributed to me making the effort to reconsider my thoughts concerning him! And, oh yeah, The Stanley Cup, and him being a part of that, also helped!
It is the whole package, on balance, that Carlson brings to the team, that deserved my honest consideration. For some not really understood reason, I sort of GOT IT, and it moved the needle for me into a place of cautious acceptance.
The HUGE long term contract he signed, cemented my reluctant resignation to the fact that, he’s not going anywhere, for a REALLY long time, so I yielded, for the peace of mind, and lined myself up in the “Carly Corner”!LOL At least the acceptance of the guy! I support him as a member of the Capitals.
It’s the singular focus on his defensive abilities, that I have a big problem with! And when his physical size is considered with it, his Defensive skills, generally, are very WEAK! His large, overall, offensive contributions, however, offset things, and help to reconcile those “whys”, that I used to ask myself, for years, concerning John Carlson!
On a quick, brighter note, he’s not our WORST starting Dman either. Just, not the best!
I liked the interesting choice of names you dropped, Mick, concerning who you could easily do without next year! Kuzy, Holtz, and Nisky. I’d fully agree with that. Nisky, hasn’t been brought up negatively, here on the boards, half as much as some other D guys, but MAN, has he gone SOUTH! That discussion is for another day, maybe during the summer board doldrums! LOL!
See ya!
Rush
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: alta on Monday April 29, 2019, 11:40:54 AM Eastern ---
I don't buy that they were tired either. I hate to point to shitsburgh, but they didn't look tired when they went back to back and the 3rd round, though they do now
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Normally I’d agree,. . . But the Caps had 10 players average over 17 minutes a game, and 4 over 20min a game.
While normally, I’d say “tough shit, you and you’re trainers should have a better worth out plan”, that amount of ice time for the same players after Cup is pretty ridiculous.
Any “fatigue” has to be heavily attributed to Reidons bench management, and/or GMBetaMales/Monumentals utter disregard for roster and organizational depth.
Surreylily:
We all know what was wrong with this team. Same shit different day.
End of.
blee088:
You guys are way too negative about this team. Like others have said they could have lost in the first round last year. and nobody would have seen what they were capable of that year. There's obviously some flaws in the team but to be so negative and already talk about a rebuild after they just won the cup last year is crazytalk. The thing is, if you look at any team there are players who have years where they don't perform as well. I mean look at crosby in this year's playoffs. It's too early to judge kuznetsov who did just Okay this playoffs instead of being incredible. The only guy who has those inhuman standards is ovechkin. But not everyone is a hockey god like him.
regarding rierden. I may be way off base, but my instinct says that he is the greatest assistant coach in the league. But he's not a head coach. And the reason why is because his personality is geared towards one-on-one management, being compassionate and player-driven and intellectual. A head coach isn't that. And I think the problem comes from seeing head coach as an extension or a promoted asst coach which i don't think is the case. I think they both serve their function. And this team would be better off with the greatest asst coach in the league todd rierden, with a different head coach. And that isn't an insult to rierden.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: blee088 on Friday May 10, 2019, 06:08:14 PM Eastern ---You guys are way too negative about this team. Like others have said they could have lost in the first round last year. and nobody would have seen what they were capable of that year. There's obviously some flaws in the team but to be so negative and already talk about a rebuild after they just won the cup last year is crazytalk. The thing is, if you look at any team there are players who have years where they don't perform as well. I mean look at crosby in this year's playoffs. It's too early to judge kuznetsov who did just Okay this playoffs instead of being incredible. The only guy who has those inhuman standards is ovechkin. But not everyone is a hockey god like him.
regarding rierden. I may be way off base, but my instinct says that he is the greatest assistant coach in the league. But he's not a head coach. And the reason why is because his personality is geared towards one-on-one management, being compassionate and player-driven and intellectual. A head coach isn't that. And I think the problem comes from seeing head coach as an extension or a promoted asst coach which i don't think is the case. I think they both serve their function. And this team would be better off with the greatest asst coach in the league todd rierden, with a different head coach. And that isn't an insult to rierden.
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Welcome Blee...unless someone already did, but welcome anyway.
I don't think anyone said blow it up an rebuild....just mostly talking about the parts that are leaving or possibly leaving.
We all butt hurt about the playoffs this year and yes, these folks/boards tend toward the negative, but the Caps blew a great opportunity this year. Look at who is left. The east was an easy ride. Boston is tough, but I think the Caps can handle them. We SHOULD have handled everyone else.
I'm not bitter, just disappointed at what ended up missing out on what was probably the easiest path in years to the final.
I'd agree on your assessment of TR. Better assistant than head coach, but then...why do it...from the Caps perspective? I mean loyal sure, and earned a chance sure, but ultimately it is total success we're striving for, not rewarding everybody who played along
Go Caps
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