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Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
Rey Capalpatine:
I'll admit I'm biased because I am a Caps fan and I never got to see the Great One play but I'll go with Ovie.
BlackIce:
Don't ever forget the effect of the evolution of goaltending training, coaching, and equipment. Gretsky had a MUCH easier scoring environment than Ovie has had.
In most of the era when Gretsky played goalies routinely put up save percentages in the mid to high 80's. Much of the time Ovie has been in the league save percentages have moved into the low 90's.
It doesn't sound like all that much difference, but you have to look through the other end of the telescope to understand how significant the difference is. A goalie with a .889 save percentage lets 1 of 9 shots in. A goalie with a .917 save percentage lets 1 of 12 shots in. Less than a 3 percentage point change in save % makes it 25% more difficult to score. (Or you could say in the earlier era it was 33% easier to score. Take your pick. Depends on which reference point you want to use as the denominator of the %.)
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Friday October 08, 2021, 06:31:18 AM Eastern ---(condensed content) blah, blah, blah....to use as the denominator of the %.)
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Which Star Wars movie was this evil "Denominator" in anyway? :wackysmile:
Just trying to get this thread back in the running ;D
alta:
OV could pass jagr tonight in Edmonton, game starts at 8
richkrt99:
Congrats to Ovie...3rd place all time.
I'm not a twitter guy, but I saw some twit feed and one twittard comment was Ovie tied Jagr with an ENG...and he has 7 this year so he is the most Dangerous scorer if the team has no goalie. Yeah, well, they all count dickhead. Goal scoring is not really a fair comparison one era to another anyway so Ovie's goal scoring today is much more impressive than those of yesteryear IMO.
I looked and couldn't find the stats on ENG.
One thing that surprised me a bit was Ovi has 120 GWG which puts him 2nd place all time. Gretzky had only 91. Gordy also at 120 and Jagr leads all with 135. There are about 15 guys above Wayne from 91 to 118 GWG
Ovi has tied Jagr with 766 goals, but done so in 480 less games played.
Ovi needs one more 50 goal season to tie Wayne and Bossy who have the most with 9. He likely would have already except for a few short seasons.
Also needs one more 40 goal season to tie Wayne with 12 for most ever, which I expect Ovi will accomplish this season.
Not sure Ovi will get that 50, but prolly this year is going to be his best shot. He is on pace for 50.89 this season currently.
while we are at it....Ovi needs one more 30 goal season to match Gartner with 17. Next year baby!
and....He currently has 17 20-goal seasons...Jagr, Shananah, Andreychuk all have 19 - which I believe Ovi will match in time. Ron Francis has 20, Gordy 22. Ovi will probably catch Ron with 20, but doubt Ovi hangs around for 22 seasons.
Ovi is the only player to score 700 with one team.
Go Ovi.
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