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GDT#45 Capitals @ Hurricanes 2018-01-12 7:30pm EST NBCSPW
Maacoshark:
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--- Quote from: altajava on Friday January 12, 2018, 09:58:47 PM Eastern ---So far this year Carlson has a -3, which will go up after tonight. That's why he neither an mvp or a Norris candidate
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That number means nothing. I think 5 on 5 Carlson is plus 9. He is minus 6 on the shorthanded goals against and minus 6 on the empty net goals we have given up. You are really going to blame all the empty net goals and short handed goals on Carlson. All you are doing is proving my point. You are being unrealistic.
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I have never blamed an eng on anyone person, that's a team effort. But yes, he has given up a couple shortys this year with his lackadaisical passing
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I know Carlson has made some mistakes that have lead to goals. All of our defensemen have. He has also done a lot if good things for our team but you refuse to acknowledge that. Funny you rip him for being a minus 3 which I believe is now a minus 2 and if you take the empty net goals away he is a plus 4. You also have to remember he plays a lot of minutes against the top players. You say he doesn't deserve to be in the all-star game. You think Letang over Carlson? Letang has been a pylon all year.
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I haven't watched enough of Letang to say, but I've seem enough of the Metro play to say Carlson wasn't dissed.
Have even wondered why your opinion of Carlson is in an extreme minority?? It obviously hasn't occurred to you but you are capable of being wrong.
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You dont even really know my official opinion of Carlson. And my opinion isn't a minority anywhere but here and I dont get it. Who do you think deserves to be can all-star over Carlson in the metro? Seth Jones? Ya I can live with that. Letang? He has been brutal. Leddy? Probably worse than Letang. Shattenkirk? Lmao . Carlson has outplayed them all both sides of the ice and your opinion doesn't change that. Is he the best dman in the league? Hell no but he us by far our best dman.
Since we are talking about opinions here is my official opinion of Carlson. I think he is a decent 2 way dman. Plays pp and kills penalties. Has a good shot. Pretty good at joining the rush. His defense can be suspect at times. He is decent at one on one coverage. He does have a good stick defensively. His biggest faults are turnovers on lazy passes and lack of physical play. You guys think I am a Carlson lover when the truth us he isn't even one of my 5 favorites players on this team. I have defended him because I dont like how he gets blamed for everything but get very little credit for the good things he does. His name gets thrown out there with more negativity than anyone else on this team.
At first I thought the Caps wouldn't keep him after this season but with all the losses on defense I feel that has changed. The Caps have already had talks with Carlson. Sorry guys but I'm pretty sure Carlson isn't going anywhere.
Maacoshark:
Carolina just handed this game away. The missed high stick call in Kuzy may have helped too. Officiating has been a bug issue this season. It seems every game there is a controversy call or non call. Glad it went our way tonight.
ArJunaZ:
ArJunaZ:
1st Period
03:20 Canes PP GOAL Staal 1-0 CAR
07:25 PP GOAL 20-Eller, assists 13-Vrana & 8-Ovechkin 1-1 TIE
2nd Period
0:28 GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 92-Kuznetsov 2-1 WSH
08:50 Canes PP GOAL AHO 2-2 TIE
3rd Period
01:49 Canes GOAL Skinner 3-2 CAR
16:52 GOAL 10-Connolly, unassisted 3-3 TIE
19:58 GOAL 83-Beagle, assists 19-Bäckström & 8-Ovechkin 4-3 WSH
FINAL: 4-3 WSH
Rush:
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--- Quote from: altajava on Friday January 12, 2018, 09:10:18 PM Eastern ---what an incredibly smart play from Norris candidate
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It funny how you rip Carlson for taking a penalty on a weak call but whine when Connolly get called for a blatant interference penalty. At least try to keep it realistic.
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Weak call? A blatant hold is what I saw, and Carlson did not even argue. We see it differently at times. The Norris candidate chop was kind of funny. I'd roll with it. :D We're all here to have fun and be friends. Taking a gentle poke is sometimes a part of that. :)
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I still think we should call a spade a spade. Dont rip one guy for taking a penalty but let Connolly, Orlov and Kuzy off the hook for the penalties they took.
Geez I can't believe I keep defending Carlson. I never thought too much about him until I met you guys. You guys are so hard on him here that I took him under my wing to protect him. I'll drop the gloves if I have to.
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Hey Maaco! Try to hear me out on this one.
I can’t believe you keep defending the guy either! I can certainly respect your opinion, no problem, I just don’t understand WHY you have it!!
I’m not attempting to be sarcastic or passive/aggressive with you, here, but I truly can’t get my head around how to square up your obvious, in depth hockey knowledge and analysis, with your support of such obvious and blatant playing mistakes of John Carlson.
I certainly don’t think you are using his POINTS or TOI totals, as support for your positions on #74! That is an obvious incomplete picture that you would be smarter than, to paint!! That’s ALL he’s got!
The part-time, lower hockey IQ fans, are the ones who buy into THOSE stat numbers, as gospel,like lemmings running off a cliff!
I say to you as a DIRECT COMPLEMENT to YOUR hockey IQ, that you are miles above the average hockey fans knowledge, IMHO! (Sincere props, buddy)! But IRONY of IRONIES, think about your last sentence in your post about being willing to take the gloves off to defend JOHN CARLSON!! Even if you weren’t being LITERAL, it’s still paradoxical logic on your point!
Why would you drop gloves for a guy, who is the epitome of SOFT!! Almost NEVER, if ever, has he dropped gloves for ANY FUCKING BODY!!!! I don’t know you that well, but you CERTAINLY don’t strike me as a man who would have someone’s back, who was too much of a wimp to have YOURS!!!
You’ve played and learned hockey, as you’ve mentioned, quite a bit in your life, so it would seem that you would have better insight on my point here, which is, to say, go ahead and defend his sorry ass, but if you were on the ice with him, you have to ask yourself, WOULD HE DROP GLOVES FOR YOU!!
Respectfully, I’ll say, YOU already KNOW that answer!
Just trying to give you something else to consider!
It’s all good!
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