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Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking/Disliking a post

Yes - it makes it too much trouble to "Like" a post.
No - I like it the way it is

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Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:39:06 PM Eastern »
We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation.  This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.

I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.

You can change your vote if you like.

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« Last Edit: Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:43:31 PM Eastern by ArJunaZ »
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #1 on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:47:23 PM Eastern »
My opinion, the like dislike doesn't get used like the old place because it doesn't appear you are "liking" a post, just the member in general. I think this has more to do with it than the explanation part.
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #2 on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:51:10 PM Eastern »
My opinion, the like dislike doesn't get used like the old place because it doesn't appear you are "liking" a post, just the member in general. I think this has more to do with it than the explanation part.

I just changed it so it is more clear.  I liked the thumbs up/down with the mouseover text clearly saying you are rating the post, but the text version I just switched to might be better.   What you think?
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #3 on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:58:26 PM Eastern »
it may help, I think location has to do with it too. The old place it was in the post so it was obvious, the "post was liked" text helped too. but it doesn't look like this board can be set up that way. This style board is set up for member karma, which isn't a bad thing, unless you've got no experience on those types of boards,
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #4 on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 10:05:00 PM Eastern »
   I just like the thumbs up. Dont need an explanation for liking a post. I dont think the thumbs down is even necessary. It would have to be a pretty terrible post to earn a thumbs down. I'll never use it.

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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #5 on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 10:14:26 PM Eastern »
it may help, I think location has to do with it too. The old place it was in the post so it was obvious, the "post was liked" text helped too. but it doesn't look like this board can be set up that way. This style board is set up for member karma, which isn't a bad thing, unless you've got no experience on those types of boards,

While I could reprogram the code to reposition it, it opens up a can of worms and more work for me later when updates to the core code comes out.  I'd have to repeat my custom changes whenever an update comes out and it just becomes more work than I really want to put into it.  I'm doing my best to stick to the core features as best I can while achieving the necessary functionality.  If I was getting paid for the work it might be more palatable, but changing the core code right now is something I steer clear of with only a few minor exceptions.
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #6 on: Thursday January 11, 2018, 11:56:00 PM Eastern »
   I just like the thumbs up. Dont need an explanation for liking a post. I dont think the thumbs down is even necessary. It would have to be a pretty terrible post to earn a thumbs down. I'll never use it.




I kind of agree with this.  Anybody here who dislikes" a post, will counter it here anyway and give their explanation as to why they disagree.  I don't see why somebody's 'karma' reputation should come in to it at all.  Part of the fun of discussion boards is that everybody has their own take on things and I don't agree with losing karma points just because you disagree with, or don't like  someone.


This board has been very positive so far and adding the "-" karma, I think is a negative that takes away from this site.


I don't mind giving a brief explanation of why I liked a post.
Maybe it could be simplified with poll type options, ie:  "I agree wholeheartedly", and ,"Made me laugh", and "other" - where somebody would have to put in their own reasons, but I don't mind this at all.
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #7 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:06:08 AM Eastern »
You do realise I've only just figured out the "quote" thingammy is at the top of the posts on here and not at the bottom like t'other site?
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #8 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:15:15 AM Eastern »
We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation.  This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.

I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.

You can change your vote if you like.

AJ


Hey AJ
To be honest, I haven’t even used a like yet. And won’t, until the format changes! Don’t get me wrong, my friend, the board is awesome, and there are a ton of posts I like! But its[size=78%] different and I don’t like the loss of anonymity about it, at all![/size]
[size=78%]I feel I should have the right to like a post, and not have to take into consideration, someone else’s opinion of whether I liked a specific post OR NOT, on somebody else!!! It adds the potential for way too much DRAMA, and soap opera type atmosphere for my blood, and definitely, IMHO, would help in the formation of little cliques, both pro or con![/size]
[size=78%]We are all only human, and [/size][size=78%]To my mind, its a simple VOTING procedure, and should be anonymous! If a person wants to inform another that he or she “likes” a post, they can post that they gave them a “like”, which was done all the time on the old forum![/size]
[size=78%]I also agree with Maaco about Losing the thumbs down! People can post their disagreements, anytime, but again, it has a potential for “ganging up” on someone, especially since they are NOT anonymous!! A LIKE IS A LIKE....period![/size]
[size=78%]Also, we brought over the number of posts for each member, but didn’t transfer the number of “likes”! Why not! Myself and some others have enjoyed a decent number of likes, only to have ZERO here! It was encouraging at the least![/size]
Lastly, I’m only commenting because you asked! I LOVE THE NEW BOARD, and am amazed at its progress! You started a GREAT THING, buddy,  with a little help from some folks,( we know who they are)!  So please don’t take this negatively. Just shooting from the hip with you, but the subject matter of this, really isn’t all that important to me, in the big picture of the board!
[/size]Thanks AJ

[/size]Rush




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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #9 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:20:27 AM Eastern »
May I just ask/check that there is no limit on how many likes one can give in any given time? 
For instance, in t'other site, we were limited to a certain amount of likes in a set period of time.  Sometimes we used to get  lively and funny GDT's, where we ran out of likes quite often.
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #10 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:29:35 AM Eastern »
May I just ask/check that there is no limit on how many likes one can give in any given time? 
For instance, in t'other site, we were limited to a certain amount of likes in a set period of time.  Sometimes we used to get  lively and funny GDT's, where we ran out of likes quite often.


Hey Lily!
Good to see you posting again! Saw your Bura post, and remembered that we were like minded about the guy on the old board, before! I don’t give him much time with. Trotz! Short of a miracle turn around!
Anyway, hope all is ok! Wife and I got a new German Shepherd puppy for Christmas. Man, it’s like having a newborn baby!!  LOL


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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #11 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:32:51 AM Eastern »
We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation.  This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.

I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.

You can change your vote if you like.

AJ








Nice to be able to read a post without (mostly), having to squint.  I'm getting old.   :(


Hey AJ
To be honest, I haven’t even used a like yet. And won’t, until the format changes! Don’t get me wrong, my friend, the board is awesome, and there are a ton of posts I like! But its[size=78%] different and I don’t like the loss of anonymity about it, at all![/size]
[size=78%]I feel I should have the right to like a post, and not have to take into consideration, someone else’s opinion of whether I liked a specific post OR NOT, on somebody else!!! It adds the potential for way too much DRAMA, and soap opera type atmosphere for my blood, and definitely, IMHO, would help in the formation of little cliques, both pro or con![/size]
[size=78%]We are all only human, and [/size][size=78%]To my mind, its a simple VOTING procedure, and should be anonymous! If a person wants to inform another that he or she “likes” a post, they can post that they gave them a “like”, which was done all the time on the old forum![/size]
[size=78%]I also agree with Maaco about Losing the thumbs down! People can post their disagreements, anytime, but again, it has a potential for “ganging up” on someone, especially since they are NOT anonymous!! A LIKE IS A LIKE....period![/size]
[size=78%]Also, we brought over the number of posts for each member, but didn’t transfer the number of “likes”! Why not! Myself and some others have enjoyed a decent number of likes, only to have ZERO here! It was encouraging at the least![/size]
Lastly, I’m only commenting because you asked! I LOVE THE NEW BOARD, and am amazed at its progress! You started a GREAT THING, buddy,  with a little help from some folks,( we know who they are)!  So please don’t take this negatively. Just shooting from the hip with you, but the subject matter of this, really isn’t all that important to me, in the big picture of the board!
Thanks AJ

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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #12 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:33:57 AM Eastern »
Bugger. Done it again.  ::)
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #13 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 12:48:32 AM Eastern »
May I just ask/check that there is no limit on how many likes one can give in any given time? 
For instance, in t'other site, we were limited to a certain amount of likes in a set period of time.  Sometimes we used to get  lively and funny GDT's, where we ran out of likes quite often.


Hey Lily!
Good to see you posting again! Saw your Bura post, and remembered that we were like minded about the guy on the old board, before! I don’t give him much time with. Trotz! Short of a miracle turn around!
Anyway, hope all is ok! Wife and I got a new German Shepherd puppy for Christmas. Man, it’s like having a newborn baby!!  LOL


Rush


Thanks luv'.  I think I needed my own re-set, so I benched myself for a little while... :P
Your new addition sounds like a lot of fun.  German Shepherd's are my favourite breed of dog and I always wanted one, but sadly I am severely allergic to live fur.  :'(   Hence Harley and Chalrley.  (Probably a bit before your time... Corn snakes.)
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #14 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 07:43:33 AM Eastern »
If it’s an easy change,. . .or just make it optional

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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #15 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 03:26:38 PM Eastern »
We're not getting a lot of action with the current configuration of the Like/Dislike Post feature. We used it far more on the old site. I think this is due to the requirement to enter an explanation.  This poll is asking if we should just ditch the explanation and let the Like/Dislike be a quick click.

I'll run the poll for a week or until the result becomes clear.

You can change your vote if you like.

AJ


Hey AJ
To be honest, I haven’t even used a like yet. And won’t, until the format changes! Don’t get me wrong, my friend, the board is awesome, and there are a ton of posts I like! But its different and I don’t like the loss of anonymity about it, at all!
I feel I should have the right to like a post, and not have to take into consideration, someone else’s opinion of whether I liked a specific post OR NOT, on somebody else!!! It adds the potential for way too much DRAMA, and soap opera type atmosphere for my blood, and definitely, IMHO, would help in the formation of little cliques, both pro or con!
We are all only human, and To my mind, its a simple VOTING procedure, and should be anonymous! If a person wants to inform another that he or she “likes” a post, they can post that they gave them a “like”, which was done all the time on the old forum!
I also agree with Maaco about Losing the thumbs down! People can post their disagreements, anytime, but again, it has a potential for “ganging up” on someone, especially since they are NOT anonymous!! A LIKE IS A LIKE....period!
Also, we brought over the number of posts for each member, but didn’t transfer the number of “likes”! Why not! Myself and some others have enjoyed a decent number of likes, only to have ZERO here! It was encouraging at the least!
Lastly, I’m only commenting because you asked! I LOVE THE NEW BOARD, and am amazed at its progress! You started a GREAT THING, buddy,  with a little help from some folks,( we know who they are)!  So please don’t take this negatively. Just shooting from the hip with you, but the subject matter of this, really isn’t all that important to me, in the big picture of the board!
Thanks AJ

Rush



Hi Rush,
The old Caps Forum until about a year or so ago used to always show who liked a post.  When they changed it and made it anonymous the reaction was overwhelmingly negative. People generally like knowing who liked their posts.  Another issue was that we were restricted to only about 10-12 likes per 24 hours. I've eliminated that limitation here.

It was requested by some (who now seem to go the other way) that we have the ability to dislike a post as well, hence I added it via the karma system.

I will try to change it so that only likes are possible.   I don't know if I can make the "Reason" an option, but I'll try.

I will also work on bringing over and adding the likes from the old site for each user.

Thanks for the input.

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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #16 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 04:07:43 PM Eastern »
OK, I think it's a lot easier to use now.

 - Dislike post is gone
 - No more explanations
 - I copied everyone's "Like" count from the old site and added them to any likes received here.
 - You can like as many posts as you want, but there is a waiting period of just under 2 minutes before you can Like another post.
 - Newbies (under 50 posts) still cannot Like a post. This is intentional.

More comments and suggestions are always welcome. 

Unless related to this Karma/Like topic just be sure to post them in the Tech Issues/Suggestions topic.
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #17 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 08:20:16 PM Eastern »
 ???


I would've still used the dislike button, just haven't seen a place to yet, while trying to be nice at the same time ;)
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #18 on: Friday January 12, 2018, 09:52:10 PM Eastern »
I think I'm at the point of using the dislike button on regular basis
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Re: Should we eliminate the need to add an Explanation when Liking a post
« Reply #19 on: Saturday January 13, 2018, 12:18:50 AM Eastern »
If it’s an easy change,. . .or just make it optional
That’s a cool idea, worth considering! Anonymous liking of a post can be an OPTION!
Truly, though guys, and especially you AJ.  I really hope my last post on the matter didn’t come off to negative! It wasn’t meant that way if so. The “likes” stuff is a minuscule matter of importance to me, personally, so I would say my comments on it, should really be viewed with much less weight, than those who are more into that part of it.
Thanks guys, I’m good with whatever you decide


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