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GDT#60 Capitals @ Kings 10:30pm Mon Feb 18, 2019 NBCSWA, FS-W
richkrt99:
Beags has got 2 goals and 6 assists in 36 games this year. I know he's not a real goal scorer, but what's with the 36 games? Has he been injured this year or just a scratch for 24 games?
alta:
He fractured his arm blocking a shot missing about 6 weeks,
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: alta on Wednesday February 20, 2019, 01:02:29 PM Eastern ---He fractured his arm blocking a shot missing about 6 weeks,
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10-4. I recall that now
zerofox:
IMO Vrana makes Burakovsky redundant. We already have a young up-and-coming offensive threat, who plays with more energy and speed and skill than Bura. And this is only his 2nd "full" season (first season he played like 20 games). Sorry Bura, but you had your chance and you haven't earned your keep.
This is Bura's 5th season, and Vrana has already pretty much matched Bura's career high in points and surpassed his high for goals with 20 games to go. You might argue that Bura hasn't spent as much time as Vrana in the top 6, but honestly you earn those spots, and Bura clearly hasn't while Vrana has. Bura is just a $3 million black hole for this team. His play is soft and uninspired. Can't battle, just loses the puck all the time, and isn't providing the type of punch you'd want from a 1st round draft pick. Bura's first two seasons were more promising, since he was that young guy with potential and put together some decent production in those seasons, with the expectation that he'd only improve. Since then we've seen no growth, and in fact mostly just a decline in play. Why he hasn't been shipped off earlier is beyond me.
With regards to Beagle, I agree he's the better fit for this team. His work ethic, faceoffs, PK, overall defensive acumen, etc are much more beneficial to our team than Bura's charmin soft ineffective play. That said, don't think I'd straight up trade Bura for Beagle (Bura has "change of scenery upside" and is younger, and I think another team would pay extra for that over a 33 year old that's pretty much reached his ceiling). Beagle + some other pieces for Bura? Yeah maybe, but I'd still be wary of taking on a $3 million a year cap hit through Beagle's age-37 season. Again, not saying I wouldn't prefer Beagle over Bura, just want to be conscious of salary/contract and trade return.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Wednesday February 20, 2019, 09:40:14 PM Eastern ---IMO Vrana makes Burakovsky redundant. We already have a young up-and-coming offensive threat, who plays with more energy and speed and skill than Bura. And this is only his 2nd "full" season (first season he played like 20 games). Sorry Bura, but you had your chance and you haven't earned your keep.
This is Bura's 5th season, and Vrana has already pretty much matched Bura's career high in points and surpassed his high for goals with 20 games to go. You might argue that Bura hasn't spent as much time as Vrana in the top 6, but honestly you earn those spots, and Bura clearly hasn't while Vrana has. Bura is just a $3 million black hole for this team. His play is soft and uninspired. Can't battle, just loses the puck all the time, and isn't providing the type of punch you'd want from a 1st round draft pick. Bura's first two seasons were more promising, since he was that young guy with potential and put together some decent production in those seasons, with the expectation that he'd only improve. Since then we've seen no growth, and in fact mostly just a decline in play. Why he hasn't been shipped off earlier is beyond me.
With regards to Beagle, I agree he's the better fit for this team. His work ethic, faceoffs, PK, overall defensive acumen, etc are much more beneficial to our team than Bura's charmin soft ineffective play. That said, don't think I'd straight up trade Bura for Beagle (Bura has "change of scenery upside" and is younger, and I think another team would pay extra for that over a 33 year old that's pretty much reached his ceiling). Beagle + some other pieces for Bura? Yeah maybe, but I'd still be wary of taking on a $3 million a year cap hit through Beagle's age-37 season. Again, not saying I wouldn't prefer Beagle over Bura, just want to be conscious of salary/contract and trade return.
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Zero,
I was suggesting only in Jest at first that we trade Burka straight up for Beags. IMO your are 100% correct that Beags has reached his ceiling and I fully expect decline in his play. What is frighteningly sad is that I WOULD take Beags over Burka on THIS team right now for this season at even money. I don't think Beags is worth 3 mil at this point in his career, and I wouldn't want to be stuck with his salary the next two seasons. You are spot on that Burka is a black hole of $3 mil. It was almost a joke suggesting the even swap because Beags was an undrafted 4th liner who is 32 years old, yet he would do more for this team than Burka; a 24 year old 1st round pick.
Burka has had way too many chances to prove himself and Vranna's improvement has indeed made Burka even more of a waste of time. Caps waited too long to just dump Burka, so now we will get virtually nothing for him.
At this point I don't know what to do with him. Will ANYONE trade for him? I mean, if you were interested, why not just wait till next year and pick him up for free? Caps won't be able to resign him due to cap space. I guess some team who WILL be making the playoffs and have the cash and some minor worthless trade bait could go out on a limb and pick him up for cheap and then not resign him if he (continues) to flop.
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