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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #140 on: Sunday February 17, 2019, 11:54:39 PM Eastern »

But don't worry we played fine we were just fucked by the refs.... :-|

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #141 on: Sunday February 17, 2019, 11:55:17 PM Eastern »

But don't worry we played fine we were just fucked by the refs.... :-|
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #142 on: Sunday February 17, 2019, 11:55:22 PM Eastern »

But don't worry we played fine we were just fucked by the refs.... :-|


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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #143 on: Sunday February 17, 2019, 11:55:55 PM Eastern »

The Ducks are the 29th ranked team in the league. They're 1-8 in their last 9, and had been outscored 40-9 in those games. Please don't tell me that the refs gave the Ducks momentum and gave them the win. Fact is, we are in the position that we are in because WE sucked. This is NOT a ref issue. Saying that the refs had anything to do with this is hiding the fact that we are garbage.


Anyone who is not concerned that this team is highly likely NOT to make the playoffs is fooling themselves.  You have CBJ, NYI, PIT and CAR in our division that are all better than we are right now.  Add in TBL, BOS, TOR and MTL and you can easily see this group of jokers on the outside looking in.  We made no moves on the blue line at the trade deadline yet Orpik, Niskanen and Orlov all look horrid day in and day out.  The coach is clearly out of his depth.  Can't kill penalties once again. Suck at faceoffs and take way too many stupid penalties.  I thought when they played a nice game and beat Calgary coming out of the break that they would go back to playing the hockey they played last spring.  I was clearly wrong.  They have gotten FANTASTIC goaltending from Holts since the break and they are still losing games at an alarming rate.  If they don't turn it around on the rest of this road trip they will dig themselves a hole they will not be able to crawl out of.  Ugly but true.

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #144 on: Sunday February 17, 2019, 11:57:17 PM Eastern »
We're playing against a decimated Ducks team and their back up goalie............   :wtf: SHAMEFULL.  Just shamefull.   :(


Really sad to be honest.  As much as I enjoyed last spring, this is making it hard to remember.

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #145 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:00:10 AM Eastern »
What I find most disturbing is the Caps seem to misplace the most basic of skills on many days. They often look like lost Mites On Ice out there.  How can you be so different from one game to the next?
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #146 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:01:04 AM Eastern »


1st Period
04:58  GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 13-Vrana   1-0 WSH

2nd Period
06:26  Ducks GOAL Henrique, assists montour & megna   1-1 TIE
14:07  Ducks GOAL Silfverberg, assists Henrique & Lindholm   2-1 ANA
17:01  GOAL 74-Carlson. unassisted   2-2 TIE

3rd Period

00:37  Ducks GOAL Henrique, assists oerry & Getzlaf   3-2 ANA
03:40  Ducks Goal Perry, assists Fowler & Getzlaf   4-2 ANA
14:55  Ducks GOAL Silfverberg, assists Grant & Zotto   5-2 ANA

FINAL:    5-2 ANA
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #147 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:07:25 AM Eastern »
Nighty night my loverlies.  We get to do it all again tomorrow........... :-|
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #148 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:09:41 AM Eastern »
Nighty night my loverlies.  We get to do it all again tomorrow........... :-|

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #149 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:12:45 AM Eastern »
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #150 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:22:04 AM Eastern »

Anyone who is not concerned that this team is highly likely NOT to make the playoffs is fooling themselves.  You have CBJ, NYI, PIT and CAR in our division that are all better than we are right now.  Add in TBL, BOS, TOR and MTL and you can easily see this group of jokers on the outside looking in.  We made no moves on the blue line at the trade deadline yet Orpik, Niskanen and Orlov all look horrid day in and day out.  The coach is clearly out of his depth.  Can't kill penalties once again. Suck at faceoffs and take way too many stupid penalties.  I thought when they played a nice game and beat Calgary coming out of the break that they would go back to playing the hockey they played last spring.  I was clearly wrong.  They have gotten FANTASTIC goaltending from Holts since the break and they are still losing games at an alarming rate.  If they don't turn it around on the rest of this road trip they will dig themselves a hole they will not be able to crawl out of.  Ugly but true.


Yup, exactly my point when I posted this


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We're going to lose if we keep playing like this. Against a bottom feeding Ducks team too...
Honestly at this point let's just make a concerted effort to get Ovi his 50th and the Rocket. There's no chance this team makes the playoffs. PIT and MTL as the wild card teams are only 2 points behind, and the Caps can't get things going against the worst of the worst.



The Caps are playing like garbage. And I don't just say this because they've been losing a lot, because our losses are NOT a case of "we worked hard but bounces/calls/hockey gods didn't go our way." I say this because you can see it in their play. No one can make a fucking pass. There's absolutely no chemistry whatsoever. No one plays with any snarl or fight in their game. Our Powerplays fizzle out because we struggle to enter the zone and maintain zone time, and even when we do it's just an overpassing exhibition until someone makes a stupid pass to the other team. Our PK is all over the place. Game after game there's just no effort. There's no team defense. There's no physicality. There's no flow. Elite teams play with a chemistry and flow that makes it seem like the players are communicating telepathically sometimes. This team plays like a team of guys who are just happy to get millions a year. This team plays like a team that has one trophy in mind - one that says "2018-2019 NHL Season Participants."


Our terrible play has been masked at times by Ovechkin's heroics or Holtby's goaltending from time to time. Our record is 32-20-7 you say? Yeah, take away that 15 or so game streak where Ovechkin was on fire and tell me that we're still above .500 win percentage. I still believe that we are better off feeding Ovechkin every single chance we get. Not just because I personally want him to get 50+ and win another Rocket, but also because I firmly believe he's the only one who can get us on the board. That late game rush where Eller just shot it instead of trying to pass to Ovechkin? That was a mistake, and Eller made the lower percentage play there. With Oshie out, only Ovechkin and to a lesser extent Vrana can get us on the board.   


CBJ, PIT, MTL are 2 points behind us, and CBJ has 2 games on hand. CAR has been hot (8-2-0) and sits 3 points behind us. This team WILL NOT make the playoffs by playing this way. A bullshit "player's only meeting" and a week long vacation didn't do shit to help our cause. TR is driving this team into the ground so hard that if he isn't fired tomorrow I'm afraid we will have drilled a hole to China by the end of the season.


Meanwhile, soft useless Burakovsky is still on our payroll somehow. He's one of the few players who can go for a body check, land the body check, but ends up being the one who falls ass first on the ice. If you think Bura is worth $3 million a year, then I'd like to sell you some bottled air.



We took a championship team, removed a 4th liner and a backup goalie, and ended up with a non-playoff bound team somehow. Trotz wasn't perfect, and there were times last year where it felt like he lost the team, but his 3 dominant seasons before that gave him benefit of the doubt. TR is well past the first 30 games of the season, which is a period of time where I'll give a free pass to a new coach to get his players and system up and running. I don't care as much that Trotz left, but I care more that we picked the wrong fucking guy to be coach. This guy couldn't even coach fucking Boys and Girls Club roller hockey for fuck's sake...

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #151 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:23:57 AM Eastern »

wow, Maaco reincarnate, where did I say that ??


Sorry, just fucking pissed.

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #152 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 12:45:44 AM Eastern »

Sorry, just fucking pissed.


yep, it is annoying watching this team.


My point about the refs, at the time of the bullshit call against Willy it was a tie game and very much a contest, even as badly as the Caps were playing. The refs changed momentum with a very bad call. Refs usually try to even the score when they recognize they've blown it. Instead the Caps got called for three more penalties. At least one of which was another bad call. Caps couldn't recover any momentum because they were playing like shit while on the PK for 6 minutes. Even when playing poorly this team has proved they can beat one opponent, but not two.
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #153 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 03:01:09 AM Eastern »
Hey Folks.
My disappointment with this team, and what’s been observed for damn near two months of Caps hockey, makes for extreme frustration!
It almost rises to an obsession, when trying to figure out the “whys”, and causes, of what I sadly observe, overall, with our play!
I want there to be reasons to have hope, that we can see coming just around the corner!
I’m looking for deeper and more meaningful reasons, as the frustration continually grows!


Ya know what!! Tonites postgame interviews helped me partially understand, that it may not be so hard to figure out!! The answer may be painfully right under our noses!  Here’s why:


It’s a simple and basic thing! And I haven’t been looking for it either!
Carlson, who is as vanilla, and mundane, as it ever gets in a post game interview, actually said something unique, and different, than his typical safe, and bland responses!


He said, when asked about the inconsistency in play, (San Jose game versus Ducks game), “We have to hold each other accountable, to continue to play at that level,(San Jose game), not just to come
out and play WHEN WE FEEL LIKE IT”!!!! (referring to the Ducks game)!


WHEN WE FEEL LIKE IT!!..............💥B O O M💥!!!!


VOILA!!  There you have it in a nutshell!! Think about it. Carlson has a rep for being well-liked on the team! I don’t care for the guy, but he does seem to have a good rapport with the guys!
This means that the locker room has an issue with guys giving half ass efforts, OFTEN!!


I know we’ve all agreed, as fans, that it often DOES appear that way! We’ve suspected it a lot!
The thing is, we also throw out a lot of other problems to mix into this ball of confusion!!
I, for one, simply don’t want to believe it WHOLEHEARTEDLY! My brain has trouble with allowing myself to believe, that our Stanley Cup winning boys, may oftentimes not give as much of a FUCK, when they’re out there!!....Ok maybe not EVERY player, but most of them have been guilty of this very thing that Carlson has confirmed!!


I truly believe that this scenario really MAKES SENSE! It’s the best reason we have that provides ANSWERS, and helps to make sense of this random-ass, crap play, ever since at least Christmas!!
It EXPLAINS A LOT!!! Things aren’t so murky to have to understand, when you put “not giving a shit”, as a backdrop to some of these baffling losses!
Are there other issues? Of course! But many of our current blunders can be either directly, or indirectly, associated with this problem!!


All hope is not lost, however! (I say this sincerely).
If our problems are due, in a large part, to players often “playing hard only when they feel
like it”, then the solution is KNOWN easily, as to what they must do!


The difficulty is in knowing whether they WILL, or NOT!!


Brooks Orpik said it best when asked about this phenomenon! He carefully didn’t offer optimism, OR pessimism, in his reply! He simply said, “We will get what we deserve”!!


As far as I’m concerned, as a Caps fan...... I just found a great frickin’ ANSWER!!!


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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #154 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 08:07:03 AM Eastern »
The game was what the game was.   It's the SSDD we've seen for years now - amazing one night and crapping the bed the next.   Playing up to the level of the best teams and down to the level of the worst.

What frosts me most of all is that in reading these posts there more passion in the 8-10 regular posters than any of the players I saw in the post game interview.

Look, I know they care.  It's their career, it's their passion, etc, etc but I didn't see a single one of them the least bit pissed about that effort.   We've given up 11 goals in two games to one of the worst offensive teams in the NHL this year.  Dumb pinches, missed assignments, brainless penalties.

Saw the dumbass Rierden in his post game conference say that "we had players who didn't get it done so we'll see different players tomorrow night".  Great, show us your coaching prowess and please bench Jaskin, please bench the rest of your 4th line as if they are the only ones responsible for this disaster.

The team that played Columbus and the one that played last night misses the playoffs.   The team that beat SJ on the road can win the Cup.  Anyone want to venture a guess as to which one we see against LAK?  I don't know.   You don't know.  And, most frighteningly, Rierden doesn't know either.

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #155 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 09:03:04 AM Eastern »
Is it my imagination or does Rierden look more and more like Oates Pierre McPenquin every day?


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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #156 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 09:07:32 AM Eastern »
After Jaskin had that mid 3rd period penalty I almost posted then I garuntee he will be scratched tonight. If he is, then Reirdon is definitely out of his league. The way he's knows to get some motivation is by benching the 3rd stringers. BFD. If the Caps truly need a different head coach they need to find one yesterday. There's competition now for Quinville.


and there's no way in hell I'd consider Oates better than Reirden. Oats had that lockerroom in a fukin mess. Reirdon at least has that under control. Its on ice motivation that is a problem, and that's been there for about 10 years now. The  core players think they can coast here and there then turn everything on come March. That's only worked once, and has been noted, the memory of last spring is getting highly soiled by watching this lackluster performance.
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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #157 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 09:47:03 AM Eastern »

The Ducks are the 29th ranked team in the league. They're 1-8 in their last 9, and had been outscored 40-9 in those games. Please don't tell me that the refs gave the Ducks momentum and gave them the win. Fact is, we are in the position that we are in because WE sucked. This is NOT a ref issue. Saying that the refs had anything to do with this is hiding the fact that we are garbage.




(OH....I missed the last page of posts before I posted this so....take it with a grain of salt (like you should anyway)...)




Yeah I hear you, but momentum is big in hockey AND....


So what they are 29th ranked team?  Ranked by their record?  By their talent? The fact that the ducks have lost 8 out of their last 9 and not been able to score in that stretch is just fuel that they are DUE a decent game.  Yes the Caps played like crap, but the Ducks got some lucky bounces and ARE a NHL team.  Even the worst of these have good games and beat better opponents now and then.  (ahem....see Caps SC run of 2018)


NO, the Caps did not deserve to win this game, but it takes little to swing the momentum and outcome of a game in the NHL.  Oshie goes out hurt, with NO CALL for a headshot, lucky goal bounces for Ducks, shitty call on Wilson, etc, etc.


You think the CAPS are really 5-1 better than the San Jose team they beat in the previous game?  No, but sometimes you have up games and sometimes you have down games and sometimes it's a swing in momentum that starts the avalanche.  Occasionally the whole team does.  Unfortunately, the Caps seem to not be able to fire on all cylinders on a regular basis and that's on the coach.  Maybe not his fault, but his responsibility.


I don't know why I am always surprised at how negative these boards are after a shitty loss.  I should be used to it.  Yes we want better, but NO team wins every game.  No team plays at their best 100% of the time.  Being a Cap fan for four decades will teach you the Caps are especially true of this.


I don't even think the Caps were the best team in hockey last year, but they managed to out perform all 15 of the other teams when it mattered.. in the playoffs.  They pulled it together better than any other team at the right time.  Overcame ups and downs, scored timely goals, played team D, got great goal tending, got game winning help from their bottom tier guys, and let's face it...got some very long overdue lucky bounces from those cursed hockey gods that made a difference in more than one series win.  I don't think Vegas was the best team in the west either, but sometimes magic happens.


I think what we are seeing now is realistic.  Caps are tired, they don't have the drive, they are very weak on D, they are weak on coaching, and their stars are getting older.  They have talent, but not enough D.  That USUALLY spells disaster in the NHL - (especially for those teams that actually make the playoffs).  I do NOT expect another LEGIT SC run out of THIS team.  I would love it, but frankly they are too weak on D.


Other than Ovi and Wilson, and Vranna, WHO on this team is playing at or above expectation this year?  How many are playing below (REASONABLE) expectation?  Nisky is so-so, Orlov is beyond suspect, Carlson is....Carlson.  Nicky is just so-so.  Kuzy is inconsistent, Oshie is up and down (and injured) and on and on.  With half of your team UNDER performing, you should expect some shitty losses and a mediocre record.
No I am not okay with those who are under performing on this team, but even IF they all were playing at REASONABLE expectations, this Caps team is simply NOT one of the best teams in hockey so we should not be all that surprised or disappointed when they get beat.


I do NOT believe Rierdon was a good choice, but a LOYAL and safe one, which is what this ownership appears to be comfortable with.  Trotz was not an option from about mid-season on and NOBODY (on these boards) would have re-signed him mid-season last year. (so please quit telling me how great he is/was....we should've, could've, etc)  Plus Trotz is best at coaching younger teams, so I am not surprised NYI are over performing.  Trotz typically has been better at getting more from the younger guys.  Probably WHY he was no great Savior to this Caps team for the first 5 years.


Whew, rant over (again, and for now)


Shitty game, Caps deserve your ire, just try and be realistic (and this is not all directed at you Zero, yours is just the post I responded to)


Go Caps!  SC playoffs, here we come!...(er...um...maybe, well...probably, well....hopefully, well.....we shall see....those of us who hang in there to find out.)



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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #158 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 10:18:55 AM Eastern »
You just don't turn around something like this overnight; not with the undisciplined play, the lack of consistency, the laziness and just plain stupid decisions.  The only way to maybe wake somebody up is to scratch a couple of these big names who aren't doing the job.  Let them watch from the press box for a few games and maybe they'll wake the hell up.  Of course, you have so many guys to pick from that it's a tough decision. 

Overall, though, I think the goose is cooked for a couple reasons.  First off is that there is, apparently, little demanded from the HC.  He seems happy to dawdle along with this crap.  For example, after that 6-5 Anaheim loss at home, they should have been torn some new a-holes but did we hear of anything?  See anything?  No.  The second reason is that they're obviously satisfied with their Cup and don't feel any urgency going forward.  Great teams are never satisfied. (See 70's Habs, 80's Islanders, 80's Oilers and 90's and 2000's Penguins).  From the looks of things, they're just not all that upset about what's happening and that is a sure sign that not much will change.  If nobody is standing up in the locker room, there's no fire from the HC and the FO doesn't seem interested in shaking anything up, then you get what we're getting.

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Re: GDT#59 Capitals @ Ducks 9:00pm Sun Feb 17, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, PRIME
« Reply #159 on: Monday February 18, 2019, 10:33:31 AM Eastern »

Anyone who is not concerned that this team is highly likely NOT to make the playoffs is fooling themselves.  You have CBJ, NYI, PIT and CAR in our division that are all better than we are right now.  Add in TBL, BOS, TOR and MTL and you can easily see this group of jokers on the outside looking in.  We made no moves on the blue line at the trade deadline yet Orpik, Niskanen and Orlov all look horrid day in and day out.  The coach is clearly out of his depth.  Can't kill penalties once again. Suck at faceoffs and take way too many stupid penalties.  I thought when they played a nice game and beat Calgary coming out of the break that they would go back to playing the hockey they played last spring.  I was clearly wrong.  They have gotten FANTASTIC goaltending from Holts since the break and they are still losing games at an alarming rate.  If they don't turn it around on the rest of this road trip they will dig themselves a hole they will not be able to crawl out of.  Ugly but true.


Yep.  The Caps could be joining these guys:


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