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GDT#33 Penguins @ Capitals 8:00p.m. Wed Dec 19, 2018 NBCSN, TVAS
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday December 20, 2018, 08:58:13 AM Eastern --- Yeah, much better than they have been overall.
The Hens strategies really haven't changed against us, and they've been very successful against us. However I do wonder why the hell the Caps refuse to adjust to defend the Hens strategy of crowding the Holtby and getting tap-in/ugly goals.
This has been highly effective against our pond hockey systems, and got them both of their goals last night, and was only really stopped in the playoffs when we went to a lock against them and stopped it.
Regardless, this was worth the two points:
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None of our dmen clear the crease. Maybe Orpik when he is healthy. That is another lost skill in the NHL. Dmen aren't really allowed to clear the crease anymore. I see Rush is on a Carlson rant again. Not sure why I'd single him out. He isn't the only one. I dont think he was responsible for either of the goals against. I'm not giving him a free pass but he isnt more guilty than anyone else.
And I agree with DC. Wilson knocking out Olesiak made my night. I'm not upset about the loss.
alta:
--- Quote from: ArJunaZ on Thursday December 20, 2018, 05:02:26 PM Eastern ---Hi Lil !!!!
Happy Birthday
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I bet she don't want hot wax down there either :uh-huh:
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Beaglefan2 on Thursday December 20, 2018, 06:04:13 PM Eastern ---Rush - you wrong on one point - Carlson did not "try" to clear the crease! He just stood around. Pitiful. I don't know why Holtby doesn't get on him. Oh well, at least he is consistent and we know what to expect.
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LMAO Beags!!
Believe it or not, I actually saw Carly attempt a cross check, at the crease, to the back of Malkin?, I believe!!
I think Carlson got a thank you card, from Malkin, delivered to his locker, postgame, that thanked Carly for relieving an itch, he had, on his hairy Russian back!!!🤣😂😆🤣😂!!
In all seriousness though, none of out guys are crease defenders, and one of the reasons the Hens got their two sloppy goals last nite!!
I will say Carly has basically kept up with his offensive production, but he has most definitely slipped back into the “bong hit” defensive style that he is oh so famous for!!LOL
Rush
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Thursday December 20, 2018, 06:52:14 PM Eastern --- None of our dmen clear the crease. Maybe Orpik when he is healthy. That is another lost skill in the NHL. Dmen aren't really allowed to clear the crease anymore. I see Rush is on a Carlson rant again. Not sure why I'd single him out. He isn't the only one. I dont think he was responsible for either of the goals against. I'm not giving him a free pass but he isnt more guilty than anyone else.
And I agree with DC. Wilson knocking out Olesiak made my night. I'm not upset about the loss.
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Maaco, I didn’t single Carlson out at all! Reread the post, please and you’ll see!
But for a guy who rags on Djoos for his smaller stature, then what is Carlson’s excuse at 6’ 3”, 215lbs??
Answer: THERE ISN’T ONE!!
Yes, none of our guys are good at crease clearing, but Carlson is the hands down, absolute best, at obstructing Holby’s view with his ASS, as he slowly “guards” the crease, actually assisting our opponents!
I certainly agree with, and respect, your very vocal appreciation, here on the boards, for the D men that play “heavy and physical”!! You say this ALL THE TIME, and again I agree with that sentiment!
HOW THEN, do you explain not only your like for Carlson’s offensive production, but also you like his DEFENSE!! I’ll never understand your logic on that!!
Rush
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: PUCKNRUSH on Friday December 21, 2018, 01:18:21 AM Eastern ---
Maaco, I didn’t single Carlson out at all! Reread the post, please and you’ll see!
But for a guy who rags on Djoos for his smaller stature, then what is Carlson’s excuse at 6’ 3”, 215lbs??
Answer: THERE ISN’T ONE!!
Yes, none of our guys are good at crease clearing, but Carlson is the hands down, absolute best, at obstructing Holby’s view with his ASS, as he slowly “guards” the crease, actually assisting our opponents!
I certainly agree with, and respect, your very vocal appreciation, here on the boards, for the D men that play “heavy and physical”!! You say this ALL THE TIME, and again I agree with that sentiment!
HOW THEN, do you explain not only your like for Carlson’s offensive production, but also you like his DEFENSE!! I’ll never understand your logic on that!!
Rush
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There is an answer and I have it to you. None of our dmen clear the crease. It is becoming quite common around the league. Because of rules changes clearing the crease has become a lost skill. That is the excuse.
Sorry Rush but that's the direction the game is going. I dont like it any better than you do. I'm not defending Carlson for his softness. For today's game his defensive play isnt bad. He plays the way most defence men play. Even the best defensive dmen in the league now are known for their ability to clear the crease.
I think you are comparing Carlson s defensive play to guys from the past but if you compare him to present dmen he is average. Maybe even above. There are a lot of poor defensive defence men in the league right now. Look at our team. Believe it or not Carlson is probably our best dman in our end this year. Its supposed to be Niskanen but he has been awful this year. Orlov has been worse. Kempny has been alright but he is very soft himself. He has been getting beat in the defensive and has been taking penalties because of it. Bowey and Siegenthaler are still young and making mistakes but they are progressing. I think Bowey is showing signs that he can be a physical dman.
The Caps aren't the only team with soft dmen. Even Hedman in Tampa isnt really a physical dman. If he was it would be down right scarey. There are very few Shea Weber type dmen left in the NHL.
You want to know my theory on Carlson. I think he is excellent offensively. And I think he is better than average defensively when compared to other dmen around the league now. He could be better. He has the size to be a dominant dman in this league.
And I think the league is getting sifter every year. The new dmen aren't big, physical, defensive dmen. They are soft puck moving dmen and guys that skate well.
Rush the game is changing quickly in front of our eyes. Ive really noticed the difference the past couple if years. Its not easy for us dinosaurs to accept.
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